Another non-citizen sentenced

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Another non-citizen sentenced

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http://www.buffalonews.com/cityregion/story/730350.html

It's deja vu' all over again:
Still denying he is a U. S. citizen or that a federal judge and the Internal Revenue Service have any jurisdiction over him, Richard R. Drachenberg was led out of court Friday in handcuffs to begin serving 40 months in prison for failing to pay federal income taxes.

His wife, Patricia O’Connor, was allowed to surrender voluntarily to serve 18 months in prison. She said she was divorcing her husband and breaking away from his anti-tax philosophy. She also vowed to pay the $217,000 the couple owes.
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Re: Another non-citizen sentenced

Post by Brandybuck »

You've got one group of buffoons saying they can't be taxed because they aren't citizens, and another claiming that you can tax foreigners. Do these two groups get along at the annual Tax Crank Christmas Party? Of course they do! Cognitive dissonance is what keeps these folks going! It's like the Truthers who think it was thermite demolition versus those who think it was heat rays: they all just get along!
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Re: Another non-citizen sentenced

Post by jg »

The magistrate judges's decision and analysis of their claims is found in his report and recommendations at http://www.websupp.org/data/WDNY/1:07-c ... 3-WDNY.pdf
For example:
Even if defendants had lawfully rescinded their United States citizenship and are
in fact “de jure New York national[s]”, as they claim, (Dkt. #6, p. 8; Dkt. #15, attached
Memorandum of Law dated June 6, 2007, ¶3), it is well settled that they remain subject to the
jurisdiction of the laws of the United States. ...
It is also well settled that “[a]ll individuals, natural or unnatural, must pay federal
income tax on their wages, regardless of whether they requested, obtained or exercised any
privilege from the federal government.”...
“Where there is an income tax, the just man will pay more and the unjust less on the same amount of income.” — Plato
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Re: Another non-citizen sentenced

Post by Demosthenes »

I have a bunch of documents from this case. The wife's "wake-up" letter is fascinating.
Demo.
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Re: Another non-citizen sentenced

Post by Paul »

The wife's "wake-up" letter is fascinating.
Translation: Buy my book if you want to see it!
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Re: Another non-citizen sentenced

Post by Number Six »

This couple's legal destruction didn't develop out of thin air. The hydra-headed tax cheat monster can be killed if the teachers of the madness are identified and held accountable. It would be helpful to know who schooled them in their tax protestor theories.
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Re: Another non-citizen sentenced

Post by Red Cedar PM »

Not a US citizen? OK, no problem. I think we can take up a big enough collection here to buy the guy a plane ticket to Mogadishu, let's see how he does there.
"Pride cometh before thy fall."

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Grixit wrote:Hey Diller: forget terms like "wages", "income", "derived from", "received", etc. If you did something, and got paid for it, you owe tax.
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Re: Another non-citizen sentenced

Post by Mr. Mephistopheles »

Red Cedar PM wrote:Not a US citizen? OK, no problem. I think we can take up a big enough collection here to buy the guy a plane ticket to Mogadishu, let's see how he does there.
Perhaps he should read Hale's "A Man Without a Country".
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Re: Another non-citizen sentenced

Post by Colonel_Buck »

Perhaps he should read Hale's "A Man Without a Country".
How did he get off that island to write a book?
What kind of bomb was it? The exploding kind.
How can a blind man be a lookout? How can an idiot be a policeman?
But that's a priceless Steinway. Not any more.