Bring Your Toothbrush

[Deep Knight]

I have taken over 200 photos. However the terminals on the ship don't have a USB port so I will ask the adviser assigned to me my best option for uploading some of these photos the next time I see her

Here again, I am struck with awe regarding the celestials' ineptness with technology. Not one single USB port on a starship?

Actually, they wouldn't have compatible connections of any kind on a Starship unless they decided to use Earth-Shan standards, which considering our primative technology wouldn't make much sense. Then again, they all seem to speak English, so you never know.

A more complete list of comments for the "First Ever Post From The MotherShip Neptune!!!" post.

Anonymous Feb 5, 2012 09:36 PM
Here we go again just another person getting off on posting another part of their fantasy saga. Hope I'm wrong and disclosure is actually close but I kind of doubt the powers to be will allow it to happen.

Anonymous Feb 5, 2012 09:39 PM
A Galactic starship and no USB port. Give me a break.

Anonymous Feb 6, 2012 07:57 AM
Funny answer Amazing lack of common sense hei ? Please set a date so that we'll know when the bullshit will stop. There is noone coming to save us, we made the world into what it is today, we'll have to sort out the mess by ourselves. Join the solution that will change reality into Heaven on Earth for everyone so noone will have to go on blissful mindfucks no more as a result to wishing to not be here. Here we are Equal Money. Eleonora

Anonymous Feb 5, 2012 10:34 PM
This smells like disinformation - that's what my gut tells me. I wonder how others feel about this message?

Next thing you know the photos are going to be missing or blurry, show me some proof.

Anonymous Feb 6, 2012 05:54 AM
Your gut feeling is the one to go by, that's where I AM is talking to you.
http://alamongordo.com/prophecies-predictions/144000/
The church of the Subgenius believes that somewhere between 144
and 144000 people will be taken with the Xists aboard the pleasure
saucers.

uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius
The Church of the SubGenius is a secret, hidden cabal
masquerading as a joke, whic.

rationalwiki.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius
The Church of the SubGenius is a religion described by some of
its own members as an "insane bogus UFO mind-control cult".

Anonymous Feb 6, 2012 12:15 AM
"We were told that Mr Beckow and others were put under surveillance after all this becoming so public against the wishes of those on the Neptune."
" At this time it is better for him to believe this was a failure and he is leaving public life."
I can't believe that Steve Beckow was acting outside of the GFLs direction. If a disclosure activist DOESN'T make himself heard to everybody possible, then he's not trying. Beckow had balls of steel to make this known when believers have been burnt before.

Anonymous Feb 6, 2012 12:39 AM
and where are the photos? what's the point of this text if there is no evidence..

Justicar Feb 6, 2012 04:31 AM
I can only Hope your words are so. I have always been certain Man has always been his own greatest hinderance. I believe from an Atlantean point of view that these words bear truth.

Anonymous Feb 6, 2012 05:46 AM
There are No photo's, there are No ships, they are just a bunch of Unregistered Foriegn Agents running there diareaha mouths to try and save the Federal corporation owned by the Crown Temple known as the United States, WHEN ARE YOU PEOPLE GONNA WAKE UP !!! Allways waiting for something instead of doing something, your nothing but a bunch of cowards!!

Anonymous Feb 6, 2012 09:14 AM
just wanna commend you on your comment finally someone with a brain...

Anonymous Feb 6, 2012 06:06 AM
You'll never hear from this guy again. He and the others transported to the starship will wind up as a new cuisine on the menu.

Anonymous Feb 6, 2012 06:58 AM
You can see how the people have been brainwashed to believe that the PTB are so powerful that they can't be taken down. You need to believe they can and will be and soon.
Thinking there would be a USB port would be like thinking they would have an eight track port. They may have a port but why would we think it should be like ours?
To say this is disinformation before giving time for the photos to come forth would be an uninformed guess at best.
Some people have no faith. If I told you I went on vacation to an island and was telling you about all the things that I saw and did, would you say I don't believe you unless I can see the photos? Photos can come later.
We all need to wake-up and open our minds as there are many new things comming down the pike and I can feel that it is almost upon us. Ken

Anonymous Feb 6, 2012 07:24 AM
I am impatiently waiting for the photoes.

Anonymous Feb 6, 2012 08:00 AM
Atlanteans The Beginning - Part 1 - download it for free and get to know the Real Story

Anonymous Feb 6, 2012 08:32 AM
Hilarious!!! I needed a good laugh this morning.

Anonymous Feb 6, 2012 10:02 AM
To Anon Feb 6,2012 06:58 AM: Man, you've really been drinking the Kool-aid! Why don't you go outside and howl at the moon tonight. Maybe the ET's will hear you and beam you up. Make sure you take a laptop and USB port with you so we can get those pictures.

Helder Alves Feb 6, 2012 10:09 AM
Poeple use your minds, this joyride with so called John Lear can not be true because Grener told Steve Beckow that in the near future there will be trips to the Neptune. And this guy who claims to be John Lear is supposed to be allready there. Grener said "In the near future" not "We have allready 25 people here so sorry Steve."

And use your psychology, This guy sleeper told once in a forum that he was on a trip with Aliens and John Lear told in the Forum that he believed this sleeper. And now this hoaxer is using John Lears name and Sleeper as pseudonim for his hoax. Sounds to muh coincidence that both sleeper and John are now on the same trip. BULSHIT with capital letters.

Anonymous Feb 6, 2012 10:54 AM
When will this be cancelled?

Tom Feb 6, 2012 11:02 AM
Fake!
Why the intergalatics don't use a phone for a comuniocation, or internet? They have or not high technology... I think there are too much to prove!

Helder Alves Feb 6, 2012 11:07 AM
And another give away; They were not going to planet Neptune, but to the spaceship Neptune.
And one could argue he means that they are actually on the planet Neptune. But according to Grener Life on Neptune was a long long time ago.
Or they are already timetraveling, but neeeah doesn't ring true. Helder out...

Anonymous Feb 6, 2012 12:02 PM
Hi John
Never in My entire life have I heard and seen such total arrogance ,scepticism, and fear of what can be only described as ignorance. IF the above comments are any indication of the intelegence and open minded-ness ,GOD help us . Does anyone think that WE are the only intelegent beings in this universe??? I for one can't wait till we have proof AND contact with ET/ED's at least then we will have gotten rid of this narrow minded crap that is posted above

John MacHaffie Feb 6, 2012 12:21 PM
Anon 12:02 PM ---- You should see the comments and attacks which I discarded. IQ of -1000 per each one.

The blog was set up to enhance our awareness.

[The Observer]

Actually, they wouldn't have compatible connections of any kind on a Starship unless they decided to use Earth-Shan standards, which considering our primative technology wouldn't make much sense.

Of course, it would make sense if you were inviting people with primitive technology to board your ship. My word, even the evil Bill Gates of Microsoft understood the concept of making Windows backwards-compatible so that the neanderthal systems out there could still use it to some degree. I can only conclude that the galactics either have no concept of being able to look beyond their own level of understanding or that they simply cannot figure out how to install a USB adapator somewhere on the ship. If they have the technology of the purple flame, then they can retro-fit a cable to take a USB input.

[Deep Knight]

Actually, they wouldn't have compatible connections of any kind on a Starship unless they decided to use Earth-Shan standards, which considering our primative technology wouldn't make much sense.

Of course, it would make sense if you were inviting people with primitive technology to board your ship. My word, even the evil Bill Gates of Microsoft understood the concept of making Windows backwards-compatible so that the neanderthal systems out there could still use it to some degree. I can only conclude that the galactics either have no concept of being able to look beyond their own level of understanding or that they simply cannot figure out how to install a USB adapator somewhere on the ship. If they have the technology of the purple flame, then they can retro-fit a cable to take a USB input.

