Practical Lawful Dissent FMOTL antics, continued...

[mufc1959]

Here's the article from the Telegraph.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... urope.html

[Pox]

Refresh my memory. What happened on 23rd March 2001 that eliminated government jurisdiction in Britain?

That was the day four nobles petitioned the Queen under A61. Unfortunately none of the required follow up seems to have happened.

The A61 is a road that links Derby and Thirsk. It may have the odd bridge or viaduct ( or something) that someone could petition the Queen under. I'll check the route to see if there are any.

[Hercule Parrot]

Here's the article from the Telegraph.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... urope.html

Which fails to accurately describe the effect of the long-repealed Clause 61 -

the barons shall choose any twenty-five barons of the kingdom they wish.... so that if we... offend .. or transgress any of the articles of the peace or the security and the offence be notified to four of the aforesaid twenty-five barons, those four barons shall .... petition us to have that transgression corrected without delay. And if we do not correct the transgression... within forty days.... the aforesaid four barons shall refer that case to the rest of the twenty-five barons and those twenty-five barons together with the community of the whole land shall distrain and distress us in every way they can... until, in their opinion, amends have been made

So where does the Telegraph get this nonsense from -

The clause, one of the most important in the Charter, which was pressed on King John at Runnymede, allows subjects of the realm to present a quorum of 25 barons with a petition, which four of their number then have to take to the Monarch, who must accept it.

And I think the answer is that their journalist simply wrote what the four nutjob peers told them to write.

[notorial dissent]

I would think, considering the source, well known for its veracity and careful and in depth research, and excellence in writing, did exactly what they usually did, made it up out of whole cloth.

The nobility have always had the right to petition the Monarch, the fact that four of them did is neither noteworthy or earth shattering. They got to petition the Queen, as is their right, and she got to ignore it, as is her right. Done.

In order for the imaginary A 61 to have come in to force the Baraontage, as it specifies the Barons, and no one else, would have had to come together and elected 25 of their number as a committee and then of the committee selected 4 to petition the Queen under A 61, as best I can tell, THAT NEVER EVER HAPPENED.

So our valiant freedom fighters are just criminal lay abouts, and actual rebels committing actual treason, I'm sure there is a dusty old statute lying around somewhere that has been forgotten and can be used, in need of a good arresting.

[grixit]

I suspect these 20 yes/no questions will all be dependant on each other so that question 2 is dependant on the answer to question 1 being a particular way.

Q1 "Isn't it true that common law takes precedence over statute law"?

A1 "No"

Q2 "That being the case isn't it true that I am only governed by common law?"

A2 "I told you it wasn't the case"

And so on. It'll be like a badly written computer program that just steps through the lines regardless of the input and without any 'IF' or 'ELSE' commands.

WATFOR, a version of FORTRAN popular in the mid 70s as a training tool. Normal FORTRAN will bounce any program with even 1 syntax error, undefined array, bad function call, etc. WATFOR will do its darndest to figure out what the programmer meant and if it comes up with anything coherent, it will try to execute it. Which is fine for students, you'd never use it for a real world project.

Unless you were a footler, of course.

[JohnPCapitalist]

And so on. It'll be like a badly written computer program that just steps through the lines regardless of the input and without any 'IF' or 'ELSE' commands.

WATFOR, a version of FORTRAN popular in the mid 70s as a training tool. Normal FORTRAN will bounce any program with even 1 syntax error, undefined array, bad function call, etc. WATFOR will do its darndest to figure out what the programmer meant and if it comes up with anything coherent, it will try to execute it. Which is fine for students, you'd never use it for a real world project.

Unless you were a footler, of course.

Now you've gone and gotten me all misty-eyed with nostalgia. The first computer program I ever wrote was in 1976, using WATFOR on the local university's 360/44. 64kb of core memory and (6) 2314 30 mb disk drives, each the size of a SubZero refrigerator. And don't forget the 3420 mod 8 tape drives, with cutting-edge density storing 1600 BPI on 9 tracks. Ah, those were the days.

[noblepa]

And so on. It'll be like a badly written computer program that just steps through the lines regardless of the input and without any 'IF' or 'ELSE' commands.

WATFOR, a version of FORTRAN popular in the mid 70s as a training tool. Normal FORTRAN will bounce any program with even 1 syntax error, undefined array, bad function call, etc. WATFOR will do its darndest to figure out what the programmer meant and if it comes up with anything coherent, it will try to execute it. Which is fine for students, you'd never use it for a real world project.

Unless you were a footler, of course.

