Now this directly contradicts the Menardian fairy tale of him locking himself up in his study with Black's Law Dictionary and Canadian statutes to derive his theories.
Now I think the only judge Christy could have been referring to was Judge Dale who in this 126 page manifesto goes over all the keypoints of Freeman/Sovereign ideology and the roots of Menard's Canadian mutation. i.e. Statutes aren't law, consent is what gives courts jurisdiction, birth certificate conspiracy theories etc.
So my question is how far back does Judge Dale go and is he the definitive link explaining how SovCit migrated into Canada. All the references to him call him a "retired judge" but I haven't seen any actual confirmation of that nor is there any indication of what his real name is.
A simple search suggests that so-called Judge Dale first appeared on the scene in 2012, a newbie-guru as it were, as a Guest Writer on ShiftFreqency. The editor, Gillian, claims his name is a pseudonym.
It appears that "Judge Dale" may be Dale Allen Keenhold based on some research by one of the Fogbow regulars.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.
"JUdge Dale" was first channeled by John McHaffie, who identified him only as a retired judge and refused to identify him further. McHaffie or one of his ilk did post some dreadful essays supposedly by the "Judge Dale", which would not have passed muster in the second year of law school.
A few years ago (before, I think, the appearance in Shift Frequency), I said this about "Judge Dale" on the SuiJuris forum:
No, it's not Dale B. Lindman, formerly (until July 2012) judge on the Ramsey County District Court in Minnesota. Judge Lindman was a skilled judge, with an excellent legal education, very knowledgable of the law, and seldom overturned on appeal. And his decisions show a distinct difference from the Sovcit type attitude of McHaffie's suppositious judge.
The "Judge Dale" being channeled by McHaffie doesn't know the law, can't cite legal authorities properly, etc. Many indicia that McHaffie's "Judge Dale" has no legal education whatever.
There was a real enough judge, Dale Keenhold, in Stroudsberg, Penn., but he retired in 1988 and apparently is no longer with us. A "Dale Allen Keenhold" - who is assuredly no judge nor even a lawyer - got involved with his sister-in-law's bankruptcy case back in 2008 -- In re Sandra Marcia Keenhold (Bankr., ED Va 1/29/08) -- https://casetext.com/case/in-re-keenhold
-- which it turns out was totally poisonous as he (I assume I can blame him for it) tried to couch the very ordinary bankruptcy attempt as an admiralty case, filed some SovCit gibberish, and generally got the petition tossed (it had previously gotten tossed when his brother, Sandra's husband, had tried to file for bankruptcy the previous year).
"Judge DALE" is a hoax. The online character that we know of as "Judge DALE" is actually "Rodney DALE Class" (also known as "Rod Class) and a small group of followers who share his belief system about the law and the legal system. "Rodney DALE Class' himself is an amateur litigant and amateur legal theorist with barely a high school education who was never a judge. Despite never going to college or to law school and despite never becoming a lawyer or a judge, Rodney DALE Class has developed/compiled an entire belief system about the law and the legal system that he teaches to hundreds of devoted followers.
A small group of Rodney DALE Class' followers were so impressed with his belief system that they decided to fraudulently market it to the American people through a series of fraudulent documents that they fraudulently told the American people were written by a "retired federal judge" named "Judge DALE" (using Rodney DALE Class's middle name, "DALE", as an inside joke). Among the forged (fake) documents that these people fraudulently told the American people were written by a "retired federal judge" name "Judge DALE" include forgeries entitled: "Lawfully Yours"; "The Matrix And The US Constitution" and "The Great American Adventure: Secrets Of America".
No surprisingly, the main people behind the Judge DALE Hoax peddle these forged (fake) documents from their own personal websites, so as to drive internet there, so as to gain them notoriety and stature among their newly-duped victims. The main people behind the Judge DALE Hoax actually copyright and license out these original forgeries (listed above) for others to quote and to re-print in exchange for online credit as the source of the forgeries and in exchange for an internet link connecting the reader to their own personal websites from which the entire collection of original "Judge DALE" forgeries are peddled. Thus, the main people behind the Judge DALE Hoax demand legal ownership of the hoax and demand credit as the source of the forgeries themselves.