Yes, they could easily use a replicator device to make a translation cable, but the fact they didn't tell John this must mean the replicators are on the fritz. Word to the wise, if you go onboard, be careful ordering "Earl Grey, hot."

[ArthurWankspittle]

Today's prediction: the pictures will be lost/damaged/destroyed during transportation back to earth.

[Deep Knight]

Summary and Link to An Hour with an Angel with Grener, Feb. 6, 2012
2012 February 6
Posted by Graham

Linda Dillon channels Grener and Jesus with questions from Steve Beckow.

The program aired Monday, 6:00 p.m. Pacific time, 9:00 p.m. Eastern time. The URL for the audiofile is: Not Included Here

Linda shares comments regarding the experience around the Neptune trip and speaks to the growth and clearing among thousands of people. She reminds us that this is a journey of love and to let the love and support from the universe come into our hearts and anchor us.

Jesus/Sananda encourages us to stay in our hearts, hold peace in our hearts, and to join together in love.

Grener speaks to the Neptune trip, the transformation has taken place in the Lightworker community. Even though the trip was altered, our partnership with the Galactics hasn’t changed. He shares our desire for Disclosure and that this has been a grass roots effort to move it along.

The postponement was a joint decision. There were hundreds of earth humans volunteering and the Galactics had concern around the fear, trepidation and panic that those who would be left behind were feeling. The Galactics come in love and seek to anchor peace on Earth, so it was important to avoid this difficulty. Grener indicated that there were also decisive actions being taken among dark forces to interfere with the trip, which was another reason for changing plans.

The accounts from people purporting to be on the Neptune, including John Lear, are accurate and will be proven credible. Billie Woodard’s statement that he has seen the Neptune is accurate. More people will come to the ship and will know when the time is right. There will be groups of 4-6 people and the stay will be anywhere from a few hours, an overnight, or a day or two. Some will stay longer.

Grener indicates that the Galactics are chiefly interested in the growth of the human spirit, both individually and collectively. They are here to help with Ascension and are observing to see how we manage the shift to the higher realms. They can protect people and do a great deal behind the scenes. There are many beings on Earth that are part of the Galactic family.

There are millions of ships over Earth that work as a unified force, waiting and observing. Grener speaks of coordinated efforts with Salusa, Hatonn and others, and that fleets are organized by mission and purpose. He indicates that our Internet is influenced by a more advanced communication they use.

Grener speaks of his role as the President of the Intergalactic Council, the origin of the ship’s name and where he is from. He reveals that the Greek language is an intergalactic language; hence its appearance in things like the ship’s name.

Linda finished the show with a meditation.

So it was canceled, but then again it wasn't because John Lear is there. All the earmarks of "making it up as you go along."

[Deep Knight]

More confirmation!

Transcript of Billie Woodard’s Viewing of the Neptune
2012 February 6
Posted by Vina

Revised

Grener said in An Hour with an Angel, Feb. 6, 2012, that Billie Woodard did view the Neptune while traveling outside his body. Reader Shaunie describes the process he follows this way:

“The process that enabled Billie to have a glimpse of the Neptune, Grener and Archangel Michael works thus. When Billie does his Saturday conference calls he speaks briefly to the public and then leaves his body to allows his father Zorra to come into Billie’s body and speak to people while Billie leaves to enter Zorra’s body.”

Thanks to Ruth for the speedy transcription.

Billie: Hello?

Interviewer: Go ahead… Billy, you’re back? You have the floor…

B: Yeah, I’m back. I’m back.

I: OK?

B: OK. Um, well, what can I add to this?

I: You know, Ann, if we can, it’s always interesting to know… uh… where Billy has been while he’s has been in [his father's] body. This might be very interesting for you. So, let us ask Billy where’s he’s been.

I: Yeah… Where have you been, Billy?

B: Where have I been? Oh, that is interesting. Well, actually, I was on my father’s ship and my father’s ship was stationed right next to the Neptune.

(surprised laughter)

I: Wow, that’s a mind-blower!

B: Uh, yeah, that’s kind of a mind-blower! (more laughter) I’ve seen the ship, it’s real…

I: Wow!

B: … but it’s definitely there. And from what I understand, as far as the people going that are signed up for this thing, uh, between now and sometime next week, there’s going to be several people that are going on that thing.

I: …yes, quite a number of people.

B: quite a number.

I: So, excuse me, Ann… that is actual? It is a ship?

B: It is a ship. It is a ship. It’s a big one, too.

I: Fantastic. Is it as big as Elenin?

B: It’s bigger than my father’s ship.

I: Wow. Wow. Billy, thank you so much… There’s a hand open, but we are really past our time, unless you do want to. I don’t know who it is, but we don’t want this to continue to stretch this on…

B: Go ahead and take it.

I: There are two hands actually. Do you want to do them?

B: Go ahead and take ‘em. Last two, and that’s it.

I: OK, these two. The first one is area code (deleted) ending in (numbers deleted). I think we’ve had you, before.

Caller: Hey Billy, this is Henry. I’ve heard you talking about going on a ship, and I’m interested, I’m curious what this is all about.

B: Uh, wait a minute; I’m not going on a ship. No. I said there is a ship, and it’s called the Neptune, and I was on my father’s ship and it was docked alongside of the Neptune. The one that Steve Beckow was talking about and also that Linda Dillon was also channeling… uh Grener… In my father’s body I saw Grener; he’s a very wonderful, beautiful being…

I: Hmmmn. Hmmn!

B: And I also saw Archangel Michael.

I: Oh, wow…

B: So there is definitely uh something going on there.

I: Well, can I ask, Billy… did they (unclear) talk with you?

B: Uh, I didn’t talk that much with them; because he was just, they were in conversation with the crew of the, of my father’s ship, because they knew I was there and my father was there and so there wasn’t going to be communication between me and them. But, um… I was able to see them. And they’re definitely for real.

I: Thank you, Billy,

Henry: (unclear)

B: What’s that?

Henry: Can I volunteer for that flight?

I: Henry, you and…

B: Henry, you can go onto the Council of Love site and get your name put on a list if you want; that’s as far as I can tell you. I don’t much about, as far as the list about it, but I do know there are definitely going to be some trips taken.

[Steve: The List on the Council of Love site and generated by the 2012 Scenario may or may not be used by Grener to plan his trips. I'm not aware that the Council of Love are still adding names and certainly the 2012 Scenario is not.]

I: Hmmn.

I: OK, I’m going to, so that we don’t have a long call — and Henry, if you need that kind of information, you can get with me after the call, OK?

H: Thank you, thank you…

I: OK. And then the other person, the other person who had her hand up was Rita in Salt Lake City… Go ahead, Rita. Your line is open.

Caller Rita: Hi…. Zorra and Ann and Billy. I am one on the list to go with this group; and, uh, we got a notice today that it was held back a little bit because of, uh, chaos going on. And that we should put out faith and not doubt, ’cause that hurts it. And so we will be going in small groups now; we won’t have that large group, and I, that’s how they’ve changed it. So, I just wanted to put that in there for ya’.. And I love …

(more than one voice, unclear)

B: Well, wonderful.

Rita: Yeah… I was very lucky.

I: OK, that’s great. There is one more, and I hate to leave someone out but this is…. (END)

[Deep Knight]

Transcript of Grener on An Hour with an Angel, Feb. 7, 2012
2012 February 7
Posted by Steve Beckow

An Hour with an Angel spent an hour with Grener, hearing more about what led to the decision to postpone having 300+ people abord the Neptune, the factthat the first smaller group of people are already on board, including John Lear whose account of his visit has already been circulated on the Internet and whose photos are expected to be released.

