Reno's sentencing

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Re: Reno's sentencing

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webhick wrote:
Demosthenes wrote:More frivolous crap filed by Reno this week:

http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/gonzalez517.pdf
I don't think that Reno filed those. Near his signature, it says "POA" with some initials, probably Jose's. Is there some way Reno can stop Jose from filing motions on his behalf? Like a restraining order or something?
I haven't followed this closely, but did the court ever recognize the POA?

If not, this is yet another piece of meaningless paper that should be stricken.

If it did recognize the POA, this is yet another piece of meaningless paper that should be stricken.
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Judge Roy Bean wrote:
webhick wrote:
Demosthenes wrote:More frivolous crap filed by Reno this week:

http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/gonzalez517.pdf
I don't think that Reno filed those. Near his signature, it says "POA" with some initials, probably Jose's. Is there some way Reno can stop Jose from filing motions on his behalf? Like a restraining order or something?
I haven't followed this closely, but did the court ever recognize the POA?

If not, this is yet another piece of meaningless paper that should be stricken.

If it did recognize the POA, this is yet another piece of meaningless paper that should be stricken.
And the notary involved who is signing off on this should be turned in/over to the TX Secretary of State. Even if he is a legit POA, He has no right to be signing Reno's signature as "Cirino Rodriguez".
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cynicalflyer wrote:And the notary involved who is signing off on this should be turned in/over to the TX Secretary of State. Even if he is a legit POA, He has no right to be signing Reno's signature as "Cirino Rodriguez".
Actually, signing the principal's name is what the agent is supposed to do, but it's supposed to be done so that it is clear who is signing.

What Jose should have done was sign "Cirino Gonzales" and then write "by," sign his own name, and then "attorney in fact" (or "agent" or something to indicate his authority to sign for Cirino). "POA" followed by initials is not good enough.

And what the notary should have done was change the acknowledgment to make it clear that it was Jose acting for Cirino who appeared before her, and not Cirino.
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Reno has fired his attorney David Bownes again today at about 1:30 PM.

If anyone knows of any legal advocates, agencies, investigators who might meet with Reno please let me know.............

Dear Friends and Supporters of Cirino Gonzalez aka RENO

Reno has asked for your help. He is being denied the ability to press charges against his own attorney, prosecutors and judge for illegally taking him to Maine for a plea agreement hearing. He was asked to waive his constitutional and all rights to have his hearing in the District of New Hampshire, which he DID NOT do. They took him to Maine anyway and violating his rights, this act is against the law and no one is being held accountable. Reno is being denied the ability to file charges against those who have violated his rights and have broken the law.

Please write / email The Concord Monitor and The Union Leader and ask them to report this injustice on behalf of Reno.

With all my heart I thank you for everything you have and continue to do on behalf of our dear freedom fighter and friend.
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The letters have started rolling in.
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Let me guess, they're bitching about Rule 18 without actually having read Rule 18 or how the courts have ruled on it.
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Scoop wrote:The letters have started rolling in.
Have the number of letters gotten into the double digit range yet?

What amazes me is how Reno's defenders argue that the judge should be criminally prosecuted for handling non-substantive matters (those without a jury) out of state, but Reno is somehow blameless for his role in the armed standoff. :roll:
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE
DISTRICT OF NEW HAMPSHIRE
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* UNITED STATES OF AMERICA *
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* v. * 07-CR-0189-03-GZS
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* CIRINO GONZALEZ *
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MOTION TO WITHDRAW
NOW COMES counsel, David H. Bownes, for the defendant, Cirino Gonzalez, and
respectfully requests that this Court permit this counsel to withdraw.
As grounds for this request it is stated:
1. Sentencing for Counts Two and Three is currently scheduled for September 26, 2008.
2. This counsel is filing this request to withdraw at Mr. Gonzalez’s request based upon
what appears to be irreconcilable differences.
3. No further memorandum of law is necessary.
4. Due to the nature of this request, counsel has not sought concurrence.
WHEREFORE the defendant requests that this Court grant said relief and for such
further relief as may be just.
Respectfully Submitted,
Cirino Gonzalez,
By His Attorney,
LAW OFFICE OF DAVID H. BOWNES, P.C.
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Re: Reno's sentencing

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As confirmed by VanMeter
Reno said that David Bownes went to visit him today to ask if he had been serious about being fired. Reno is serious about this, but we know how the judge will react on this. He told David he is upset and has broken his trust. For one, David was asked by Reno to produce all his emails, especially one sent to him shortly after he had left Ed and Elaines, sent by Lisa M. asking Reno to go back up to the Browns. In which he tells her no, i was asked to leave, and gave her his other reasons. If these emails were produced that there should had proven there was no great conspiricy on his part. Reno has felt let down by David for a number of reasons.
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VanMeter wrote:David was asked by Reno to produce all his emails, especially one sent to him shortly after he had left Ed and Elaines, sent by Lisa M. asking Reno to go back up to the Browns. In which he tells her no, i was asked to leave, and gave her his other reasons. If these emails were produced that there should had proven there was no great conspiricy on his part.
I'm reasonably certain that, if Reno and his lawyer ever had such a conversation, the lawyer would have explained that the emails were hearsay and inadmissable.

