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Freewill is in the mind control section of the jail with what he has that passes for a brain being reprogrammed as I type. We've always wanted a "mole" in their operation, and this has provided that opportunity.

As for rules like "never paying ransom" or "never negotiating with terrorists," I can see you haven't recently bought a ticket to any major entertainment venue. Ouch! And then they add fees for parking, service charges, and buying the tickets over the internet (which is the only way you can) that aren't mentioned up front and you find yourself forking over hundreds of dollars to see a show that barely lasts an hour or a game where the local team looses badly. The very definition of high treason! Yet, even though I rant and rave about this, I still end up doing business with the same treasonous terrorists the next time I feel like a little opera, geriatric Twisted Sister reunion, or seeing a poorly pumped-up pigskin get kicked, carried and passed around.
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Tuesday, October 13, 2015
UPDATE ON FREEWILL OCT 13 2015

EXACTLY the same ALL CAPS text asking for money as the UPDATE ON FREEWILL OCT 9 2015

Posted by Olive Oyl at 2:00 PM

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SJS October 13, 2015 at 4:35 PM
i will send more on the 15th.

OK, I have to ask, could this be a money making scam, not an actual arrest?

It certainly would explain a lot. I almost made a post about Crawford Co. arrests (I had to go one by one through the whole state's consolidated court actions) and the only thing I found that ended in jail was selling and making crystal meth. Nothing that had anything to do with driving without a license or my laundry list of "clues."

Could this just be a way of raising funds? Could the folks at NESARA News be a couple of guys who share pseudonyms as it suits them (I suspect Olive is Popeye's more feminine side) who have decided to have their fictional Freewill arrested and plead for money for his defense?

Your financial support in furthering the federal case against those who seek to force Freewill into financial servitude is greatly appreciated. Roughly $30,000 is required to get Freewill released from his captors. Another $250,000 in legal filing fees and expenses are anticipated at this point in time. We want to take this as far as we can people, not just to get our valued contributor back in action, but to take a stand and say "enough is enough!" to these Judges who feel like they can do anything they please because it is their courtroom. We want to remind them that these courtrooms belong to We The People, and they [Judges and Sheriffs] are our servants by their choice, and if they have any inclinations as to the contrary, they can and will be removed from office. For submission of funds via PayPal, log into your PayPal account, click the "Send" tab at the top, and enter the email address @#$%$!@yahoo.com. Any and all support, regardless of the amount, is greatly appreciated, as are your generosity and concern for an outstanding countryman and patriot.
There seems to be no way to confirm that this arrest ever took place, yet they're asking for tens of thousands. As much as I would LOVE to go to bed thinking that one of the idiots responsible for this garbage was cooling his butt in jail, I'm starting to think that it's more a couple of idiots laughing every time they buy a case of beer courtesy of the "Free Freewill Crusade."

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Deep Knight wrote:As much as I would LOVE to go to bed thinking that one of the idiots responsible for this garbage was cooling his butt in jail, I'm starting to think that it's more a couple of idiots laughing every time they buy a case of beer courtesy of the "Free Freewill Crusade."
I never believed for a second that "Freewill" was ever arrested, or for that matter, existed. Every story about him has been less credible than those tall tales of Paul Bunyan. Even Greg's story about being kidnapped and chipped had some believable stuff (and was far more entertaining). As attractive as it may be to think that a NESARite finally got what was coming to them, I just can't afford to waste even minimal brains entertaining that possibility had occurred.
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I have been led to believe over the years that a Nexus/Lexus search would be able to focus in on things like this (the database I used was chronological and for the whole state). Anyone out there with access to this, to see if anyone admitted to the Crawford Co. Jail Sept 10-12 (based on original posting) or August 27-29 (based on what was said in the long post)? These were the two windows I searched, but they could easily be wider (earlier).
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More responses to the latest NESARA News post.

Anonymous October 13, 2015 at 11:34 PM

Or could you please just give us a post office box number to send it to???