The program aired Monday, 6:00 p.m. Pacific time, 9:00 p.m.

Both Grener and I made an error in calling the word “Neptune” Greek in derivation rather than Latin. I’d imagine that the Latin language as well as the Greek is galactic in origin but I will ask him about it the next time we speak, perhaps in a month’s time when I return.

There will be those who put credence in Grener’s explanation of why the trip was postponed or cancelled, depending on how you see it, and those who don’t, depending on whether you put credence in any or all of what is occurring and other factors.

Grener tells as much as it’s prudent to say. You’ll notice at one point we have a tug of war – his interest being in what he jokingly termed “stonewalling” and mine in getting information, though not wishing to place anyone in jeopardy thereby.

Many galactics have a wonderful sense of humor and Grener is no exception, but humor is often what critics latch onto, as the “limousine” comment demonstrated and Grener noted. Nevertheless I enjoyed the informality and back and forth that Grener engaged in and his easy manner.

Thanks to Ellen for pointing the “Greek” error out and for a quick turnaround on the transcript.
An Hour with an Angel, February 6, 2012:

Steve Beckow, Linda Dillon and Grener

Graham Dewyea: Hello and welcome to An Hour with an Angel, a weekly radio program with Linda Dillon, the channel for the Council of Love, and Steve Beckow, editor of the 2012 Scenario who will be asking questions. Tonight’s special guest, Grener, the President of the Intergalactic Council, will be joining us again. So with that, I’ll pass it on to you, Steve.

Steve Beckow: Thank you, Graham. And I think before we begin with Grener, I think, Linda, perhaps you have some comments on the events of last week that you’d like to share with our listeners?

Linda Dillon: Good evening, everybody. Well, not so much comments as observations, as the channel for Council of Love. As you know, I get to hear, listen, and see probably from a very different perspective than a lot of people.

But one of the things that I’ve been seeing, amidst all the hubbub and excitement and emotional turmoil and upset about this joy-ride to the Neptune is that what I’ve also seen and what I’ve also been hearing —‌ from the Council, from Jesus Sananda, from Mary, from the archangels —‌ is how incredible the growth and the clearing is that’s taken place among thousands and thousands and thousands of people.

When we did our conference call on Saturday there were just shy of 800 people on. And all those people we could tell were all in various states, in terms of their own spiritual journey, in terms of their own Ascension work, because that’s really what we’re here, to do our service, our love and our Ascension work. So everybody seemed to be in a different place.

But one of the things that I’m overwhelmed and pleased about is to see how people are really grabbing this opportunity, this catalyst, to take it and apply it to their spiritual journey. And, you know, we’ve had all kinds of responses, as you know, Steve, and my staff tells me that the feedback on the 2012 site was about twelve to one positive in terms of that experience and lots of very positive kudos and feed back to you.

But more importantly than that, I want people to just—‌before we get started tonight —‌ take a minute, not now, but in the next few days, in the next few hours, the next few weeks, to really go inside your heart and feel where you’re at. I’ve had people say, “You know, it was the best experience that my wife and I ever went through. We packed our bags, we sat on the couch and we meditated and we got ready, and nothing happened—‌and it was the best thing we’ve ever done.” And other people have said, “You know, I’m so depressed and angry I can’t get out of bed.”

Well, we’re all in different places. But if you just look at the experience that you’re going through right now, and this catalyst of, you know, did you get to go or didn’t you get to go, and why did you want to go? Is it going to give you information about how to go forward in this journey of love, because that’s what this journey is about. It’s not about falling into the old Earth paradigms of guilt, limitation and blame, fault and lack—‌because that’s old stuff.

That’s where we don’t want to go. We want to just look at it, let it go, and keep going. And let the love, let all the support from the entire universe —‌ I mean we’re surrounded in it —‌ let that love and support come into you, come into your heart, and anchor you, not just in your daily meditation, but in every waking moment moment and everything you do. Let it in.

So, I wanted to say bravo to everybody who’s declared themselves and said, “We’re ready,” you know, Let’s go. We’ve all had a variety and a whole range of emotions about this, but that’s all it is. It’s just information and emotions about where we are. So with that, I’ll hand it back to you, Steve.

SB: Thanks, Linda. And we’re going to speak to Grener tonight, I think?

LD: Well, we’re going to see. I’ll get out of his way.

Jesus

Jesus: Greetings, I am Jesus Sananda. And yes, you will get to speak to Grener, but first I wish to come forward, and also say good evening, to you, Steve, and to everybody who is listening now and later. For you know my connection with the Galactics and Intergalactics and the entire Omniverse.

So I wish once again to speak to you, my brothers and sisters, about love, about holding peace in your heart, about going forward on your journey. And yes, of course, it includes your brothers and sisters of the stars and far beyond. It also includes your brothers and sisters of Earth, of Gaia, who accompany you and who have volunteered in this journey of transformation, of upliftment, of accompanying her in her Ascension and in yours.

I wish to remind you of my purpose not only when I walked upon the planet a long time ago, but as I accompany you right now, today and everyday, in this journey of unfoldment, the unfoldment of the Divine Plan and the unfoldment of your plan.

Stay in your hearts, my beloved ones. No, that is not a cop-out; that is not avoiding anything. It is where you are finding the truth, not only of your own sweet self, of your journey, of your essence, but also of the Divine. So that is where we meet you, that is where we join together. It is in the love.

So yes, I step aside, for there are several who wish to speak tonight. But I will pass you over, but I will also remain, because I wish this transmission tonight to include my vibration of love. Farewell.

SB: Thank you for coming tonight, Lord.

Grener

Grener: I am Grener of Ashira, of Neptune, President of the Intergalactic Council.

SB: Thank you, Grener.

G: Welcome, my friends, my brothers and sisters and allies. Welcome to this time that we have once again together for you to begin to assume your position with us, as representatives of Earth, and we, as representatives of the stars, upon your Earth. Yes, we know you have many questions that you wish to pose tonight.

But let us begin by telling you that the transformation of the energy between dimensions, realities, levels, hearts, beings, community has begun, and it most certainly has begun and flourished and grown in this light-holder, light-worker community. So although the grander mission has been changed, shifted, for our own reasons and our own commitments, it does not mean that this partnership is in any way altered. It is not.

There are so many of you who, we understand, hunger for the experience, for proof, for demonstration, for contact. And so do we. And that was part of our agreement, you know, and part of our eagerness to invite you—‌not as our guests, yes, as our delegation; but let us be even more clear—‌as family.

We weren’t inviting you to some formal ball or affair. We were inviting you to come, have a look-see, sit around the table, chat and share, and be as family. Our desire for that has never changed, and we have held it for thousands and thousands of years. So we, dear friends, are not about to give up.

Now, we have tried, as you all have great knowledge of, to reach many of you, and many of those in power or positions of influence, to agree to acknowledge our presence. And so, yes, this has been the grassroots Occupy Neptune movement and it does not stop.

So, Steve, where do you wish to begin?

SB: Well, Grener, I intend for this program to be part of a process of the completion process for people around last week’s events. I think there are some questions that they’d like me to ask. And one of them would be: could you tell us—‌as much as you can—‌about the behind-the-scenes discussions that resulted in the postponement of the trip, the genesis of the decision and who ultimately made the decision. I think that might help people to understand what occurred.

G: Some of you know, and some of you do not, that I have been previously a Starfleet commander, before I accepted this position, this wonderful honorary position as president of the Intergalactic Council. This decision was a joint decision. It was not solely mine, although I must say I carry a great deal of influence.

But it was a joint decision between the fleet commander and the Intergalactic Council, which is what you would think like the UN Security Council. It was not a vote of all members, because not all members are always fully present or available or wish to have a voice in such things. But it was a group decision.