Now you've gone and gotten me all misty-eyed with nostalgia. The first computer program I ever wrote was in 1976, using WATFOR on the local university's 360/44. 64kb of core memory and (6) 2314 30 mb disk drives, each the size of a SubZero refrigerator. And don't forget the 3420 mod 8 tape drives, with cutting-edge density storing 1600 BPI on 9 tracks. Ah, those were the days.

And, don't forget the punched cards.

I, too, first learned to program on a 360, model 40. I don't remember what the difference between a mod 40 and a mod 44 was, but we had a few more disks than that.

[Siegfried Shrink]

Having been active in computer software in the mid to late 60s (ICT/ICL), I feel I am one of few people who realise just how bloody marvellous the kit we have now is.
I can't say I do it every day, but now and again I jump in the mental time machine and project myself from the 60s to here and potter about with my laptop that has more memory than every computer in existence in 1966 combined, that can store all the software ever written up to that time in a corner of the hard drive.

So some of it gets used to lure fools to their doom. I expect Gutenberg's second printing job was to run off a few flyers for a snake oil salesman.

[longdog]

Having been active in computer software in the mid to late 60s (ICT/ICL), I feel I am one of few people who realise just how bloody marvellous the kit we have now is.

I sometimes quite miss working on some (not all) of the sixties and seventies vintage 'automated' stuff if only for the imaginative way the builders got highly synchronised sequential actions from a small range of switches, relays and motors. These days it would be a doddle with a simple microcontroller but I wonder if you'd get the same plodding reliability. One duplicator we had had a total dupes counter that had reached 9,999,999 and stopped there. That was before my time and it was still there 15 years later and still knocking them out.

[grixit]

Having been active in computer software in the mid to late 60s (ICT/ICL), I feel I am one of few people who realise just how bloody marvellous the kit we have now is.
I can't say I do it every day, but now and again I jump in the mental time machine and project myself from the 60s to here and potter about with my laptop that has more memory than every computer in existence in 1966 combined, that can store all the software ever written up to that time in a corner of the hard drive.

So some of it gets used to lure fools to their doom. I expect Gutenberg's second printing job was to run off a few flyers for a snake oil salesman.

Actually, Gutenberg wanted only Bibles, classic literature, and other highbrow items. But he was deep in debt and his creditors wanted to do popular literature, pamplets, and porn. They sued him and took over his patent.

[notorial dissent]

Processing payroll on a cardpunch for 5,000 employees and record collections that took one card a field.

[SteveUK]

Someone points out an ex rebel is spreading dirt and calling them racist. The comments are hilarious.



And the squabble, invariably proving themselves to be racist...

More to the point where is the evidence that they don't. Personally having seen first hand the dangers of islam and living in a city where an estimated 5675 children have been drugged and gang raped by Muslims and more than 60,000 throughout the country having watched helplessly while muslims ran dozens of innocent people down in a truck, that and the fact that when they're not to busy drugging and gang raping our children theyre blowing them to smithereens at pop concerts or mowing us down in cars vans or trucks or blowing us up on planes trains and buses or gunning us down in shopping centres theatres cinema clubs bars and restaurants or simply marching through our streets burning poppys and screaming for sharia law while spitting at our troops while after every single terrorist attack our government insists islam is the religion of peace despite centuries of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. I've heard so much crap about the President being a racist but no one thus far has been able to produce on single scrap of evidence to support those allegations.
I read an article the other day where a school had written to parents who had refused permission for their children to attend a Mosque on a school trip saying their child would have a mark against their name to say they were essentially islamaphobic another council threatened legal action against parents in a similar case now i don't know about you but when local authorities try to forcibly indoctrinate kids with an ideology that openly promotes condones and advocates sex with children paedophilia rape religious and racial intolerance inequality murder and violence bigotry & division that scares the hell out of me and if seeing police armed with submachine guns patroling the Christmas markets and concrete pillars disguised as Christmas trees to stop the the Muslims from running us down or stabbing and hacking us to death in the streets if thats the results of a left wing policy then I'm with the president and his right wing policy

Muslims or Islam is not a race so they had to invent a new word islamaphobic. Isnt that classed as a disability tho.

Bet hes a joo boy

Then , god forbid,disssent

I thinks she makes a legitimate point. I'm sure that David Scott of BCG is in some way involved with the Rosicrucian cults. He is stifling the LR movement in Scotland. Eddy Alder is also very quick to use occultist doctrines to create conflict, confusion and bad feelings among fellow members who have better ideas about moving things forward than his peer group. Connor Jason Wilkinson has also been known to lack intellect and use his own narcissistic diatribe very akin to occultist doctrines. He is always on hand to take sides with the long standing members in BCG. He has done this at least 3 times with me. I'm about ready to throw in the towel with this farce of a movement. It was almost 20 years ago that Article 61 was invoked and There is hardly even 100.000 members. It's an epic fail and thats because of the lack of knowledge and determination of the members and administrators!!

