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Angel Cruz and the TUC dummies

Postby Demosthenes » Fri May 22, 2009 1:18 am

Date Filed # Docket Text
08/06/2008 1 INDICTMENT returned in open Court as to Angel Cruz (1) on counts 1, 2-7 and Harry William Marrero (2) on counts 1, 2-7. (RDO) (Entered: 08/22/2008)
08/06/2008 2 MOTION to seal the Indictment by USA as to Angel Cruz and Harry William Marrero. (RDO) (Entered: 08/22/2008)
08/06/2008 3 ORDER granting 2 Motion to Seal Indictment as to Angel Cruz (1) and Harry William Marrero (2). Signed by Magistrate Judge David A. Baker on 8/6/08. (RDO) (Entered: 08/22/2008)
08/22/2008 Arrest of Harry William Marrero on 8/22/2008. (ECJ) (Entered: 08/22/2008)
08/22/2008 6 Minute Entry for proceedings held before Magistrate Judge Karla R. Spaulding. INITIAL appearance as to Harry William Marrero held on 8/22/2008. (DIGITAL) (ECJ) (Entered: 08/22/2008)
08/22/2008 7 ORDER APPOINTING FEDERAL PUBLIC DEFENDER as to Harry William Marrero. George Allen Couture for Harry William Marrero appointed. Signed by Magistrate Judge Karla R. Spaulding on 8/22/2008. (ECJ) (Entered: 08/22/2008)
08/22/2008 8 ORDER OF TEMPORARY DETENTION as to Harry William Marrero. Arraignment/Detention Hearing set for 9/2/2008 at 10:30 AM in Courtroom 5 D before Magistrate Judge Karla R. Spaulding. Signed by Magistrate Judge Karla R. Spaulding on 8/22/2008. (ECJ) (Entered: 08/22/2008)
08/25/2008 9 ARREST WARRANT returned executed on 8/22/08 as to Harry William Marrero. (RDO) (Entered: 08/25/2008)
08/25/2008 10 NOTICE of attorney appearance Carlos A. Perez-Irizarry appearing for USA. (Perez-Irizarry, Carlos) (Entered: 08/25/2008)
08/25/2008 11 NOTICE of possible conflict of interest by USA as to Angel Cruz, Harry William Marrero (Perez-Irizarry, Carlos) (Entered: 08/25/2008)
08/25/2008 12 NOTICE of pendency of related cases re order of compliance to Local Rule as to Angel Cruz, Harry William Marrero by USA. Related case(s): yes (Perez-Irizarry, Carlos) (Entered: 08/25/2008)
08/25/2008 13 CERTIFICATE of interested persons and corporate disclosure statement by USA (Perez-Irizarry, Carlos) (Entered: 08/25/2008)
08/25/2008 14 NOTICE of estimated length of trial by USA Estimated trial length: three days. (Perez-Irizarry, Carlos) (Entered: 08/25/2008)
08/26/2008 15 NOTICE of attorney appearance: Stephen J. Langs appearing for Harry William Marrero and Substitution of Counsel (Langs, Stephen) (Entered: 08/26/2008)
08/27/2008 Case as to Angel Cruz and Harry William Marrero Reassigned to Unassigned Judge ORL due to Judge Fawsett taking Senior Status. New case number: 6:08-cr-177-Orl-98DAB. Senior Judge Patricia C. Fawsett no longer assigned to the case. (MAA) (Entered: 08/27/2008)
08/27/2008 16 WAIVER of Detention Hearing as to Harry William Marrero. (Langs, Stephen) (Entered: 08/27/2008)
08/28/2008 17 NOTICE canceling Arraignment/Detention Hearing hearing scheduled for 9/2/2008 at 10:30 a.m. as to Harry William Marrero. Arraignment to be rescheduled by separate notice before Magistrate Judge David A. Baker. (ECJ) (Entered: 08/28/2008)
08/28/2008 18 ORDER OF DETENTION as to Harry William Marrero. Signed by Magistrate Judge Karla R. Spaulding on 8/28/2008. (ECJ) (Entered: 08/28/2008)
09/04/2008 19 NOTICE OF HEARING as to Harry William Marrero. Arraignment set for 9/11/2008 at 10:00 AM in Courtroom 6 D before Magistrate Judge David A. Baker. (HSL) (Entered: 09/04/2008)
