Dean Clifford - Back in Action!

[Rupert68]

Let's not be too hasty in mocking Dean's statistical interpretations. Think of the possible implications to decision making.

I'll give a personal example. I proposed marriage to a young woman in 1977 and she accepted. Since this was the only time I'd ever asked a woman to marry me that's a 100% vote in my favour. Based on Dean's logic that meant that every eligible young woman in Canada would have accepted me. Had I known that at the time I might have given more thought to the wider field of available prospects instead of making a snap decision I'm still living with 45 years later.

45 years? One year less for me and four daughters later... Complete havoc around my house for decades. So that means every house was the same.
My friends agree with me that Rickards Red is the best non-craft beer so that means everyone does.
My youngest (25) daughters friends are evenly split on whether I'm cool or not so 50% of the people are saying I am.
It's fun using Deano logic.

[Burnaby49]

On April 8, 2022, I wrote;

Dean’s Back! Not my Dean, Dean Kory, he’s still MIA but Dean Clifford has a new life! He’s here in British Columbia and runs a bar. I don’t know where but he says it’s within about 60 miles of Kelowna.

Life’s too short for me to bother trudging through two and a half hours of his babbling but someone who has told me the essence. He’s now advising working within the system, he actually supports unions and joining them, it gives the workingman some legal protection. Pretty rich from a guy who, just a few years ago, said all laws were invalid. But he’s given up on his sovereign rebellion, saying how his freeman strategies were stupid and hopeless. He took viewers questions in his livestreams he mocks his old theories when questioned about them.

I watched a bit of the last one and he’s now married with a daughter. He’s still a big fan of Putin.

Turned out that Dean had moved to Clearwater, British Columbia, a small town in the middle of nowhere and had started a restaurant/bar. Unfortunately, while Dean moved to an entirely new life in a different province, he fatally brought the old Dean Clifford along with him. His fresh start didn't include a new Dean trying to fit in and get along with his new neighbors.

He soon came to local attention. On Sept. 24, 2022, a new poster with the name clearwater-resident posted this;

Hello, I had no idea who Dean Clifford was until a couple weeks ago when he decided to run for mayor of the small town I live in. This website has been an incredibly helpful introduction to who he truly is.

Clifford’s campaign has been focused on his beliefs about being a sovereign citizen, but it’s primarily been about pushing his anti-vaccine views and a multitude of far right conspiracy theories.

At first I passed him off as just another moron. Unfortunately I’ve come to the conclusion that he is a major problem for our small town. It is quite unlikely he will be elected mayor, but he does have a few anti-vaccine types that have chosen him as their guru. He has only been here a little over a year. has purchased what is essentially a fenced compound in the middle of town that used to be a KOA. It has multiple residential buildings as well as tents set up randomly in places that appear to be dwellings.

He has a Facebook page currently that is being utilized for his campaign. He’s offended a great deal of the townsfolk with it and continues to spout garbage daily.

I do not believe he will be mayor, but I do not think he will be gracious in defeat. It makes me sick to learn about this guy. And it bothers me that he somehow landed in our small town and seems to be trying to take it over.

This site has collected so much data on him it seemed like the best place to go. I also noticed a recent post on this thread said that they were unsure what town he is living in.

The town he is living in is Clearwater, British Columbia.

His facebook account is https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100085681268323

How do we handle this guy? He is literally toxic.
His compound is incredibly reminiscent of Waco. I feel like he has many characteristics of a cult leader, and he’s known to be dangerous.

I really think we have a problem here.

Please help us.

Eric gave this reassurance on Sept. 24;

With respect to his business:

https://clearwatervalley.com

Honestly I don't see it surviving the winter. The bar/restaurant has limited hours, he has to make mortgage, and a few words dropped in the right ears could see the whole thing shut down because of zoning and licence problems. (See WhistleStop Cafe, Adamson's BBQ, etc for similar examples.)

Cheer up, you only have to put up with him for another year, at the most two.

Dean, as predicted, lose the election. No surprise there. But also, as eric predicted, Dean’s business has gone down the drain, and within eric's two year limit.