Olive Oyl October 13, 2015 at 11:46 PM

SENT REQUEST FOR POST OFFICE BOX ADDRESS FOR CONTRIBUTIONS - WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN THEY RESPOND. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST AND SUGGESTION, AND FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF FREEWILL. FUNDS ARE DESPERATELY NEEDED TO MOVE HIS CASE FORWARD.

Move his case forward.

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$250,000 in legal filing fees
U wot?
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Jeffrey wrote:
$250,000 in legal filing fees
U wot?
$250,000 was just the asking price, but I think with some wheelin'-dealin' you could get it for $3,000. This would be a one-time offer Thursday and Friday, so act now!

Wednesday, October 14, 2015
UPDATE ON FREEWILL OCT 14 2015

OCT 14 2015
URGENT!

FUNDS ARE AGAIN NEEDED IMMEDIATELY TO COVER URGENT EMERGENCY EXPENSES.
RIGHT NOW WE NEED $3,000 TO MEET THE LEGAL FEES IN OUR EFFORTS TO GET FREEWILL OUT OF JAIL.
HAVING THE $3,000 THURSDAY TO FRIDAY IS KEY.

DONATIONS OF ANY SIZE ARE APPRECIATED - EVEN $1.00, $2.00, $5.00, $10.00, OR MORE - ANYTHING WILL HELP.
FRIENDS, WE'RE TRYING TO GET FREEWILL OUT OF JAIL AS A WINDOW OF TIME PRESENTS ITSELF ON THURSDAY.
DONATIONS MAY BE SENT VIA PAYPAL USING THE RECIPIENT'S EMAIL ADDRESS:

the_Freewill_weekend_beer_fund@yahoo.com

THANK YOU!

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Regardless of whether they got the $3000 by Thursday, I am sure that there will be continued pleas for more money to get Freewilly the legal help that he needs.
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I have to say, everytime I see this thread return, I keep thinking what are they going to do now that their free will is gone? I guess they have no choice but to comply...
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Whether they have free will or not is another question. Hard Determinists would say "not."

New information in the begging post, now dated Friday with the plea for "by Thursday."


DONATIONS MAY BE SENT ... OR POST OFFICE BOX:

P.O. BOX 225
Luzerne, Michigan 48636

Please make payable to Dan Payne

This post also has an interesting chain of additional comments:

Anonymous October 15, 2015 at 12:13 AM

Why do you need money? Just tell them you are not a US citizen subject to maritime/admiralty law and they should boot Freewill out the door.

Anonymous October 15, 2015 at 12:48 PM

He isn't but you don't get a 'fair deal' in the corrupt maritime courts. Why don't you give your suggestion a try - IN FACT PRODUCE THE DOCUMENTATION LIKE HE DID that he is not a 'US citizen" and let us know how you do? We can learn from you. The bulk of the money is needed to cover filings, court costs, supplies, etc. PLUS - he has't been able to report to work in 45+ days - do you have a plan to cover the utilities, food, payments, etc to keep his family????

Popeye October 15, 2015 at 4:00 PM

FREEWILL HAS TAKEN OVER WHERE JOHN LEFT OFF IN WARNING THE PEOPLE ALL THE WHILE NOT COLLECTING A DIME FOR WHAT HE IS DOING, LIKE ALL THE OTHER SITES DO. IT IS BECAUSE OF THIS THEY ARE PICKING ON HIM FOR EXPOSING THEM ....THERE IS NO JUSTICE IN AN UNJUST SYSTEM USING JUDGEY WUDGEYS THAT ARE NOTHING BUT CORPORATE YES BOYZZZZZ.

