NESARA Again!

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NESARA Again!

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We've been short on NESARA for some time, mostly because the people promiting this either died, moved on, or lost their audience. But what's old is new again with Steve Beckow. MacHaffie, who's been on a "What's for Dinar" kick even though is Blog is labeld "RAP NESARA," posted this today.

Monday, August 8, 2011
NESARA - Fantastic Info Source - MUST READ
http://stevebeckow.com/nesara-or-the-abundance-program/
Posted by John MacHaffie at 4:31 AM
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Well, it's not new (from 2010) but it's at least a good review on how crazy a conspiracy theory can get. For example, from the "Abundance Program" part:

The galactics cannot be exact about timing: “On a week-to-week basis so much could happen, and it is why we are unable to be more precise about the coming months.”

However, SaLuSa can say that we should see first results before the end of this year: “This year [2010] will be the beginning of many dramatic events, and you will see the plan for abundance and other benefits promised to you taking shape. … If we were to anticipate where you might be by the end of this year, we would expect to have seen governmental changes and the first signs of the abundance program taking place.”

And there were changes, they went from the 2010 budget to the 2011 budget! Amazing! And where will this money come from? Rayelan of RumorMillNews knows...

My source told me that he had been working to track down money stolen from the United States.
He has also been tracking down money that is being hidden around the world to keep from paying taxes on it.
Most of the money was hidden by greedy corporations and the men and women who own and run them.
He also has found the money that was stolen by politicians… some Republican and some Democrat. These accounts have been seized. And in some cases ALL of their assets have been frozen and/or seized. They are crooks… they deserve to be in jail… taking their money is not good enough… but he says that there’s nothing else he has power to do. He can’t order them to go to prison.
He has been telling me about putting back our stolen money for months now. I finally asked how much was there. He said “Hundreds of trillions.”
I asked what Obama planned to do with it. He said he had no idea.
I got angry at this point.
I know that whenever I talk to this man that Norad listens in… The White House listens in… the FBI, CIA, Interpol and god knows who else listens in.
When he said that there are hundreds of trillions of dollars in our treasury and he has no idea what they are planning on doing with it… I blew up.
I went on a rant that could have been heard all the way to the White House even without their eavesdropping equipment.
I said that people in this country are hurting. People are homeless, out of work, broke, losing their jobs, their businesses, their homes, their families and some are even losing their lives.
If there are hundreds of trillions of dollars in our treasury… our government could give everyone enough money to pay off their debts, start new businesses, buy houses outright… go on vacations… buy new cars, buy new furniture, get their teeth fixed, their eyes examined and have surgeries done that insurance won’t pay for.
If there is that kind of money in our treasury, then our government should treat it like Alaska treats their oil money… DIVIDE IT AMONG ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS.

Anyway, if you've never had the experience and want to drag youself this, knock yourself out!
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I'm not surprised that this is back again. The Iraqi dinar RV scam is losing steam; and there are probably a bunch of financial rubes out there who don't remember the last time the NESARA scam was active.
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John MacHaffie has linked to Steve Beckow’s copy of Nancy B. Detweiler’s new “History of NESARA.” It’s fairly long so I won’t post it here, but the link is below. Knock yourself out.

http://stevebeckow.com/2011/08/nancy-b- ... of-nesara/

Nancy sez:


In my 7+ years of research, I have found nothing to disprove the existence of the NESARA LAW. The internet is loaded with disinformation that can be easily dismissed by research.

MacHaffie’s RAP-NESARA forum has one comment.

“Anonymous said...
Best documented piece of history ever recorded in the 21st century for United States. This story must be told and enter into history books so the masses understand the lives lost are not in vain as the founders of the Declaration of Independence. These men gave their all steering our country back to its foundings.”

I have another opinion. Some notes:

1892 – “Banker’s Manifesto.” A lot of red flags should be raised for this often-quoted-on-conspiracy-sites forgery. Why would those naughty international bankers put such things down in writing, much less publish them? And why does the supposed source and date keep changing? People who have gone looking for this have never found it, only references to it that don’t pan out. Seems like pretty good evidence it’s not real to me.