Dean’s most recent Face Book posting, from a little over a week ago, was this rant'

Dean's Town
Sept 24

Publicly. I wonder how much c o c a i n e I pay for with this? Perhaps I am paying for the official off the record boycott of my establishment by the District of Clearwater and the TNRD in violation of Section 15 of the 1982 Constitution Act, the Canada Act 1982 (UK) Amendment to the Consolidated Constitution Acts of Canada 1867 to 1982.

I'm certainly funding the c o c a i n e habits of several sitting council members. Bullets that kill Palestinian children? I'm also funding children being molested by drag queens and Directors of Pride organizations who are protected by British Columbia. I'm funding the murder of 13 year old girls being given injectable drugs at government dispensaries against their parents wishes. How many crack heads, pill heads and liberals that refuse to work so they can play video games in their parents basement and masturbate to porn do I finance?

How many anti-Christian activities do I finance, instead of the fruits of my labour, my risks and my investments going to my own children whom it rightfully belongs to? How many people are in the same boat? Speak up.

We all see the people on FB, and elsewhere, who attack me for "taking on the system" based on an article written 12 years ago by someone who is now in jail for sexually assaulting kids, the compliant cowards who are the beneficiaries of what is taken from us. The liberals and communists who hide their own cowardice behind justifying a system that funds their degeneracy.

Anyone who wants to take what is not theirs, from me especially, will get a war that does not end. If you come for what is not yours, what you did not earn and do not deserve, I'll give you a war you won't believe. If there were more people of similar conviction, civilization would not be in the predicament that it is in.

In advance, to all the keyboard warriors, my office is always open... come get some.
Dean C.
President of Dean's Town

Goodness! What triggered this hissy-fit against the town of Clearwater and the ways his municipal tax dollars are being squandered on corruption and the molestation of children by drag queens?

Is it a reaction to this?

https://scontent.fcxh3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/ ... e=6706B9B6



In other words he’s ranting about the hypothetical way his taxes would have been spent had he actually paid them. Since he hasn’t, I assume because his bar/restaurant has failed, his property is up for sale in two days as part of a municipal tax sale.

I doubt he’ll be missed given that his prior Face Book post, on June 3rd, was this;

So, we're back here again are we? Thanks to a post by Maddy BC, sent to me by a few people, I will take the opportunity to address the following:

"The owner of 52 Ridge Restaurant, Deans Town aka Dean Clifford, has publicly made statements that promote hate speech and discrimination against Valley Pride. Their words have created a hostile environment and made me feel unwelcome. I choose to support businesses that promote inclusivity and respect."

Where to start here. Hate Speech, you say? Are facts hateful? Are questions hateful? Who have I ever made feel unwelcome in my facility, Minor Attracted Persons? I'm okay with that. Have I called anyone a Pedophile or MAP? The answer is no, these are all distractions and distortions of reality from people who seem to have a rather pervasive issue with reading and comprehension, as well as honesty.

First off, as to the BBB pictures, the Better Business Bureau is a scam as shown by the story of the famous restaurant, Spago, of Wolfgang Puck that was given a B- for not paying the BBB their extortion fees, yet HAMAS was given a A+ rating by the BBB for paying their $300. It's not my fault that people fall for extortion rackets and scammers.

Now, again, all I have asked is that the organization calling itself "Valley Pride" with a self admitted Executive Director named Kalen Jones that has professed to be behind the painting of the Dutch Lake dock, make their official position known relating to inclusion and/or support versus non-inclusion and non-support of the Minor Attracted Persons sexual orientation within the LGBTQ(etc) "Pride" movement.

I still have not got an answer, but I have received a lot of name calling and "hate" from people, for my hateful questions, which I personally find amusing. I have definitely heard a lot of vitriol from the "inclusive" and "tolerant" crowd, but I have not seen any official answers relating to my valid concerns.

As to whether or not my concerns are valid as opposed to "Conspiracy-esque", I will use this post to update a news feed relating to child sex crimes within the LGBTQ community, which I also hold as synonymous with Antifa, the terror tactic wing of the LGBTQ movement, which cannot be not denied. Where there is an LGBTQ event, there is Antifa.

