notorial dissent wrote: ↑Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:36 pmYes, but it also helps if you have something people want to see and that is worth viewing, the fail here from what I can see.
America: Freedom to Fascism, Loose Change, and other garbage conspiracy films all found an audience. This probably could too, but Waugh's incompetence and cheapness prevents it.
It says a lot about Waugh that he won't show the movie unless he's guaranteed to recover his costs at every single showing. That's an absurd level of risk aversion. He fails to see the intangible value of simply having your movie on the marquee, and having people go to it, so word of mouth can spread. Asking people to buy movie tickets weeks in advance for a showing that may not happen is, to put it mildly, unrealistic. And is he even promoting the damn thing? How does he expect to generate demand without advertising?
So, yeah, the movie is shit, but it's being held back from its limited potential by its producer's unwillingness to part with a penny over it.
notorial dissent wrote: ↑Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:36 pmYes, but it also helps if you have something people want to see and that is worth viewing, the fail here from what I can see.
America: Freedom to Fascism, Loose Change, and other garbage conspiracy films all found an audience. This probably could too, but Waugh's incompetence and cheapness prevents it.
It says a lot about Waugh that he won't show the movie unless he's guaranteed to recover his costs at every single showing. That's an absurd level of risk aversion. He fails to see the intangible value of simply having your movie on the marquee, and having people go to it, so word of mouth can spread. Asking people to buy movie tickets weeks in advance for a showing that may not happen is, to put it mildly, unrealistic. And is he even promoting the damn thing? How does he expect to generate demand without advertising?
So, yeah, the movie is shit, but it's being held back from its limited potential by its producer's unwillingness to part with a penny over it.
It doesn't hurt that there is a much bigger pool of the gullible with money here. It may also be that the US efforts may just have been, relatively, better, scary as that is, or maybe our batch are just dumber and freer with their beer and ciggy money. Depressing either way.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.
notorial dissent wrote: ↑Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:00 pmIt doesn't hurt that there is a much bigger pool of the gullible with money here. It may also be that the US efforts may just have been, relatively, better, scary as that is, or maybe our batch are just dumber and freer with their beer and ciggy money.
Which raises another point - this movie has zero international potential, because it's about UK-specific laws. The US market is big enough for that kind of focus, but the UK isn't.
TheNewSaint wrote: ↑Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:26 pm
And clearly it hasn't occurred to Waugh that if he commits to screening the movie for once, he might get some walk-up sales. Or, people might see the name on the marquee and want to learn more about it.
"Oh look my dear... There's a film about mortgages... We must see that!" Said nobody ever
JULIAN: I recommend we try Per verulium ad camphorum actus injuria linctus est.
SANDY: That's your actual Latin.
HORNE: What does it mean?
JULIAN: I dunno - I got it off a bottle of horse rub, but it sounds good, doesn't it?
Agreed, the title of TGBMS reveals it as the self-serving amateur snorefest it is. But there have been lots of good movies about finance: Wall Street, Boiler Room, Trading Places, even It's A Wonderful Life. I think a movie about mortgages could be interesting if it had good characters and story.
Hell, i think i've argued before that Tom Crawford himself would make a compelling protagonist. He's a common laborer who seeks to protect his family's home from being taken over by the big bank. By default, he's the hero of the story, almost a Frank Capra character. Yet, he's completely in the wrong. Has there ever been a story about a scrappy little underdog who deserved to lose? All the rallies Tom arranged, full of people who bought into the myth and didn't know the full story. The retired floor installer sitting up late reading law books at the dinner table, while well-dressed lawyers leave their office early because their case against him is a slam dunk. His (highly fictionalized) family breaking apart over it all.
What a fascinating story this could be. But instead, we get two hours of Waugh talking pseudo law.
TheNewSaint wrote: ↑Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:26 pm
And clearly it hasn't occurred to Waugh that if he commits to screening the movie for once, he might get some walk-up sales. Or, people might see the name on the marquee and want to learn more about it.
"Oh look my dear... There's a film about mortgages... We must see that!" Said nobody ever
Inside job? Then again, Matt Damon will star in anything
He missed the boat a few years ago. If he had shown this in the 3 week period between the Crawford’s May court case and the judgment being made available he could have capitalised on getting a few lied too through the door. Now though his target ordinance is a dozen or so freetards who don’t like to pay for anything.
Tevildo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:29 pm
See Loser Protagonist. [WARNING: TvTropes can seriously damage your productivity]. Broadway Danny Rose is the first example on their list.
I was thinking more Rogue Protagonist: Someone who starts as the hero and slowly becomes the villain. First film example: Michael Corleone.
