Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

Moderator: ArthurWankspittle

longdog
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 4806
Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:53 am

Re: Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

Post by longdog »

AnOwlCalledSage wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:08 pm Is he really stupid enough to think that a warrant for eviction being moved from County Court to the High Court is a good thing?
It's a warrant of restitution and the "little bird" was the postman who delivered it. If he re-enters after the next eviction he can be be jailed.
JULIAN: I recommend we try Per verulium ad camphorum actus injuria linctus est.
SANDY: That's your actual Latin.
HORNE: What does it mean?
JULIAN: I dunno - I got it off a bottle of horse rub, but it sounds good, doesn't it?
mufc1959
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 1186
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:47 pm
Location: Manchester by day, Slaithwaite by night

Re: Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

Post by mufc1959 »

He'll have to get his bail conditions revised, as that's his bail address for his upcoming criminal trial.
TBL
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 276
Joined: Thu May 30, 2019 1:29 pm

Re: Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

Post by TBL »

AnOwlCalledSage wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:08 pm Is he really stupid enough to think that a warrant for eviction being moved from County Court to the High Court is a good thing? Or is this just another !!!Success1!! for the mupperts on the Council Tax Is Unlawful to swallow uncritically?
Robert White
A little dicky bird informed me of a further attempt to evict me again. But it seems the county court have given up and under the courts own initiative they’ve passed it on to the high court for enforcement purposes. If the high court decide to go ahead with the enforcement, it will be interesting to see if the police want to get involved again after their last unlawful actions.
One can only dream that DCBL Ltd. gets the enforcement contract and we get to see a professional production video of the upcoming eviction.
User avatar
Gregg
Conde de Quatloo
Posts: 5631
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 5:08 am
Location: Der Dachshundbünker

Re: Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

Post by Gregg »

Time to go "South Side Chicago" on him...

Image
Supreme Commander of The Imperial Illuminati Air Force
Your concern is duly noted, filed, folded, stamped, sealed with wax and affixed with a thumbprint in red ink, forgotten, recalled, considered, reconsidered, appealed, denied and quietly ignored.
User avatar
grixit
Recycler of Paytriot Fantasies
Posts: 4287
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2003 6:02 am

Re: Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

Post by grixit »

AnOwlCalledSage wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:08 pm
Use of force

The HCEO and his team are permitted to use force to gain access to the property. This may include specialist method of entry teams to gain access via a roof, via other buildings, or by water, as well as the use of locksmiths and even builders, if substantial barricades have been put in place.

During the eviction, the HCEO and his team of enforcement agents may use “reasonable” force to remove the occupants. “Reasonable” will be determined by the circumstances of the case and the occupants themselves.
Oh please, could they hit him with a rolled up newspaper?
Three cheers for the Lesser Evil!

10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2
. . . . . . Dr Pepper
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . 4
exiledscouser
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 1322
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:01 pm

Re: Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

Post by exiledscouser »

Robert White wrote:Final hurdle done. Fitted my own gas and electric meters today so no more bills to pay. EON and the National Grid are welcome to come and collect their property (meters) if they can confirm the serial numbers. I am now free of any utility bills on my home as the legal proprietor. No more electric, gas, water, council tax, mortgage or any other bills to pay. Don't copy me unless you're ready for it
The Crab posted this back in November, almost a 'come and get me' to the cops etc.

Jeni asks;
that sounds like a great thing to do.Does this mean you are taking from the grid still but no one wants/needs your dosh??
To which Crabbie responds
a thief responds wrote:If the cables and pipes are on my property I'll do with them as I please.
Others with a slightly more balanced moral compass are appalled;
Doc Nik wrote:But isn’t it theft to take electricity or gas?
But the Crab has no regrets, observing;
How can you thieve from yourself?
Dean "50,000 Volts" Renshaw is in agreement;
Old Sparky wrote:when you bought you home didn't it come with fixtures and fittings ? Their for you provide your own gas and electric n water the company trying to claim the money is running and illegal business from your premises !!!
Even Shem Allanson chimes in;
Your birth certificate is traded on the markets as a bond. This makes millions for governments. If you are fifty, your bonds are worth at least several million pounds (I have heard). You have more than paid for everything.
Try that down the pub love, see how that works out. Crabbie knows that the cops read his posts, he mentioned being shown an extract in a police interview so either Plod is turning a blind eye to abstraction and theft or he hasn't actually done this and is bullshitting. Enough time has passed for the utilities companies to be able to calculate whether their products are being paid for - or not.