Anonymous October 15, 2015 at 5:46 PM

His employer will keep him as long as he doesn't enter into any new contracts.
If he signs any agreements to 'be anywhere he is told to be, when he is told to be there' [which is what people working in courts like to do]; then that agreement will replace his agreement to be at work, when he's told to be there.
He has to be careful to not agree with them in any way.
It's hard, because you think that if you agree to something they will let you go.
Each agreement is an attachment, here and hereafter.
Just saying....filings and all yes they cost money.
The people holding him want money, and agreements give them the money they want to extort.
As for the Anonymous 12:13, it's obvious they have NEVER been grabbed by the system.
There are so many that think a process or paper or UCC filing will just hold it's own, and it's not like that at all. Those are just public records of your intent and standing, but you still have to protect and keep those things you claim are yours, and the system tests everyone who has made the claim; when you pass; you pass, and when you fail; you fail.
Passing does not mean they will not attempt another way.
If you saw the movie The Matrix, [everyone is an agent], and someone is always testing you to see if you know who you are, and if you will protect your right or give it to them (and when you give, they say you consented). It is better to protect than to give that which is yours away.
The abuse is horrible once you give, it's limited when you protect.
My opinions only. I do not know FreeWill's situation

Anonymous October 15, 2015 at 6:25 PM

to Anon@12:48 PM
Went thru this years ago; in other words, been there and done that. I listened to some legal guru and tested the issue and got nowhere. Once I learned to read law I figured out that maritime/admiralty argument was bs. I have proved that here on several occasions, but that concept is like a religion. Once it is a "belief" it cannot be dislodged from one's head. I see that here all the time.
In response to your last question, Freewill should have had that covered before he did what he did. Always prepare for the worst case scenarios when dealing with psychopaths wielding power. like I said, been there and done that and I have little sympathy for someone who would not listen and chose to repeat historically failed and useless legal arguments.

marie October 15, 2015 at 10:29 PM

ANON 12:48... You told us that you have been there done that. Where is it that you have been? And...what have you done? We all know that the Maritime law is B.S. What have you proved on several occasions? We do not know what you have written or proved because most people post as anonymous. People believe what they believe because they have been brainwashed or educated in the wrong.....direction. Maybe if you would give some details on how to go about getting out of this for freewill and whomever else is in this situation then it might make sense and help someone. Freewill should have had what covered before he did what? The reason I am asking these questions is that you are just giving everyone reading this an "I TOLD YOU SO" and because you are ANONYMOUS we have no idea who you are or what you have written. Give the people who are helping FREEWILL a solution and not an " I told you so " unless you are behind the scenes helping freewill but we have no way on knowing that. Can you elaborate because I am always willing to listen if it has been proven or if it makes sense.

Anonymous October 16, 2015 at 6:33 PM

This issue (maritime/admiralty law, state citizen v US federal citizen, corporate person, money issue, etc,) has been around for at least 40 years and has been argued in court unsuccessfully too many times to count. I am not behind the scenes helping Freewill. I have seen this maritime/admiralty issue posted repeatedly here thus it seems it was endorsed by this site, and the people associated with it. If you want to take it as an "I told you so", so be it. I was trying to give the benefit of past experience, but as I said, once an idea is adopted religiously, it cannot be undone. On top of that I got called all kinds of names and spoken about in derogatory terms so that the attitude here does not encourage being helpful.

Just as you don't know who I am, you are using anonymous names and I don't know who you are or whether "Freewill" is even a real human being in trouble with the PTB. You want but you don't want to give. As for having "what covered" that should be obvious. If you are going to fight the PTB, you put all your affairs in such a situation so that being put in prison for a time does not hurt you badly and you don't have to go begging on the internet for money.

Now that Freewill has jumped into the fire he is going to have to get burned to learn and advance his knowledge base. I am not going to say he can't win, but it will not be on the issues. My guess is from the money you are asking for, lawyers are involved, and they will only win on legal technicalities. Freewill may have to learn to survive with a 'criminal record'. I wish him the best of luck, but unless things have changed dramatically very recently, Freewill cannot win, no matter what kind of papers he files.