Now, for those of you who believe that I am singling out a particular movement or group for no reason other than "hate", you clearly have not done your research, as in my original videos from days gone by I could seldom pass up an opportunity to call out the Catholic Church as one giant child molesting club, and I still do. Does this mean I hate Catholics, no I do not. Do I believe that a vastly overrepresented population of child molesters proliferate among the Catholic Church clergy, yes I do. Is that "hate" or "hate speech", no it is not.

Do I think that anyone wearing "Pride" colours is a "Pedophile", no I do not, that is a fabrication and if nothing else, a slanderous accusation against myself, my family and my business, Maddy BC.

To back up my valid concerns, I will kick things off with the magical and fantastical tale of the Executive Director of the North Peace Pride Society who was charged with committing child sex crimes. As the article shows, reported on January 08 of 2024, his Bio was very quickly removed from their website. These things do have a habit of being very quickly removed and buried from the public eye.

I will continue adding hundreds of articles and snippings, that I took the liberty of collecting today, of similar and widespread issues of this nature involving transgender people, drag queens, LGBTQ persons and Antifa members all charged with child sex crimes. The numbers are shockingly disproportionate to the rest of society, and even makes the Catholic Church look like.... "Choir Boys" by comparison.

I have no issue with gay people at all. I have an issue with child predators hiding among them, and nobody in that movement denouncing it verbally, or in deed. I do not think I am the only one concerned, I am just the easiest to attack... due to past attacks of the same nature.
Let the games begin!

Not exactly the kind of posting you’d expect from a small town restaurateur trying to attract local business.

[eric]

A weekend of old memories I checked, and yes that tax sale notice is for Dean's place. Alberta is much more favorable to the delinquent tax payer than BC btw. My predictions for establishments that fought covid restrictions using sov strategies have been accurate. Out of roughly a dozen, I am only aware of two that are still open - Paul's Pizza and the Innisfail Coffee Shop, both within half an hour from me. . One of the most prominent, the WhistleStop Cafe I happened to pass by when it was still open - literally it smelled of rotten food and raw sewage. The Arcadia Cafe (Chris Harrod's fave), which is a short walk from me, shut down a year or two ago except for a one day opening to support the "Coutts Boys". The owner has decamped to Dubai since it is so much more democratic than Canada.
It was a real hoot reading some of the comments on Dean's facebook posts. Quite illuminating, he has made a lot of enemies which can't be a good idea for someone in the hospitality industry. And... since you reminded me I checked up on his brother Darren. Darren from what I can tell was actually the skilled carpenter in the business, Dean was just a labourer. Darren and his partner are still peddling the Dievergent5 method which is a combination of new age mysticism and the classic "I am the administrator of my Legal Name Estate" strategy. Much of their stuff is hidden on Telegram and nothing on Canlii although a couple of court filings which we poor pensioners don't want to spend money to access. https://www.facebook.com/dievergent5

[clearwater-resident]

Hey everyone,

I haven't posted on here since Dean ran for mayor of my town. Well there has been some updates since then.

so I guess Dean doesn't have a business license but operates a business. He doesn't have a liquor license but serves alcohol at his restaurant. He also doesn't have Health Operating Permit and can't serve food, but he serves food. i guess its been that way for a few years now.

A group of businesses in town are getting a bit fed up with him. They have permits, pay taxes, follow regulations. Dean doesn't. These businesses have come together to urge the province to enforce laws. He has already been reported to Liquor and Cannabis Regulation Branch. But they responded and said they don't have jurisdiction because he doesnt have a liquor license. which is wild. they have basically said it must be enforced by the RCMP. to me that means the RCMP should be involved. i dont understand why they arent involved. Anyways we had a town council meeting about this topic the other day. Dean did speak at it, you should check it out.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18HAAzHkWR/

its public knowledge that Dean is operating illegally. I feel like that should be enough for RCMP to act, why havent they?

the town has been going wild over this. there are like 100 people that rally behind dean. they are loud, and create quite the echo chamber. everyone else in town hates him.

after the meeting he has done some serious intimidating. including calling out that asian guy that spoke at the meeting. claimed that he was driving through his property and what he said at the meeting was slander. thing is that guy doesnt even drive. it was someone else driving through. Dean's fan club started harassing the asian guy because of Dean's post. apparently they were making threats and everything. one of the town council members (who is former RCMP) made a public post condemning the threats and said hes gone to the RCMP and those who made the threats should expect to be contacted.