The genesis of it was…well, there were several things, and we will be as frank as we can. Now, one was that we saw that many of the hundreds and hundreds —‌ which pleased us to no end, make no mistake about it! —‌ but there was also a degree of confusion, chaos….

Not amongst all of you, and we do not say this in a negative way. We have said to you before, we can help, we can assist in this clearing. But we never wished for this to be a three-ring circus. We never wished for this to become the situation where people did not receive the individual attention and connection that has been so desired on your side and ours.

But also what became apparent—‌because we have, can we say, greater insight into details of not only individuals’ lives who invite us to have a peek, but also to the greater picture—‌[was] that there were two situations that were occurring that were against what we have stood for. And that was the drama and the pain, the panic that would result in some families when they realized that their beloved partner, spouse, parent, friend, had simply disappeared, because not all beings were being completely forthright about what was transpiring.

Now we understand that, because you would be considered “certifiable,” in your terms, if you were to say, well, I’m going for a ride on a spaceship. Some people would not understand. And even if you were completely honest, they would be very fearful, more fearful of the honesty than some made-up story.

But it was putting those who were left behind in a position of fear, trepidation, and panic. And this is one of the primary ruling principles that we have always adhered to, is that we will not create panic or fear among the collective. And that is one of the reasons we’ve not had many of the mass landings.

The message always has to be very clear. We come in love. We are anxious to help with the calming of those old realities of your third dimension. We come to assist. And if we proceeded to create mayhem in communities, that would not be seen as favorable. It would not be creating the scenario that we had hoped to create. And we were not aware of the—‌first of all, we did not expect so many, and that pleased us no end. It still does. And all are welcome. This is not exclusive. Let us be very, very clear about that.

Additionally, we do not ever wish to go into fear-mongering, for that is not the way that we operate, but many were also being observed and there was interference on some levels there as well. And we would not wish that to occur, or anything to interfere with the growth and the building of this light-worker community.

Now, what amazed us was the connection that occurred among yourselves. What we had hoped for was, yes, connection more clearly with us, and us with you. But the silver lining, and the part of the bigger plan, has been the connection amongst yourselves—‌the support, the excitement the belief, and the temerity, the determination. So that is how the decision was arrived at, those three factors.

SB: Thank you, Grener. You’ve touched on the activities of certain dark individuals and possibly agencies. There were reports of computers being hacked, surveillance vans sitting outside peoples’ homes and people getting sick while these vans were there, helicopters following people. Are the people who reported this imagining things or are these reflections of genuine actions taken by the dark?

G: Well, there are some imaginations running wild, and that is based on past life or past experience in this life, but there were also some very decisive actions being taken.

SB: All right. Who exactly are the—‌we keep talking about the dark forces that are ….

G: Yes, and we do not like to talk in those terms, because what it does is it creates the shadow, and our purpose really is to bring light. Light is another word for love, for peace, for unity. So, yes, when we talk about this we don’t want to term it so much as “dark.”

Yes, it is mostly those in positions of authority, what you would call probably agencies, but we also want you to understand, from their perspective, they’re doing their job. They’re trying to protect these silly humans who actually believe that they can create a grassroots movement to open up what has been kept in the dark for so long, in the shadows.

So do not give them power that they do not deserve. Send them light. Send them understanding. Feel that you are embracing them and bringing them into your community. Because once you shine your collective light upon them, my dear friend, they don’t stand a chance. So this is also another one of those golden linings or silver linings that you talk about. It is a chance to see who’s up to what. But also do not believe that you are in some movie or some abduction scenarios. You are not.

We initially thought that you understood the analogy of black limousines rather than space bicycles, but obviously some did not. And that is why we encouraged you to simply see, “Now, where was I when I was really thinking about that? Was I in my heart and ready to go, or was I inviting in fear?”

Look at the fear. Look at that what you call dark forces, and look at it very clearly. look it in the eye, because as soon as you do it dissipates power. We have learned this, and we have learned this over thousands of years. And in the beginning we could barely tolerate each other. And there were many stoic silences. But toleration grew into admiration, cooperation and love. And that is what you all are doing.

SB: Can we just spend a moment on the “black limousine matter,” Grener, if you don’t mind? The commander that I called Commander X, his channel wrote me and said that I needed to actually name him, and if I didn’t I was in violation of copyright law. It was a rather a hard matter to understand. And they were going to sue me because I actually didn’t use his name on the air. Do you know the being that I’m referring to? Are you aware of the commander of the Altair Fleet? No?

G: This is not particularly the kind of action or information that would want you to act upon. We are aware of everybody that is in the fleets. And sometimes there are those who tend to get a little over-zealous. You have the same problem sometimes on Earth, do you not?

SB: Well, I suppose. But usually people—

G: But that was not…that was a threat. That was a threat.

SB: Yes.

G: That did not come from a source of love or higher intelligence or higher intuition or higher dimension. That was a threat, my friend.

SB: Well, usually people say, “If you use my name, I’ll sue you.” But nobody’s ever come to me and said, “If you don’t use my name I’ll sue you”! It was rather—

G: It is ironic. And it is very much of the ego.

SB: I thought so, myself. But I don’t want to spend too much time on that. I’d like to remain with this question because I think it’s on a lot of peoples’ minds. We’ve often heard from SaLuSa that the Galactics are able to monitor the various people who are opposing Disclosure, and that they’re able to protect light-workers and disable weapons. I think a lot of our listeners are wondering why it would be that the dark’s actions against the relatives of people who wished to board the Neptune would not be routinely stopped by your personnel?

G: Oh, we are not saying they would not be stopped. What we are saying is we do not wish to cause any kind of upheaval. We do not wish to create any situation that even requires that kind of interference. We do not want anybody to be interfered with, observed.

But that was not the intention. The intention was a very public—‌and it became very public—‌display. It was a grassroots movement to say “We know, we believe and we accompany, we join.”

So yes, there is a great deal that has been done, both by the galactics and intergalactics. Do not make a separation between us that is not there.

But we would not interfere—‌for there is one that has said, “Well, why did you not go on the radio or computer to let people know?” [Steve: Notice how much of our conversation Grener knows about. Someone did ask me by email why Grener did not just call me.]

We would tot engage in that kind of interference because that is a very bold move. It is a very assertive, shall we say, or aggressive move for us to take. And that is not what the backdrop and the purpose of this visitation is about or was about.

SB: But I think what you’re saying is important, Grener. And I think our listeners may not understand it exactly. You are coming from a higher ethical place than we are, and I don’t think a lot of people understand that, or understand your reasoning when you come from that place. It looks like the Galactics—‌they’ll talk very confidently, but then when it comes to action they’re very—‌it’s not timid, that’s not the word I’m looking for.

G: Reserved.

SB: Reserved and circumspect. Could you please elaborate a little bit on that higher ethics, if you like, so that we can understand what is motivating you and the considerations that you have?

G: Our considerations are actually quite straightforward. Our consideration is the anchoring of peace on Earth. We are in alignment with the plan of the Universal Divine Mother; we are in alignment with the plan of peace of Archangel Michael, we are in alignment with our own Council, and with the Council of Love, for that matter, to only bring harmony to your planet. We have come not only as teachers; you say that we came from a higher ethical plane. What I would say to you is integrity is integrity.

Yes, there are various forms and ways and expressions. But our biggest concern is the growth of the human spirit into the fullness of who you are, individually and as a collective. That is our mission, and we are here to help.

We are also here to observe and to help, but also observe. We want to see how you manage this shift, how you change from a society that has been based on a lot of controls—‌lack, greed, lust, hatred, war. How do you manage this shift to the higher realm? How does it affect you? How can we help? We don’t help by stirring the pot of chaos.

