Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

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Theoretically, the house is vacant. Meter reading is unlikely untill it has a new owner.
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Or come out to remove them since the property is supposed to be vacant, and they have no paying customer there. Actually, if the idiot changed the gas meter, the place could be in danger due to his general incompetence, and they could conceivably be on the hook for any resulting damages. They and the electrical board had oughta be told as a public health and safety issue.
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Dean Renshaw explains the legal position. God know how they dream up this nonsense ..
Dean Renshaw Dianne Katherine Royce from what i have read ,gas water and electric are all ready paid for lol by the bills of exchange in conjunction with the consumer credit act but they won't tell you this lol !!!! Take a read you will also find that in legislation any property with a meter is exempt from charge unless there is an agreement !!!!! Have got an agreement with them ?,peace
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notorial dissent wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:17 pm They and the electrical board had oughta be told as a public health and safety issue.
I did actually think of notifying Southern Gas Networks with a screen capture of his claim, because if true it is extremely dangerous. But as I believe he is bullshitting the credulous I'll give it a pass.

After all if he is telling the truth for the first time in his life, he'll be up for a Darwin Award in pretty short order. :snicker:
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It's the actual opposite of a smart meter - a stupid meter.
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I had a misspent youth, so I know that gas meters contain a regulator which makes sure that the gas entering the property is not at mains pressure. Although you could probably use other methods, fitting a meter is the easiest way to turn the supply back on once you've been cut off (unless they've done it in the street).

Now, older and wiser, I work in a sector where gas safety in properties is something that we are responsible for. The risks from DIY gas works in terms of explosion and fire, which could affect not just R(CB)W's dwelling, but those of his neighbours are such that I would strongly suggest that anyone with evidence contacts the Gas Safe Register to report it.

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Em Ward. She's a total babe. Fully crazy and ready to go the whole nine yards I reckon.
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Crabbie provides an update on this case on his Council Tax is Unlawful Facebook page. Unsurprisingly he reads all sorts of hidden meaning into what he says happened (and we only have his account of the proceedings). But I wouldn't place too much reliance on his reports of secret Masonic signals between the police and the judge, or the judge being so scared of what Crabbie has said that he has to halt the whole proceedings. No, the more likely scenario is that Crabbie's inability/unwillingless/failure to abide by the most basic rules of courtroom etiquette made the judge decide that Crabbie should get some, you know, actual legal advice from a real solicitor and that proceeding with Crabbie representing himself was likely to waste more court time than could be justified.

I also like his closing sentence that he's "not doing this for compensation or money". No, he's not. This is a criminal trial where he is the accused, not a civil trial where he's the claimant.
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Went through all the palaver of the dates where things had to be done by, still no plea entered and as I said all along, I make no plea the jury can decide. Trial put on the warned list and eventually set for a 2 - 3day trial from 26th August 2019. Day one took far too long and was a right joke, friends who were there will confirm. Day two got the police sergeant on the stand, the one I was waiting for. The cps done their bit, then it was my go. Before I go into that something weird and funny happened. Now I’m a bit naive and don’t know about masons and all that crap, but my friends in the know told me at lunch break what happened. The police sergeant as he come onto the witness box gave a signal to the judge apparently asking for help, but the judge dismissed his plea for help. He looked a bit sweaty and distressed, he seemed to be okay going through the cps questions though, then it was my turn. I said hello sergeant xxxxxxxxx nice to meet you again. I asked him 2 questions, after the 2nd one the judge stopped proceedings and put the jury out once again as well as the sergeant. An hour or so later after the judge giving the cps lawyer a grilling the judge called the jury back in and dismissed them. Case closed for the moment. Next hearing 11th September 2019 to see if the cps could come up with a good reason why there should be a new trial.

Guess what happened on the 11th? Yep, after a one and a half hour hearing which lasted over 3 hours and the judge agreed with the cps bullshit for a new trial, lol. New date set for 11th May 2020, and the same judge said he wants to handle the case for the new trial.

I would love to give a lot more details about the case, but I can’t at the moment. And believe me there is so much more to this case than you might believe. But one thing is for sure, if the cps lose this case to a litigant in person they’re fucked and it will open the floodgates, but not just because I’m a litigant in person (I’m not a person I’m a man, I’m just playing the game), but because the case will go down as case law and will help 1,000s of people in similar situations.

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In the comments Crabbie provides a little more detail. But, of course, he's wrong, it wasn't ever about the warrant. It was about (and still is) an assault on police officers sufficiently serious to warrant a Crown Court trial.

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I seem to recall saying at the time that my best guess was the Crabbert had caused a mistrial through his own inability to grasp what was going on and how he had to behave.