09/11/2008 20 Minute Entry for proceedings held before Magistrate Judge David A. Baker: ARRAIGNMENT as to Harry William Marrero (2) Count 1,2-7 held on 9/11/2008. Defendant(s) pled not guilty.. (digital) (HSL) (Entered: 09/11/2008)
09/11/2008 21 SCHEDULING ORDER as to Harry William Marrero: Jury Trial set for 10/1/2008 at 08:30 AM before Unassigned Judge ORL Signed by Magistrate Judge David A. Baker on 9/11/2008. (HSL) (Entered: 09/11/2008)
09/16/2008 22 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE by Angel Cruz. (Docs. listed on Certificate filed separately in brown folder) (RDO) (Entered: 09/16/2008)
09/16/2008 23 MOTION to dismiss by Angel Cruz. (RDO) (Entered: 09/17/2008)
09/16/2008 24 MOTION to transfer case by Angel Cruz. (RDO) (Entered: 09/17/2008)
09/16/2008 25 MOTION for Constitutional Counsel by Angel Cruz. (RDO) Motions referred to Magistrate Judge David A. Baker. (Entered: 09/17/2008)
09/16/2008 26 NOTICE of Collateral Estoppel by Angel Cruz (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit 3, # 2 Exhibit 4, # 3 Exhibit 5, # 4 Exhibit 6, # 5 Exhibit 7, # 6 Exhibit 8, # 7 Exhibit 9, # 8 Exhibit 10)(RDO) (Entered: 09/17/2008)
09/16/2008 27 NOTICE of Special Appearance/Challenge to Jurisdiction by Angel Cruz (RDO) (Entered: 09/17/2008)
09/16/2008 28 JUDICIAL NOTICE and Claim of Rights by Angel Cruz (RDO) (Entered: 09/17/2008)
09/16/2008 29 NOTICE of Conflict of Interest/Denial of Jurisdiction & Offer to Contract Due to Mass Fraud by Angel Cruz (RDO) (Entered: 09/17/2008)
09/16/2008 30 ADMINISTRATIVE NOTICE and Demand for Identification and Credentials Quo Warranto by Angel Cruz (RDO) (Entered: 09/17/2008)
09/16/2008 31 NOTICE of Acceptance by Angel Cruz (RDO) (Entered: 09/17/2008)
09/16/2008 32 NOTICE of Lodgement by Angel Cruz (RDO) (Entered: 09/17/2008)
09/17/2008 33 PLEA AGREEMENT re: count(s) One through Seven of the Indictment as to Harry William Marrero. (Perez-Irizarry, Carlos) (Entered: 09/17/2008)
09/18/2008 34 MOTION for release from custody by Harry William Marrero. (Langs, Stephen) (Entered: 09/18/2008)
09/18/2008 35 NOTICE OF HEARING as to Harry William Marrero. Change of Plea Hearing set for 9/25/2008 at 11:00 AM in Courtroom 6 D before Magistrate Judge David A. Baker., Detention Hearing set for 9/25/2008 at 11:00 AM in Courtroom 6 D before Magistrate Judge David A. Baker. (HSL) (Entered: 09/18/2008)
09/25/2008 36 Minute Entry for proceedings held before Magistrate Judge David A. Baker: Detention Hearing as to Harry William Marrero held on 9/25/2008, CHANGE of plea hearing as to Harry William Marrero held on 9/25/2008. (digital) (HSL) (Entered: 09/26/2008)
09/25/2008 37 CONSENT regarding entry of a plea of guilty as to Harry William Marrero (HSL) (Entered: 09/26/2008)
09/25/2008 38 CONSENT to institute presentence investigation report as to Harry William Marrero (HSL) (Entered: 09/26/2008)
09/26/2008 39 REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION concerning plea of guilty re: count(s) 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 of the Indictment as to Harry William Marrero. Signed by Magistrate Judge David A. Baker on 9/25/2008. (HSL) (Entered: 09/26/2008)
09/26/2008 40 ORDER OF DETENTION pending sentencing as to Harry William Marrero. Signed by Magistrate Judge David A. Baker on 9/26/2008. (HSL) (Entered: 09/26/2008)
10/02/2008 41 MOTION to strike by USA as to Angel Cruz. (Perez-Irizarry, Carlos) (Entered: 10/02/2008)