1907-1917 – “Banker’s Manifesto revealed by Sen. Lindbergh.” Come on, Senate records from that time are well documented in the Federal Register. He put this into the record but they can’t document this any closer than an 11 year span?

1978 – “Roy Schwasinger, Jr., who was a retired military general.” Roy was a meat packer from Nebraska who spent his retirement years in jail for various frauds. He sometimes claimed to be some sort of unorganized militia general, but he made other claims such as having a gold molecule that could levitate steel beams too.

1982 – “Roy Schwasinger was given a contract by the US senate and later Supreme Court to investigate banking fraud. “A double secret contract, not written down anywhere from organizations he later claimed were under the control of the New World Order. Uh huh.

1990s – “…ruled that indeed the banks had defrauded the Baskervilles and proceeded to reverse its bankruptcy decision.” No they didn’t, everything was denied and the final “Order and Judgement” to their appeal, No. 93-1450, was released June 1, 1994. It includes this telling paragraph:
“On appeal, plaintiffs have submitted a rambling and almost unreadable brief which raises no issues. We are not obliged to manufacture a party's argument on appeal when the party fails to carry its burden of drawing our attention to errors below. SEC v. Thomas, 965 F.2d 825, 826 (10th Cir.1992). After reviewing the record, we see no error and affirm for the reasons set forth in the district court's orders.”

1988 – “That the income tax amendment was only ratified by four states and therefore was not a legal amendment.” Not what the link below this says (they say only 20 “legally” ratified it, 16 too few) and even then they use strange legal arguments which wouldn’t hold up in any court (such as states weren’t really states or that they didn’t read it aloud enough time to let people consider it well enough).

1994 – “But the Clinton government undermined their efforts by requiring the farm claims to use a specific form designed by the government. This form imposed an administrative fee of $300 for each claim, which was later used in 1994 as a basis to arrest the leaders of the legal team including Roy Schwasinger.” Funny, but those “the government made me do it” $300 “fees” went into Roy Schwasinger’s bank account.

1993 – “Janet Reno ordered the Delta Force and Navy Seals to Switzerland, England, and Israel to recapture trillions of dollars of gold stolen by the Federal Reserve System from the strategic gold reserves. … Janet Reno’s action so enraged the powers-that-be, that it resulted in her death. She was then replaced with a clone and it was this creature that was responsible for covering-up the various Clinton scandals.” If you can’t see through this nonsense, you would probably believe the “the dog ate my homework” excuse. And one more thing, why was this placed after the 1994 entry?

October 10, 2000 – “Because President Clinton’s clone had no interest in signing NESARA into law on October 10, 2000; under orders from U.S. military generals, the elite Naval Seals and Delta Force stormed the White House and under gunpoint forced Bill Clinton to sign NESARA. During this time Secret Service and White House security personnel were ordered to stand down, disarmed, and allowed to witness this event under a gag order.” It’s hard to get clones interested in anything outside of doing evil. However, it’s apparently not coercion to force one to sign laws at gunpoint, like it would be for normal humans.
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Deep Knight,

Although the "Bankers Manifesto" is attributed to bankers, its own references to a convention in Omaha in 1892 show that it is internal propaganda of the Populist Party, a quasi-socialist group, whose convention was in that city that year.

If Lindbergh "revealed" it - some 40 years later - it would be in the Congressional Record, not the Federal Register. Nobody has pointed to a Congressional Record cite, much less identifying the supposed "bankers" who allegedly authored it.
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fortinbras wrote:Deep Knight,

...If Lindbergh "revealed" it - some 40 years later - it would be in the Congressional Record, not the Federal Register. Nobody has pointed to a Congressional Record cite, much less identifying the supposed "bankers" who allegedly authored it.
Correct, my inadvertent mistake, I meant exactly that publication which quotes exactly what was said or "entered into the record." in the Senate and House. If it was real they would have a citation.
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