notorial dissent wrote:
- Supreme Court said, no difference between paper and coins as far as legal tender (summary).
I see you didn't respond.
- Congress setup a Federal Reserve Note system which attaches a $ dollar amount to each
originally 38 Stat 251, now Title 12 Chap 3
Sorry no definition of a dollar or $.
Worn out ground, I already posted what the Congressional Research Office is sending out to Congressmen on the subject.
This is just nonsense, bank notes are by law currency and legal tender and are equal in value and law.
Are you reading someone's else posts when you are responding?
Who say it's not a note? Not me. It's a non-bearing promissory note, if you don't believe me, here is what the Congressional Research Service sent to one Congress. I think I received a similar reply. Again, going over worn out patriot nut job ground my friend.
Black’s Law, Second Pocket Edition (1996)
Federal Reserve Note
Federal reserve note. The paper currency in circulation in the United States.
The notes are issued by the Federal Reserve Banks, are effectively non-interest-bearing promissory notes payable to bearer on demand, and are issued in denominations of $1, $5, $10, $20, $50, $100, $500, $1,000, $5,000, and $10,000.
There is no such item as “lawful money” excepting that the courts have decreed that the terms “lawful money” and “legal tender” are synonomous. Federal Reserve Notes are, by law, legal tender, which by law, makes them “lawful money”, which makes the above further nonsense.[/b]
You talk about nonsense, you simply strike a line out the Constitution. Congress is give the authority to set the value of money with weights and measures and standards see Constitution. And they have.
Congress has no ability to redefine terms in the Constitution, anyone that says otherwise is having some serious tinfoil hat moments.
- Federal Reserve Bank will not redeem Federal Reserve Notes as specified by statute into "lawfully money" on demand per statute
Wrong again, they will be redeemed for other Federal Reserve notes, which are “legal tender” or equally for coin which is also “legal tender”.
I bet you are going to tell me next you have a flying skittle farting unicorn going around your house. Lawful "money" has already been defined by the Constitution, I don't see where you were giving authority to redefine the term nor was Congress. The US Mint produces money via statutes in the value of as dictated by Congress. Federal Reserve Notes are redeemable for "lawful money" on demand.
Here is what Ensign's office got on the definition of the dollar from the Congressional research service.
Bouvier’s Law Dictionary, 1856 Edition
DOLLAR, money. A silver coin of the United States of the value of one hundred
cents, or tenth part of an eagle.
2 . It weighs four hundred and twelve and a half grains. Of one thousand parts,
nine hundred are of pure silver and one hundred of alloy. Act of January 18,
1837, ss. 8 & 9, 4 Sharsw. Cont. of Story’s L. U.S. 2523, 4; Wright, R. 162.
Blacks Law Dictionary, 7th Edition (current edition)
(No definition for “dollar” or “cent” found)
Ballentine’s Law Dictionary, 3rd Edition (1969) definition:
dollar. The legal currency of the United States ; State v Downs, 148 Ind 324, 327 ; the unit of money consisting of one hundred cents . The aggregate of specific coins which add up to one dollar. 36 Am Jlst Money A§ 8. In the
absence of qualifying words, it cannot mean promissory notes, bonds, or other evidences of debt. 36 AM Jlst Money A§ 8.
You are going over worn out ground unicorn flying ground. All of this was posted already.
- IF coinage or paper has valve outside of the stamped amount than all entities would have to keep track of the exact type, make, year, minted characteristics of all bill and coin types.
more nonsense, USC 31 § 5112, very specifically spells out what a dollar is. If a coin or currency has more than face value attached to it, then it moves out of the realm of currency and into commodity or antiquity, and in either event if you are stupid enough to spend a $10 gold piece for $10 worth of groceries you deserve what has happened to you.
You say stupid but you are not looking a 5112.
It's one big conspiracy, even the Congressional Research Service is in on it. 31 USC 5112 authorizes the Congress to set the value of by weights and measures. It does not define what "money" is and it couldn't have what money is. And it has set the value of gold and silver eagles by weights and measures.
- Currently no one I know of does this so you just made everyone basically a tax cheat.
unless, you find a valuable coin, in your change, take it and sell it for the numismatic value, this is equally nonsense, as most people would spend the coin at face value, incurring no gain.
Now you are going against the IRS and what they are saying. You really do have an issue. You better pick a position, but you just took the position opposite of the IRS.
You are actually in agreement with what the defendants have said. This is funny as hell.
So far, you have discussed nothing, but rehashed a lot of old nonsense and general silliness. On a scale of 1 - 10, about a -1 on the actual effort scale.
The only one rehashing old nonsense issues is you.
Actually looks like you agree with the defendants on the main issue. Strange.
I mean if you have a problem it seems like you have a problem with the Founding Fathers of the Constitution which was ratified by the thirteen States. Not my problem. It also seems like you have a problem with the IRS since now your position is squarely against their position in this case. It also seems like you think their some type of conspiracy among the various other government agencies and representatives.
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