The Secondary Forgeries: Since publishing the original forgeries (listed above), the main people behind the Judge DALE Hoax have posted newer, shorter, forged (fake) articles on affiliated websites which articles they also fraudulently told the American people were written by a "retired federal judge" named "Judge DALE" (again, using Rodney DALE Class's middle name, "DALE", as an inside joke). An example of one of these newer, shorter, forged (fake) articles include an article entitled, "A Major Change is Coming October 1st", as seen on beforeitisnews.com, bulliondirect.com, and lightworker29501.tumbir.com. Another example includes, "Currency RV/GCR (Global Currency Reset)", as seen on beforeitsnews.com and godlikeproductions.com. A final example includes of these newer, shorter, forged (fake) articles includes a fake article entitled, Global Currency Reset And NDA Contract", as seen on shiftfrequency.com, goingglobaleastmeetswest.blogspot.com and lunaticuotpost.com among other affiliated websites.
Secondary Forgeries Continued: Further, the very same people who engaged in the forgoing deceptive conduct also posted re-prints of selected sections of their original forgeries on affiliated websites under new names (to make them look like new articles). Again these people fraudulently told the American people that these re-prints had been written by a "retired federal judge" named "Judge DALE" (again, using Rodney DALE Class' middle name, "DALE", as an inside joke). One example of these re-prints includes: "How To Defeat Admiralty Courts", as seen on shiftfrequency.com, threepercenter.org and getoutofdebtfree.org. Another example of one of these re-prints includes: "Legal Advice From A Retired Federal Judge Turned Whistle Blower", as seen on nesaranews.blogspot.com, removingtheshackles.com and goldismoney2.com. Still another example of one of these re-prints includes: "Recap Of Legal Fraud", as seen on galacticconnection.com, rustycrawford.com and shatteringthematrix.com. An additional example of one of these re-prints is: " The Sovereign Citizen", as seen on removingtheshackles.com, scannedretina.com and shiftfrequency.com. Also consider this example of a re-print: "Judge DALE On The UCC Filings And Other Info", as seen on removingtheshackles.com, oom2com and abundanthope.com. A final example of these re-prints includes: "Retired Judge Spills The Beans", as seen on scannedretina.com oom2com and nesaranews.blogspot.com among others.
Fraud And Deception In Addition To Merely Posting Forged (Fake) Articles Online:
In order to create the illusion that "Judge DALE" is real, some of the people involved in the Judge DALE Hoax often pretend to "know" this non-existent, fictional (fake) character named, "Judge DALE" "personally". On example includes: "I know Judge DALE personally and know when he says something, it is a fact!... ." as posted by "Anonymous" on 9-8-12 at 4:43 PM, and as seen on creoharmony.com. Some people involved with the Judge DALE Hoax actually pretend to communicate with "Judge DALE". One example of such a fraud includes: "Hi Craig, Judge DALE has provided all he wishes to provide about this topic at this time. Thanks for your interest in his work. G [Gillian]", as seen on shiftfrequency.com. Another example of this fraud includes: "I asked Judge DALE to please take a moment and to review the UCC filings we have been posting from People's trust and to give us his... .", as seen on americankabuki.blogspot.com and abundanthope.com. In one instance, this non-existent, fictional (fake) character named "Judge DALE" actually pretended to respond to answer that very question as in this example: "Dear Dee, This is basically an administrative process to establish a foreign judgment... .", as seen on removingtheshackles.com; americankabuki.blogspot.com and nesaranews.blogspot.com. Needless to say, the people behind the Judge DALE Hoax are on both sides of the pretended conversation.
