Dean Clifford: Sentencing & Beyond
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Re: Dean Clifford: Sentencing & Beyond
Dean thinks that his newest magical incantations are going to get him out of prison "tout de suite" (Right away).
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Re: Dean Clifford: Sentencing & Beyond
Kinda boring as far as updates go.
Seems judge Martin gave some epic speech at his sentencing totally bashing Dean and his ideology and that hurt Dean's feelings.
We get some indirect info about the website money, apparently it's going towards paying for Dean's beach house.
Also some loose talk about the jail he's in. Think he says they're trying to transfer him to federal but he wants to stay in Manitoba since it's closer to court?
Seems judge Martin gave some epic speech at his sentencing totally bashing Dean and his ideology and that hurt Dean's feelings.
We get some indirect info about the website money, apparently it's going towards paying for Dean's beach house.
Also some loose talk about the jail he's in. Think he says they're trying to transfer him to federal but he wants to stay in Manitoba since it's closer to court?
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Re: Dean Clifford: Sentencing & Beyond
Some low risk offenders can serve a low federal sentence in provincial.
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Re: Dean Clifford: Sentencing & Beyond
REVIEW OF VIDEO:
Having listened to this recording, I really can't wait for the sentencing transcripts ...
- Dean claims he is going to "put an application in for an order for mistrial and miscarriage of justice", as opposed to an APPEAL.
- Dean claims he is a "World Leader in the Freedom Movement" !!!
- Dean goes on a rant about the "international covenants" and "the right to self determination". Apparently Dean is oblivious to the FACT that when the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights mentions the term "the right to self determination", they are speaking about how every NATION under the United Nations Charter has "the right to self determination" - not each individual human being !!!
- At 22 minutes in Darren Clifford mentions, "We're getting our hands on TRANSCRIPTS right away". If this is true, it looks like Burnaby may have been right to wait.
- At the 24 minute mark Dean says, "it might be a WEEK or two before I'm out of here". Holy deja vu - didn't we hear this before 2 years ago, in January 2014 ???
One last thing, throughout the whole recording, Dean kept making reference to "Tom" the "banker" who would be happy to pay. At one point Dean slipped up and said "we might be able to keep the beach house" (meaning 9 Lorna Street).
Having listened to this recording, I really can't wait for the sentencing transcripts ...
- Dean spent his first night (January 8th) on the 8th floor of Winnipeg Remand Center, where they apparently threw him in the "Psyc Ward" with a "suicide bib" on?Man, you should have been there for that diatribe that that idiot [Justice Chris Martin] went off on. He was calling us all "clowns" and a bunch of other sh*t.
- Dean claims he is going to "put an application in for an order for mistrial and miscarriage of justice", as opposed to an APPEAL.
- Dean claims he is a "World Leader in the Freedom Movement" !!!
- Dean goes on a rant about the "international covenants" and "the right to self determination". Apparently Dean is oblivious to the FACT that when the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights mentions the term "the right to self determination", they are speaking about how every NATION under the United Nations Charter has "the right to self determination" - not each individual human being !!!
- At 22 minutes in Darren Clifford mentions, "We're getting our hands on TRANSCRIPTS right away". If this is true, it looks like Burnaby may have been right to wait.
- At the 24 minute mark Dean says, "it might be a WEEK or two before I'm out of here". Holy deja vu - didn't we hear this before 2 years ago, in January 2014 ???
One last thing, throughout the whole recording, Dean kept making reference to "Tom" the "banker" who would be happy to pay. At one point Dean slipped up and said "we might be able to keep the beach house" (meaning 9 Lorna Street).
DEAN CLIFFORD IS OUT OF PRISON !!!
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I been meaning to ask, what exactly is a "beach house" in the context of Manitoba.
I thought that was frozen tundra up there.
I thought that was frozen tundra up there.
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Re: Dean Clifford: Sentencing & Beyond
A private cell where Bubba grabs him by the hair and declares 'you're my beach'Jeffrey wrote:I been meaning to ask, what exactly is a "beach house" in the context of Manitoba.
I thought that was frozen tundra up there.
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Only in winter, which seems to last forever. In early summer you get to enjoy the blackflies, by June or so it's the mosquitoes until first frost. Any water (read slough) that you wish to swim in usually has leeches and by July you get the joy of various forms of swimmer's itch.Jeffrey wrote:I been meaning to ask, what exactly is a "beach house" in the context of Manitoba.
I thought that was frozen tundra up there.
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Perhaps you are joking, but to answer this question, I have uploaded this Google Earth / Streetview image:Jeffrey wrote:I been meaning to ask, what exactly is a "beach house" in the context of Manitoba.
I thought that was frozen tundra up there.
For some strange reason, Google has mislabelled "Lorna Street" as "Lorne Street".
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Not sure where in the vast lands of Quatloos I should post this so I will plop it here:
https://i.imgur.com/2nETQ5P.jpg
FMOLT doesn't make it onto the map but 'Maritime law" does.
https://i.imgur.com/2nETQ5P.jpg
FMOLT doesn't make it onto the map but 'Maritime law" does.