And I'm reasonably certain that Reno would not have listened because it wasn't what he wanted to hear.
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cynicalflyer wrote:As confirmed by VanMeter
Reno said that David Bownes went to visit him today to ask if he had been serious about being fired. Reno is serious about this, but we know how the judge will react on this. He told David he is upset and has broken his trust. For one, David was asked by Reno to produce all his emails, especially one sent to him shortly after he had left Ed and Elaines, sent by Lisa M. asking Reno to go back up to the Browns. In which he tells her no, i was asked to leave, and gave her his other reasons. If these emails were produced that there should had proven there was no great conspiricy on his part. Reno has felt let down by David for a number of reasons.
Since when does getting kicked out of a conspiracy dissolve you of your part in the conspiracy? I have a vague recollection of a similar argument made by Hendrickson regarding the whole mailbombing fiasco.

Edit: Unless he's saying that the conspiracy could not exist without him... try not to frell yourself over there, Reno.
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That's only a 5 on the VanMeter.
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Reno tries to fire his lawyer again.

http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/gonzalez520.pdf
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Demosthenes wrote:Reno tries to fire his lawyer again.

http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/gonzalez520.pdf
Isn't his sentencing coming up soon? Any new developments? LLM studies are kicking my ass, I haven't had hardly any free time at all.
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I would imagine that Bownes has to be approximately the happiest guy in the entire state of New Hampshire.
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Re: Reno's sentencing

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Imalawman wrote:
Demosthenes wrote:Reno tries to fire his lawyer again.

http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/gonzalez520.pdf
Isn't his sentencing coming up soon? Any new developments? LLM studies are kicking my ass, I haven't had hardly any free time at all.
Reno's sentencing is next Friday at 10:00 am.
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Demosthenes wrote:Reno tries to fire his lawyer again.

http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/gonzalez520.pdf
Easy to see that Joe Haas had input into this. Joe is relentless, even when wrong.
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Demosthenes wrote:Reno tries to fire his lawyer again.

http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/gonzalez520.pdf
Via a temper-tantrum style letter to the judge.
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Bud Dickman wrote:Deleted at lastlady's request.
Bud was a nice guy and deleted Last Lady's personal information at her request, so what does she do? She posts a bunch of really ugly lies about Jay on the NH Free forum.

Such is the world of ugly TP flakes.

Her post, of course, brought out Haas' fixation with Jews:
Disgusting Jay: stop being that one-eyed pirate with a patch thief, and start being the cyclops with a club like in one of those Ray Harryhousen sci-fi movies, not to talk Quatloos as in that monetary system of some fictional Star Trek episode, but with the club of truth, like Teddy Roosevelt said I think it was: walk softly, but carry a big stick!

Plus BTW I remember the slogan that: saying is slander, and writing is libel. So when he knows the truth and does otherwise, he is a liar. Plus what religion is he? If he's like Hodes who SAYS he's a Jew, but does lie, then I put him in the same boat of Satan, yeah: The Boat of Satan, sailing the high seas, and this Kiss-Asser can be it's captain of the west shores over there in CAlifornia. To that I say KEEP OUT of New England you thief unless you wise up! A thief by cover-up of the truth and dishing out lies by deception to his members. They can all go in a boat over "the edge of the world", as maybe he's a Flat Earther too.
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Re: Reno's sentencing

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Letter from Reno's daddy to the judge.
Date: Sep 20, 2008 12:19 AM
Subject: Dear Judge Singal
Body: It should be addressed to:
Hon. George Z. Singal, U.S.
District Judge
U.S.
District Court
55 Pleasant Street
Concord, NH 03301___________________________

Judge Singal,

Although my opinion may be dismissed as biased, I must say that we, in the Gonzalez Family are well respected for our honesty and objectivity. We are of the opinion that supporting the truth is more important than supporting even family. For this reason we prefer being involved with people knowledgeable of the truth as opposed to those with a propensity to following the opinions of others. Especially, if others are just following the dominant majority instead of researching or educating themselves.

This, perhaps, is the reason that my son, Cirino, was seen as a threat by officers. Keep in mind that this man, Cirino, is the same man that rushed out into a street, in front of a snow-cone stand, to snatch a toddler about to be struck by a pickup truck; the same man that, while his own minivan was stuck in the mud on a rainy South Texas night, helped an elderly Hispanic woman when HER car became flat in the street. The next day she brought Cirino a chocolate cake to thank him (we still have the aqua plate). My son, Cirino, became an expert at rescuing me from car breakdowns during my return to college (100 miles daily round trip). Everyone in the family, as well as friends, acquaintances, and even strangers, have found that Cirino can be depended upon for a helping hand at any time.

Cirino has few close friends but has touched so many even before this present ordeal. He celebrates many extremely loyal acquaintances that often make an effort to go out of their way to just say "hello" to my son in public. He is popular amongst the affluent in our town, as well as the middle class and especially the poor and working class, whom consider Cirino to be genuinely concerned about their well-being. He managed a local night club for about a year, during which, even though his duties included "bouncing" people out, he became very much recognized for his sense of fairness. Cirino even still maintains an amicable relationship with his ex-wife, and often watches their children while she is at work. These four children miss him dearly and the little one asks me, every time, to get her daddy out of jail.

Cirino Gonzalez has led a life of honesty, free of any legal conviction, accusations, or otherwise implications of any lawlessness what so ever. Even this case seems rather one of mistaken and/or misrepresented intentions. Nonetheless, all is well that ends well, and Cirino can honestly say that he successfully avoiding harm or violence to anyone in this matter. Cirino continues his message of peace. Please, keep in mind that Cirino's primary purpose in this whole matter was the preservation of human life; In Iraq, in the USA, in New Hampshire. I grant that he may have chosen unwisely in the eyes of others and, perhaps, self-preservation may well be the biggest casualty of the magnanimous.

Please, demonstrate leniency at his sentencing so that this gentle man may continue his quest of aiding Humanity and return home to those that love and miss him.

Jose M.
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