10/03/2008 Case as to Angel Cruz, Harry William Marrero Reassigned to Judge Mary S. Scriven. New case number: 6:08-cr-177-Orl-35DAB. Unassigned Judge ORL no longer assigned to the case. (MAA) (Entered: 10/03/2008)
10/03/2008 42 ORDER denying 41 Motion to Strike as to Angel Cruz (1); denying without prejudice 23 Motion to dismiss as to Angel Cruz (1); denying without prejudice 24 Motion to transfer case as to Angel Cruz (1); denying without prejudice 25 Motion to appoint counsel as to Angel Cruz (1). Signed by Magistrate Judge David A. Baker on 10/3/2008. (HSL) (Entered: 10/03/2008)
10/03/2008 43 ORDER ADOPTING REPORT AND RECOMMENDATIONS and Accepting the plea of guilty to Counts 1,2,3,4,5,6 and 7 of the Indictment as to Harry William Marrero. Signed by Judge Mary S. Scriven on 10/3/2008. (NBL) (Entered: 10/03/2008)
10/03/2008 44 NOTICE OF SENTENCING HEARING as to Harry William Marrero. Sentencing set for Thursday, 12/18/2008 at 09:30AM in Courtroom 5 B on the 5th floor before Judge Mary S. Scriven, U.S. District Court, 401 West Central Blvd.,Orlando, Florida. Defendant's presence is required. (NBL) (Entered: 10/03/2008)
10/09/2008 45 TRANSCRIPT of Hearing on Change of Plea and Detention as to Harry William Marrero held on 9/25/08 before Judge David A. Baker. Court Reporter Tony Rolland, Telephone number 407.760.6023. Transcript may be viewed at the court public terminal or purchased through the Court Reporter before the deadline for Release of Transcript Restriction. After that date it may be obtained through PACER or purchased through the Court Reporter. Redaction Request due 10/30/2008, Redacted Transcript Deadline set for 11/10/2008, Release of Transcript Restriction set for 1/7/2009. (TR) (Entered: 10/09/2008)
10/09/2008 46 NOTICE to counsel of filing of OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT. The parties have seven (7) calendar days to file with the court a Notice of Intent to Request Redaction of this transcript. If no such Notice is filed, the transcript may be made remotely electronically available to the public without redaction after 90 calendar days. Any party needing a copy of the transcript to review for redaction purposes may purchase a copy from the court reporter or view the document at the clerk's office public terminal as to Harry William Marrero. Court Reporter: Tony Rolland (TR) (Entered: 10/09/2008)
10/13/2008 47 Second MOTION for release from custody (pending sentencing hearing) by Harry William Marrero. (Langs, Stephen) (Entered: 10/13/2008)
10/17/2008 48 ORDER denying 47 Motion for Release from Custody as to Harry William Marrero (2). Signed by Judge Mary S. Scriven on 10/16/2008.(HMJ) (Entered: 10/17/2008)
11/25/2008 49 AMENDED NOTICE OF SENTENCING HEARING as to Harry William Marrero. Sentencing re-set for Thursday, 12/18/2008 at 11:00AM in Courtroom 5 B on the 5th floor before Judge Mary S. Scriven, U.S. District Court, 401 West Central Blvd., Orlando, Florida. Defendant's presence is required. *(Amended at to time only) (NBL) (Entered: 11/25/2008)
12/03/2008 50 MOTION for downward departure by Harry William Marrero. (Langs, Stephen) (Entered: 12/03/2008)
12/05/2008 51 Unopposed MOTION to continue sentencing hearing by Harry William Marrero. (Langs, Stephen) (Entered: 12/05/2008)
12/08/2008 52 ENDORSED ORDER granting 51 Unopposed Joint Motion to Continue Sentencing Hearing as to Harry William Marrero. Hearing to be rescheduled by separate notice. Signed by Judge Mary S. Scriven on 12/8/2008. (NBL) (Entered: 12/08/2008)
