Dean Clifford - A Tale of Two Gurus

[arayder]

Oh man the audio is juicy. Confirms stuff we were only guessing at.

You are right. We had snippets of information including Dean's old racist forum posts that suggested the vegetarian, hard working, truth telling PR version of Dean was just that. . .a false face shown to the public.

This is a more complete eye witness account of Dean's dirty dealings that confirms past reports of Dean as a lazy, dishonest, skirt chasing, racist conman. It sounds like Cari-Lee could give more damning details but just doesn't want to be a "rat".

One has to wonder how gentle she is going to be after what remains of the Dean PR machine tries to drag her and her family through the mud.

I was not surprised at the tale of Dean getting drunk as a skunk and shooting off his punk arse firearms. These are the same firearms Dean tried to telling everyone had been stored away so long ago that he hardly recalled he had them in his possession.

[Wake Up! Productions]

For some reason Annett never got his own discussion although comments about him are scattered around Quatloos, mainly in this discussion. The closest we have to a dedicated discussion for him is this one;

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9139

So if you want to start a discussion just for Kevin feel free.

I do know of one extremely avid anti-Annett poster on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC74lGO ... 978Gxq_adg that would love a forum/thread of his own, however, being new, I would defer to the Quatloos higher-ups before sending out an invitation. As much as he dislikes Annett, he too seems like a bit of a loose cannon.

[bmxninja357]

This is another good site for getting the goods on kevin the con man http://www.genuinewitty.com/kevin-annett/

Peace,
Ninj

[Burnaby49]

I do know of one extremely avid anti-Annett poster on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC74lGO ... 978Gxq_adg that would love a forum/thread of his own, however, being new, I would defer to the Quatloos higher-ups before sending out an invitation. As much as he dislikes Annett, he too seems like a bit of a loose cannon.

I'm not sure what you mean by "sending out an invitation". If you mean having the anti-Annett poster sign up on Quatloos and start an Annett discussion he is free to do so without any involvement from we "higher-ups". We don't vet new members, anyone can sign up and start a discussion. We didn't even stop Pigpot! Speaking of piggy he's been very quiet since he was placed on moderated status. Since I was the moderator assigned to oversee him I'm not complaining.

[Wake Up! Productions]

I do know of one extremely avid anti-Annett poster on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC74lGO ... 978Gxq_adg that would love a forum/thread of his own, however, being new, I would defer to the Quatloos higher-ups before sending out an invitation. As much as he dislikes Annett, he too seems like a bit of a loose cannon.

I'm not sure what you mean by "sending out an invitation". If you mean having the anti-Annett poster sign up on Quatloos and start an Annett discussion he is free to do so without any involvement from we "higher-ups". We don't vet new members, anyone can sign up and start a discussion. We didn't even stop Pigpot! Speaking of piggy he's been very quiet since he was placed on moderated status. Since I was the moderator assigned to oversee him I'm not complaining.

Exactly my point, "pigpot". Although he may be anti-Annett, he may also bring his extreme religious views along with him. When dealing with Annett supporters or detractors, religion is a huge factor. I have not really seen any religious debate here - this is why I defer to the "higher-ups" !!!

[bmxninja357]

Thread on kevin annett started here:

viewtopic.php?f=48&t=10760

Have at it.

Now back to deaner the weiner...
Peace
Ninj

[Wake Up! Productions]

Thread on kevin annett started here:

viewtopic.php?f=48&t=10760

Have at it.

Now back to deaner the weiner...
Peace
Ninj

Thank you. That was all I was seeking. Verification that Quatloos (as a whole) was willing to sustain extreme religious beliefs, whatever they may be.

[Burnaby49]

Religious and political debates are not allowed on Quatloos. Both topics were allowed in the past but this inevitably resulted in flame-wars irrelevant to the purposes of Quatloos. In 2012 it came to a head and managment dropped the hammer on both of these topics and they have been banned since. We even had a discussion about it;

viewtopic.php?f=44&t=8930

I was one of the survivors of the Great Purge of 2012.

Sooltauq "Most Majestic Czar of All Quatloosia" is exactly that; the man who owns and ultimately controls Quatloos. We moderators are just his minions.

[bmxninja357]

The con knows no religion but profit.
Ninj

[Jeffrey]

One thing that stood out. She complains that child services should not have gotten involved with her because her children were fine, but then goes on to describe how she and her children were living in an abandoned crack house smeared with feces.