I truly wish I could be of more help, but it is too late to benefit now from anything I have to say. To say Freewill will have to learn the hard way is really good for him, but is not an "I told you so" from me.
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The free, or is it freely, flowing stupid on that site is just quite simply staggering.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.
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Well you certainly cannot demonstrate that a Dinarian is stupid and not stupid at the same time a la the Schrodinger's Cat Experiment. Everyone knows that the stupidity exists, whether or not the poison vial was broken.
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The Observer wrote:Well you certainly cannot demonstrate that a Dinarian is stupid and not stupid at the same time a la the Schrodinger's Cat Experiment. Everyone knows that the stupidity exists, whether or not the poison vial was broken.
I propose the following experiment to prove that Dinarians are only stupid. Start a rumor that the location for Dinar exchanges at $3.81 is smack dab in the middle of a busy interstate. If the interstate becomes clogged with human roadkill, there is absolutely no "not stupid" there.

Now for an explanation of what's what with Freewill from Anonymous 11:38.


Anonymous October 17, 2015 at 11:38 AM

I don't know what 'attorney' people are referring to here. Freewill does not have an 'attorney', especially court appointed, nor one who will file and will sign without his knowledge or approval. But, he DOES have about the BEST legal advisors America can offer - ones that are repeat case WINNERS but who have NOT sworn an oath to the BAR. BIG DIFFERENCE. Rest in that. There are no crimes' - only what the system tells you and me is a 'crime' - but is not. If you research the TRUTH about your right to travel as a for instance, you will find that no car used for family or personal use is required to have a license plate to drive on the roads - nor is one required to produce or carry a drivers license. Many are assuming facts in Freewill's situation incorrectly due to their own personal experiences. You can comment all you want but I hope readers understand they are NOT privy to the sacrifice Freewill is making for you and for me and for our nation. All are commenting as those they are 'attorney' and/or have 'attorney' education and/or experience. Again, that is presumptious. Freewill is in the best of hands but even that costs money he doesn't personally have, and there are filing fees, copy fees, supply costs, fees to make phone calls, etc along with keeping a roof over the family's head - so that is why there is an appeal for funds to assist him. We have not even come close to the truth of the amount that is REALLY needed. Just asking for help as people can do so and grateful for all those who are contributing something to the cause no matter how large or how small. Thank you. Also understand jails and prisons are a BUSINESS - most of which have been turned over to corporations who run those jails and prisons. They are in the business to make money and to create distress with those who wind up there. Pray for his helpers to have the wisdom and divine favor from above, for a quick release and for all the criminal behavior being committed against him (which includes you and me) to become open and an issue commanding the attention and rectification of those in 'authority' in our nation. We want our nation back - out of the control of the commie nazis in power - and returned to the people in our TRUE Republic form. We had hoped Dunford and the so called 'white hats' in the military and Pentagon would be doing this but there are no signs that they are.
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The plot thickens. Did we say Crawford County? That's old news, now it's Bay County.

Sunday, October 18, 2015
UPDATE ON FREEWILL AND HIS LEGAL FIGHT - 2015 OCT 18

I've seen speculation and wreckless commentation on the matter posted on this site. These serve no helpfull purpose.
Some have asked for clarification and details. Some have inquired into the nature of the so-called "charges" against Freewill. It's clear that there are a great many of Americans who haven't yet stepped out of the box to see matters for what they really are, but continue to view and discuss matters in terms and viewpoints drilled into our heads from childhood by the de facto government.

