"State" is not only DC

[rachel]

Really,
So neckbone, with your infinite wisdom (questionable), why doesnt the paper boy who hasnt come to the age of 18 not statutortily 3121(b) "employed" and nor does he have to pay federal income taxes on his pay? Prehaps because his total income for the year is well below the filing threshhold?
How about the person who's paid by his employer for something done not in the course of the employers "Trade or Business" considered not being 3121(b) employed either. Shouldnt the employee still be withheld federal taxes. I mean seriously Neckbone, the employee was still paid by and from the employer reqardless.
Social Security considers a "trade or business" as an employer whos supplies a service to the public.
How does the employer get around not supplying a service to the public and yet still pays an employee?
Hes still an employee doing a service of what ever nature!

Is that clear enough for you?
IDIOT!

Why do you keep signing your posts with a name other than Rachel?

Perhaps, but I doubt it.
I know a paperboy who makes well over the filing threshold.
He gets about 100.00 a month all year long!

Your to observant for your own good, idiot!

[Nikki]

Perhaps, but I doubt it.
I know a paperboy who makes well over the filing threshold.
He gets about 100.00 a month all year long!

Your to observant for your own good, idiot!

Single dependents
You must file a return if any of the following apply.
Your unearned income was more than $850.

Your earned income was more than $5,150.

Your gross income was more than the larger of —

$850, or

Your earned income (up to $4,850) plus $300.

Let's see $100 per month for 12 months works out to around $1,200 for the year. If I'm not mistaken, $1,200 is somewhat less than $5,150.

Rachel, I a-pol-o-gize for us-ing big words, but I real-ly thought you could un-der-stand what thresh-hold meant.

Ob-vi-ous-ly, that con-cept is well bey-ond your men-tal ca-pac-i-ty.

Right back at you, Rachel the Idiot.

BTW, it's not "Your to observant..."

The correct English usage is "You're too observant..."

Perhaps you should go back to your ESL class at the same time that you finish up your remedial civics class.

[rachel]

Perhaps, but I doubt it.
I know a paperboy who makes well over the filing threshold.
He gets about 100.00 a month all year long!

Your to observant for your own good, idiot!

Single dependents
You must file a return if any of the following apply.
Your unearned income was more than $850.

Your earned income was more than $5,150.

Your gross income was more than the larger of —

$850, or

Your earned income (up to $4,850) plus $300.

Let's see $100 per month for 12 months works out to around $1,200 for the year. If I'm not mistaken, $1,200 is somewhat less than $5,150.

Rachel, I a-pol-o-gize for us-ing big words, but I real-ly thought you could un-der-stand what thresh-hold meant.

Ob-vi-ous-ly, that con-cept is well bey-ond your men-tal ca-pac-i-ty.

Right back at you, Rachel the Idiot.

BTW, it's not "Your to observant..."

The correct English usage is "You're too observant..."

Perhaps you should go back to your ESL class at the same time that you finish up your remedial civics class.

This still doesnt answer why the newspaper boy is not bound to 3121(b) for the same job.
What was your point to your post in relation to my question about Social Security?
None right! Except to show everyone here you cant follow a question.

[Nikki]

It is more like your inability to read:

(b) Employment
For purposes of this chapter, the term "employment" means any service ... except that such term shall not include -
...
(14)(A) service performed by an individual under the age of 18 in the delivery or distribution of newspapers or shopping news, not including delivery or distribution to any point for subsequent delivery or distribution;

[rachel]

It is more like your inability to read:

(b) Employment
For purposes of this chapter, the term "employment" means any service ... except that such term shall not include -
...
(14)(A) service performed by an individual under the age of 18 in the delivery or distribution of newspapers or shopping news, not including delivery or distribution to any point for subsequent delivery or distribution;

Boy are you TARD or what!
I can read just fine. Its you that cannot read! I already know 3121(14)(A).
This same excluded example found at 3121(14)(A) is also found as an exclusion at 3401(a)(10)(A)(B) for federal income taxes

(10)
(A) for services performed by an individual under the age of 18 in the delivery or distribution of newspapers or shopping news, not including delivery or distribution to any point for subsequent delivery or distribution; or
(B) for services performed by an individual in, and at the time of, the sale of newspapers or magazines to ultimate consumers, under an arrangement under which the newspapers or magazines are to be sold by him at a fixed price, his compensation being based on the retention of the excess of such price over the amount at which the newspapers or magazines are charged to him, whether or not he is guaranteed a minimum amount of compensation for such services, or is entitled to be credited with the unsold newspapers or magazines turned back

The post earlier if you read that far was a reply to Neckbone in regards to John Bultons crappy CtC theory that 3401(c) only includes federal and state individuals which it does not. I gave the above paperboy example to show that John is following an idiots personal interpretive fallacy of 3401(c) because Hendrickson completely leaves out 3401(a) in its entirety when interpreting 3401(c).
3401(a) clearly includes those in 3121(b) employment. Therefore idiot, the term "employee" of 3401(c) includes those mentioned in 3401(a).

[Neckbone]

It is more like your inability to read:

(b) Employment
For purposes of this chapter, the term "employment" means any service ... except that such term shall not include -
...
(14)(A) service performed by an individual under the age of 18 in the delivery or distribution of newspapers or shopping news, not including delivery or distribution to any point for subsequent delivery or distribution;

Boy are you TARD or what!
I can read just fine. Its you that cannot read! I already know 3121(14)(A).
This same excluded example found at 3121(14)(A) is also found as an exclusion at 3401(a)(10)(A)(B) for federal income taxes

(10)
(A) for services performed by an individual under the age of 18 in the delivery or distribution of newspapers or shopping news, not including delivery or distribution to any point for subsequent delivery or distribution; or
(B) for services performed by an individual in, and at the time of, the sale of newspapers or magazines to ultimate consumers, under an arrangement under which the newspapers or magazines are to be sold by him at a fixed price, his compensation being based on the retention of the excess of such price over the amount at which the newspapers or magazines are charged to him, whether or not he is guaranteed a minimum amount of compensation for such services, or is entitled to be credited with the unsold newspapers or magazines turned back

The post earlier if you read that far was a reply to Neckbone in regards to John Bultons crappy CtC theory that 3401(c) only includes federal and state individuals which it does not. I gave the above paperboy example to show that John is following an idiots personal interpretive fallacy of 3401(c) because Hendrickson completely leaves out 3401(a) in its entirety when interpreting 3401(c).
3401(a) clearly includes those in 3121(b) employment. Therefore idiot, the term "employee" of 3401(c) includes those mentioned in 3401(a).

Did you have a point with your paperboy example? Please explain how the exclusion from SS withholding for the paperboy means that he doesn't have to file an income tax return and report his self-employment income to Uncle Sugar.

Neckbone

Neckbone