Fixed it for you.ashlynne39 wrote:Dr. Caligari wrote:More legal brilliance from Skankbeat:
Skankbeat wrote:The US Code only contains law where it is rooted in common law or constitution law. All other statutes in the code are not law. Those who want to control you would like you to believe everything that Congress passes is law so that you will consent to its jurisdiction. Word games are played with the term "law" to obfuscate what is and what is not law. Be aware of this.
It would be helpful if Skankbeat could put out some sort of directory of laws that he hasn't broken and agrees with and those that he has broken or intends to break.
The legal stylings of skankbeat
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I'm hoping the laws regarding the speed at which we can operate motor vehicles are open to dispute!ashlynne39 wrote:
It would be helpful if Skankbeat could put out some sort of directory of laws that are really laws and those that we can ignore because they don't count.
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I have no doubt he's had many victories in "common law" courts.The Observer wrote:And not surprising, skankie fakes to deliver what Pete asked for, but manages to lecture Pete and Doreen for failing to listen to him earlier. What skankie is hoping is that no one asks him about how many successes he has had with his method of "remedy" in court.
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SkankBeat is now quoting the eminent legal scholar, Paul Andrew Mitchell.
http://www.losthorizons.com/phpBB/viewt ... 989b#25538
http://www.losthorizons.com/phpBB/viewt ... 989b#25538
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What a coincidence - I was thinking just this morning about PAM and wondering whatever happened to him.Famspear wrote:SkankBeat is now quoting the eminent legal scholar, Paul Andrew Mitchell.
http://www.losthorizons.com/phpBB/viewt ... 989b#25538
In any event, this goes to prove that birds of a feather flock together.
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That's a very polite notice of arrest. Now, I wonder how the actual physical arrest went?Famspear wrote:SkankBeat is now quoting the eminent legal scholar, Paul Andrew Mitchell.
http://www.losthorizons.com/phpBB/viewt ... 989b#25538
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The Great PAM filed a complaint for criminal defamation against Yours Truly with the Orange County Sheriff's Department, circa. 2003. And so it was that one day I got a call from a deputy who could barely keep from bursting out laughing as he inquired what the dispute was all about. Of course, it came to exactly nothing other than one very amused OC deputy.
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Imalawman wrote:That's a very polite notice of arrest. Now, I wonder how the actual physical arrest went?Famspear wrote:SkankBeat is now quoting the eminent legal scholar, Paul Andrew Mitchell.
http://www.losthorizons.com/phpBB/viewt ... 989b#25538
Here's the warrant for the citizen's arrest http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/nordbrok/arreswar.htm
Here's his website with the whole case
http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/nordbrok/index.htm
I'm completely fascinated by this. Does he call Condit "Sir Condit" because he's a bar member? Is there a link here where you guys have discussed Mitchell in the past? What's his deal other than craziness?
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From http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/nordbrok/arreswar.htm
Is that actually a job? Does it pay well? Where do I apply?
Is he really?
What? Can anyone explain?
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WTF He's a website? Or does that have some super secret meaning I am not aware of?I, Paul Andrew Mitchell, Sui Juris,
Shouldn't that be state of ArizonaCitizen of Arizona state,
Federal Witness,
Is that actually a job? Does it pay well? Where do I apply?
Counselor at Law,
Is he really?
Private Attorney General,
What? Can anyone explain?
Was he really? Ok I am running for the house of representatives for the sixth district of Tennessee.and Candidate for the United States House of Representatives,
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bmielke wrote:From http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/nordbrok/arreswar.htm
WTF He's a website? Or does that have some super secret meaning I am not aware of?I, Paul Andrew Mitchell, Sui Juris,
Shouldn't that be state of ArizonaCitizen of Arizona state,
Federal Witness,
Is that actually a job? Does it pay well? Where do I apply?
Counselor at Law,
Is he really?
Private Attorney General,
What? Can anyone explain?
Was he really? Ok I am running for the house of representatives for the sixth district of Tennessee.and Candidate for the United States House of Representatives,
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If you read his summary on this page, you'll see that he founded the "Supreme Law Firm" and "Supreme Law School" so I assume counselor at law has something to do with that. I'm guessing it's his badge of pride that he's not a real attorney with bar membership because then he'd have to have "Sir" in front of his name.
Here's the really fun part though. All his cases and case documents are found here:
http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/
From what I can tell from this document though, even with all the "legal work" he's doing, he's not actually getting paid
http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/nordbrok/rebuttal.htm
Fun reading. Where is this guy now? Anyone know?
http://www.supremelaw.org/press/rels/nordbwin.htm
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Is PAM still doing stuff?
Most of his stuff is dated 1996-1997 with some cases coming from 2000-2002.
He seems to move around a lot. I did not look at his forum.
Most of his stuff is dated 1996-1997 with some cases coming from 2000-2002.
He seems to move around a lot. I did not look at his forum.
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bmielke wrote:Is PAM still doing stuff?
Most of his stuff is dated 1996-1997 with some cases coming from 2000-2002.
He seems to move around a lot. I did not look at his forum.
Here's a fun website called "Who is Paul Andrew Mitchell"
http://www.paulandrewmitchell.com/
apparently he's not a counselor at law anymore. now he's a private attorney general. that sounds much more important
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Still the most recent document is from 2003. I know we have talked about him before but it seems like he might not be active anymore.ashlynne39 wrote:bmielke wrote:Is PAM still doing stuff?
Most of his stuff is dated 1996-1997 with some cases coming from 2000-2002.
He seems to move around a lot. I did not look at his forum.