It is admittedly true that the writings of "Judge DALE" appear to have been written by a person (or persons) who is (or who are) more literate, intelligent, educated, knowledgeable and articulate than "Rodney DALE Class" appears to be. But, there is an explanation for this apparent discrepancy in writing styles. Because of Rodney DALE Class' admitted educational and grammatical shortcomings, the main people behind the Judge DALE Hoax are forced to actually re-write (from scratch) all of the writings that they will fraudulently attribute to "Judge DALE" online (to make them look as if they might have actually been written by a "retired federal judge"). In this regard, the main people behind the Judge DALE Hoax jokingly refer to themselves (on their own websites and elsewhere) as "Judge DALE's Editors". "Editors," indeed. (These people really have their work cut out for them). In this sense, the writings that are fraudulently attributed to the non-existent, fictional (fake) character named "Judge DALE" online have more than one author (not just Rodney DALE Class, alone). For this reason, more than one person involved in the Judge DALE Hoax are fraudulently impersonating a federal officer, namely a retired federal judge. Finally, while "Judge DALE's Editors" have better writing skills than Rodney DALE Class has, they know even less about the law and the legal system than Rodney DALE Class knows (and that is saying a lot).
The moniker, "Judge DALE", a "retired federal judge", is NOT merely an innocent "pen name".
The "Judge DALE Hoax" goes much further than using a fake name of a fake author of fake (forged) documents. Thus, the "Judge DALE Hoax" is NOT the moral equivalent of Samuel Clements writing as "Mark Twain" when publishing "Huckleberry Finn". First, Samuel Clements and Mark Twain appeared to be of equal stature in the eyes of the reader. But here, "Rodney DALE Class" (an amateur legal theorist with barely a high school education) and "Judge DALE" (an alleged "retired federal judge") do not appear to be of equal stature in the eyes of the reader. Second, Huckleberry Finn was marketed as a work of fiction. But here, the forged (fake) documents that are fraudulently attributed a "retired federal judge" named, "Judge DALE" are marketed as true "source documents" about the law and the legal system.
Here, the people behind the "Judge DALE Hoax" (correctly) realized that the American people would never buy into their belief system about the law and the legal system if the American people knew the truth about it (that it was merely the product of an amateur legal theorist with a high school education, as re-written by his "editors"). So, the people behind the "Judge DALE Hoax" decided to lie to the American people about the real credentials of the author of the forged (fake) documents that reflected their belief system. These people wanted to dupe the American people into believing that the subject forged (fake) documents (reflecting their belief system) was the product of a man who was a real expert in the law and the legal system who has once help a position in the highest echelon of the judicial branch of the federal government of the United States. That goes much further than using a fake name alone.
By fraudulently representing to the American people that the author of the subject forged (fake) documents (reflecting their belief system) was a "retired federal judge", the people behind the Judge DALE Hoax were thereby fraudulently representing to the American people that the author was man: who applied for and who was admitted into a four year college or university; who graduated with a four year college or university degree; who took and who scored sufficiently high enough on the law school admissions test; who applied for and who was admitted into a three or four year accredited law school; who has a three or four year legal education and a law school degree (called a "Juris Doctorate"), who took and passed the state bar exam, who passed the state bar character and fitness exam (background check); who practiced law for years if not decades, who won the respect and admiration of his peers in the legal profession and in the halls of the government of the United States, who was nominated to the federal bench by the President of the United States, who was confirmed to the federal bench by the Senate of the United States and who, in this case, sat on the federal bench for exactly twelve years before "discovering" the "fraud" and "corruption" of the legal system. Thus, the reason that the people behind the Judge DALE Hoax created all of the forgoing fictional credentials for the alleged author of the subject forged (fake) documents reflecting their belief system was because the real author, Rodney DALE Class, has NONE of those credentials. Thus, the Judge DALE Hoax goes considerably further than using a fake name of a fake author of fake (forged) documents.
The sole purpose of the name "Judge DALE" a "retired federal judge" was to dupe the American people into believing something they would not otherwise even read, much less believe.
I am not inclined to believe that Judge Dale is Rodney Class; I am more inclined to attribute Dale to the late John MacHaffie.
Either way (or with anyone else identifiable as Judge Dale), "Judge Dale" clearly does not have legal training.
And pretending that he is a judge turns amateurism into fackery and hoaxing.
But I suspect that not many people have actually been fooled by Judge Dale, probably fewer than a hundred, perhaps even fewer than fifty.
Snoopy, you got yourself barbecued over at Fogbow for posting this nonsense you picked up elsewhere, and it still doesn't pass the stink test.
to quote myself with permission from my original Fogbow post wrote:The biggest problem I have with this is that the “Judge” doesn’t sound like raucous Rodney in his writing. Rod is barely literate, and can’t string two consecutive thoughts together, let alone coherently either singly or together, so I have a problem there as well, reading Rod's crap makes me nauseous, Dale's bilge is just boring, and wrong. The other big issue is that Rod is far to fond of the sound of his own voice to use a pseudonym, my third problem.