The thread came back to life recently with someone asking how Crabbie is doing. His response?
A parasite wrote:Working well mate, haven't paid for gas and electric for nearly 3 months now.
When he first emerged onto the scene his name was Crab Bait, perhaps this is his idea of a continuing theme, to wind everyone up, I don't know. But he appears to be encouraging others to go down this route.

I just hope no-one gets electrocuted or their house blown-up living next to one of these morons.

Somebody might just ring the Gas Board and tell them that there is a strong smell of escaping gas coming from a certain property..... :whistle:
Hercule Parrot
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 2186
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:58 pm

Re: Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

Post by Hercule Parrot »

exiledscouser wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:07 pm The thread came back to life recently with someone asking how Crabbie is doing. His response?
A parasite wrote:Working well mate, haven't paid for gas and electric for nearly 3 months now.
When he first emerged onto the scene his name was Crab Bait, perhaps this is his idea of a continuing theme, to wind everyone up, I don't know. But he appears to be encouraging others to go down this route.
We're into Tom Crawfraud territory now. Crabby is the new sovcit hero, he's broken out of the matrix, the authorities are afraid to challenge his majik documents, etc. Until one day a busload of bailiffs and bobbies appear. Hurry up, lads.
"don't be hubris ever..." Steve Mccrae, noted legal ExpertInFuckAll.
longdog
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 4806
Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:53 am

Re: Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

Post by longdog »

He doesn't have anything like the following of Nottingham's finest. I blame the lack of a titfer.

You know what they say... "If you want to get a large following of indolent freeloaders, get a hat". Or something like that.
JULIAN: I recommend we try Per verulium ad camphorum actus injuria linctus est.
SANDY: That's your actual Latin.
HORNE: What does it mean?
JULIAN: I dunno - I got it off a bottle of horse rub, but it sounds good, doesn't it?
User avatar
Pottapaug1938
Supreme Prophet (Junior Division)
Posts: 6138
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:26 pm
Location: In the woods, with a Hudson Bay axe in my hands.

Re: Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

Post by Pottapaug1938 »

longdog wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:02 am He doesn't have anything like the following of Nottingham's finest. I blame the lack of a titfer.

You know what they say... "If you want to get a large following of indolent freeloaders, get a hat". Or something like that.
"What's a titfer?"

"To nurse off of, Silly!"
"We've been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of the culture." -- Pastor Ray Mummert, Dover, PA, during an attempt to introduce creationism -- er, "intelligent design", into the Dover Public Schools
longdog
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 4806
Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:53 am

Re: Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

Post by longdog »

A small brown Richard the third.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RwyPDPlFA8
JULIAN: I recommend we try Per verulium ad camphorum actus injuria linctus est.
SANDY: That's your actual Latin.
HORNE: What does it mean?
JULIAN: I dunno - I got it off a bottle of horse rub, but it sounds good, doesn't it?
aesmith
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 1462
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:14 am

Re: Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

Post by aesmith »

Things progressing, if slowly, he has now been given notice of an application to pass the eviction to High Court enforcement.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1957436 ... 690483807/

He has it in hand though ..
I have voided the possession order under common law with the void order documents, which was delivered to Medway county court 13th February 2020. Should be a good test for the void orders
longdog
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 4806
Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:53 am

Re: Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

Post by longdog »

I have voided the possession order under common law with the void order documents, which was delivered to Medway county court 13th February 2020. Should be a good test for the void orders
Well he's right about that much and I'm 100% confident that the test will produce a negative result.
JULIAN: I recommend we try Per verulium ad camphorum actus injuria linctus est.
SANDY: That's your actual Latin.
HORNE: What does it mean?
JULIAN: I dunno - I got it off a bottle of horse rub, but it sounds good, doesn't it?
mufc1959
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 1186
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:47 pm
Location: Manchester by day, Slaithwaite by night

Re: Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

Post by mufc1959 »

Crabby continues to try (but fails miserably) to make himself look clever in front of his Facebook acolytes.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1957436 ... 253635584/
Sun, 16 Feb 2020 12:27
To
enquiries.medway.countycourt enquiries.medway.countycourt@justice.gov.uk
F.A.O. Court Clerk,
Re Court Order Ref. Nos. E3PP5894 & 0111 of 2016
Regarding the recent void orders that you have signed for on 13th February 2020, I write to confirm that you are required to forward it to the appropriate judges to have them set aside. I require e-mail confirmation to confirm that this has been complied with, please forward your response by return e-mail and within forty-eight (48) hours.
Regards
Robert White