Here's a fun website called "Who is Paul Andrew Mitchell"
http://www.paulandrewmitchell.com/
apparently he's not a counselor at law anymore. now he's a private attorney general. that sounds much more important
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No, he is. If you google him there is recent stuff. Here is an essay he wrote in March, titled "Citizenship for Dummies." The irony of course is in the title.bmielke wrote:Still the most recent document is from 2003. I know we have talked about him before but it seems like he might not be active anymore.ashlynne39 wrote:bmielke wrote:Is PAM still doing stuff?
Most of his stuff is dated 1996-1997 with some cases coming from 2000-2002.
He seems to move around a lot. I did not look at his forum.
Here's a fun website called "Who is Paul Andrew Mitchell"
http://www.paulandrewmitchell.com/
apparently he's not a counselor at law anymore. now he's a private attorney general. that sounds much more important
http://tekgnosis.typepad.com/tekgnosis/ ... -1964.html
This has nothing to do with income taxes but I just thought it was funny - here is a link to a memo Mitchell sent Hugo Chavez explaining the 1st Amendment and how Pat Robertson can't be extradited:
http://bellaciao.org/en/spip.php?article8890
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No, he is. If you google him there is recent stuff. Here is an essay he wrote in March, titled "Citizenship for Dummies." The irony of course is in the title.bmielke wrote:Still the most recent document is from 2003. I know we have talked about him before but it seems like he might not be active anymore.ashlynne39 wrote:bmielke wrote:Is PAM still doing stuff?
Most of his stuff is dated 1996-1997 with some cases coming from 2000-2002.
He seems to move around a lot. I did not look at his forum.
Here's a fun website called "Who is Paul Andrew Mitchell"
http://www.paulandrewmitchell.com/
apparently he's not a counselor at law anymore. now he's a private attorney general. that sounds much more important
http://tekgnosis.typepad.com/tekgnosis/ ... -1964.html
And a wiki entry on him under what is apparently his real name
http://www.wikitruth.info/index.php?tit ... _Modeleski
This has nothing to do with income taxes but I just thought it was funny - here is a link to a memo Mitchell sent Hugo Chavez explaining the 1st Amendment and how Pat Robertson can't be extradited:
http://bellaciao.org/en/spip.php?article8890[/quote]
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I was one of the PAM v. AOL defendants and I received many of the same absurd notices. His supposed service was well past the statute of limitations and the so-called private attorney general had not the faintest clue how to proceed in court. I can't claim any credit for his self-inflicted epic fail but I can thank PAM for introducing me to Quatloos (via ENM and the Supreme Gall mailing list) which has become my daily addiction.sooltauq wrote:The Great PAM filed a complaint for criminal defamation against Yours Truly with the Orange County Sheriff's Department, circa. 2003. And so it was that one day I got a call from a deputy who could barely keep from bursting out laughing as he inquired what the dispute was all about. Of course, it came to exactly nothing other than one very amused OC deputy.
I am convinced that hizzonor is certifiably insane and if he shows up on my doorstep you will have to read about it in the police blotter. At very least one of us will lose some teeth.
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"Sui juris" actually does have a real meaning. It is a phrase used to describe someone who is legally responsible for their own actions, and can sue and be sued in court. A legally competent adult is sui juris, but a minor, or someone who has been adjudicated incompetent, is not.bmielke wrote:WTF He's a website? Or does that have some super secret meaning I am not aware of?PAM wrote:I, Paul Andrew Mitchell, Sui Juris,
Which shows just how wrong PAM can be, because he's only six words into the affidavit, and he's wrong about both his name and his status.
No.bmielke wrote:PAM wrote:Counselor at Law,
Is he really?
No, no one can explain.bmielke wrote:PAM wrote:Private Attorney General,
What? Can anyone explain?
"Private attorney general" is a phrase that does appear in some court decisions. It's a phrase used to explain why someone who has litigated an issue somewhat for their own benefit, but mainly served the public interest, should get reimbursed for the payment of legal fees. See, for example, Newman v. Piggie Park Enterprises, Inc., 390 US 400 (1968).
Of course, the "private attorney general" status is something conferred by Congress or the courts and you can't declare yourself to be one. And the theory only works in areas that Congress or the courts have recognized as important to the public interest, such as civil rights and environmental protection. And you can't be compensated for legal fees when you're acting pro se and representing yourself.
Other than those piddling little details, PAM is spot on.
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bmielke wrote:PAM wrote:Private Attorney General,
What? Can anyone explain?
Actually, terrifyingly even, there were some laws written a few years, actually a good number of years now, ago that included a clause saying that a private citizen could, under these laws, act as a "Private attorney general" for the purposes of these laws in filing charges against the offender, usually in the case of a citizen filing a complaint against a big business violation of these statutes so that it could proceed through the courts. I am too lazy, to look them up again, but they were very specific and ONLY applied to those particular actions. PAM being the delusional, here words fail me, that he is, decided that he could assume the title for whatever imaginary slight he was tilting at currently. It is rather like his claim of being a "Federal witness", something that I am not sure he has ever truly been, except maybe in the imaginary court room in his head. In any event, they, like his assumption of "Counselor at Law", are just assumptions on his part and purely and completely fantasy.
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I may be wrong (it happens) or overly picky (more common), but I don't think that Congress has ever enacted a statute using the words "private attorney general."notorial dissent wrote:Actually, terrifyingly even, there were some laws written a few years, actually a good number of years now, ago that included a clause saying that a private citizen could, under these laws, act as a "Private attorney general" for the purposes of these laws
I think that the phrase is used in Congressional committee reports, and in court opinions, to explain why Congress has decided to allow reimbursements for legal fees in certain kinds of cases. It's really a kind of a metaphor for a particular policy objective, that of allowing private individuals acts as enforcers of laws for the benefit of the general public.
California has used the phrase in at least one of its statutes, and perhaps other states have as well.
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