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Another one for the grinder...
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hi everyone, maybe a bit off topic but I'm stuck basically i have a bankruptcy petition on tuesday the 9th down south in southend county court for non payment of council tax and if anyone is up for attending with me only as witnesses you don't have to do or say anything just be there and watch - ill pay for your time and drive you down there and drive you back - i will return this favour you have my word, its for 11,000 pounds which i don't owe and they cannot prove that i do, the council created this number out of thin air - i need all the people i can get please help
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Well if he doesn't owe it and council can't prove that he does what's the problem? He doesn't need a mute witness; just tell the court the facts and let the council carry the burden of proof. How can that go wrong?
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I'm still trying to figure out what the value of the "witness" is when it all comes down.

I would be interested to know what his belief that he doesn't owe the 11k is, other than wishful thinking.
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The average rate of council tax for an average family house would be about £1000 a year give or take a bit.

Unless he owns a substantial mansion or two, or a bunch of 'buy to let' property, it would be pretty tough to rack up £11000 in CT arrears. There must be more to this than the average man in the street could manage unaided.
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Judging by his FB profile, it appears he was into dealing cars? Could it be business rates?

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JimUk1 wrote:Judging by his FB profile, it appears he was into dealing cars? Could it be business rates?

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I thought the amount sounded like business rates to me.
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Crabbie realises the "lobby the bobby" campaign is doomed. Some of his assumptions are a perfect example of the A61 arrogance and why they'll never amount to anything.
I might get shot down by the admins here, but I have to say it. Lobby the bobby is never going to work, even though it is the best way to go, the bobby is never going to go along with or be allowed to go along with Article 61 Magna Carta 1215. I witnessed this in Birmingham.

I’m sure the 200 active members know how hard it is to convince family and friends, I’ve had many debates with those close to me. Even though they know what I’m saying is right that’s as far as it goes. They listen and agree, but the next day it’s forgotten until you mention it all again, then they say, ‘oh not that again’, even though they agreed the last time you spoke about it. And then they start thinking you’ve got a mental problem.

I think rather than lobby the bobby we should lobby the people, because the bobbies are far outnumbered compared to the people. Forget about laws, statutes, acts, religion and all that crap and start thinking about common sense. If you can’t use common sense, then you might as well give up and give in to the system. If you give in to the system then you can’t complain about anything, you can blame others for your predicament but at the end of the day you can only blame yourself. We all have a mind of our own, all we need to do is learn how to use it. Time for action let’s support those in need of support, look at every case as if it was your own case.
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JimUk1 wrote:Judging by his FB profile, it appears he was into dealing cars? Could it be business rates?

https://ecomotorscuckney.wixsite.com/eco-motors1
Could be business rates, but usually people are quite clear about the difference.

I see he is selling, or was selling cheap cars around 10 years old, this can be a good business or a minefield depending on the competence and integrity of the dealer. 21st C. cars are so much more durable and reliable than they used to be that good ten year old examples of almost anything can be good value for money. They can also be money pits, depending on where the dealer buys his stock and how much he pays for it, and how well the cars are checked. It may just be that someone about to be made bankruot for reasons he professed not to understand may not have been all that good a car dealer either.
He does not seem to have been making enough money to pay his bills in quite a big way.
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I’ve had many debates with those close to me. Even though they know what I’m saying is right that’s as far as it goes. They listen and agree, but the next day it’s forgotten
Possibly not so much of a debate as a monologue. People will 'agree' with anything if it will make you shut up and go away.
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If you can’t use common sense, then you might as well give up and give in to the system.
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More win!!!1!!!

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I seem to recall her being one of TCs big fans.

