Tax deniers get targets painted on their bums

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Demosthenes wrote:I'm sure a lot more names can be added. Who is peddling Bills of Exchange these days? How about those who are selling levy and lien packages? How is selling UCC schemes?

I've been spending some time in the Moorish Temple circles and I think most people here will be surprised just how huge the sovereign citizen and UCC scams have gotten in the black supremacist world.
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More, please.

Joe Banister
Clifton Beale
Vic Beck
Larry Becraft
Bill Benson
Brett Bork
Dave Champion
Robert Clarkson
Jack Cohen
Chuck Conces
Bill Conklin
Richard Cornforth
Charlayne Crawford
Tommy Cryer
Sam Davis
Bill Drexler
Chris Hansen
Christopher Hansen
Allen Aslan Heart
Steve Hempfling
Pete Hendrickson
Jean Keating
Sam Kennedy
Devvy Kidd
John Kotmair
Tim McCrory
Mitch Modeleski (Paul Andrew Mitchell)
Peymon Mottahedeh
David Myrland
Victoria Osborn
Gordon Phillips
Bob Plimpton
Tom Scambos
Robert Schulz
Winston Shrout
Otto Skinner
Lindsey Springer
Richard Standring
Harold Thomas
Ken Thompson (The Inhabitant)
Lynda Wall
Cecillia A Wilks
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What about good ol' whatisname -- the ex-loserhead who is now a Ron Paul activist?

I could go back and look him up, but that would be too easy.

Also, what about enforcing outstanding liens against people like van Pelt?

Last, how about putting some teeth into the existing injunctions? It's really pathetic that an enjoined evader and promoter can proudly refer to his micro-text copy of the injunction as a victory showing how much the government fears him.
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Nikki wrote:What about good ol' whatisname -- the ex-loserhead who is now a Ron Paul activist?
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John J. Bulten
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I'd forgotten about that idiot. He probably wishes that the ebil JBTs would, too.
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Anyone familiar with Jeff Grage?

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Jim Mattatall. I found his name while poking around the LH forum. Looks like he was enjoined at some point for promoting illegal tax schemes. And it seems like he's still up to no good:
kilbey wrote:Have you heard of Jim Mattatall? He's a tax activist/ law researcher in California. He speaks publicly often. There are videos available from videographer Dennis Whipple. I will give Dennis' e-mail on request.
The reason I thought of J.M. is that one video on the list is called "How to Slam Dunk the Franchise Tax Board". Sounds applicable. Following is the list as sent to me by Dennis, including that video.
The list is quite long, with price tags on a number of them.
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John R. Beaman of the Educate America Foundation.

http://www.w3f.com/patriots/

Okay, he's not exactly a big-time promoter but he's definately a wannabe. I think he should be inducted into the big leagues if for no other reason than to serve as an example to others.

This cat claims that he's told the IRS to blow it out their asses for the last 20 years without any consequences.

Didn't this guy...

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...basically get nailed and sent up the river for a year for publically uttering the same thing?

In case you don't know, his name is Lee Anthony Mroszak (a.k.a "Crazy Cabbie") on New York City's 92.3 K-Rock and a former regular guest on The Howard Stern Show.
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CaptainKickback wrote:Well, Crazy Cabbie, for some of those years was doped up I think and was an idiot for all those years. He also went to jail and freely admits to being an idiot about the whole mess.
True.

However, he did say on live radio that he hadn't paid taxes in years. The IRS was listening and descended on him like rabid rats on a lost toddler.

What I don't understand is how anyone can basically say the same thing on something as public a forum as the Internet and not get the same treatment.
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CaptainKickback wrote:At the time Crazy Cabbie confessed, he was on a specific radio program, Howard Stern, with a huge young (16 to 40) male following in most major radio markets. What are the odds that a young, male IRS agent would be listening? Damned good.

Now, what are the odds of an IRS agent stumbling across the one sight amongst tens of millions (hundreds of millions?) where some a**-clown brags about not paying taxes? Essentially zero.

Therefore, you should not be surprised the Crazy Cabbie got popped, while someone on the internet has not.

You have a point.

I would, however, kindly direct any IRS agents out there reading this thread over to YouTube - especially the tax protestor videos. :twisted:

Speaking of which - it looks like Devvy Kidd is quickly becoming the new TP guru over there.
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Demosthenes wrote:More, please.

Joe Banister
...
Cecillia A Wilks
Thomas Freed

I stumbled upon a site selling a book that seems to endorse the 861 argument.
http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book ... 95-47641-4

Edit:

Gordon Epperly

While I didn't see his name on any of the pages on this site, a whois search shows him as the owner. I have not performed any research beyond that.

Edit again:

It is Epperly and not Epperley. :oops:
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A "googol" search on "income tax Thomas Freed" brought me to Tax-Freedom.com, which is an SAP website. There's a link to his book, "The Simple Truth About Income Tax."

That appears to be his only involvement. Whois gives no information.

Pacer shows ten cases:
Bankruptcy Cases
Name Court Case No. Filed Chapter
1 FREED, THOMAS debke 00-01098 02/17/2000 11
2 FREED, THOMAS A. insbke 02-07149 04/25/2002 7
3 FREED, THOMAS JOHN mnbke 98-33057 05/19/1998 7
4 FREED, THOMAS M. mdbke 05-23706 06/14/2005 13
5 FREED, THOMAS M. mdbke 01-63886 09/10/2001 13

Civil Cases
Name Court Case No. Filed NOS Closed
6 FREED, THOMAS A iddce 1:1996cv00004 01/03/1996 550 09/04/1996
7 FREED, THOMAS A iddce 1:1996cv00005 01/03/1996 550 09/04/1997
8 FREED, THOMAS A iddce 1:1996cv00069 02/22/1996 530 11/12/1996
9 FREED, THOMAS A iddce 1:1996cv00100 03/04/1996 530 03/14/1996
10 FREED, THOMAS G, JR wydce 1:2006cv00281 11/28/2006 360 09/05/2007
Not sure which might be the Thomas Freed listed here.