12/08/2008 53 SECOND AMENDED NOTICE OF SENTENCING HEARING as to Harry William Marrero. Sentencing re-set for Wednesday, January 7th, 2009 at 11:00AM in Courtroom 5 B on the 5th floor before Judge Mary S. Scriven, U.S. District Court, 401 West Central Blvd., Orlando, Florida. Defendant's presence is required.(NBL) (Entered: 12/08/2008)
12/23/2008 54 SENTENCING MEMORANDUM by Harry William Marrero (Langs, Stephen) (Entered: 12/23/2008)
12/31/2008 55 MOTION for downward departure by USA as to Harry William Marrero. (Perez-Irizarry, Carlos) (Entered: 12/31/2008)
01/07/2009 56 Minute Entry (SENTENCING HEARING - Day 1) Proceedings held before Judge Mary S. Scriven on 1/7/2009 as to Harry William Marrero. Defense attorney Stephen Langs makes an Oral motion to continue the sentencing hearing for 30 days. Government does not object. Court GRANTS the defense motion to continue. Sentencing to be rescheduled for Thursday, February 12, 2009 at 10:30 am. Attorneys present: Carlos Perez-Irizarry, AUSA, Stephen J. Langs, FPD. Time: 11:05 am to 11:13 am. Court Reporter: Koretta Stanford (NBL) (Entered: 01/07/2009)
01/07/2009 57 NOTICE RESCHEDULING SENTENCING HEARING as to Harry William Marrero. Sentencing re-set for Thursday, 2/12/2009 at 10:30AM in Courtroom 5 B on the 5th floor before Judge Mary S. Scriven, U.S. District Court, 401 West Central Blvd., Orlando, Florida. Defendant's presence is required. (NBL) (Entered: 01/07/2009)
01/30/2009 58 Unopposed MOTION for miscellaneous relief, specifically Court Ordered Psychiatric Evaluation per 18 USC section 3552 to Supplement/Complement Presentence Investigation & Report by Harry William Marrero. (Langs, Stephen) Modified on 2/2/2009 (LAK). (Entered: 01/30/2009)
02/09/2009 59 SUPPLEMENT re 58 Unopposed MOTION for miscellaneous relief, specifically Court Ordered Psychiatric Evaluation per 18 USC section 3552 Mr Marrero's Unopposed Motion for Court Ordered Psychiatric Evaluation under 18 USC s. 3552(b) and (c) to Supplement/Complement (Langs, Stephen) (Entered: 02/09/2009)
02/09/2009 60 ORDER GRANTING 58 Defendant Harry William Marrero's Motion for Court Ordered Psychiatric Evaluation. Signed by Judge Mary S. Scriven on 2/9/2009. (TLC) (Entered: 02/09/2009)
03/12/2009 61 STATUS REPORT by Harry William Marrero (Langs, Stephen) (Entered: 03/12/2009)
03/23/2009 62 STATUS REPORT Regarding Defendant's Designation by USA as to Harry William Marrero (Perez-Irizarry, Carlos) (Entered: 03/23/2009)
03/27/2009 63 Unopposed MOTION for miscellaneous relief, specifically to expand scope of psychiatric order at Doc 60 and to extend deadline by which to conduct study re 59 Supplement, 58 Unopposed MOTION for miscellaneous relief, specifically Court Ordered Psychiatric Evaluation per 18 USC section 3552 filed by Harry William Marrero. (Langs, Stephen) Text modified on 3/30/2009 (RDO). (Entered: 03/27/2009)
04/03/2009 64 ORDER GRANTING 63 Motion to Expand Scope of Court Ordered Psychiatric Evaluation as to Harry William Marrero and to Extend Deadline by Which to Conduct Study. The study report shall be filed with the Court no later than June 15, 2009. A competency hearing will be held before this Court on June 22, 2009, at 2:00 p.m. Signed by Judge Mary S. Scriven on 4/3/2009. (TLC) (Entered: 04/03/2009)
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Re: Angel Cruz and the TUC dummies