Dean also made a post on the facebook info board that really just seemed like he was trying to intimidate the businesses that have raised the complaints.



Honestly i feel like hes suggesting he is going to somehow retaliate legally with that post. Which i just find silly. I dont possibly see how he has a case. In a weird way i hope he tries to bring them to court so he gets labelled a vexatious litigant in BC too. Maybe that will mean he will move on to the next province. 3 down, 10 to go.

anyways, what do you make of all this? any suggestions on how to handle it? what do you think is the best way to get RCMP to enforce the law?

[Burnaby49]

I'm one of the few Canadians posting on Quatloos and, while I also live in an area policed by the RCMP, I have no suggestions on how to get them to do their duty. After almost 50 years of being subject to RCMP policing my opinion of them is low enough that I wouldn't discount the possibility that Dean has buddies in the local force who give him a pass.

RCMP officers are employees of the federal government of Canada, essentially cops for hire. As a federal operation they have no real attachment to, or investment in, any of the various communities they still police. Officers transfer in for a term then transfer out to serve elsewhere. Since they don't answer to the local municipality they can do, or not do, whatever they want and if they don't want to bother Dean it is hard to compel them to.

Eric lives in a rural area of Alberta and I assume is also in an RCMP regime, perhaps he has some useful advice.

[eric]

Eric lives in a rural area of Alberta and I assume is also in an RCMP regime, perhaps he has some useful advice.

I'm not going to advise on how to get the RCMP to move faster or their shortcomings. In Dean Clifford's case I strongly suspect the RCMP are moving slowly and carefully. So here we go.... Dean's got religion. Not really though, he has just hooked up with a very close knit, and somewhat dangerous cult, particularly if you're an oil and gas exploration company. Time to blow past every Quatloos rule about family and religion and I'm even going to talk about immigrants. Nothing much has happened in Clearwater since the last ruckus, Dean is just being his particularly nasty self, treating everybody who disagrees with him as if he was still a guest of the King and trying to reinforce his status as the hard man on the range. If you look at his friends and supporters it is surprising though how many have Dutch surnames and they all come from the Southern Peace District of Alberta, particularly the tiny village of Hythe. As an example you can take the holders of the mortgage for his establishment, it was owner financed. Or Dean's wife - Hannah Clifford nee Ludwig. Canadians can tell where I'm going with this.

The immigrants come next: Rural Canada, particularly SW Ontario and Alberta have a disproportionate number of immigrants from the Netherlands since just after WWII. There are even some efficient ways for handling estate succession involving Dutch farmers, when I lived in Ontario there were always people looking to buy turnkey dairy operations to sell to Dutch immigrants. The overwhelming number are damn good farmers. Big but here - along with them came a very few incredibly strict believers who were not happy with authority in general. No real problems with that either except from a public health viewpoint and the outbreaks of easily vaccinated against childhood diseases. Enter Wiebo Ludwig. Short summary: Wiebo and his family and a few followers left SW Ontario for Hythe Alberta in 1985 and started a religious back to the land commune. And they went forth and multiplied and prospered mightily, right now there are at least 80 members. Sounds like a lot of peace and love:
https://europeanconservative.com/articl ... ilderness/
Too bad, that from 1990 to about 2010 pipelines were being blown up, people were being shot at and the members of Trickle Creek Ranch, although heavily implicated as ecoterrorists, were struck with sudden cases of blindness.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiebo_Ludwig
Summary - Wiebo and his followers were probably guilty, but how to prove when all the potential witnesses are following some sort of code of silence. The RCMP also botched the investigation, their informers were somewhat useless. I can imagine the local constabulary in Clearwater are saying to themselves "Not these guys again". Oh and how closely is Dean tied to the Ludwigs? His wife Hannah, is Robert Ludwigs's eldest daughter, and Robert (Wiebo's son) now runs the Trickle Creek Ranch.