I suspect the next time it will be a bit different and he either gets a brief or his nonsense will be given very short shrift.
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Guess what happened on the 11th? Yep, after a one and a half hour hearing which lasted over 3 hours and the judge agreed with the cps bullshit for a new trial, lol. New date set for 11th May 2020, and the same judge said he wants to handle the case for the new trial.
That will be him muddying the waters so much that the judge decided the best thing to do was start over. Having a judge take control (seizing the case) over the next trial is common here in Canada when the accused is difficult to deal with and the original trial judge knows the history. Next time around he'll know what to expect from the start and won't give White any benefit of the doubt.
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And yet, he continues his re-occupation, so for now, he is winning. Hopefully, he's got a go bag ready for the day that ends. Hopefully, he understands that there is no official connection between his criminal trial and his eviction, nothing that stops the bank from chucking him out again and with greater force while the trial still proceeds.
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longdog wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:12 pm I seem to recall saying at the time that my best guess was the Crabbert had caused a mistrial through his own inability to grasp what was going on and how he had to behave.
Indeed. Even his own version of events sets forth that he attempted his pre-advertised on Facebook jury nobbling tactic and the judge halted the trail.
I said hello sergeant xxxxxxxxx nice to meet you again. I asked him 2 questions, after the 2nd one the judge stopped proceedings and put the jury out once again as well as the sergeant. An hour or so later after the judge giving the cps lawyer a grilling the judge called the jury back in and dismissed them.
Of course what I love about Crabbie's strategy is that by demanding his day in court he has turned what would have been most likely to have been a fine and a community order (maximum possible on summary conviction is 6 months) into a possible 3 year jail sentence.
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I could say much more and show video evidence,
Does this mean they've been filming the trial? If so, there ought to be consequences.
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I said hello sergeant xxxxxxxxx nice to meet you again. I asked him 2 questions, after the 2nd one the judge stopped proceedings and put the jury out once again as well as the sergeant.
Odd (not really) he wouldn't just state what those alleged questions were.
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Things may now be coming to a head for Crabbie.

He's posted a couple of recent missives on the Council Tax is all Wrong facebook page "for a friend" but which I think we can possibly read as 'him";
Crab Bait wrote:Asking for a lost friend. Has anyone had any dealings with a warrant of RESTITUTION from the county court. Brief details. Evicted - took back possession - warrant of restitution approved in favour of claimant 6 months after eviction - defendant informed of warrant 4 months after alleged hearing - obviously no signature for liability. N24 General Form of Judgement or Order. Just curious.
And this curious post;
Crab Bait wrote:I should have some info soon to help anyone that's been made bankrupt by the corrupt county courts, or had a judgement against them by the county courts. Using their own rules against them any court orders from the county courts can be made void and annulled using their own rules.
Let me know on this post if you are someone that's been wronged by the county court system. As soon as I have all the correct info I'll send you a template letter to send them, thanks for reading and don't forget the people are the power not the system.
I'm quite intrigued how he's managed to stay in his house all this time after being kicked out and breaking back in. I went to the Insolvency Register and he's still bankrupt so what the above post is all about is anyone's guess.

Of course, as others have speculated the Receivers may just be happy to take their fees from the shrinking Crab Empire, a nice earner for all concerned.

Reminds me of this bit of doggerel from Hilaire Belloc's Cautionary Tales for Children;

"Physicians of the the utmost fame
Were called at once but all in vain
They answered as they took their fees
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Crabby may well be incurable of what ails him but his posts attract quite a following in the comments section, some from the usual boastful bullshit merchants treading the same lines of defiance but mainly and almost uniformly from desperate folk on the verge of repossession, bankruptcy or some other catastrophe in their lives, so desperate in fact that they're willing to take the word of some internet crank and lap up his 'methods'.

I do sense that matters are proceeding to their denouement.
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Crab Bait wrote:Asking for a lost friend. Has anyone had any dealings with a warrant of RESTITUTION from the county court. Brief details. Evicted - took back possession - warrant of restitution approved in favour of claimant 6 months after eviction - defendant informed of warrant 4 months after alleged hearing - obviously no signature for liability. N24 General Form of Judgement or Order. Just curious.
Warrant of Restitution is the legal step to remove someone who has gone back into a repossessed property. Not sure of the technicalities of what is allowed to be done by who, but first time round it is done by bailiffs I think. If the occupant is removed and goes back again it can be seen as contempt of court with all the implications that follow.
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Thank goodness he’s never been a contemptuous sort...
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Is he really stupid enough to think that a warrant for eviction being moved from County Court to the High Court is a good thing? Or is this just another !!!Success1!! for the mupperts on the Council Tax Is Unlawful to swallow uncritically?
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A little dicky bird informed me of a further attempt to evict me again. But it seems the county court have given up and under the courts own initiative they’ve passed it on to the high court for enforcement purposes. If the high court decide to go ahead with the enforcement, it will be interesting to see if the police want to get involved again after their last unlawful actions.
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