Postby Nikki » Fri May 22, 2009 2:28 am

It seems that our earlier opinion that they are all a major bunch of bananas wasn't too far off the mark.

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Re: Angel Cruz and the TUC dummies

Postby Judge Roy Bean » Fri May 22, 2009 3:18 am

Good Lord. Is there any hope that there will be some kind of a review of this utter waste of judicial and DOJ resources?

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Re: Angel Cruz and the TUC dummies

Postby Judge Roy Bean » Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:03 pm

Curiosity...from late last year:

http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewiStockNews/articleid/2825853

And none other than Joe Hass' demonstrates even less understanding of the TUC situation in his comment on the article four months later:

Good luck to Angel Cruz in battle #__ of this war. by Joseph S. Haas
So where can I "buy" one of these "United States Private Dollar"s? to add to my currency collection that includes some POMC's from the good old days back in the 1980s of when F. Tupper Saussy, R.I.P. published his "The Main Street Journal" from Swanee, Tenn.essee for us "sovereign citizens?" Him also the author of "Miracle on Main Street". Public Office Money Certificates they were, and one fellow named Verhoff of Texas having used same in a State Auction of surplus vehicles getting the State Police helicopter fly-over when "they" discovered what they were days later. And what was the sentence handed down from on high against co-hort Bill Marrero? Has Angel Cruz appeared on "America's Most Wanted" yet? Why did he try to force The Bank of America into his like, Circle of Friends. As a Coin Collector I know that there are hundreds of Chamber of Commerce tokens "Good For" and until a certain day, and then they become souvenirs, as like a donation to the community. Add to the list the Concord, New Hampshire "Downtown Dollars" of paper money that can be "bought" at the Merrimack County Savings Bank. What he was doing was perfectly legal, as they say, like in a Company Town, but when he ventured beyond the borders, then that's where and when it became illegal. Beyond the 600-member Circle of Friends who put in the $500,000. Whatever happened to that money? If/when caught this Cruz, who can sell you the Brooklyn Bridge, ought to take his orator skills and really do a number on the "system". Like to say like Steve Martin used to say: Well, excuse me, and if not excused then to spend the time in the Federal "Correctional" Facility but while there continue to try to redeem that $1/2 million for his clients by lawful means: require that the Bank of where they were deposited, or going to be, pay off in real dollars as defined by the law, not merely for "commerce" coins as by the Coinage Act of 1965* but by The Coinage Act of 1792*. The latter in date** of which is supposed to run con-current with the former* as stated by LBJ in his speech to Congress, that ought to audit the U.S. Mint, because by Section 16 of the Federal Reserve Act, there has to be by the contract so much gold bullion deposited from that specific Federal Reserve Bank (#__ of 12 of them in the "System"), BEFORE the notes can be monetized! Re: the serial numbers recorded with the Feds before that bank sends them out to their member banks in that Region A to L. And at the time of trial to see to it that the accounts there in that court are kept in the Section 20 manner as prescribed by the 1792 Act, and if not, then to hold off any prosecution in the offensive until the defensive answers to the claim of: Show me the Money, and then PAYs whatever to whoever is owed, such as me still awaiting "pay"ment on a Treasurer's check from the U.S. Marshal here in N.H. that the local bank refused to "cash". And so I find it hypocracy when the Bank of America cries foul, but then is in the foul too for non Title 12 U.S. Code Section 411 redemption! Two wrongs do not make a right. The Rule of Law must prevail!. Youts truly, JSH
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Re: Angel Cruz and the TUC dummies