[Jay759941]

hey first post here found this web page after looking into deans restaurant camp shit hole.

—heres how my mess started with dean clifford and daren. met dean in milner ridge jail back in 2016—wont shut up about freeman on the land nonsense, pitching it to me and some other guys in there too. sounded like it was legit at the time, worst damn mistake i ever made. he gets out mid-2016, says come stay at my place near winnipeg beach, u can work for me—i’m like sure, sounds decent.
so i get to his place near winnipeg beach, me and daren start doing reno jobs—dean’s barely around, always off somewhere. this chick from bc, vancouver i think, is there too—helped him in jail, sticks around a couple months. she shells out cash for a truck and new tools to get his work company going—dean says he’ll pay her back, bet that’s a damn lie, never happened. she pulls me aside one day, says he’ll screw u over, owes me a ton—didnt know til she told me, wish i fucking listened to her. they fight, she’s fed up, says i’m outta here to bc if u sign a contract to pay me. he signs it, she takes off—never heard from her again, prob still waiting on that money.
so after that bc chick he scammed heads home, things seem all good for a bit. me and daren going to work, coming back to the winnipeg beach house, unwinding—watering dean’s weed plants, playing video games, and going to work the next day like normal people. couple months later this alberta chick shows up—one of dean’s brainwashed fans, married, kid with cancer, coming to try get help from him.
so this alberta chick’s there—one of dean’s brainwashed fans—and dean and daren both start pushing her to fight chemo in court with their strawman garbage. they know she’s married, dont give a damn. she sleeps with dean first, then he takes off somewhere for a couple days. after that she starts fucking daren—gets used up bad. court shuts it down, kid gets treatment and lives, she’s left wrecked and heads to that farm in alberta.
this guy from ontario shows up at the winnipeg beach house—gonna lose his house, so dean tells him drive over with his dog. he stays a few weeks, dean and daren telling him to do a bunch of shit in court and paperwork, then daren pretty much tells him go home and try the bullshit dean’s been feeding him. never heard how it worked out, prob not good.
so dean’s talking with some guy out in bc—no clue who, just know it’s tied to his stupid scam and prob a place to stay too, ‘cause i’m pretty sure he was gonna lose the winnipeg beach house. he drives out there by himself, meets the guy, comes back to grab daren, and they both head back to bc. that’s when they ditch me there with his weed plants—leave some food, not much, say they’ll be back in a week, should be fine. no phone, no way to call anybody—week goes by, they dont show, food’s gone. that ontario guy with the dog had bought a bunch of mechanically separated meat for his mutt, packaged it all into little plastic bags and froze it—left that in our freezer when he went back to ontario. that’s all i had to eat, and it was fucking disgusting.
so about 6 weeks later dean comes back to the winnipeg beach house, tells me to pack up all my stuff and help him pack some of his shit up too, says we gotta go. he’s driving me to a small farmhouse in alberta, tells me he’ll be back to get me after the summer—never heard a damn thing from him since.
so sheldon the farmer guy drops me off at john’s place—he’s the cancer kid’s dad—watch out for dean and daren, they’ll screw u blind. i tell john his wife’s been fucking dean, daren, and even sheldon, and he’s damn torn up about it. he loads me in the car and drives me back to winnipeg himself.
so after john drops me back in winnipeg, i’m homeless for 7 damn months—sleeping in a bus shack, glad to be back tho.
so i just found out a couple days ago—dean’s now married to some woman he prob brainwashed with his bs, and he has bought some camp ground and restaurant. and i just recently discovered that daren is now makes youtube videos and is on spotify spewing his shit . i wish i never met dean or daren

[Burnaby49]

Thanks for the story, always fascinating for we Dean followers to get first-hand experiences of being screwed around by him and, as you relate, that's the only experiences his gullible followers get. This thread has been ongoing for eight years and he's never, in that entire time, had a single personal victory or helped anyone. The information on this thread totally discredits pretty much every claim he's made or anything he's ever done yet the deluded suckers keep coming, it's beyond me. I've no idea why anyone would believe anything he says.