Their 1st Reply.
Mon, 17 Feb 2020 10:32
Medway County, Enquiries
To
Bob White
Good Morning,
Which void orders are you referring to?
Regards,
Nic@Medway County Court

My response.
Mon, 17 Feb 2020 11:15
Bob White
To enquiries.medway.countycourt
Good Morning,
I am referring to the two void court orders that were signed for on 13th February 2020. Both were signed for by Williams at 12.04 pm, referring to E3PP5894 and 0111 of 2016. I require you to forward them to the appropriate judges to have them set aside.
Regards
Robert White

Their 2ndreply.
Mon, 17 Feb 2020 11:37
Medway County, Enquiries
To
Bob White
Good Morning,
Can you explain how they are void? The Court staff cannot make representations on your behalf. Any request to send aside orders made should be made via an application.
Regards,
Nic@Medway County Court

My response.
Mon, 17 Feb 2020 11:52
Bob White
To
enquiries.medway.countycourt
Dear Nic@Medway County Court,
Are you legally trained? I cannot make it any clearer and it's not for you to make any decisions. It is not a request, please make sure you forward them to the appropriate judges, District Judge Thomas and District Judge Suh. The void orders have been filed on record at the Civil Court of Administration at the Royal Courts of Justice in London.
Regards
Robert White

All quiet at the moment, hopefully the penny dropped.🙄

UPDATE.
Just had another reply from Nic@Medway, is someone watching my facebook posts?

Mon, 17 Feb 2020 15:44
Medway County, Enquiries
To
Bob White
Good Afternoon,
I don’t see how whether I am legally trained or not is of any concern. I was enquiring what the issues were with the orders. To “void” your bankruptcy, you must apply to the Court to annul your bankruptcy but you would have to complied with the Official receiver beforehand as the matter has gone beyond the Court order.
If you need any assistance with the procedures in Court, please feel free to ask.
Regards,
Nic@Medway County Court

My reply.
Dear Nic@Medway,
Are you the Court Clerk? If not, please pass my correspondence on to whomever may be the Court Clerk. Also, I must remind of this, courts exist to do justice, to guarantee liberty, to enhance social order, to resolve disputes, to maintain rule of law, to provide for equal protection, and to ensure due process of law. They exist so the equality of individuals and the government is reality rather than empty rhetoric.
Hopefully you now understand where I’m coming from. Staff in HM Courts & Tribunals Service cannot give legal advice, so will not be able to advise in their opinion what I should or should not do. It’s quite simple, if you are the court clerk pass my correspondence on to the judges concerned, if not, pass it onto the court clerk to pass my correspondence onto the judges concerned.
Regards
Robert White
John Uskglass
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 1074
Joined: Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:21 pm

Re: Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

Post by John Uskglass »

Seems to me that our friends over at 'Council Tax is So Unfair - Why Can't We Be Like Somalia?'* are missing a trick.

Landlords and businesses are using unoccupied buildings to house "snail farms" in a city and avoid business rates, a council has been told.

Bradford Council heard that buildings said to house snail farms were being classed as agricultural use and therefore avoided the charge.

The council's revenue and benefits team told councillors: "A lot of people are trying to use avoidance tactics."

A senior officer said they were "snails in a box nothing more".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-51489011

* We know a song about that, don't we children?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXIbWHWCm4g
User avatar
AnOwlCalledSage
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 2456
Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:56 pm
Location: M3/S Hubble Road, Cheltenham GL51 0EX

Re: Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

Post by AnOwlCalledSage »

John Uskglass wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:35 am Seems to me that our friends over at 'Council Tax is So Unfair - Why Can't We Be Like Somalia?'* are missing a trick.
Given my experience, this is just the council officers bringing some light relief to a meeting, rather than pointing out an actually successful scheme. As anyone involved in planning knows, this would require a change of use application, so not only could they be done for council tax fraud, but additionally for flouting planning laws. :snicker:
Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity - Hanlon's Razor
John Uskglass
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 1074
Joined: Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:21 pm

Re: Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

Post by John Uskglass »

As anyone involved in planning knows, this would require a change of use application, so not only could they be done for council tax fraud, but additionally for flouting planning laws
You'd think so, although Bradford is known for lax enforcement on planning matters.

However, the report in the local paper seems unambiguous.
Martin Stubbs, assistant director of Revenue and Benefits at Bradford Council, told members: “A lot of people are now trying to use avoidance tactics. Some of these aren’t illegal.

