Lentz, Karl

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Re: Lentz, Karl

Postby Jeffrey » Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:32 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIIfW2c09oA

The audio for the morbidly curious. And as an aside, don't post anything about Vital until I get the chance to ask for his side of the story.

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Re: Lentz, Karl

Postby Jeffrey » Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:13 pm

Karl's stepdad's case has finally been transferred to Circuit court which means we finally get a full list of charges.

6x aggravated sexual battery : victim under 13
6x indecent act w/ child by parent
1x production child porn

Sexual battery is 20 years per count, the others are 10 per.

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Re: Lentz, Karl

Postby notorial dissent » Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:48 pm

This just keeps getting better and better, in a really worse way.
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Re: Lentz, Karl

Postby Jeffrey » Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:04 am

http://www.newsleader.com/story/news/lo ... /82372646/

Frank Russo, 66, was indicted on six charges of aggravated sexual battery, six charges of taking indecent liberties with a minor and one charge of producing child porn, court records show.

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Re: Lentz, Karl

Postby LightinDarkness » Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:14 pm

I was listening to one of Karl's recent calls (can't recall which one - there are so many and I skip around). Karl was making excuses for why Frank had not been freed yet with the magic of Karl's powerful paperwork. The excuse? Because Frank had not included Karl on his list of friends and family who could visit!

Karl played this off as if it were a simple mistake, Frank simply forgot to include him. But if Frank Russo was really a believer in this sovcit stuff, how could he forget that? Perhaps Frank realizes how bad of a position he is in and Karl is mad that he won't get to "help" (and by "help" I mean destroy whatever minor chance Frank might ever have of seeing the outside of a prison).

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Re: Lentz, Karl

Postby Jeffrey » Wed Apr 13, 2016 4:34 pm

Yesterdays call, April 12th, might be the craziest call and contains things I don't think can even be typed here. It starts off strong with Karl recording a call to a hospital without notifying them that the call is being recorded, we find out about a no-contact order against Karl and his mom. Karl simultaneously argues that there is no child porn to be found on the computers and cameras that were seized, then arguing that any photos had to be downloaded and not produced by Frank then also mentioning that the drives are still being processed by police searching for pictures.

In the meantime a possible inconvenient fact is on display over on the court website. The date of the alleged offences is September 2010, at which point the alleged victim would be 7 years old. But raises questions of whether, assuming the allegations are true, the pictures are still there or were deleted or overwritten with new date and whether or not they even need them to secure a conviction.

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Re: Lentz, Karl

Postby notorial dissent » Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:17 pm

Lentz just doesn't seem to grasp the concept of STFU. He does seem to like violating court orders though, maybe he'll get some more alone time as a result. I certainly would want a no contact order if I'd had to cross his path.
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Re: Lentz, Karl

Postby Jeffrey » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:41 am

It keeps getting worse.

In the April 13th call Karl discloses that his mom is on 3 years probation because of sores found in the kids mouth. Karl argues that the kid said the sores were caused by rinsing his mouth with salt water but due to a speech impediment the school nurse thought the kid said the grandma was putting scissors in his mouth.

https://youtu.be/hg37-WSP5RI
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Re: Lentz, Karl

Postby notorial dissent » Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:26 am

Sounds like the entire family is altogether too charming, and some people a child, or anyone else for that matter, should not be in contact with.
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Re: Lentz, Karl

Postby Jeffrey » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:31 pm

Believe it or not, although the state took Karl's kids six months ago and his stepfather has been incarcerated 6 months with Karl unable to get him out of jail, and him losing a traffic case and 3 civil cases all in the first quarter of 2016, Karl's Guru activities have not slowed down. On the April 21st call he talks to 3 paying customers to whom he simply repeats his same schtick.

Meanwhile, Karl held what appears to be a seminar down in Tennessee:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itqVte5FuDc

In which he repeats his argument that the government does not have jurisdiction over cases of sexual abuse of children if they happen on private property.

Karl and Gus have been active in Tennessee but it's all been below the radar and very hush hush. They have a big client by the name of either Paul or Donald Watson, from the description he's an ex-pat from England.

I've been trying to dig up what the case is about but the courts down in TN don't put case information online and they've been very tight-lipped about what the case is about.

There's also been zero mention of their client Tracy or Stacy even though her trial was two months ago.