Postby Demosthenes » Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:01 am

06/19/2009 65 NOTICE by Harry William Marrero (Langs, Stephen) (Entered: 06/19/2009)

06/19/2009 66 NOTICE canceling Competency Hearing scheduled for June 22, 2009 at 2:00 p.m. as to Harry William Marrero. (NBL) (Copies mailed) (Entered: 06/19/2009)

06/19/2009 67 RESPONSE 65 Notice (other) by USA as to Harry William Marrero (Perez-Irizarry, Carlos) (Entered: 06/19/2009)

06/30/2009 68 AMENDED NOTICE OF SENTENCING HEARING as to Harry William Marrero. Sentencing scheduled for Wednesday, 8/5/2009 at 10:30AM in Orlando Courtroom 5 B on the 5th floor before Judge Mary S. Scriven, U.S. District Court, 401 West Central Blvd., Orlando, Florida. Defendant's presence is required. All Objections to the Pre-Sentence Report or Motions pertaining thereto shall be in writing and filed no later than three (3) days prior to the sentencing hearing. Counsel is to notify the Courtroom Deputy Clerk as soon as possible if they believe the sentencing will be longer than 30 minutes. (Copies e-mailed/mailed) (NBL) (Entered: 06/30/2009)

07/08/2009 69 SECOND AMENDED NOTICE OF SENTENCING HEARING as to Harry William Marrero. Sentencing is reset for Thursday, 8/13/2009 at 10:30AM in Orlando Courtroom 5 B on the 5th floor before Judge Mary S. Scriven, U.S. District Court, 401 West Central Blvd., Orlando, Florida. Defendant's presence is required. All Objections to the Pre-Sentence Report or Motions pertaining thereto shall be in writing and filed no later than three (3) days prior to the sentencing hearing. Counsel is to notify the Courtroom Deputy Clerk as soon as possible if they believe the sentencing will be longer than 30 minutes. (Previously noticed for 8/5/09) (copies e-mailed/mailed) (NBL) (Entered: 07/08/2009)
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Re: Angel Cruz and the TUC dummies

Postby wserra » Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:21 pm

The final report on the civil case (SDFL) which Bank of America brought against the same dummies: after trying to appear by non-lawyers, they defaulted. The District Judge adopted the M-J's Report & Recommendation (which contains the whole dumb story, if anyone is interested) and entered a default judgment with a permanent injunction and $30K in sanctions.

Shouldn't be hard for B of A to collect, right? After all, TUC has billions.
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Re: Angel Cruz and the TUC dummies

Postby notorial dissent » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:23 am

The thing that I still do not understand is under what possible scenario did the TUC idiots think they would/could possibly get away with what they were doing?

The whole fraudulent bank scheme theme is older than dirt, but to actually try and physically foreclose on a bank, in broad daylight??? That goes beyond hutzpa, and well off into never never land. They can’t really have thought that BofA was just going to roll over and give in to them?

Of all the ones I have seen so far, this one does take the points for sheer gall.
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Postby Doktor Avalanche » Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:03 pm

wserra wrote:Shouldn't be hard for B of A to collect, right? After all, TUC has billions.


