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Burnaby49 wrote: Now on to SteveUK. I have to accept a massive failure on my part if he is correct. I've spent almost 20 years pubbing in the UK with one friend. We've been to Nottingham three times and had a beer at 40 different pubs there. Yet I didn't notice a significant presence of mild. Maybe, with my loyalty to bitter, I'm blind to mild on tap.
you may well be, this is the list - I'll wager its the greatest concentration of Milds on the planet.

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Let me tell you of how I was also bitterly deceived by a money grubbing whore of a major corporate monstrosity. I was in Seattle, summer, sitting outside a pub on a beautiful day so I decided to have lager. Good, light summer beer. I ordered a botted Kirin, a bland but refreshing Japanese beer. It said 'imported' on the beer list. I took one swill of it and almost spewed. Totally revolting. I checked the label. It was brewed by Molson in Toronto for export. Molson is unable to brew anything but shit.
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Burnaby49 wrote:Let me tell you of how I was also bitterly deceived by a money grubbing whore of a major corporate monstrosity. I was in Seattle, summer, sitting outside a pub on a beautiful day so I decided to have lager. Good, light summer beer. I ordered a botted Kirin, a bland but refreshing Japanese beer. It said 'imported' on the beer list. I took one swill of it and almost spewed. Totally revolting. I checked the label. It was brewed by Molson in Toronto for export. Molson is unable to brew anything but shit.
Know thy enemy- I didn’t even realise that Heineken had bastardised 20 other brews.

They’ve all made the ‘avoid’ list now-

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JimUk1 wrote:
Burnaby49 wrote:Let me tell you of how I was also bitterly deceived by a money grubbing whore of a major corporate monstrosity. I was in Seattle, summer, sitting outside a pub on a beautiful day so I decided to have lager. Good, light summer beer. I ordered a botted Kirin, a bland but refreshing Japanese beer. It said 'imported' on the beer list. I took one swill of it and almost spewed. Totally revolting. I checked the label. It was brewed by Molson in Toronto for export. Molson is unable to brew anything but shit.
Know thy enemy- I didn’t even realise that Heineken had bastardised 20 other brews.

They’ve all made the ‘avoid’ list now-

https://www.heineken.co.uk/brands
To my knowledge, they haven't ruined Newcastle Brown Ale -- yet.
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Pottapaug1938 wrote:To my knowledge, they haven't ruined Newcastle Brown Ale -- yet.
It's impossible to ruin NB because it's already a horrible, soapy abomination.
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longdog wrote:
Pottapaug1938 wrote:To my knowledge, they haven't ruined Newcastle Brown Ale -- yet.
It's impossible to ruin NB because it's already a horrible, soapy abomination.
Taken straight from the Tyne !
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Burnaby49 wrote:Let me tell you of how I was also bitterly deceived by a money grubbing whore of a major corporate monstrosity. I was in Seattle, summer, sitting outside a pub on a beautiful day so I decided to have lager. Good, light summer beer. I ordered a botted Kirin, a bland but refreshing Japanese beer. It said 'imported' on the beer list. I took one swill of it and almost spewed. Totally revolting. I checked the label. It was brewed by Molson in Toronto for export. Molson is unable to brew anything but shit.
That was so funny I'm not even expecting you to pay for the keyboard I just ruined. :haha:


At least as funny as my "Momma's Biscuits" screed on another post
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I had another such experience much earlier, well over forty years ago, probably closer to fifty. I was just at the start of my beer-swilling excesses. It involved a totally disgusting Guinness. Back then Guinness was bottled locally under license by, I believe, Carling-O'Keefe. It was absolutely wretched stuff, more swill. Even someone as inexperienced as I was at that time could tell it was awful beer. But I figured that's how the legendary Guinness was supposed to taste because, in my ignorance, I didn't think that a well-known name like Guinness would just licensed the rights to the name without caring what the end product was.

A bit of history to show how the British Columbia government gave the breweries an incentive to produce crap beer. From 1924 until neighbourhood pubs were established in the 1970's you could only go pubbing in government licensed beer parlours. The number wasn't increased significantly in the 50 year period making it a seller's market. They were huge barns with very rigid rules established to stop patrons from enjoying themselves. That was an actual government goal. Tiny circular tables (by regulation) that could seat, at most four. Patrons were not allowed to buy a beer until the ones on the table were completely finished. Price and size of beer (one size, very small) set by law. There were separate entrances for men and women leading to separate facilities. Women could go into the men's portion if escorted by a male but otherwise no. Not that many women apart from drunks and whores wanted to go into those shitholes. Things like that.

But the capper was the beer selection. There was none. By law beer parlours could not sell any alcoholic products apart from beer and they were only allowed to have one, single, unidentified beer on tap. That's it, whatever swill the owners chose to serve, the government didn't care what it was and neither did the beer parlour owners. There was a virtual monopoly on beer parlours with no new licenses in decades so the owners didn't worry about competition. They focused on price, their price. Since they were regulated on selling price the cheaper the beer they sold the higher the profits. So the breweries competed to sell the beer parlours the cheapest beer they could pump out. Didn't hurt their brand name no matter how bad it was because nobody knew what was being served and they were all the same anyhow.

But in the end the electorate forced changes. In the 1970s the legislation was relaxed to allow neighbourhood pubs. Smaller, local establishments that could serve whatever alcohol they wanted. After that, and other legislative changes, the beer parlours were doomed. They had no goodwill and no business plan that could save them. Now just a bad memory.
"Yes Burnaby49, I do in fact believe all process servers are peace officers. I've good reason to believe so." Robert Menard in his May 28, 2015 video "Process Servers".