The main thing is that Rod is far too fond of the sound of his own voice and too greedy to either let someone else plagiarize him, or to let someone get away with his "work" without screaming bloody murder. The thought of someone getting a dollar that should have been his would send him into apoplectic fits and jibberish filing mode. So, to put not too fine a point on it, your codswallop doesn't pass the BS stench test. Buh bye.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.
All of the foregoing would be bad enough, but two of the main people behind the "Judge DALE Hoax" go even further and (with a straight face) actually appear on radio shows, speak at seminars and produce and post videos on YouTube.com wherein they slowly, meticulously and methodically purport to quote the fictional (fake) character, "Judge DALE" (which they themselves created) by reading "his" forged (fake) documents (that they themselves also created) with a reverence reserved for Holy Scripture. Their public performance in this regard are truly worthy of Oscars. If nothing else, you have to admit, these people have nerve.
The very same people behind the original "Judge DALE Hoax" also provide cheerleading services in support of the fictional (fake) character that they themselves created and for "his" forgeries that they themselves also created and caused to be posted online. Specifically, the same people behind the original "Judge DALE Hoax" write favorable commentary about their own hoax and post them on affiliated websites while pretending to be neutral observers. One example of these cheerleading commentaries include this one, "Judge DALE provides some excellent information about what is going on behind the scenes in the world of banking [as if "he" would know]... .", as seen on beforeitsnews.com and starshipearththebigpicture.com. Another example of these cheerleading commentaries include this one, "The following information provided by Judge DALE (a retired federal judge) is extremely important for all Americans... .", as seen on amazon.com, project alvalon.net and howtoexitthematrix.com. Often the cheerleading commentary and the forged (fake) article to which it refers are written, together, combined together, distributed together and posted online together as a "package deal". That way, the article and the cheerleading commentary that refers to it always appear together. Thus, the cheerleading commentary provided by the people behind the Judge DALE Hoax" praising their own hoax is as much of a fraud as is the forged (fake) article to which it purports to refer.
"OK, So, the people behind the "Judge DALE Hoax" are liars and frauds, the name of the author of the forged (fake) documents was also a fraud, the credentials and qualifications of the author were also a fraud, but isn't their some value in the content of the forged (fake) documents and articles apart from the pattern of fraud behind them?"
The answer is "no". The forged (fake) documents and articles are nothing but a catalogue of every amateur legal theory that has ever failed in a court of law. According to the courts that have considered the exact same amateur legal theories advanced by the forgeries (and that is all that counts for legal purposes), the amateur legal theories advanced by the subject forgeries are: "delusional"; "patently ludicrous"; "humorous"; "bizarre"; "simply wrong"; "nonsense"; "non-sensicle"; "irrelevant"; "quasi-legalese"; a "psuedotheory"; "largely unintelligible"; "utterly incomprehensible"; "devoid of merit"; "patently without merit"; "completely without merit"; "meritless"; "lacks merit"; "lack merit"; "wholly baseless"; "utterly frivolous"; "patently frivolous"; "wholly frivolous"; "frivolous"; "factually and legally frivolous"; have "been repeatedly rejected by every court to have considered [them]"; "have been rejected by the courts"; are "routinely rejected"; "have long been rejected"; "have been rejected as frivolous"; "should be rejected summarily"; "have been soundly rejected"; "have been squarely rejected"; "will be rejected"; "have been struck down consistently"; "are frivolous and a waste of court resources"; have "absolutely no legal basis"; are "contrary to established law"; have "no conceivable validity in American law"; have "no sound basis"; are "unavailing, frivolous, and without any legal support"; "lack an arguable basis in either law or fact"; have "no support in law"; there is "no legal authority supporting [the proponent's] contention"; have "no support in law"; are "without legal significance"; has "absolutely no basis"; are "a waste of their [the proponent of the theory] time as well as the court's time, which is paid for by hard earned tax dollars"; "unimpressive"; "do not come close to establishing a meritorious defense"; reflect an "unreasonable world view".