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Re: Angel Cruz and the TUC dummies

Postby Demosthenes » Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:50 pm

Harry Marrero's sentence:

IMPRISONMENT: 97 months. This term consists of terms of 60 months on Count 1 and terms of 97 months on each of Counts 2,3,4,5,6,7, all such terms to run concurrent; SUPERVISED RELEASE: 5 years. This term shall consist of terms of 3 years on Count 1 and terms of 5 years on each of Counts 2,3,4,5,6,7, all such terms to run concurrent; Mandatory drug testing requirements are Waived; Special conditions of Supervised Release: defendant shall submit to a search of his person, etc., defendant is prohibited from incurring new credit charges, opening additional lines of credit, etc., over $100.00 without approval of the probation officer, defendant shall perform 100 hours of community service; Special Assessment: $700.00 due immediately
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Re: Angel Cruz and the TUC dummies

Postby Famspear » Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:23 am

Angel Cruz is still a fugitive. The government believes he is hiding in Cuba.
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Re: Angel Cruz and the TUC dummies

Postby The Observer » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:04 am

Famspear wrote:Angel Cruz is still a fugitive. The government believes he is hiding in Cuba.


Since when did Cuba become a sovrun/freeman paradise?
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Re: Angel Cruz and the TUC dummies

Postby LaVidaRoja » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:55 am

If you have enough money.....
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Re: Angel Cruz and the TUC dummies

Postby Pottapaug1938 » Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:04 am

The Observer wrote:
Famspear wrote:Angel Cruz is still a fugitive. The government believes he is hiding in Cuba.


Since when did Cuba become a sovrun/freeman paradise?


If you have enough money, Cuba has long been willing to overlook your transgressions. Remeber the financier Robert Vesco? He was not exactly a socialist or Communist; but Fidel was happy to take him in.
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Re: Angel Cruz and the TUC dummies

Postby The Observer » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:29 am

Pottapaug1938 wrote:If you have enough money, Cuba has long been willing to overlook your transgressions. Remeber the financier Robert Vesco? He was not exactly a socialist or Communist; but Fidel was happy to take him in.


My question was not about why Cuba allowed Angel Cruz in; I am very well aware that Cuba has always turned a blind eye to the background of their "guests" when it was receiving money under the table from same. My question had to do with the hypocrisy of Cruz fleeing to a country that is not known for allowing the kind of freedom that they demand here in the US. You know, those little things, like obeying government laws, paying taxes, paying tickets/fines, making their mortgage payments, etc. We won't even mention the other things like being sent to prison for daring to question the legitimacy of the government, tortured for demanding the right to free speech and voting for the candidate of your choice - the little things that they tend to forget they have here.
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Re: Angel Cruz and the TUC dummies

Postby Famspear » Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:00 pm

For what it’s worth, here is the bulk of the text of the latest status report, from December 2016:

The United States of America, by and through the undersigned Assistant United States Attorney, hereby files this Status Report [ . . .]:

1. On August 6, 2008, Angel Cruz was Indicted for Bank Fraud and Conspiracy. A warrant was obtained for Cruz’s arrest based upon said indictment. At that time, Cruz was believed to be living in the Miami area. Numerous attempts to locate Cruz in the Miami and Orlando area have been fruitless. It is believed that Cruz has fled to Cuba.

2. In fall of 2016, The United States Secret Service (USSS) conducted an internet and law enforcement databases checks in an attempt to locate Cruz with negative results. Also, a check for border crossings was conducted with negative results.

3. It is believed that Cruz has fled to his birth country of Cuba to avoid prosecution in the United States. While the United States and Cuba have an existing extradition treaty, this treaty has been in abeyance for decades. Nonetheless, because the evidence and witnesses are still available to prosecute this matter in the event Cruz is apprehended, the United States requests that the matter remain open.

Respectfully submitted,

A. LEE BENTLEY, III
United States Attorney [ . . . ]


--from Status Report [by United States of America], Dec. 19, 2016, docket entry 96, United States v. Angel Cruz, case no. 08-cr-00177, U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Florida (Orlando Div.).

So, Cruz may be a citizen of Cuba.
...why is anyone in this [losthorizons] community paying the least attention to...'Larry Williams' [Famspear], or other purveyors of disinformation from...quatloos? – Pete Hendrickson, former inmate 15406-039, Fed’l Bureau of Prisons


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