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Burnaby49 wrote:A bit of history to show how the British Columbia government Canadian gave the breweries and incentive to produce crap beer.... <snip>
Truly the stuff of nightmares :?
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longdog wrote:
Burnaby49 wrote:A bit of history to show how the British Columbia government Canadian gave the breweries and incentive to produce crap beer.... <snip>
Truly the stuff of nightmares :?
Change that sentence too;
A bit of history to show how the British Columbia government gave the breweries an incentive to produce crap beer.
The result of the province's restrictive alcohol policies was exactly the same as what happened in the United States because of prohibition. Overwhelming official corruption. The British Columbian police forces were totally corrupted by the opportunities available through the laws.

We had world-famous night clubs, Sinatra, Louis Armstrong, Tony Bennett, they were all here frequently in the 50s at the Cave, Palomar, the Penthouse. All the legends. But no alcohol allowed. So, like prohibition, patrons brought their own bottles. Honest law-abiding citizens, My Parents!, ignored the laws. They'd put the bottle under the table and pay liquor prices for mixers. Everybody knew including the police. So the police would raid every night club frequently. But not to enforce the law but to profit from it. Corruption was so deep that it was officially part of the system. Nobody wanted to kill the golden goose by arresting my parents out for a night's enjoyment so night clubs were told in advance about police raids. They'd announce it at the club, patrons would finish their drinks and wait for the show. Police would sweep in, check under the tables and confiscate the bottles. Nobody got charged and the booze would somehow disappear between the club and the evidence locker. The police themselves became the bootleggers. We had one on my block in Vancouver in the 50s. Every once in a while there'd be a big expose, a police chief would be fired and nothing changed.

So, in 1954 the government started allowing cocktail lounges. Drinking was allowed at the bar, the first time since saloons closed 1925. But even then corruption continued because the government tried to punish establishments they didn't approve of by not allowing licenses. The Penthouse was very much in that roster with raids, corrupt police confiscations, trials and acquittals (jury's had had enough of the official hypocrisy). Finally the government threw in the towel and gave up. But not for beer parlours. Those rules didn't change because beer was still available even if shit so there was no opportunity for the police to benefit. Even then popular opinion broke beer open in the 1970s. It took that long before you could sit in a pub in British Columbia and have a selection of beers to chose from. Now, as I can attest, Vancouver is a beer nirvana. But it took most of my lifetime to get there.
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more win!!1!!
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Good afternoon all. I urgently ask for some guidance/ assistance if possible, please.

I awoke today to find an attachment of earnings on my wages. Having spoken to payroll at work they had received a priority order on 18th December instructing them to deduct 17% of my wages. I rang Southern Derby Magistrates who informed me this relates to a bus lane fine (of all things) dating back to 2013, which totals to £1490, apparently consisting of mainly court fees & victim surcharges
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SteveUK wrote:more win!!1!!
Andrew Briscoe
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Good afternoon all. I urgently ask for some guidance/ assistance if possible, please.

I awoke today to find an attachment of earnings on my wages. Having spoken to payroll at work they had received a priority order on 18th December instructing them to deduct 17% of my wages. I rang Southern Derby Magistrates who informed me this relates to a bus lane fine (of all things) dating back to 2013, which totals to £1490, apparently consisting of mainly court fees & victim surcharges
We all need to encourage this. If we can get more FMOTLs to go from £60 owed to £1490 owed in less than five years, how much could this reduce income tax?
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Almost £1500?!!? Wow, I gotta hand it to y'all, you know how to apply a late fee!
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Gregg wrote:Almost £1500?!!? Wow, I gotta hand it to y'all, you know how to apply a late fee!
:Axe:

And payable in cold hard £ sterling direct from source. Ghastly experience for our PLD friends.
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SteveUK wrote:
Gregg wrote:Almost £1500?!!? Wow, I gotta hand it to y'all, you know how to apply a late fee!
:Axe:

And payable in cold hard £ sterling direct from source. Ghastly experience for our PLD friends.
.... and only applied to the most deserving (aka the biggest Pillocks) !!
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With a bit of luck he'll start sending treason notices to his own employers and he'll get out of paying by the simple expedient of being handed his cards :-D
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SteveUK wrote:more win!!1!!
And notice one of them wittering on about Statute of Limitations, firstly getting the duration wrong and secondly missing the fact that this isn't a debt it's an unpaid fine. Is there no limit to the ways they can "not get it"?
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Burnaby49 wrote:Let me tell you of how I was also bitterly deceived by a money grubbing whore of a major corporate monstrosity. I was in Seattle, summer, sitting outside a pub on a beautiful day so I decided to have lager. Good, light summer beer. I ordered a botted Kirin, a bland but refreshing Japanese beer. It said 'imported' on the beer list. I took one swill of it and almost spewed. Totally revolting. I checked the label. It was brewed by Molson in Toronto for export. Molson is unable to brew anything but shit.
When I am crossing back to my side of the border from yours, I always visit the Duty Free shops. Always prominent, there, are cases and cases of Molson Export. I've always wondered how it tasted.

Thanks for the warning. I'll stick with Unibroue's "Maudite".
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Roy's "success" (!!1!!) detector gland is malfunctioning today.
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SteveUK wrote:Roy's "success" (!!1!!) detector gland is malfunctioning today.
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In other words the debt collector stage is over so the next step is straight to court and then the bailiffs get involved. Mind you that could just be Rossendales again as they have been High Court Bailiffs since 2010.