The foregoing judicial quotes were made in response to an amateur litigant raising the same exact amateur legal theories reflected in the subject forgeries. Not, only that, but many of the foregoing quotes are from Rodney Dale Class' own cases (the true author of the subject forgeries). Suffice it to say, that in terms of real courts in the real world, the amateur legal theories reflected in the subject forgeries are completely and utterly worthless.
Our purpose in revealing the "Judge DALE Hoax" to the public is to reduce the number of victims who are duped by the" Judge DALE Hoax" and to otherwise reduce the harm that those behind the "Judge DALE Hoax" purposely and intentionally inflict upon the American people every single day.
At present, we do not intend to publically reveal the identities of the main people behind the "Judge DALE Hoax" unless we should be attacked by anyone or if the hoax should be denied by anyone. Thus, our purpose is to reduce the harm done by the "Judge DALE Hoax" without harming the people behind the "Judge DALE Hoax".
Proof that "Judge DALE" is "Rodney DALE Class"
We actually know the people behind the "Judge DALE Hoax". (They are not identified above). We do not hate these people. We hate what they are doing to the American people every single day.
They first contacted us, not the other way around. These people are like a religious cult. They are combative, almost militant. They tried to convert us to their belief system about the law and the legal system in exactly the same way that a religious cult tries to convert others to their religious beliefs. They sent us volumes of documents by email, including all of the original "Judge DALE" forgeries listed above.
When we reviewed the forged (fake) documents in question, it was immediately obvious to us that they were fakes. They were riddled with mistakes of a type that even a first year law student would not make, much less a "retired federal judge" (misuse of simple legal terms, inability to correctly cite case law and statutory law, no knowledge of procedure or the purpose of filing routine legal documents, etc.). These forgeries amounted to a catalogue of every amateur pseudo-legal theory that ever appeared on the internet and that had ever been rejected as frivolous by a court of law. Thus, we knew that the real author of the subject forged (fake) documents was an amateur pseudo-legal theorist who knew nothing about the law and the legal system as it actually exists. So, we set out to determine the identity of the real author of the forgeries in question.
Soon, we made the obvious connection between "Judge DALE" and "Rodney DALE Class", starting with their common name, "DALE". Both characters were amateur pseudo-legal gurus with no knowledge of the law and the legal system as it actually exists. Both characters and their belief systems were promoted and praised by the very same people and the very same websites (because, they were in reality, the same person). They both had identical belief systems about the law and the legal system. They both taught the same things in the same order (the act creating a city government for Washington D.C. made the federal government a for-profit corporation and limited the federal jurisdiction of the United States to the city limits of Washington D.C. and certain federal territories, a subsequent act made all citizens "enemies" of the United States, etc.). The both made the same mistakes about the same things (they both mistakenly believed that the definitions of one inapplicable statute, which apply only to that inapplicable statute, could be used as a defense in connection with the alleged violation of an entirely different statute which had its own definitions that applied only to it, they both mistakenly believed that federal rules of procedure applied in state court actions and vice versa, they both mistakenly thought that federal substantive law applied in state court actions, they both mistakenly thought that civil rules of procedure applied in criminal cases and vice versa, they both mistakenly thought that civil substantive law applied in criminal cases and vice versa, they both mistakenly cited the same legal authorities for legal propositions for which those legal authorities do not stand such as, Bond v. United States and the Clearfield Trust case).
We contacted these people by email and advised them that we had determined that "Judge DALE" was really "Rodney DALE Class", that their documents were forged (fake) and that one day they were going to "get busted" for inflicting this elaborate "hoax" upon the American people. These people responded by admitting that they knew "Rodney DALE Class" very well, but at first they denied that "Rodney DALE Class" was "Judge DALE". Later, after a series of emails debating the point, they admitted to us that "Rodney DALE Class" really was "Judge DALE". We thought that this would be a turning point in the "Judge DALE Hoax". But, it was not.