Thank god Stuart is on hand
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Ever reliable rebel Eddy Adler has been reading too much of the ‘Neelu berry prophecies’.
There are rumours, but I’m not sure what Trump is really up to. However, it would figure that the figurehead leaders of countries are merely puppets & actors taking part in a pantomime, drama or soap opera, …
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A PLDer speaking up in favour of paying tax. Or to be more exact I think he's in favour of other people paying tax ..
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Paying tax is optional and always has been. They normally ignore this fact so one way around it is to prove that your tax is being used to fund proxy wars abroad and arms sales which are responsible for the deaths of many innocent civilians and under the Nuremberg treaty (I think) it was agreed that no wars could be started unless we come under attack from a foreign enemy, which basically means that any tax payer is actually committing a crime by contributing to these deaths through their tax contributions. I haven't researched this for a couple of years but basically I got screwed over by HMRC for buying products on Ebay (but couldn't get receipts from many suppliers because they bullshitted they were actually VAT registered when they weren't (whole new story on this at vatfraud.org). To cut a long story short ...
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aesmith wrote:A PLDer speaking up in favour of paying tax. Or to be more exact I think he's in favour of other people paying tax ..
Julian Price
Paying tax is optional and always has been. They normally ignore this fact so one way around it is to prove that your tax is being used to fund proxy wars abroad and arms sales which are responsible for the deaths of many innocent civilians and under the Nuremberg treaty (I think) it was agreed that no wars could be started unless we come under attack from a foreign enemy, which basically means that any tax payer is actually committing a crime by contributing to these deaths through their tax contributions. I haven't researched this for a couple of years but basically I got screwed over by HMRC for buying products on Ebay (but couldn't get receipts from many suppliers because they bullshitted they were actually VAT registered when they weren't (whole new story on this at vatfraud.org). To cut a long story short ...
I'm pretty sure that argument went all the way to The House of Lords some decades ago when a clergyman of some sort withheld tax because nuclear weapons were illegal or immoral of both. Said clergyman lost so y'know... Common law and that :-D
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and under the Nuremberg treaty (I think) it was agreed that no wars could be started unless we come under attack from a foreign enemy
Which Nuremberg treaty is that? The imaginary one or the non-existent one? :shrug:
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BoomerSooner17 wrote:
and under the Nuremberg treaty (I think) it was agreed that no wars could be started unless we come under attack from a foreign enemy
Which Nuremberg treaty is that? The imaginary one or the non-existent one? :shrug:
The middle one. :snicker:
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Oh this is wonderful... Another SUCCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!! turns to shit....
Brian Varney
9 January at 15:20

Just used the chat option on the HMRC web page just to find out if my tax affairs are in order ( a bit naughty, I know). Everything's ok sir, all looks in order with nothing outstanding.

Well then, what does this mean to me? It means that the extortionate demands for monies is no longer an issue. Was this due to launching the full process right up to misprision of treason? Mind you, they did say they "this matter is now closed" last year.

The money was never the issue here folks, it was the Question of AUTHORITY or lack of it.

...and then there's the usual idiotic replies and then...

Brian Varney (11th Jan)

UPDATE .....Just noticed what the imposters have done. They have decreased my tax free allowance by a couple of thousand pounds. Dirty tricks.

I WON, I WON, I WON... The notices work!!... Oh FUCK!!!!!!... :snicker:
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The money was never the issue here folks, it was the Question of AUTHORITY or lack of it.
It's always the money.
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Death and taxes Brian Varney, death and taxes.
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longdog wrote:Oh this is wonderful... Another SUCCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!! turns to shit....
Brian Varney
9 January at 15:20

Just used the chat option on the HMRC web page just to find out if my tax affairs are in order ( a bit naughty, I know). Everything's ok sir, all looks in order with nothing outstanding.

Well then, what does this mean to me? It means that the extortionate demands for monies is no longer an issue. Was this due to launching the full process right up to misprision of treason? Mind you, they did say they "this matter is now closed" last year.

The money was never the issue here folks, it was the Question of AUTHORITY or lack of it.

...and then there's the usual idiotic replies and then...

Brian Varney (11th Jan)

UPDATE .....Just noticed what the imposters have done. They have decreased my tax free allowance by a couple of thousand pounds. Dirty tricks.

I WON, I WON, I WON... The notices work!!... Oh FUCK!!!!!!... :snicker:
I see the Taxman is growing tired of PLD games.

Another short lived victory for the PLD idiots.

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