A lottery that guarantees everybody wins??

[ProfHenryHiggins]

I wasn't sure whether this fell more under MLM or under Sovereign Citizens, but there's a Dave Gray Sr. in Canada who is spewing ads for a pyramid scheme lottery that promises "everyone earns guaranteed." And he's a pastor, to boot.

His known email addresses are:
pastor.dave.christian.ministry@gmail.com
support@11-7to-a-million.com
davegraysr@gmail.com
admin@11-7to-a-million.com (his Paypal account)


So far, his biggest cheerleader appears to be one Tanya Tipton. Hmm.
Her history is pretty scammy from what I can see.


Anyone else know anything about Pastor Dave? Does he have a history too,
or is he a new loudmouth blaring in the void?

[Pottapaug1938]

The words "affinity fraud" come immediately to mind.

[littleroundman]

"Pastor Dave" appears to be one of those "one man band, legend in his own mind" type pastors who runs his own "Pastor Daves' Christian Ministry" (PDCM) website/church online: http://www.wix.com/P_D_C_M/Home

His online "Sunday Service" ran out of steam back in June, according to his site.

His Paypal Donation button is still active, however, and defaults to a $3.00 donation for anyone who clicks it.

"Pastor Dave" offers no hint of where and how he achieved his "ordination into the clergy" and his site displays no permits to run "lotteries" or accept donations.

As Pottapaug1938 put it so succinctly: "The words "affinity fraud" come immediately to mind"

[wserra]

"Pastor Dave" offers no hint of where and how he achieved his "ordination into the clergy"

He does, actually: "ALL the schooling I did was from home by correspondence". I somehow doubt that a real church ordains folks who have only studied "from home".

BTW, I'm sure you didn't know that I'm the Rt. Rev. Dr. Wes. ALL the schooling I did was from home by correspondence.

[littleroundman]

Ah, right, of course,

how silly of me.

I guess that must be where he learned how to become a "Microsoft Certified A+ Computer Technition" as well as a pastor.

[bmielke]

"Pastor Dave" offers no hint of where and how he achieved his "ordination into the clergy"

He does, actually: "ALL the schooling I did was from home by correspondence". I somehow doubt that a real church ordains folks who have only studied "from home".

BTW, I'm sure you didn't know that I'm the Rt. Rev. Dr. Wes. ALL the schooling I did was from home by correspondence.

IIRC in some pentacostal churches home schooling is ok. You have to have other qualifications. But then you aren't ordained rather you are certified to preach. But it has been several years since I sparred with a pentacostal on the subject.