Thereafter, despite admitting to us that "Rodney DALE Class" really was "Judge DALE", these people continued on perpetuating the hoax "business as usual". These people refused to take down the forgeries from their own websites. They refused to take down their YouTube.com videos. To the contrary, they posted additional fake documents that they claimed were written by "Judge DALE" on the websites and elsewhere.
So, we were placed in an ethical dilemma. We could do nothing at all and thereby become complicit in the "Judge DALE Hoax" ourselves. We could reveal the hoax and the identities of the perpetuators and their websites. Or, we could take a middle ground and reveal the hoax to the American people without revealing the identities of the perpetrators or their websites. We chose the latter approach.
Despite admitting to us that "Judge DALE" really was "Rodney DALE Class" (Oh yes, we saved the email), the main people behind the "Judge DALE Hoax" told us that their discontinuing the "Judge DALE Hoax" and their telling the American people the truth about "Judge DALE" was a "low priority" for them. They thought that stopping their fraud upon the American people was something that was unimportant. We have a number of emails from these people to this very same effect (Oh yes, we saved these emails). We were absolutely astonished by the contempt that these people had for the American people. We believed that the American people deserved better from these people. More and more Americans were being duped by the hoax every single day and the people behind the hoax refused to stop the fraud and refused to come clean about the hoax.
So, we had a moral decision to make. We made it. We revealed the truth about the "Judge DALE Hoax" to the American people. We believe that the American people deserved the truth. The people behind the "Judge DALE Hoax" did not think that we were capable of revealing the truth about the "Judge DALE Hoax" to the American people. They were wrong. Our loyalty is to the American people, not to a clever hoax or to the people behind it.
The "Judge DALE Hoax" raises two fundamental questions:
1. Do the American people have a right to know the truth about the credentials of the author of legal documents upon which they will be asked to rely when their own life, liberty, property and finances (and that of their families) are at stake in the legal system?
2. Are the very same people that have proven themselves capable of lying to the American people about the credentials of the author of legal document also be capable of lying to the American people about the true status of the law and the legal system?
We believe that the answer to both of these questions is yes.
Does anyone have some knowledge of a supposedly authentic Judge Dale message -- from "the judge" himself -- since New Year's Day 2015?? If so, please provide the text or a link AND the DATE.
I ask this because I attribute Judge Dale to John MacHaffie, of mostly NESARA, who died in January 2015. So continuing Judge Dale messages would indicate that someone else was now pulling the puppet strings and perhaps had been Judge Dale all along (instead of MacHaffie, or even Class, whom I think is now locked up).
Once again, no matter who is behind the Judge Dale communications, he's no lawyer and relying on him is perilous.
Your comments online are always thoughtful and scholarly.
The people behind the "Judge DALE Hoax" have already admitted that "Judge DALE" really is "Rodney DALE Class". These are the very same people who completely re-write, copyright and license out fake pseudo-legal documents that they fraudulently claim were written by "Judge DALE". So, the very same people that effectively claim legal ownership of the "Judge DALE Hoax" (by copyrighting and licensing of the "Judge DALE" forgeries) also claim that "Judge DALE" is really "Rodney DALE Class". In my opinion, the people who copyright and license out the entire catalogue of "Judge DALE forgeries" are in the best position to know the true identity of the author of their own forgeries. Just a thought.
I agree with you that the person (or persons) writing as "Judge DALE" has (have) no legal training and know nothing whatsoever of the law and the legal system as it actually exists.
I also agree with you that when an amateur pseudo-legal theorist pretends to be a judge, such pretending reveals that person's amateurism and that amateurism leads to fakery and hoaxing. This case is living proof of that.
I certainly hope that you are right in your estimate that less than a hundred victims got duped by the "Judge DALE Hoax". My estimate is a more pessimistic.
Regardless, perhaps fewer victims will be duped in the future, not that the hoax has become public knowledge.
There are at least two other candidates for "Judge Dale", and I am very much persuaded by the fact that the EXCLUSIVE source of Judge Dale material was John MacHaffie, who died in Mid-January 2015 and after that Judge Dale has been silent. Some other people might be promoting their guess that it's Rodney Class, but I've read some of Class's pleadings and they are not in Judge Dale's style - although just as wrongheaded.
So, what's the latest communication direct from Judge Dale? Let's see what he's written since MacHaffie went below.