At risk of quoting myself...here's a post from January 2017 with a review undertaken by that most unbiased of commentators, no lesser person than Mark 'Ceylon' Haining;
exiledscouser wrote:In respect of the Great British Mortgage Swindle that Michael O'Bollocks is pedalling up and down the country;
getoutofdebtfools: wrote:I trust you've all got your tickets for one of the 24 cinemas on 18th February 2017...
TGBMS Day – Saturday, 18 February, 2017
TheGreatBritishMortgageSwindle to be screened Nationwide at 24 Cinemas via Cinema-on-demand
I remembered this gem, an unbiased review from a certain high profile trusted and revered film critic and reviewer.
No, not Barry Norman or the BBC's Mark Kermode, no, its none-other than our old friend Mark "Sellon" Haining after what appears to have been, erm, a 'sherbert' or two;
Sellon said (in his U toob rant) rather than wrote:
O'Really?
O'Dreary?
I don't think he's on about O'Bonkers here, as far as I know his other half has stayed out of the limelight. However that other Mike O' The Rogue Male, O'Deira does have a thoroughly unpleasant wife. You may remember her spitting in a copper's face at the battle of Fearn Chase, for which she had her collar felt & subsequent conviction.
Another re-edit for legal reasons.............lost count but maybe this is the 3rd re edit for legal reasons:
[from twitter @TheBernician on 8th Sept 2018 ]
"After spending the last three months re-editing The Great British Mortgage Swindle for legal reasons, the theatrical release had to be postponed. However, the new release date will be confirmed next week, so watch this space for news"
If this stupid home movie needs so many re edits for legal reasons, O'Bonks and O'Dreary are probably facing the consequences of making pseudo legal statements in public against people or organisations capable and willing to challenge them back. Quite surprising really when his posts about his stolen family property portfolio constantly boast about how he wins all the time.
What edit on a completed movie takes 3 months to do? Any change that pervasive would alter it to the point of being a totally different movie. Like if George Lucas had found out in January 1977 that he didn't have the rights to R2-D2.
My theory is that these "legal edits" are just so he can keep releasing the movie as new. Given the low probability anyone would watch it more than once, he'll likely get away with it.
Or, he doesn't have anything ready to go and he's stalling. We can add vapor movie to the family of vapor along with siblings ware and product.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.
To be fair, he does seem to have something ready to deliver to theaters. Which is not to say it's a good movie, but it is a movie. Which is more than Ken Thompson has ever produced.
I am reminded of Hal P. Warren and Manos: The Hands of Fate. Warren bet a Hollywood friend that any ordinary schmo like himself could make a movie. He was right, but it turned out that quality is a different story.
Finally, all the waiting, all the eager anticipation, all the legal re writes, The Great British Mortgage Swindle is being released:
TGBMS: UK Release
Warm Salutations.
You are receiving this email because you did one of the following things:
1. Pre-ordered and paid for discounted tickets to see The Great British Mortgage Swindle, in a UK cinema.
2. Reserved tickets to see the film in a UK cinema, without paying for them.
3. You attended a screening of the rough cut of the film.
We are delighted to inform you that, having been completely re-edited for legal reasons, The Great British Mortgage Swindle is set for its UK theatrical release on 10/11/2018.
The film will open at 12pm on Saturday November the 10th, at the Savoy Cinema in Nottingham, where most of the film's protagonists, including The Michaels of Bernicia & Deira and Tom Crawford, will be in attendance.
If you have already bought tickets via A-FP's Cinema-on-Demand Special Offer, you are eligible to use it to see the film at a venue of your choosing. We are therefore delighted to offer you the chance to attend this special opening of the film, after which there will be drinks and a finger buffet to celebrate the long-awaited release of the film.
In the event you wish to attend, please RSVP to this email by 2pm on 23/10/2018, writing "Nottingham Special Screening" in the subject header; then simply bring along your C-O-D ticket and submit it to gain entry to the screening and the party afterwards.
Those who haven't yet booked tickets to see the film in any one of 23 UK towns and cities, can do so at the box office link below:
A-FP Cinema-on-Demand Box Office
If you book your ticket via the C-O-D platform, you will also be eligible to attend the special screening in Nottingham, but only for as long as there are seats still available. Everybody who wishes to experience what promises to be an auspicious occasion should book tickets without delay, in order to avoid disappointment.
For the avoidance of doubt, all C-O-D tickets purchased are good to gain entry into any screening nationwide, subject to confirmation and availability; whilst full refunds are available until 24 hours before any confirmed screening in 23 towns and cities across the country.
News of screening dates and venues in North and South London will follow shortly in the next TGBMS Newsletter.
Many thanks for supporting truly independent filmmaking and for helping us bring The Great British Mortgage Swindle to a cinema near you.