So when we see that perhaps what we have done is more chaotic than peaceful, then we regroup and we re-work what it is we can do and what we can offer. Because the last thing your planet or any of you need is more chaos or more heartache.

And all heartache is is a longing for love, a longing for that trust and that truth and that connection—‌and that, dear heart is on the exact same level as we are. That is what we long for. We may be a little further along in achieving that, but we’ve had a longer period of time working at it, and we enjoy it. We do not seek to have things out of order.

This is the question behind the question. We do a great deal behind the scenes. We work with what you think needs to be changed—‌and we would agree with you—‌in your society, in terms of institutions or situations that represent those belief systems that are not of clarity. But we don’t generally talk about it. We don’t seek to have any kind of credit or acknowledgement for it. This is our mission and purpose. This is our job. So you can imagine our dismay in seeing that we have hurt people, hurt their feelings.

Now, we understand also, in our ethical position, in the bigger picture, this is helping. But it doesn’t help you to hear us say that. So what we say is we are here to encourage you to keep going, because we are and we’re with you.

SB: All right, Grener. Thank you. I’m going to ask you three questions that I hope you’ll answer just very quickly so that I don’t lose too much of this hour to them.

Accounts are starting to emerge of people who are claiming to be on the Neptune. There’s one account that features a description from John Lear, who used to write about UFOs and Area 51. Is that an accurate, reliable account?

G: Yes.

SB: Some people raised their eyebrows when he said he put a deodorant strip under his arms. Is that true?

G: Well, you can do whatever you want! That is the thing. You don’t have to.

SB: But the account was—

G: But frankly, that would be quite unusual.

SB: So the account was accurate?

G: There are some accounts that are coming forward that are very accurate—

SB: All right.

G: —‌and will be shown as reliable, some more than others.

SB: Including photographs?

G: That is correct.

SB: Okay. And Billy Woodard said that he traveled outside his body and viewed the Neptune and saw you and Archangel Michael. Is that account accurate and reliable?

G: He travelled outside of his body. He did astral travel. He was not in form.

SB: Right. Well, I think he went in his—‌I actually don’t understand the mechanism—‌went in his father’s body, or….

G: Let’s just say he has had a glimpse.

SB: So it’s accurate and reliable, though, that he did have the glimpse?

G: Yes.

SB: Okay, well, that’s good to know. One gentleman criticized you because you said that you were the Intergalactic president and you came from Neptune. Can any good thing come out of Neptune? It sounded like he was saying. Neptune on our dimension doesn’t seem to support life, and I imagine he projected on to that that Neptune at higher dimensions didn’t support life.

Could you comment on why a person from a relatively inconspicuous planet in our solar system would be the Intergalactic Council President?

G: I have told you that I am Hussian. The Neptune is my ship. And it is named in honor of Neptune, the planet, that you may think of as inconspicuous and dead, but we have a very different opinion about it.

SB: Well, tell us.

G: First of all, it was vibrant, oh, eons ago. And it will be vibrant again in other realities and dimensions. And, by the way, it is not the only Neptune in the multiverse. But the Neptune is my ship. It is not the place from where I come.

SB: Well, where do you come from?

G: I have been on ships for thousands of years. We come from a very distant planet. Originally we were from Neptune, very, very, very—‌not me, but my race, my family. We come from a place that you would think of as Zares. That is the place the Hussians had migrated to after much of the destruction.

SB: Grener, you say Neptune. Is that not a word from the Greek language [Steve: It is actually Greek. My error.], as is Andromeda and various—‌I think the Pleiades, as well? These places are not called after entities reflected in the Greek language? Are they—‌is there something I am missing about this?

G: It is reflected in the Greek language because the Greek is reflected from the intergalactic language, from the universal language. Now, there are many ways of communicating, and most of them, if we were to do a translation, would just sound like a vibration in your ear, or a bunch of—‌series of beeps and sounds as if you were—‌yes, you would be back on the conference calls, would you not?

So the Greeks were aware of this, but that is not the original origin.

SB: Is the ship actually called the Neptune, or are you just rendering that into our language?

G: Yes it is.

SB: So, so—‌but Neptune is a word in the Greek language, right?

G: That is correct.

SB: So I’m just—‌missing one little leap here. It is a word in the Greek language, and yet it’s an intergalactic word. I know you said that the Greek language is based on an intergalactic language. But how much of a coincidence is it that a Greek word would be the name of a ship?

G: Why would you find that unusual? It is a perfect name coming to Earth. It is a god of oceans, that you understood. It is a name that people would recognize. It is a perfect name for a journeying to Earth.

SB: If you went to Sirius, what would you call the ship?

G: Oh, we would still call it the Neptune. That is the name, or that is the name of this being that we have called our ship. So, we do not change the name according to where we go.

SB: Okay. Well, it still does seem coincidental to me that a name that’s known to us through Greek mythology should be both the name of a ship and also the name of—

G: Because that idea was planted in Greek language and mythology thousands and thousands and thousands of years ago. And that is where the intergalactic connection comes from.

There is very little new on Earth, you know. There is much beauty and diversity. But in terms of what you think of as your myths or your understandings, your histories, much of that has been given from the stars.

Oh, there is a history that you have created absolutely yourself that we want absolutely no credit for. But there are some things that have been given and shared long, long ago.

SB: All right. I don’t want to take up too much of our time, because I’m sure that what my listeners most want to hear is when they might expect to come on board, who might expect to come on board, whether you’re using the list that Linda and we composed? It all boils down to: when will I come on board? So could you talk about that for a minute please?

G: We have said to you very recently that we are not about to expose or give lists of who, when, where, because we have seen the fury that that can cause, above and below. But I could encourage you, each of your listeners, that if you are in a place where you are feeling out of sorts, if you are feeling desperation, if you are feeling anger, then please ask to be beamed up to the healing ships at night so that we may also assist you.

But each being we will take into account. Because they will come in small groups, as we have said, and we will accommodate people’s schedules and needs, and you will have your own intuition and inclination, and tap on your intuitive shoulder, or your guides will speak to you, or we will speak to you. And you will know when the time is right. Of course it will be slower, because we are doing it in smaller lots. But those will—

SB: What is a smaller lot, Grener?

G: Smaller groups.

SB: What is smaller? What—‌could—‌is it okay to tell us the size of the smaller groups?

G: It depends. Usually four to six.

SB: And the duration, expected duration of the stay?

G: It is not long. It is not as long as we originally intended, although there are some who have very specific business with us, who will stay for longer periods. And they tend to know who they are. But for some it will be a few hours, for some it will be an overnight, for some it will be a day or two. But they will have the opportunity to create the right atmosphere in which to depart so that there is no upheaval, no fear, no chaos.

Many people go away for a few days.

SB: [laughs] Un-hunh. It’s in our interests to try to get as much information out of you as we can. And it’s both in your interests and in your knowledge of our interests that you not give as much information as you can, so—

G: That is exactly correct. I am stonewalling you, [laughter] while I’m telling you what we can tell you.

SB: Okay, well let me continue asking and you can continue stonewalling.

The people—‌you said earlier that people were coming up who had a very much older connection with the Galactic Federation. And so now I’m trying to get information out of you, but carefully. Could you describe what you meant by having an older connection with the Federation? Are these teachers, are these—

G: They are ones have travelled with us before, what you think of as Starseed, those who may have even been part of this intergalactic grouping at one point in time, who have chosen to be on Earth at this point in time. But we also it means those who have—‌for example, you have people who want to do specific projects with us, and we are very open to doing that. But that will not be publicized. It will become public record, but we will not be talking about it beforehand.

But yes, there are many beings on Earth who have been part of our family. We were not just speaking eloquently when we say we were inviting you back as family. And, yes, it is a large family. That is why so many have this yearning and this knowing in their hearts.