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Re: Lentz, Karl

Postby notorial dissent » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:54 pm

Lentz is, as near as I can determine, a conscienceless bottom feeder. The only thing he seems to be about is his ego, and more importantly, the MONEY.
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Re: Lentz, Karl

Postby Jeffrey » Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:05 am

Holy hell I should have watched the full clip before linking it.

Am I crazy or around minute 2:30 does Frank's lawyer contradict Karl's claim that there were no pictures?

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Re: Lentz, Karl

Postby LightinDarkness » Sat Apr 23, 2016 5:09 pm

Jeffrey wrote:Believe it or not, although the state took Karl's kids six months ago and his stepfather has been incarcerated 6 months with Karl unable to get him out of jail, and him losing a traffic case and 3 civil cases all in the first quarter of 2016, Karl's Guru activities have not slowed down. On the April 21st call he talks to 3 paying customers to whom he simply repeats his same schtick.


It almost seems as if the more Karl loses, the more the idiots line up to pay him more money...so they can lose their cases. It is the most bizarre thing I've ever seen. The sovcit world is the only place where you become more popular as you rack up more loses.

I wonder what Karl charges to his "clients" and I wonder how much of that is reported on his taxes (I'd guess $0).

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Re: Lentz, Karl

Postby LightinDarkness » Sat Apr 23, 2016 5:20 pm

Jeffrey wrote:Holy hell I should have watched the full clip before linking it.

Am I crazy or around minute 2:30 does Frank's lawyer contradict Karl's claim that there were no pictures?


Yup, sounds like that to me.

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Re: Lentz, Karl

Postby LightinDarkness » Sat Apr 23, 2016 5:50 pm

What always intrigues me about Karl is that he lies about everything. Not just the big stuff - his sovcit theories, his history of court losses, etc. Even the small stuff, he loves to make things up in order to sound smart.

For example, Karl loves giving off this image that he is a legal scholar/farmer. Hes a humble man you see, he just happens to be a brilliant legal scholar. As part of that delusion, Karl talks about how Thomas Jefferson's epitaph simply mentions hes a farmer. Karl is inferring that he is a great mind like Jefferson, and like Jefferson, just a simple farmer.

The problem is that Jefferson's epitaph doesn't say hes a farmer at all. In fact Jefferson was extremely specific about what was to be written on his tombstone: https://www.monticello.org/site/researc ... gravestone.

So even on these small little things, Karl just makes things up. And yet none of his followers can bother to google fact check him, and instead pay him thousands of dollars to hear his lies.

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Re: Lentz, Karl

Postby Jeffrey » Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:33 am

Here's the phonecall with the lawyer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mM9nhUpnhQ

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Re: Lentz, Karl

Postby LightinDarkness » Sun Apr 24, 2016 11:05 pm

Ah yes, Karl is enraging Frank's attorney, I am sure that will make things all the better for Frank. Nothing like having your advocate very angry with you because your nutty relatives are harassing them.

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Re: Lentz, Karl

Postby notorial dissent » Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:22 am

While I have exactly NO sympathy for someone accused of what Frank is accused of, I also don't think he needs the "help" Karl is giving him. He hasn't been convicted yet, and doesn't need things made worse for him than he has already accomplished on his own. The happiest resolution to this in my mind would be for Karl to be convicted along with him as an accessory or some such, since I think he is at the very least an enabler, and probably more. I am of the opinion that someone who sees no wrong in what Frank allegedly did is just as bad and then tries to justify it or explain it away as Karl has done is just as guilty and reprehensible.
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Re: Lentz, Karl

Postby LightinDarkness » Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:33 am

After Karl's call to the attorney he has his followers call the attorney and harass him. They add the call to the talkshoe so they can laugh about it. Its like a bunch of 15 year olds.

Also, it looks like Frank paid $15k for his attorney.

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Re: Lentz, Karl

Postby Jeffrey » Mon May 09, 2016 1:53 pm

Got us an update. Karl hasn't done any shows since 4/21st and I may have figured out the reason.

On the 29th he ran a red light and is due in court May 17th at 1:00 p.m. to fight the $175 fine.

I will note that you only see the red light ticket and no additional "driving while suspended" charge, the reason for that? Karl paid the $133 fine for driving without plates on his trailer.


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