No cases for Gordon Epperley. The following for Gordon Epperly:
Civil Cases
Name Court Case No. Filed NOS Closed
1 EPPERLY, GORDON W. cofce 1:1995cv00281 04/07/1995 134 04/25/1995
2 EPPERLY, GORDON W. dcdce 1:1989cv00674 03/14/1989 440 05/02/1989
3 EPPERLY, GORDON W. dcdce 1:1990cv01103 05/10/1990 190 05/15/1990
4 EPPERLY, GORDON WARREN akdce 1:2006cv00008 04/03/2006 440 04/17/2006
5 EPPERLY, GORDON WARREN akdce 1:2007cv00011 06/11/2007 890 12/27/2007
6 EPPERLY, GORDON WARREN akdce 1:1997cv00025 09/03/1997 890 03/05/1998
Need more information.

A "googol" search on Gordon Epperly yields this decision, Ninth Circuit Decision in 1992. Appears to have claimed nonresident alien status. And, all over a $500 frivolous penalty.

14th Amendment and FRB arguments Gordon Epperly in the Alaskan District Court.
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U.S. Says It Will Increase Efforts Against ‘Tax Defiers’

April 9, 2008 - New York Times

If you think paying taxes is unfair, illegal or unconstitutional, then watch out — the Justice Department is after you.

Just as the Internal Revenue Service is getting into its perennial tax-season tough talk, Justice Department officials weighed in Tuesday with a vow to ramp up efforts against “tax defiers.”

A tax defier is not a wealthy individual who buys a sophisticated tax shelter in a fraudulent effort to shield legitimate income from taxes. Nor is a defier a taxpayer who has a difference of opinion with the I.R.S. over deductions, or one who challenges specific tax policies enacted by Congress.

A tax defier, according to a Justice Department statement, is someone who “seeks to deny and defy the fundamental validity of the tax laws.”

“The tax defier is someone who rejects the legal foundation of the tax system, despite decades of legal precedent upholding the system’s constitutional and statutory validity, and who takes specific and concrete action to violate the law,” the department’s statement said.

Such people were once more commonly known as tax protesters. A spokesman for Justice said Tuesday that the department official who announced the new program, Nathan J. Hochman, the assistant attorney general for the tax division, “is calling them defiers because he feels ‘protesters’ implies constitutionally protected rights.”

Prominent among them is the actor Wesley Snipes, who was convicted in February by a federal jury on several tax-related charges but was acquitted of more serious tax charges. Mr. Snipes was found to have failed to file returns or pay taxes from 1999 through 2001, but was acquitted of charges that he failed to do the same from 2002 through 2004, after he said he learned that he was the target of a criminal tax investigation.

The name of the new program — the National Tax Defier Initiative, or TaxDef — was a source of some amusement Tuesday among tax policy specialists.

But one such specialist, the financial consultant J J MacNab, said TaxDef would make “what’s going on in a hodgepodge way into a national program.”

Since 2001, the Justice Department has won more than 300 civil injunctions against tax promoters and preparers; a third of which involved tax-defier activity. The efforts brought in $600 million in unpaid taxes, it said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/09/busin ... f=business
Transcript of Nathan J. Hochman, Tax Division's Assistant Attorney General announcing creation of the National Tax Defier Initiative.
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Demosthenes wrote:Devvy Kidd
Looks like she's now writing for USA Tomorrow (http://www.usa-tomorrow.com/), which is supposed to be some kind of free "newspaper".

Tedd Peck also wrote about the Morans' victory in said publication recently. Well, that's a bit of a stretch. It looks like a carbon copy of the story he had on newswithviews.com from four months earlier (posted here). Perhaps USA Tomorrow should rename themselves to USA Reprinted-Stuff-From-Four-Months-Ago.
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Demosthenes wrote:I'm sure a lot more names can be added. Who is peddling Bills of Exchange these days? How about those who are selling levy and lien packages? How is selling UCC schemes?

I've been spending some time in the Moorish Temple circles and I think most people here will be surprised just how huge the sovereign citizen and UCC scams have gotten in the black supremacist world.
That's not surprising to me at all. I just got back from having a conversation with someone on YouTube who has chugged that particular brand of Kool-Aid.

Mr. M - I do believe you remember our good friend chelle315.
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Demosthenes wrote:I'm sure a lot more names can be added. Who is peddling Bills of Exchange these days? How about those who are selling levy and lien packages? How is selling UCC schemes?
Tim Turner out of Alabama and Kevin Hines out of Texas.

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webhick wrote:Sounds like a thankless job to me.

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Doktor Avalanche wrote:
Demosthenes wrote:I'm sure a lot more names can be added. Who is peddling Bills of Exchange these days? How about those who are selling levy and lien packages? How is selling UCC schemes?

I've been spending some time in the Moorish Temple circles and I think most people here will be surprised just how huge the sovereign citizen and UCC scams have gotten in the black supremacist world.
That's not surprising to me at all. I just got back from having a conversation with someone on YouTube who has chugged that particular brand of Kool-Aid.

Mr. M - I do believe you remember our good friend chelle315.
Unfortunately. chelle quickly advanced to my ignore list, fast enough that I didn't realize he was part of the B.S. world.