Before anyone ever inquires into the details of a charge, first, evaluate whether a crime has been committed, period, to know whether the charge is falsified or even fraudulent. This goes for anyone, anywhere; and in the de facto government's false courts which ignore the Constitution and which uphold color of law in place of natural and common laws, it's of paramount importance. By law, a crime cannot exist in absence of an injured party, a victim. Get this fact past all the de facto's mental programming and etch it in your memory. This fact has been true since the beginnings of law, thousands of years before our time. There is no, I repeat, NO injured party to have filed the present claims against Freewill. The "charges" against Freewill, in absence of an injured party, are mere CLAIMS against him, claims under maritime law, claims which are unlawfull and constitute fraud; it doesn't matter what the "charges" are if no victim exists, be they motor vehicle code violations (as in Freewill's ongoing cases) or collecting rain water for clean drinking water (yes, there are "charges" being allowed in the courts to victimize those who simply seek to exercise the natural right to gather rain water for their own use). There are NO contracts in existence upon which to base the claims, a fact which fits the definition of fraud; furthermore, the claimant, THE STATE OF MICHIGAN, is a bankrupt corporation, DEAD legally, and the DEAD cannot file legal claims, based on the very fact that NO dead man or woman has ever risen from the grave to step into a court to file a claim. In fact, every bankrupt entity MUST DISCLOSE THE FACT OF ITS BANKRUPT STATUS BEFORE ENTERING INTO ANY CONTRACT, so that the contracted party is made aware of the fact that the bankrupt entity cannot be relied upon to produce assets and/or monies upon demand for compensation under terms of the contract (meaning, if you're going to contract with a bankrupt entity, get your compensation up front, and don't execute your side of the contract until you've received said compensation to your satisfaction). Moreover, ONLY a trustee of the 1933 bankruptcy can speak in any courtroom on behalf of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and any and all of its franchises, subsidiaries, employees and agents, to include THE STATE OF MICHIGAN; ANY PROSECUTOR WHO STANDS AND SPEAKS ON BEHALF OF THESE BANKRUPT ENTITIES COMMITS FELONY CRIMES, INCLUDING IMPERSONATION OF TRUSTEES OF THE 1933 BANKRUPTCY, AND ANY JUDGE WHO ALLOWS THE IMPERSONATION TO CONTINUE ONCE POINTED OUT COMMITS FELONY CRIMES, CRIMES INCLUDING TREASON, A CAPITAL CRIME, PUNISHABLE BY IMMEDIATE HANGING IN THE NEAREST STREET INTERSECTION. With NO victim, and thus no crime, there is NO lawfull basis for imprisonment of Freewill.

Freewill's stint in the facilities of CRAWFORD COUNTY JAIL has come to an end. Two cases remain open, cases in which THE STATE OF MICHIGAN agents have filed illegal claims. The agents decreased their ransom demands when it became apparent that Freewill would not submit to them and their liability for false imprisonment was quickly racking up into the tens and hundreds of millions of dollars in damages. Freewill's friends paid enough of the demanded amount to get Freewill released from captivity in CRAWFORD COUNTY JAIL facilitites. The same day, agents for BAY COUNTY SHERIFF "arrested" (kidnapped according to bona fide law) Freewill to hold him for ransom in BAY COUNTY JAIL facilities on virtually identical claims, again filed by agents for THE STATE OF MICHIGAN, including JUDGE DAWN A KLIDA, Judge Dawn A Klida, Dawn Klida, KURT C ASBURY PROSECUTING ATTORNEY, Kurt C Asbury Prosecuting Attorney, and Kurt Asbury. According to a source close to Freewill, at the arraignment hearing the following day, Oct. 16th, the presiding Judge, a Judge who Freewill has faced in the past and put in her lawfull place, a Judge who wanted a piece of Freewill afterward but had her hands tied, a Judge who wanted to take advantage of holding Freewill captive to prevent him from accessing documents to stand up to her again as she intended to stick it to him, Judge Dawn A Klida, decided or was instructed to remove herself from the case, either to limit her personal liability in the matter and/or the liability of her employer in the matter. It's unknown at present which of Bay County's Judges will consent to commit crimes by proceeding as party to fraud at the pre-trial hearing in mid-November. The Judges and Prosecutors in Bay County are fully aware of the very real likelihood of being added as defendants to Freewill's federal lawsuit, as well as the very real possibility of being arrested for felony crimes at the pre-trial hearing should they proceed with their intended activities. It's obviously a game to them, akin to poker. They do want their payday if they can get it. The question is, do they have the constitution to face the music should they be caught red-handed executing a fraudulent claim and engaging in additional felony crimes, or will they choose, wisely, to drop their proceedings and release Freewill from unlawfull captivity whilst the damages they've inflicted upon him are relatively manageable?