“We have a number of snail farms in the city. Because they are classed as an agricultural undertaking they are not liable for rates.”
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... ty-centre/
exiledscouser
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 1322
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:01 pm

Re: Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

Post by exiledscouser »

The BBC report linked above concludes with this for fans of Escargot farming everywhere;

[qoute]In 2018 Kirklees Council was awarded £16,000 costs following a successful prosecution for the avoidance of non-domestic rates in a snail farm case.[/quote]

So not quite a sure-fire winner.
John Uskglass
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 1074
Joined: Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:21 pm

Re: Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

Post by John Uskglass »

The reports I could find on the Kirklees case are a bit muddy, but it looks as if the scammers made the rookie mistake of not actually installing any snails on the premises.
Giving evidence to the court was a heliciculturist (snail farmer) Mr Walker who had surveyed the premises highlighting that the property was not set up for any form of snail farming.
https://kirkleestogether.co.uk/2018/10/ ... avoidance/
longdog
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 4806
Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:53 am

Re: Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

Post by longdog »

mufc1959 wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:57 pm Crabby continues to try (but fails miserably) to make himself look clever in front of his Facebook acolytes.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1957436 ... 253635584/
Sun, 16 Feb 2020 12:27
To
enquiries.medway.countycourt enquiries.medway.countycourt@justice.gov.uk
F.A.O. Court Clerk,

Please pass on these completely worthless documents from a play court to the judge as they overturn all of the legal consequences of my own cretinous behaviour over the last five years.
Regards
Robert White


Mon, 17 Feb 2020 10:32
Medway County, Enquiries

That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.

Regards,
Nic@Medway County Court


Mon, 17 Feb 2020 11:15
Bob White

But I want it to.

Regards
Robert White


Mon, 17 Feb 2020 11:37
Medway County, Enquiries
To
Bob White

Tough!

Regards,
Nic@Medway County Court
Edited in the interests of brevity and accuracy :snicker:
JULIAN: I recommend we try Per verulium ad camphorum actus injuria linctus est.
SANDY: That's your actual Latin.
HORNE: What does it mean?
JULIAN: I dunno - I got it off a bottle of horse rub, but it sounds good, doesn't it?
mufc1959
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 1186
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:47 pm
Location: Manchester by day, Slaithwaite by night

Re: Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

Post by mufc1959 »

An update from Crabby. It seems Nic@Medway County court and the District Judges are failing to capitulate in the face of an order of the CLC voiding Crabby's bankruptcy and possession order. Just fancy that!
From: Medway County, Enquiries
To: Bob White
Sent: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 11:51
Subject: RE: F.A.O. Court Clerk, Medway County Court and Family Court
Good Morning,
I am a Clerk of the Court or Court Officer and I am merely giving you procedural advice as the Judge will not normally allow applications if made in an informal manner.
Your paperwork was sent to the Judge who commented as follows;

Upon the Court considering the document filed by the defendant Mr Robert White. Upon the Court noting that this purports to be an application to set aside the order dated 13th August 2018. Upon the Court noting that a formal application has not been made. The Court is not prepared to accept this as an application. For the avoidance of doubt the order dated the 13th August 2018 remains in force.

Regards,
Nic@Medway County Court

Tue, 18 Feb 2020 12:59
Bob White
To enquiries.medway.countycourt
Dear Nic@Medway County Court,
Thank you for your reply and confirming that you are a Clerk of the Court or Court Officer, we seem to be getting somewhere now.
Is Nic@Medway County Court your full name? If not I require you to confirm your full name as a public officer, a public officer is a person who carries out a public duty and has an office of trust.
Was the judge who commented on the paperwork District Judge Thomas? As the date referred to concerns the void possession order, and District Judge Thomas is the one who gave the original order which has now been voided. The judge concerned needs to understand the NOTICE OF VOID ORDER is not an application or an appeal. It is a notice to the court to inform the court that the judges original possession order decision has been voided. If the comments of the judge were not from District Judge Thomas, please make sure the documents go to the correct judge.
The other set of documents need to go to District Judge Suh, please make sure District Judge Suh receives the documents as soon as possible.
Regards
Robert White Tue, 18 Feb 2020 14:07

Medway County, Enquiries
To Bob White
Good Afternoon,
The comment was from DJ Thomas, and I suspect that there will be a similar comment from DJ Suh but I will forward this on to her as soon as possible.
Regards,
Nic@Medway County Court