Connor Jason Wilkinson you's have been asked on multiple posts for the detail on how many members or people have actually taken the oath and all we get is the same dire occultist doctrines. Ignored in plain English!! We know by the turnout on all of these groups and your meetings that it is very low and many of us know the reason for that low number!! BCG couldnt even get 400 to turn up at the Moot at Nottingham and people who travelled hundreds of miles were treated to occultist doctrines and looked down on as if they were beggars by som e of the key BCG reps.

[rumpelstilzchen]

Muslims or Islam is not a race

To be fair that comment is correct. Attacking a religion is not racism. We criticise footles when we observe them redefining words to suit their own agenda so we should be careful to ensure that we don't do it ourselves.

[Gregg]

Of course, we all know that diversity was top of mind at Runnymeade, King John was hard to shut up once he got on about minorities and the culturally disadvantaged.

[aesmith]

Another Ollie?

https://m.facebook.com/groups/388605611 ... ction_list

David Robinson > ‎Practical Lawful Dissent.

Good morning constitutional protectors.....

I have just received a call from Mark Cole and Caroline Enilorac as the police are at their door with an arrest warrant from the fdake courts.....

I was handed to the arresting officer on the phone PC Brown 4671 who wold not do due dilligence on the spot with regard to Article 61's invocation...she claims that she is doing what the law and her custody sergeant says she must do ...of course

The custody sergeant is 2849 Millier from Bridgewater police station Somerset, where Mark and Caroline will be taken and detained, allegedly to appear before the fake court....seems they wanted to wait until Saturday to do this so that they could keep them over the weekend......they are disgusting.

If you remember Mark and Caroline at the meeting in Birmingham, they were the ones that I pointed out whom had defeated the so called crown court whilst using article 61. It seems to me that they are now intent on targetting us because they have no other way of denying the evidenced truth in law.

I think we need to call Bridgewater police to educate them that they are acting treasonously in full knowledge of the facts since Mark put them all on Notice of his standing and article 61's invocation....a show of support here please guys..

[longdog]

Muslims or Islam is not a race

To be fair that comment is correct. Attacking a religion is not racism. We criticise footles when we observe them redefining words to suit their own agenda so we should be careful to ensure that we don't do it ourselves.

It's at least arguable that there's only one race... The human race. The word 'racism' is problematic because it does give racists the opportunity to say "Ah... But the Jews / Muslims / Irish / Kosovans / Poles are not a race they're a religion / people from a particular country" which is true but bigotry is bigotry regardless and no less reprehensible because it's targets aren't strictly speaking a race.

[SteveUK]

Muslims or Islam is not a race

To be fair that comment is correct. Attacking a religion is not racism. We criticise footles when we observe them redefining words to suit their own agenda so we should be careful to ensure that we don't do it ourselves.

indeed, but I was refering to them calling them disabled........

[Siegfried Shrink]

I must confess to being extremely adverse to false teachers represented by all the gurus who spread nonsense to the gullible. They do not have to show me they are bad peopleby personal aquaintance, to me their actions condemn them.

Should I report for diversity training?

[Hercule Parrot]

Fantastic, another triumph for Robinson's Rebels:

If you remember Mark and Caroline at the meeting in Birmingham, they were the ones that I pointed out whom had defeated the so called crown court whilst using article 61.

The basic background is that the local so called authority attempted to get Mark and Caroline to pay £20K for using their own land for illegal parties.....After a long process they were summonsed to the Crown Court which they rebutted successfully sometime ago...

I was handed to the arresting officer on the phone PC Brown 4671 who would not do due diligence on the spot with regard to Article 61's invocation...she claims that she is doing what the law and her custody sergeant says she must do

So these idiots responded to their Crown Court prosecution with a stupid SovCit "Notice", which Robinson probably encouraged and drafted for them. And because nothing then immediately happened, they imagine that they have rebutted or defeated the prosecution. They have ignored or refused subsequent attempts to hear the case, and the Judge has accepted their demand to prove his jurisdiction.

Robinson feigns surprise that a Police Officer will not accept telephonic constitutional re-instruction from a rambling stranger, but I think the real agenda here is that he knows this is his fault. He encouraged these fools to defy justice, he assured them that his powerful invocations would protect them, he displayed them as successful followers in Birmingham. This panic and bluster is all about rescuing his own credibility, which gets harder every time PLD encounters reality.

[Siegfried Shrink]

The basic background is that the local so called authority attempted to get Mark and Caroline to pay £20K for using their own land for illegal parties.

I think if I were him I would have left out the word 'illegal' since the so called authority with it's so called statutes is not the boss of them.