And so many of you who listened tonight have broken those shackles, say, “Oh, I have to stay here.” And you are progressing on your journey, not just your journey to us, because we will still return you home. We are talking about your journey of Ascension, that we wish to help with.

SB: Is the Neptune the only ship around that is having people come aboard?

G: At the moment. And that was one of the points of discussion. We wanted it—‌it’s a very big ship you know—‌but we did not want 50 people here, or 50 people there. It was to be more of a reunion than that. So, do people visit various ships, both in our fleets and in others? Absolutely. All the time! But is it part of this joint venture? No. But that does not mean that they cannot report back interesting information and different evidence at different points in time as well.

SB: All right. We have you, as the Intergalactic President, on the Neptune; we have Hatonn somewhere else; SaLuSa is somewhere else. Are you working together? Hatonn, for instance, said that you hadn’t invited him on board, but you know, undoubtedly that was because you probably knew how busy he was. Do you meet with Hatonn and SaLuSa and various other people who are addressing us?

G: Of course we do. We talk. We communicate. We don’t necessarily have to visit each other’s ships, and we don’t necessarily have to be part of each other’s delegations. But of course we work as a unified force.

SB: Well, I understand that, but I’m thinking more—‌let me put it this way— Does SaLuSa know what you’re up to?

G: Yes. More or less, yes.

SB: Yes. Okay.

G: They do not try and interfere in our—‌various projects. They have far too much to do themselves. But there is an integrated plan, yes. An integrated communication, yes.

SB: Do you know what I’m trying to get at—‌I’m trying to imagine what’s going on up there. And I don’t know whether I should have SaLuSa situated in one ship, and you situated in another ship, and Hatonn in a third. Whether there are different—

G: And we can all meet in the Intergalactic café, halfway.

SB: That’s right, the space bar. Exactly. So I’m trying to imagine: What’s going on up there? Apparently there are millions of ships. Are they organized into fleets?

G: We are waiting. We are working. We are certainly observing. Sometimes we are laughing, sometimes we are crying. And that is true for all of us. From the person who is a science officer or a part of a crew. Yes, we are all doing this together. There is a unified grid of information and of sharing.

SB: What does that mean?

G: Your internet, your universal internet was based on ours, you know. It is very primitive, what you have at the moment, but it is coming along. So we have communication, dear heart.

SB: Well, are you divided by star system, or are you divided by duty, or how is it organized up there?

G: It is not always by star system, because there are many that come from different systems. It is primarily by mission and function, mission and purpose, and what you wish to work on.

SB: Can you give some examples of mission and purpose?

G: Yes, for example, there are starships that are simply, absolutely—‌ within the Neptune we would have our science departments, as it were—‌what you would think of as; but we also have science ships, we also have explorer ships, we also have what you can think of as teaching ships. There are communication ships for the enlightenment and the connection with Earthlings. There are ships that are completely devoted to observing what all of Earth’s military does, or what finance does, not in a way always of interfering, because that is not what we do. But sometimes we can offer advice or help that will assist in shifting things, but in the direction where your plan is going.

Our division of labor, if you want to think of it that way, is who wants to work on what area with Earth?

SB: And in your position as Intergalactic President, President of the Intergalactic Council, are you over the whole of the fleet? Or where do you fit in, if you don’t mind me asking?

G: No. When I have said that this is an honorary presidency, it is a real position. Do not make a mistake. I had to abandon or resign my command in order to take this position. So it is not a position where I am in charge or over the command of all the ships. There is a membership of all beings.

[MUSIC UP]

SB: I think I’m being given my signal, Grener. Thank you very much for being with us here tonight.

G: What had we intended to do was to do a meditation.

SB: Yes, indeed.

G: And so I am going to take advantage of this, to invite each of you to go into your hearts and to come with me, to come to the infinite star, the star that burns brightly for you, and to take that star and bring it into your heart, and to feel the love of all your brothers and sisters that serve on all the ships throughout this universe. We love and support you. And we will be with you, above and below, and in your 3D. But turn to us for this healing as you go forward individually and collectively. We are here for you. Go in peace.

SB: Thank you, Grener.

G: Farewell. And we will miss you, Steve.

SB: Thank you, Grener. I’ll be back.

G: We know. Farewell.

SB: Farewell.

G: So take advantage of this and just finish up tonight by going into your heart and welcoming the opportunity for growth, for expansion, for your next step. And when any doubt or fear or trepidation creeps in, just bring it back to your love, because that’s who you are. Good night.

SB: Thank you.

G: Goodbye.

[END]

[The Observer]

SB: Grener, you say Neptune. Is that not a word from the Greek language [Steve: It is actually Greek. My error.], as is Andromeda and various—‌I think the Pleiades, as well? These places are not called after entities reflected in the Greek language? Are they—‌is there something I am missing about this?

G: It is reflected in the Greek language because the Greek is reflected from the intergalactic language, from the universal language

This error, if nothing else, should convince people of the fraud being perpetrated here. If Grener was truly a galactic, celestial, etc., he should have immediately corrected Steve about his error in stating that word Neptune was of Greek origin, instead of waiting for someone on Earth-Shan to point it out.

Next thing you know, Grener will be running the Neptune into a ring of Saturn when he tried to show-boat for the passengers.

[Deep Knight]

SB: Grener, you say Neptune. Is that not a word from the Greek language [Steve: It is actually Greek. My error.], as is Andromeda and various—‌I think the Pleiades, as well? These places are not called after entities reflected in the Greek language? Are they—‌is there something I am missing about this?

G: It is reflected in the Greek language because the Greek is reflected from the intergalactic language, from the universal language

This error, if nothing else, should convince people of the fraud being perpetrated here. If Grener was truly a galactic, celestial, etc., he should have immediately corrected Steve about his error in stating that word Neptune was of Greek origin, instead of waiting for someone on Earth-Shan to point it out.

Next thing you know, Grener will be running the Neptune into a ring of Saturn when he tried to show-boat for the passengers.

Not only is Neptune from the Latin "Neptunus" for the god of the oceans, rivers, underground waters and earthquakes (Greek equivalent, Posiedon or Ποσειδῶν), but the planet Neptune was unknown to both ancient Romans and Greeks, being invisible to the naked eye. It was discovered in 1846 by Le Verrier. These aliens wouldn't make such simple mistakes if they learned to do a simple internet search.

[rogfulton]

Finally, channeler Greg Giles
<snip>
Mr. Beckow deserves no blame at all for the disappointment some feel today. Instead, he deserves all the credit in the world for proposing such a brilliant idea that I have not heard proposed by anyone else to this point.

Is he saying going on a spiritual journey on board a previously unnoticed nearby spaceship with 'higher beings' is Beckow's new idea? Seriously?

As soon as I read those sentences, I thought of Marshall Applewhite and Heaven's Gate.

[Deep Knight]

It appears that Linda Dillon, channer for Grener, sensed that this would not happen 2 days before it didn't. Wow! What insight!

Where is the Love?
February 2, 2012 by Linda Dillon

There has been an incredible flurry of activity and overwhelming response from those who are not only willing, but eager to be part of the Earth Delegation to the Intergalactic Council.What has started out as something really sweet has taken on the energy of something between a fire sale and a typhoon.
I would like to go back to the original conversation Steve Beckow, an incredible lightholder, had with Grener of Ashira of Neptune on Monday night, Jan. 30th on “An Hour with an Angel.” The request was for a small group of 20 people to come and act as emissaries for Earth, and to begin the process of disclosure. Grener enthusiastically welcomed the idea and indicated those chosen would be those with credibility and a comfort in dealing with the media, and ensuing fallout that is bound to take place after such a revelation.

