Random Freemanesque Babblings II: Back to the Futile

[Albert Haddock]

I think it's going to be a segment on Morning Live, BBC1, 9.30am, just seen a trailer for it.

Angle is mostly based on energy theft. Touched briefly on "you already pay through income tax" but is was mainly reported as a scam.

What I saw of the trailer seemed to be talking about the danger of tinkering with gas installations.

[AnOwlCalledSage]

What I saw of the trailer seemed to be talking about the danger of tinkering with gas installations.

It was in two parts. The first was all about gas explosions and it being dangerous. The second was the investigation. Video call with Kayles to set up the engineer, and the engineer turning up.

Kayles went with the "you've already paid it through income tax" angle. Paul the engineer arrived and on camera told her she'd get free electricity and should cancel any direct debits. Obviously the producer backed out before the meter was actually fitted and when confronted Paul denied ever saying that she'd get free electricity after saying on camera that she'd get free electricity. The group didn't respond to BBC right of reply approaches.

Without knowing the "laws don't apply to us" aspect, it came over as an investigation of a dangerous scam exploiting the "cost of living crisis". We know that that is one angle of it, but any amount of time in the groups reveals the old FotLer underpinnings.

*For non-UK readers the reporter was Zara McDermott who was in last year's Strictly Come Dancing. She went out in Halloween week.

[aesmith]

Just watched it, it's available on Iplayer. I suspect the group won't be happy what with the group "Free Energy Nationwide" being specifically mentioned, and video footage of Kayles herself as well as one of their engineers by the name of Paul.

The two segments start at roughly 10 minutes, then at 34 minutes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m ... 6-16122024

[YiamCross]

Who'd a guessed that messing around with gas and electricity supplies could be dangerous? Still, no victim, no crime so it's all good.

[CrankyBoomer]

I've just had to make a hard decision to let my elderly she-cat be "put to sleep" - though she was in cattery while I'm in care after my accident. She'd had bad kidneys all the time I'd had her (she was a rescue) and it seems that the cold got to her (though the cattery is heated). She'd been in the vet's for a couple of days. They had stabilised her temperature but her kidneys weren't functioning. Still by the time they diagnose renal failure in cats the kidneys have lost 75% functionality. She's been working with 1/4 power kidneys for years and I think it caught up on her. I still feel very low - old women and their cats, eh.

It's hard to know what to do to try and help these freemen folks. I used to know someone who drank too much (not a freeman on the land admittedly) and there was no helping him - but if folk don't want to be helped what can you do?

[mufc1959]

I'm so sorry to hear that. Our pets become part of the family and, although it's hard to let them go, it's a responsibility we take on when we invite a pet into our home. Your cat isn't in pain anymore, and I hope your sadness soon fades and that the cat-shaped hole in your heart will be filled at some point in the future with another cat who needs your love and care.

[CrankyBoomer]

Thanks mufc. I was still very upset when I posted about my cat. The renal condition had not been noticed when I first took her on.. I don't recall precisely when it was first diagnosed. Kidney failure is something that tends not to be noticed in cats until it is far along so it is something that creeps up gradually and you don't know you've got a cat with a renal problem until symptoms start to manifest. I had an accident last year so I don't know how I will be disposed vis-a-vis my health regarding taking on another cat.

[longdog]

Sorry for your loss and Rest In Peace Moggy.

[Pottapaug1938]

Moggy once again has the energy of a kitten. Moggy is now where the dogs, mice, rats, squirrels etc. are clumsy and slow of foot, where there are always warm sunbeams to enjoy, and where skritches under the chin and behind the ears, kitty toys, and kitty treats are available at any time. Littermates are always available for company and play, as are humans.

[SpearGrass]

I'm sorry to hear that CB, I think few things are more distressing than losing a pet who relies on us and looks up to us (not that I suppose cats do the latter very much, or at least won't t admit to it).

However I'm callously moving on to fotlery things to ask, does anyone know whence comes 'without vexation, frivolity or ill will'? What particular magick are they supposed to bestow?

I've also seen a few people who decided it was OK to use synonyms, and turned it into 'without vexation, merriment, etc' And the Bernician decided that throwing a few more words into the soup would improve it: 'Without malice, mischief, ill will, frivolity or vexation, in sincerity and honour'.

[John Uskglass]

Vexatious, Frivolous or In Bad Faith Action Law and Legal Definition

"Frivolous action is one that is groundless with little prospect of success; often brought to embarrass or annoy the defendant; whereas "vexatious has both a subjective and objective element; subjectively the government must have acted maliciously or with an intent to harass the Defendant; objectively, the action must be deficient or without merit;" and finally, "bad faith is not simply bad judgment or negligence, but rather it implies the conscious doing of a wrong because of dishonest purpose or moral obliquity; it contemplates a state of mind affirmatively operating with furtive design or ill will." [United States v. Ness, 2010 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 33177, 7-8 (S.D.N.Y. Apr. 5, 2010)]

https://definitions.uslegal.com/v/vexat ... th-action/

Our American friends may know more, but it looks to me as if the FMOTL rubric is supposed to prevent their actions being struck out on these grounds?

I don't know why 'ill will' got substituted for 'bad faith', perhaps other definitions are differently phrased? I note that 'ill will' is there in the definition.

[YiamCross]

I've just had to make a hard decision to let my elderly she-cat be "put to sleep" - though she was in cattery while I'm in care after my accident. She'd had bad kidneys all the time I'd had her (she was a rescue) ...

So sorry. Actual tears here, wish there were words that could help but I know there aren't.

[AnOwlCalledSage]

Ian Clifford Stamp is back, claiming he has a $1.5m lien against Dan Neidle at Tax Policy Associates, using er, UCC and probate law

https://bsky.app/profile/danneidle.bsky ... ssi4j3wl27

[TheRambler]

Ian Clifford Stamp is back, claiming he has a $1.5m lien against Dan Neidle at Tax Policy Associates, using er, UCC and probate law

https://bsky.app/profile/danneidle.bsky ... ssi4j3wl27

Thank you for posting that, after days of Tobe Hayden Leigh's depressing drivel it's refreshing to see some really imaginative bulging eye rubbish!

TheRambler

[Burnaby49]

Unfortunately the lien hasn't been prepared properly and is therefore invalid. They neglected to have it signed by an International Notary and a Postmaster General. Details matter in legal documents.