For a short while it looked like he was actually going legit with his restaurant here in B.C. but I think he's been hammered by a combination of incompetence and the fact that Dean has to be Dean. His foray into local politics earned him a lot of ill-will and it looks like his business has failed, not that it ever flourished. So you may (I hope) soon see him back in Winnipeg.

[eric]

Just some random thoughts... I'm not going to bother going back through eight years of posts but there was something from a woman in Winnipeg who had similar dealings with Deano - something about promises to repair a house, never did, it was a total slum, finally shut down because he never paid the water bill. The poster talks about working with Dean's brother, Darren doing house renovations while Dean did nothing. Before he shut down his facebook page Darren had examples of his work dating back over the years. He's quite a competent and skilled carpenter, it seems that Dean's claimed abilities were actually his brother's.

Final point, I'm being careful not to go too far down the amateur psychologist wormhole but Dean seems to exhibit classic predator characteristics by preying on vulnerable people. He's not too good as a pseudolaw guru, he just hooks up with the vulnerable and almost anyone can outwitthem. Those just out of jail or having problems with CPS like the poster stated above.

[Burnaby49]

I must disagree that Dean is a lazy bum refusing to do any real work. Dean is a salt-of-the-earth working man slaving at 10-16 hour days doing straight sweat labour while we all sit around on our asses complaining about him. I have it from a 100% reliable source, Dean himself on one of my favorite sovereign videos! It's titled Message To The Real Freeloaders and, while it doesn't show him actually working, he is standing in close proximity to a worksite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pWZ_N803QM

The video is his rebuttal to comments that sovereigns are freeloaders. He said that "Most people couldn't even wear my tool belt for a day" and he sure nailed me with that one. He's strapped everything but a car engine on it and I doubt I could even stand up wearing it. He said that he doesn't pay income taxes because that's his hard earned money but he spends "more on gasoline taxes every year than most people earn". Take that haters! However he does neglect to note one salient point. No matter how much he pays in gasoline tax he's not paying it voluntarily. The tax is built into the pump price and the only way around paying it is to not buy gas. Additionally, just because he's forced to pay one tax doesn't exempt him from others. Not that income tax non-payment is an issue since I'm sure that all of his bombast about how hard he works is straight-up bullshit and this laughably staged video doesn't impress me otherwise.

However the video does support one of eric's comments. The last three minutes show an almost completed framing job on a two story addition to a building which he claimed that "me and my brother framed here in the last four days total on our own". Looks like a damned good job and, since I doubt Dean had any hand in it, I'd say it does a good job of showing Darren's impressive skills as a framer.

[eric]

He said that "Most people couldn't even wear my tool belt for a day" and he sure nailed me with that one. He's strapped everything but a car engine on it and I doubt I could even stand up wearing it.

Any carpenter I've seen wearing that much stuff on his belt would be wearing suspenders to help hold it up. It just doesn't work otherwise.

With respect o his brother Darren. He's not just your average framer swinging a hammer. He had a successful career at one point in time working as a set builder in the movie business. He actually did the carpentry for this one, yes I know it's 2 hours long, but you can skip through if you're bored and enjoy watching a movie that totally bombed.

[Jay759941]

He said that "Most people couldn't even wear my tool belt for a day" and he sure nailed me with that one. He's strapped everything but a car engine on it and I doubt I could even stand up wearing it.

Any carpenter I've seen wearing that much stuff on his belt would be wearing suspenders to help hold it up. It just doesn't work otherwise.

With respect o his brother Darren. He's not just your average framer swinging a hammer. He had a successful career at one point in time working as a set builder in the movie business. He actually did the carpentry for this one, yes I know it's 2 hours long, but you can skip through if you're bored and enjoy watching a movie that totally bombed.

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O Ya i remember daren bragging about how he had a job working on movie sets building shit. he had a wife or a girlfriend he was with for a while and kids i think he was just the step-dad but from what he said they looked at him like their father. And when dean got out of jail he just left everything and came to manitoba.
Now daren is making videos on YouTube and on some other social media platform and he is also doing seminars and charges money for this. if his stupid scam worked he would not need to charge money because apparently he would have access to millions of dollars if you do the right paperwork or so he says . They just can't stop trying to scam people and drag them down with them.