Those who would not come to this initial “joy ride” would be those under the age of majority, those who had any inclination to stay on board and not return, and those who could not arrange the time for such an extended tour – 10 days in human time.
Steve and I have felt joy and amazement at the numbers of people who have stepped forward, who have had a deep connection to our star brothers and sisters, and a deep heart-longing to see and be with them again. But some pushing and shoving in the line has started. I understand this because you are so darned eager to go – I get it!

Unfortunately, the announcement of the trip has also spurred a vigorous and somewhat negative and hurtful debate which is taking place both publicly and privately on the reality of Grener’s offer and “what if.” What has started off as a really loving exercise is devolving into a little bit of a pissing contest. Steve Beckow is a man of incredible integrity. He has offered his energies and life freely to bring information, lively discussion and a platform of understanding to the world. He is beyond question one of the most ethical people on the planet and seeks only to bring truth forward.

Like Steve, I have committed my life – the past 30 years – to serving the Light and the Council of Love. I know who I listen to, and taking my marching orders from. I have prayed and prayed for this day when people would wake up and step forward to claim their rightful place as way-showers, healers and teachers of love. So, since when was love rude? Since when is attack part of how we operate?

I have channeled and loved my brothers and sisters of the stars for close to 30 years. I have channeled Grener for about 20 years. He is a commander and diplomat; he has guided Earth’s initiation into the Intergalactic Council. He is solid, responsible and reliable. And he is a dear dear friend. I have been on board the ship many times and I am not delusional, just private. I don’t share all of my experiences on Facebook and Twitter. There are some things you hold close to your heart. What I always share are the channeled messages of hope and love because that’s the entire point of the journey – that is why each of us is here.

The star beings, Archangel Michael, the Council of Love, and I’m sure many other sources, have consistently said the star beings would not come in fear – that if there was fear on the planet, and if knowledge of the presence created anything less than love and peace, then they would not come. But what also holds true is the reverse – they are not going to create a situation that causes division, tension, and separation between the lightworker community. They don’t want to create any sense of separation, anger, disappointment – or any of the lesser vibrations of Old Earth. That just reinforces the old from which we are ascending.

So what are we doing? Where is this nastiness coming from? What is the problem? And it hurts me to even pose these questions. I will be chatting with Grener later today, as will Steve. We will let you know the information that is being shared and how this mayhem is being viewed.

Stop for a moment with me. What is the worst thing that could happen if this “joy ride” to the mother ship the Neptune doesn’t happen on Saturday? What is the worse-case scenario if the Earth delegation doesn’t get to go? The worst thing that can happen is that we, as a lightholder and lightworker community, have come together and recognized just how eager and ready we are to step forward. That is incredible!

And what you also need to know, if by some extreme chance, this is put on hold or canceled because of the chaos it’s creating, is not that it won’t happen, it just won’t happen this Saturday. But it will happen. So let’s pull up that trust

So, since when was love rude? Since it's been being practiced by Deep Knight on the lovely line of Supermodels waiting in line at his bedroom door, that's when!

[The Observer]

...[the celestials] have consistently said the star beings would not come in fear – that if there was fear on the planet, and if knowledge of the presence created anything less than love and peace, then they would not come.

Then that means that they are never coming. There will always be people who are going to be fearful of something new happening, so it can't be avoided. I say we just tell the celestials to move on without us and to find another planet where its inhabitants love being lied to, swindled and probed in their nether regions.

[Gregg]

Some people have no faith. If I told you I went on vacation to an island and was telling you about all the things that I saw and did, would you say I don't believe you unless I can see the photos? Photos can come later.

Well, the first thing that comes to mind is....

people have been going to islands for tens of thousands of years, tens of thousands of people to to islands every day. I've been in several islands, of all descriptions from little islands on the Little Miami River all the way up to Great Britain and Greenland. (I have pictures, too, btw)

But even without the snapshots, saying I've gone to an island is a long damn way from saying I've been spending time on the alien spaceship.

[Deep Knight]

Loose Ends
2012 February 8
Posted by Steve Beckow
...
Before closing off on the topic of last week, I wanted to say what I hope is the final word.

I am completely and fully responsible for the events of last week.

I immediately hear someone say, well, no, Grener and Archangel Michael are.

I mean “responsible” in a very particular way. So let me restate what I just said.

I completely and fully own my part in the events of last week. None of you know Grener; neither did I before a couple of weeks ago. You didn’t respond to Grener’s invitation for the most part because of Grener but because you put your faith and trust in my judgment and my word.

I by the way still place faith and trust in the reality of the Neptune and Grener and the Intergalactic Council. And I could be wrong. But be that as it may, you stepped forward and volunteered to go aboard the spaceship and represent Earth to the galactics on my say-so. And so I say I fully and completely own my part in those events.

Those people who remained my friends but now see my part as unwise, ill-advised, and so on are doing what they need to do and I acknowledge their position and feel no rancour or animosity. Nor will I somehow take punitive action or hold their opposition against them in any way (any way) – except if what they say is in my view untrue. In that case, I won’t support what I see as an untruth. But I’ll ensure that there is no … how can I say it? … fallout for them that comes from parting company.

Not all lightworkers are ever going to agree. I’d hope we do it amicably but, even if we don’t, the universal law does not somehow enforce agreement. It rather enables free will. And through the action of disagreement and debate, we arrive at a clearer picture of the truth.

This period of time we’re passing through, as far as I can see, is going to result in the fall of cherished beliefs on all our parts. It seems almost impossible to know the truth of much of what we encounter these days.

We’re operating for the most part without tangible evidence of the ET presence, except a few videos of little round white lights moving across the sky in ways an airplane wouldn’t do. We have no tangible evidence of NESARA, the Earth allies (except the explosion of the underground bunkers perhaps), no evidence of archangels and elohim and even of the Divine Plan.

But still we accept them provisionally and act as if they were true for the benefit that comes from that – for ourselves and for the world.

I personally am learning to operate with a tremendous amount of cognitive dissonance within me. I’m learning to accept circumstances provisionally, go with the highest, hold paradox in my mind peacefully, and let go of whatever proves untenable without blame or rancor.

This is Steve's last post for a while. Well, except for the next one, which has this comment.

Allegations Being Made
2012 February 8
Posted by Steve Beckow

John Lear

Tyco Mars will be publishing a number of stories that make allegations against Linda Dillon and Dave Schmidt.

I’m away from home at the moment and may find it somewhat difficult to address the two matters in a necessarily timely manner. But what I’d like to say before the fact is that, according to Dave and Linda, both stories misrepresent the situation of both people. Linda and Dave will be supplying us with the facts as they see them in both cases.

You may wish to read their accounts before you reach a conclusion.

Also John Lear has allegedly responded to the post purported to have come from him on board the Neptune and said that it did not come from him. If the denial has really come from John, I’m aware of the contradiction that this would represent and will deal with the matter when I return.

[Deep Knight]

Spacemuffin – 2012 : Extreme Caution Advised – 8 February 2012
Posted on February 8, 2012 by lucas2012infos

2012: EXTREME CAUTION ADVISED

The reality is that many people claim to be channelling, but only very few actually are. As a reader of channelled material for over 30 years, I am prompted to say that much information received and reported today is NOT channelled.

To use an example, people are posting messages from a being who claims to be channelling Arch Angel Micheal. The messages have so many lines which are false, but nevertheless, people are posting these words on various websites and are taking them to be true. The information is ego-based and highly skeptic, but people are not catching on to that.

Further, a message which claims to be channelled, cannot be PARTIALLY channelled and partially the influence of the so-called channeller! This is impossible. The higher powers that be, would never risk their own words and reputations by speaking through somebody who is going to misconstrue and pass off information they claim to be from someone else, but which is really their own.

