Random Freemanesque Babblings II: Back to the Futile

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NYGman wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:21 pm OT: On Facebook to keep up with old Friends and Family, but do think it is a bit of a cesspit. In the same vein as smart people falling for FMOTL or Soverin' theories to detax themselves, I see intelligent people I know and may be
It is ridiculous how people only accept alternative history that they agree with. I’m not sure if they deliberately ignore accepted history or are just so blinded by their own prejudices can’t accept they’re wrong.
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NYGman wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:21 pm OT: On Facebook to keep up with old Friends and Family, but do think it is a bit of a cesspit.
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I left Facebook three years ago exactly because of this and I haven't missed it at all. Rebutting my mother's reposts of Britain First material when she is herself an immigrant became wearing. I'd rather be ignorant of the ignorance of people I like.

However, I still find it amusing that the FOTLers of this world trust their threats and quite often document their criminal behaviour on a platform that is just one magistrate warrant away from complete access by the police.
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JimUk1 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:34 pm
NYGman wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:21 pm OT: On Facebook to keep up with old Friends and Family, but do think it is a bit of a cesspit. In the same vein as smart people falling for FMOTL or Soverin' theories to detax themselves, I see intelligent people I know and may be
It is ridiculous how people only accept alternative history that they agree with. I’m not sure if they deliberately ignore accepted history or are just so blinded by their own prejudices can’t accept they’re wrong.
Ridiculous yes, common, oh yeah so VERY. Most if not all of them have had their delusions pointed out to them, usually repeatedly, and to no affect. What has been pointed out to them is contrary to WHAT they want to believe and so it will be down played, disregarded, and ignored. So yes, very willful ignorance. (my emphasis above)
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I use Facebook for friends and friends of friends I have met personally and got on with OK. No family because I don't get on with them and wouldn't want them to know half of what my friends know about me anyway. Anybody who posts racist, bigoted shit I defriend immediately although this very rarely happens.

The groups are purely a playground for me to mock idiots and ask impossible to answer questions like "do you have any evidence for that?"
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AnOwlCalledSage wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:05 pm However, I still find it amusing that the FOTLers of this world trust their threats and quite often document their criminal behaviour on a platform that is just one magistrate warrant away from complete access by the police.
Warrant? Who needs a warrant? Just ask an advertiser.
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Arthur Rubin wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:40 pm
AnOwlCalledSage wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:05 pm However, I still find it amusing that the FOTLers of this world trust their threats and quite often document their criminal behaviour on a platform that is just one magistrate warrant away from complete access by the police.
Warrant? Who needs a warrant? Just ask an advertiser.
I know a warrant isn't necessary here in the US as it's publicly available.
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TBL wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:52 pm I know a warrant isn't necessary here in the US as it's publicly available.
I guess that's true, with NSA data available via wikileaks! :wink:
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JimUk1 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:43 amStone henge was actually built by ancient aliens who had predicted this white genocide so left the planet for mars.
No, no, Stonehenge was built by the remnant of the Myceans after the eruption of Thera. See Stonehenge: Where Atlantis Died. (Although absurd, it is consistent with a legitimate (although short-lived) academic theory.)
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What has never ceased to amaze me is how many sovcits, and otherwise crazy people for that matter, as well as otherwise sane normal people think that what they put out on face plant is "private" out of the public view etc. Really really amazes me. And they are so very very shocked when it comes back to bite them.
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Indeed. There are plenty of Facebook cranks in their crank groups who have "reported" me to Facebook / the cops for "hacking their account". What was this hacking? Screen grabbing the insane, hateful shit they have posted on their public profile and pea-roasting it. I'm not sure if they even know Facebook has privacy settings which might go some way to to explaining why the look at mine, see almost nothing and accuse me of being a paid government disinformation agent with a fake account.

I've been on the internet since before there was an internet and I still follow the principle that EVERYTHING you post on the internet is public and even if it isn't it might be at some point.
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You can add the utoobey to that list, amazing how many of them think that is private as well and get all frothy when you post a link or a bit from one of their cray cray fests. Even better when it gets used in a criminal action.
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notorial dissent wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:07 pm You can add the utoobey to that list, amazing how many of them think that is private as well and get all frothy when you post a link or a bit from one of their cray cray fests. Even better when it gets used in a criminal action.
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longdog wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:28 pm
I've been on the internet since before there was an internet and I still follow the principle that EVERYTHING you post on the internet is public and even if it isn't it might be at some point.
And even the most native user would know what you post publicly in Facebook would be public.
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notorial dissent wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:07 pm You can add the utoobey to that list, amazing how many of them think that is private as well and get all frothy when you post a link or a bit from one of their cray cray fests. Even better when it gets used in a criminal action.
Don't you know Da Yoooooootube is run by Da Joooooooos (because it kicked some white nationalists off its site)?

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MiddlesexFinn wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:22 am Don't you know Da Yoooooootube is run by Da Joooooooos (because it kicked some white nationalists off its site)?
Actually, the algorithm is pretty bad. It kicked off white nationalists and people talking about white nationalists....
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notorial dissent wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:07 pm You can add the utoobey to that list, amazing how many of them think that is private as well and get all frothy when you post a link or a bit from one of their cray cray fests. Even better when it gets used in a criminal action.
Around here the sequence usually ends up being a self reinforcing fantasy world. There is one private facebook discussion group with 7200+ members that serves as a forum for a largely rural area with a total population of less than fifteen thousand. In other words, the vast majority of those old enough to have a facebook account are members and everyone knows everybody else. Someone posts a crazy rant referencing a blend of white replacement theory, the province of Quebec, and one Canadian political party. The next day they are looking for a new job since their employer takes a dim view of this stuff. This only reinforces their theory and they return to the group and tell everyone how terrible it all is. They honestly just don't get it...
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Alternatively, or perhaps conjointly, even in the super secret private groups, there is always at least one, or more people who happily repost and blab not matter what it is or who it is about.

Basically, they ain't no secrets on the innerwebs baby.....
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Arthur Rubin wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2019 5:47 pm
MiddlesexFinn wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:22 am Don't you know Da Yoooooootube is run by Da Joooooooos (because it kicked some white nationalists off its site)?
Actually, the algorithm is pretty bad. It kicked off white nationalists and people talking about white nationalists....
Well done :sarcasmon:
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I know that some conspiracy debunking channels have been purged. There was one called "The Spoof Movement" which doesn't seem to have any videos now and there were some channels which questioned somewhat loosely founded claims of Satanic ritual abuse* which have gone - so it's true that it's not just the alt-right channels which have been under attack. Oh for the days when YouTube was primarily for sharing information and not for chasing the green backed dollar.

* I realise this is a fraud site and not a conspiracy theory site but (and I haven't the foggiest notion how it happened) there does seem to have been a crossover - with Fotlers anyhow.
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CrankyBoomer wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:31 am * I realise this is a fraud site and not a conspiracy theory site but (and I haven't the foggiest notion how it happened) there does seem to have been a crossover - with Fotlers anyhow.
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