(As of the arraignment hearing, the Bay County court's ransom demand was lowered to $5000. We're hopefull that this demand will decrease again, soon, as the full scope of what's being brought to bear on the judge and prosecutor becomes clearer to them; I, however, cannot speak for these individuals, only they can. Our position in being able to meet the present demand is insufficient.)

With NO trustee of the 1933 bankruptcy present to evaluate THE STATE OF MICHIGAN's claim for legality, THE STATE OF MICHIGAN and its agents, the Bay County Judge, the Bay County Prosecutor, and the Bay County Sheriff all stand in contempt of court, in contempt of Constitution, and in treason. Freewill's imprisonment is unlawfull, aka false imprisonment. False imprisonment, in conjunction with demand for payment for the prisoner's freedom, is no different than kidnapping and holding for ransom. These felony crimes committed and being committed by THE STATE OF MICHIGAN employees, in accordance with corporate [internal] policy, as well as in violation of corporate policy proclaimed to be statutes, proclaimed to be law under color of law, are the crimes we all need to be investigating, learning, and prosecuting. That which has been lodged against Freewill is nothing more than a smokescreen, a ruse, an excuse to drag the man through the de facto's money making machine. If you don't see it that way, you have a lot to learn about the system of slavery we're caught up in, and i strongly suggest you look into how THE DUTCH EAST INDIA TRADING COMPANY, and THE VIRGINIA TRADING COMPANY, conducted themselves in foreign lands, for these corporations are the precursors to corporation THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and all have a long history of invading foreign lands to get rid of the rightfull rulers/governors and leave in place corporate employees who masqueraded as government to enslave the free peoples and rape both the peoples and their lands of wealth and virtue, for profit. This literally is the system we are being subjected to at this very moment, a centuries-old crime spree.

The de facto government has engaged in a long standing campaign, reorganized in the period 1778-1791, when THE VIRGINIA TRADING COMPANY set itself up as THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, to distort our perception of and understanding of everything which goes on around us as the corporation worked to covertly enslave us all, and exploit us as well as our bountifull lands. This was accomplished behind closed doors, over years, with keen sense of caution to move slowly enough that we didn't see their movements going on right before our very eyes; but sum it up, two+ centuries of baby steps, and we see a colossal enslavement and pillaging scheme, with trillions in profits going to the criminals who executed the scheme. We all feel something is wrong in how the de facto conducts itself. But to put it into words, to picture it in our minds, results in conflicting images- conflict which arises by virtue of the mental programming we've all been subjected to at the hands of the de facto goverment's agents and minions, and, sad to say, at the hands of our own parents, who simply have been raised as victims of the same mental programming campaign. This campaign has been conducted over many generations since that time, with the hope that our elders buy into it in their youth and teach it to us as we grow up, with the hope that this self-perpetuating brainwashing sustains itself and requires little maintenance, with the hope that the public school system can be exploited to reinforce the propaganda (any public school which refuses as a matter of principle simply is cut off from funding, or even shut down, putting the school's employees out of work and out of retirement pensions), and with the hope that the extensive purchase of mass media sources and facilities and their use in augmenting the propaganda is sufficient to counter the information revolution ushered in by the internet. The propaganda is aimed at keeping us focused on, thinking in terms of, and perceiving our experiences and interactions with the de facto government, as benign, cumbersome at times, but necessary. The propaganda system never admits or allows information which accurately portrays the de facto government- when has a public school teacher ever taught his/her students that THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is a corporation, a corporation which is acting as our government until the day that we decide to dismiss the corporation and resume de jure governance of ourselves? When has any of the de facto goverment ever informed any of us that it is a foreign nationality, operating on our nation's soil, and we have the right to shut it down and deport its employees at any time? When has any of the de facto government ever informed any of us that it conducts itself under maritime law, ON LAND, illegally, by virtue of having declared that everything physically above land is water (in direct contradiction of reality and truth), and thus falls under maritime law? When has any of the de facto government ever presented full documentation to any of us regarding its creation, licensing, mission, and policies for both acting as government and relinquishing governance to us at our demand?