Our guides, arch angels, ascended masters, and star brothers and sisters are not going to channel through anybody who is going to:

A. Experience ego reinforcement
B. Colour the information with personal opinions
C. Alter the information coming through, consciously or unconsciously
D. Use their status as a channeller to gain favouritism or status
E. Seek verification from others about being ‘right’
F. Use this so-called information to prove a point
G. Or in any way interfere with the message/energy of the entity they say they are channelling.

Those who wish to be channelled are not going to take the risk of sending forth false information in THEIR name. Think about it. If you were an angel, would you speak through somebody who you felt would risk totally screwing up your message and your reputation? No. You would never attempt to speak through that person. That would in fact be very dangerous to your position. And that is why very few people are capable of actually channelling.

And there is a big difference between those who are channellers, those who are mediums, those who are trance mediums, those who are clairaudient and those who are really just speaking to their higher self and/or inner voice. But that’s not channelling.

It is sad to see what people are being led to believe, but this is a test for each and every one of us now.

In these times we are in right now, people are searching for meaning and guidance in their life, and turning to channelled information for help in this manner, but without experience, and a firm background, they may fail to seek the vibrations of authenticity, and it’s easy to get confused. The best way to describe this vibe is one of purity and upliftment, which is meant to guide and direct, but not tell others what to do, or coerce them into parting with large sums of money, or participating in worship of the channeller. This has sadly occurred so often.

Channellers are now popping up from all over the place, coming out of the woodwork, so to speak, and it is wonderful that people around the globe are getting in touch with their inner voice, or higher self, or speaking with their spirit guides. But channelling is not what they are doing, and when an entity chooses a person to pass on their vital information to others, this is a complex process of choice, both for the one who wishes to reach humanity, and for the channeller who is able to pass that on without adulterating the message. This is an undertaking wrought with responsibility, for both the guide and the physically incarnated individual who they wish to channel through.

There is so much reliable channelled information out there now, and it is sadly very easy for anybody to piece together many different channelled works to present something that ‘sounds right’ but which contains no actual ‘divine’ component, or actual contact with a higher being. Those works are often pieced together with comments which join them together, which are coming directly from the individual, which serve to promote ego, or put forth a personal message of some kind, intended to sway readers to their line of thinking. To an experienced reader of channelled material, these messages entirely lack the vibrations necessary to pass them off as being authentic. But to the inexperienced ones, they are easily tricked and fooled, and that is an unfortunate reality.

I am being prompted to write these words, but I am not channelling them. I am only coming from a place of experience, nothing more.

Face Piles of Trials with Smiles

The Muffin

[Deep Knight]

For someone not posting, Steve Beckow is posting quite a bit. Perhaps it's to avoid leaving his computer and going to dinner, where tonight they're serving crow.

John Lear Contradicts Account
2012 February 10
Posted by Steve Beckow

Again I don’t think I can not return to mention this matter. With this post, I believe I’ve now attended to all loose threads and will not be posting more unless a matter again arises that I cannot fail to address.

John Lear has denied that he wrote the account alleged to have come from him saying he was on board the Neptune. Here is his denial posted to Godlike Productions:

Re: I am the real John Lear… ask me a question

The following missive has been travelling through out the universe with a story that is absolute nonsense. Normally I would play along for a little fun. But in this case I think that would only muddy the waters as I think this is clearly a disinformation attempt to discredit me. I mean, why bother? Anyway, have a nice read but its only nonsense. the original spelling has not been corrected. I’ve never heard of a Mr. Beckow.

I have heard of John and I accept his credibility without question. I don’t believe his denial is a fake or a contrivance.

Grener appears to have said that it was John Lear who was on board the ships. I post the relevant part of the transcript here.

SB: All right, Grener. Thank you. I’m going to ask you three questions that I hope you’ll answer just very quickly so that I don’t lose too much of this hour to them.

Accounts are starting to emerge of people who are claiming to be on the Neptune. There’s one account that features a description from John Lear, who used to write about UFOs and Area 51. Is that an accurate, reliable account?

G: Yes.

SB: Some people raised their eyebrows when he said he put a deodorant strip under his arms. Is that true?

G: Well, you can do whatever you want! That is the thing. You don’t have to.

SB: But the account was—

G: But frankly, that would be quite unusual.

SB: So the account was accurate?

G: There are some accounts that are coming forward that are very accurate—

SB: All right.

G: —‌and will be shown as reliable, some more than others.

SB: Including photographs?

G: That is correct.

One could say things like, well, Grener did not directly say it was John Lear’s account, when I asked him to confirm he did not directly answer me, etc. But that would be splitting hairs and prevaricating.

I’d like to talk to Grener first before reaching a final conclusion about his own statement. But certainly, the claim that the original account came from John Lear has been successfully contradicted. Whether the CIA or some other agency put it out is not known.

Whether Grener can or cannot reconcile his own statement remains to be seen. I will ask him about the matter after I return.

[The Observer]

Whether Grener can or cannot reconcile his own statement remains to be seen. I will ask him about the matter after I return.

Holding Grener to accountability? Isn't that a bit presumptive for a Earth-Shan primitive to believe that a celestial commanding a starship should be answerable to Beckow for all of the nonsense that has transpired over the last couple of weeks? Isn't Beckow the least bit concerned that Grener could obliterate him in a second with the purple flame for this insulting behavior? And why is Beckow giving the channeler a free pass on this? After all, it's possible that she bumbled the channeling and gave out all sorts of wrong information, thus wrongly impugning Grener's credibility.

I think that if Beckow's attitude ends up angering the celestial fleet so badly that they refuse to give joy rides in the future, we should file a class-action suit against him for robbing us of our opportunity.

But that would be splitting hairs and prevaricating

Beckow is on the right path - there is a lot of prevaricating going on. But it ain't Grener.

[Deep Knight]

Holding Grener to accountability? Isn't that a bit presumptive for a Earth-Shan primitive to believe that a celestial commanding a starship should be answerable to Beckow for all of the nonsense that has transpired over the last couple of weeks?

Many, many years ago I had a girlfriend who got recruited into "Rama Seminars," a new-age cult run by "Rama" who was really Frederick Lenz (often "Dr" but I've heard this was bogus, as were many of his biographical claims). See http://www.skepdic.com/rama.html

Anyway, she dragged me along to one of their "seminars" that talked about Auras and their different colors. I asked if everyone who was in tune to this preception saw the same colors, and the answer was an enthusiastic "yes." So I suggested an experiment where a bunch of people would be viewed by a group who would write down the aura colors they saw and then later checked to see if they matched. The room was suddenly filled with panic. The "Yes" answer and aura color preception became "maybe" and then "no" (everyone sees their own truth, don't cha know). Finally the consensus was "if you test things it means you don't have faith, and without faith it doesn't work."

My analysis - they all knew they were selling a load of BS and thus the fear in their eyes when someone wanted to test things to see if they were true.

[The Observer]

Well, that is what you get for dating a super model - getting dragged off to meetings where you have to challenge the common wisdom. Personally, a movie and dinner is a lot easier on the mind.

[Deep Knight]

J. L. Navarro - I'm not sure exactly where this guy is coming from ...there are no answers there, just clues... but these posts on Grener of Neptune are worth checking out.

steve-beckow-is-going-to-neptune
http://jlnavarro.blogspot.com/2012/02/s ... ptune.html
steve-beckows-teleconference-2412
http://jlnavarro.blogspot.com/2012/02/s ... -2412.html
good-question
http://jlnavarro.blogspot.com/2012/02/g ... stion.html
true-alien-from-neptune
http://jlnavarro.blogspot.com/2012/02/t ... ptune.html
exercising-on-mothership
http://jlnavarro.blogspot.com/2012/02/e ... rship.html