It is very good to have confirmation of the racism. Confirms Dean was only doing it for the money. Confirmation of the sham contractor business. Some further context for the hydro and utility bills. Mentions people who Dean has put in jail.

Still leaves so many things unanswered. What is this mysterious investor giving Dean money, does he even exist. What is she refusing to "rat on" that happened out west.

[arayder]

One thing that stood out. She complains that child services should not have gotten involved with her because her children were fine, but then goes on to describe how she and her children were living in an abandoned crack house smeared with feces.

A good observation. Cari-Lee also revealed that her husband was at his wits end about the situation in what she called the "ghetto house". It's possible somebody showed up at the house on a bad day and upon seeing an unhealthy mess and a badly stressed out father decided to make a call to children's services. Cari-Lee's recounting children's services eventually closing the case may reflect nothing more than a case worker deciding these were two parents making the best of a really bad situation.

It is very good to have confirmation of the racism. Confirms Dean was only doing it for the money. Confirmation of the sham contractor business. Some further context for the hydro and utility bills. Mentions people who Dean has put in jail.

Still leaves so many things unanswered. What is this mysterious investor giving Dean money, does he even exist. What is she refusing to "rat on" that happened out west.

Cari-Lee left out a lot of detail about the instances in which she says she and her family were tricked and lied to. That may be simply because she didn't want to have a 5 hour long audio as well as her stated reason that she didn't want to get into the the sorted details end up being seen as a "rat".

Again, I can't believe Dean is not going to fire back with his version of the story, especially since it has gotten traction here on Quatloos.

[NG3]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvWuIHVwFKA

YouTube copy of the audio of Cari-Lee exposing Dean Clifford

[Wake Up! Productions]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvWuIHVwFKA

YouTube copy of the audio of Cari-Lee exposing Dean Clifford

Ah, good, Doazic did the full version. I am making a cut down version. Unfortunately I fell asleep in my chair last night while editing it. This woman can put a pack of wolves to sleep with her voice !!!

[Jeffrey]

Maybe I'm paranoid, but after the Cari-Lee audio was posted to YouTube, the Dean Clifford account has been spamming videos to try to bump down the audio:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... e_uploaded

[eric]

Maybe I'm paranoid, but after the Cari-Lee audio was posted to YouTube, the Dean Clifford account has been spamming videos to try to bump down the audio:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... e_uploaded

I particularly liked this "Mister Dressup" clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BysDicuu8c8
I'm supposed to believe some guy is a hard working construction worker, salt of the earth type. Too bad his tool belt is brand new and he's not carrying anything useful for tools. Come on folks - a framer without a hammer? Besides, why carry a drill without a battery and a nail gun attached to you, you're just going to trip over the air line.

[Bill Lumbergh]

Absolutely incredible find, Burnaby.

I recall listening to some of Cari-Lee's shows around the she became disgruntled with FMOTL, hoping to hear something like this. It's so rare to hear from former "insiders" and yet this is the most valuable material out there to keep people away from these scams.

[Burnaby49]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvWuIHVwFKA

YouTube copy of the audio of Cari-Lee exposing Dean Clifford

Ah, good, Doazic did the full version. I am making a cut down version. Unfortunately I fell asleep in my chair last night while editing it. This woman can put a pack of wolves to sleep with her voice !!!

I warned you.

[Bill Lumbergh]

Dean's original appearances on Cari-Lee's radio show in 2011 can be heard here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaN3MpWnAFk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2IEVs_i31k

[Hanslune]

Would the 'secret investor' be his marijuana farm?

[Burnaby49]

Maybe I'm paranoid, but after the Cari-Lee audio was posted to YouTube, the Dean Clifford account has been spamming videos to try to bump down the audio:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... e_uploaded

I particularly liked this "Mister Dressup" clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BysDicuu8c8
I'm supposed to believe some guy is a hard working construction worker, salt of the earth type. Too bad his tool belt is brand new and he's not carrying anything useful for tools. Come on folks - a framer without a hammer? Besides, why carry a drill without a battery and a nail gun attached to you, you're just going to trip over the air line.

I call that the "Muscular Freeman" video. It's my favorite Deanster video. I downloaded it way back and I watch it from time to time for a laugh. Hercules couldn't climb a ladder with all that crap strapped to him yet Dean struts around as if it is his normal workingman tool set. He should have included a skilsaw and a portable generator.