The more of us who learn this information and explore it further, the more of us who decide to help flesh out the details, and the more of us who decide to put the information to use to dismiss the de facto goverment's leadership and minions and repopulate the elected offices with people not beholden to the BAR and other foreign nationals, the sooner we can reassert de jure governance, government of, by and for the men and women who wish to live free on these lands, free from debtor slavery, free from unlawfull control, free to breathe clean air, free to grow and eat clean and natural foods, free to gather and drink clean water, free from living in a police state, free from all the corruption and crime in our government, free of all the wrongs done in our name on lands afar, free to raise ourselves up and raise up those around us, if they want, to make a better world.

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Posted by Freewill at 10:09 PM

The de facto government got minions? How cute.
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Deep Knight wrote:The de facto government got minions? How cute.
But are they properly pedigreed???
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Re: "Freewill" KIDNAPPED AND HELD FOR RANSOM!

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Reading between the lines, here is my take:

(1) Freewill got caught up in some sort of traffic violation, which could have included driving under the influence.

(2) He resisted the authority of law enforcement to either question him, to provide proof of registration and/or driver's license, and arrest - or some combination of these factors. He most likely relied on the nonsense proposition that the state has no power or authority to require him to register a car or have a license to drive on the road.

(3) Freewill then tried to contest the authority of the court to detain him and hold him over for trial using the typical sovrun/freemen gibberish about not being under the contract with the state

The fact that this nonsense about "no victims filing a claim" being raised here as an explanation as to why the charges filed against him are false leads me to think that DUI is a possibility; I have seen that raised before when sovruns got arrested for DUI and tried to weasel out. "No one got hurt so there was no crime." Of course, he could have gotten hauled in on a warrant for failing to appear for other traffic violations, which might explain why the bail was only $5000.
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Re: "Freewill" KIDNAPPED AND HELD FOR RANSOM!

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I like that they name everyone involved with the case, the judge, prosecutor, etc. but refuse to give Freewill's name and what he's been charged with.

I suppose in theory with the names of the people involved someone could figure out who Freewill is and what he's been charged with. It's unlikely the judge is dealing with two sovcits at the same time.
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Re: "Freewill" KIDNAPPED AND HELD FOR RANSOM!

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some idiot wrote:Before anyone ever inquires into the details of a charge, first, evaluate whether a crime has been committed, period, to know whether the charge is falsified or even fraudulent. This goes for anyone, anywhere; and in the de facto government's false courts which ignore the Constitution and which uphold color of law in place of natural and common laws, it's of paramount importance.
I question the author's 'thought' process.

I haven't been surety for anyone before so I don't know, but if someone wanted to post bail for 'freewill', wouldn't they have to know the charges? Obviously, they would have to have the name that 'freewill' is charged under. And none of that would depend on the validity of the charges or what the person wants to call himself.
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Re: "Freewill" KIDNAPPED AND HELD FOR RANSOM!

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rogfulton wrote:I question the author's 'thought' process.
Question? How about just plain deride it? This person is being evasive on the identity of the charges against Freewill to the point of making themselves look like idiots when it comes to judicial process. The government has always had the power to arrest and press charges without having to get a court to approve such a process ahead of time. A writ of habeas corpus is how to contest any such arrest and to ensure that the defendant gets their day in court.

This is just FreeDom using bad sophistry in trying to avoid revealing that Freewill is fighting a stupid battle that 99.44% of the people would not start on their own.
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Re: "Freewill" KIDNAPPED AND HELD FOR RANSOM!

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Is there anyway to use the information we have, i.e. when Freewill was arrested, who the judge is, who the prosecutor is, what state and court he's being tried in to track down who he is or what the charges are?