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Re: Dean Clifford: Sentencing & Beyond
Is there a way to find out from the Manitoba courts that someone has ordered a particular set of transcripts?Wake Up! Productions wrote: - At 22 minutes in Darren Clifford mentions, "We're getting our hands on TRANSCRIPTS right away". If this is true, it looks like Burnaby may have been right to wait.
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I'm sure Dean and Bro will produce another audio stating quite clearly when they've got the transcripts.RaccoonMother wrote:Is there a way to find out from the Manitoba courts that someone has ordered a particular set of transcripts?
If nothing else, the OPCA crowd are quite good at documenting their activities.
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From what little I know, you apparently find that out by requesting a price quote.RaccoonMother wrote:Is there a way to find out from the Manitoba courts that someone has ordered a particular set of transcripts?Wake Up! Productions wrote: - At 22 minutes in Darren Clifford mentions, "We're getting our hands on TRANSCRIPTS right away". If this is true, it looks like Burnaby may have been right to wait.
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Re: Dean Clifford: Sentencing & Beyond
I was there for a few days last August. It was cold and rainy with high winds the day I visited Hecla Island, but other than that it was pleasantly warm and sunny.Jeffrey wrote:I been meaning to ask, what exactly is a "beach house" in the context of Manitoba.
I thought that was frozen tundra up there.
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Dean thinks he's "going to get out in about a week or two."
My question is this: Is Dean mentally ill, or does he actually realize he's full of shit and is just putting on a show to keep the contributions flowing?
My question is this: Is Dean mentally ill, or does he actually realize he's full of shit and is just putting on a show to keep the contributions flowing?
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dean believes just enough to be mildly diluted. its 90% scam and 10% arrogance. he believes he is such a masterful manipulator that he can manipulate the courts and prison system as well as his internet dupes.
it will always be about money. at the heart is dean, a gun toting doper. like all folks of this type it is always about money. in reality he is a glorified bum. he will never be anything but a bum. anyone he associates with will have there lives turned to shit before they realize dean is a bum. and its only a matter of time before someone knocks his block off which is what happens to most loudmouthed, entitled, lying, racist, drug pushing, drug using, ungrateful bums. personally i look forward to his black eye update. he threatened and intimidated enough folks to protect his scam that sooner or later someone will see dean for what he is and the bum will get his due.
inmate clifford to the infirmary....
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it will always be about money. at the heart is dean, a gun toting doper. like all folks of this type it is always about money. in reality he is a glorified bum. he will never be anything but a bum. anyone he associates with will have there lives turned to shit before they realize dean is a bum. and its only a matter of time before someone knocks his block off which is what happens to most loudmouthed, entitled, lying, racist, drug pushing, drug using, ungrateful bums. personally i look forward to his black eye update. he threatened and intimidated enough folks to protect his scam that sooner or later someone will see dean for what he is and the bum will get his due.
inmate clifford to the infirmary....
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Re: Dean Clifford: Sentencing & Beyond
While I appreciate the sentiment of your post, I do think that it is bordering on (if not flat out) defamatory libel. I am not defending Dean, but rather suggesting that you edit your post.bmxninja357 wrote:dean believes just enough to be mildly diluted. its 90% scam and 10% arrogance. he believes he is such a masterful manipulator that he can manipulate the courts and prison system as well as his internet dupes.
it will always be about money. at the heart is dean, a gun toting doper. like all folks of this type it is always about money. in reality he is a glorified bum. he will never be anything but a bum. anyone he associates with will have there lives turned to shit before they realize dean is a bum. and its only a matter of time before someone knocks his block off which is what happens to most loudmouthed, entitled, lying, racist, drug pushing, drug using, ungrateful bums. personally i look forward to his black eye update. he threatened and intimidated enough folks to protect his scam that sooner or later someone will see dean for what he is and the bum will get his due.
inmate clifford to the infirmary....
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From what I know, and from what the law knows, there is no evidence that Dean has ever been "drug pushing", "drug using" or a "doper". Though it can be inferred, it has never been proven. If you can't prove the words that you choose to write on the internet, it can be considered defamatory libel, which is a Criminal Code offence. I should know, I was charged with defamatory libel (in regards to my ex-wife). Though the words I wrote were said with malice, thankfully I was able to prove that they were actually TRUE. Can you say the same?
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Re: Dean Clifford: Sentencing & Beyond
he manufactured an illegal drug for the purpose of trafficking. he was convicted of this and is currently in jail for it.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Dean was charged with (and convicted of) "production of a controlled substance". Please show me where "for the purpose of trafficking" comes in. As I said, it can be inferred or assumed, but it has never been PROVEN !!!bmxninja357 wrote:he manufactured an illegal drug for the purpose of trafficking. he was convicted of this and is currently in jail for it.
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Just offering my advise based on my own personal legal experience.
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Re: Dean Clifford: Sentencing & Beyond
its an included offense.
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I have not researched this in depth, can you provide a link to some reading material that states what you have stated?bmxninja357 wrote:its an included offense.
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