Dinarpaloosa

[GlimDropper]

Thank you Gregg.

Is there any information, links, quotes, anything that might be helpful in expediting the authorities in their investigation? I have a free hour or two I could devote to a good cause.

[GlimDropper]

Here's an interview of Rudolf and Bradford conducted by "Dinar Daddy." The interview took place on March 31st. (Link)

Rudy starts talking at about 14:30 and Brad doesn't start until just before the 21:00 mark. They don't finish until about 49 minutes into the call. Rudy boasts about having 300 million committed to his hedge fund and makes mewling noises about all the calls he's getting from the big Wall Street firms who are becoming interested in what he's doing. He says a lot of crap and I'll return to that in a bit but Rudy's "Bayshore Capital Investments" (LLC) has a unique relationship with Bradford Huebner's "BH" group in so far as Brad and his website are the only way you can invest in the Iraq Hedge Fund. Brad explains that you first need to join his site (free) and fill out a copy of the Inception Investor Seat Allocation for Iraqi Hedge Funds I and II form (most of the site is password protected but I don't think that link is). And as the form explains it must be returned with a non-refundable $750 application fee.

I don't know if Rudy gets a split of the huge markup Brad charges on Dinars but the form tells you to make the check for the application fee out to:

Bayshore Capital Investments, LLC
10347 Nakema Dr. West
Jacksonville, FL 32257
ATTN: Rudolph Coenen, CEO

Random pieces of crap from the call:

~The SEC restricts Rudy to only 500 investors per hedge fund so between the two funds, only 1,000 spots available.

~Brad points out that there are only 490 spots per fund available because they're saving ten spots each for "institutional investors."

~Brad is a "licensed currency trader" which while likely true, doesn't mean what he says it does.

~Rudy expects the "RV" in 45 to 60 days and he expects the Dinar to be valued anywhere between parity with the Dollar to 2 1/2 Dollars to the Dinar.

I tried to get this quote as accurate as possible because, well in his voice at least it's darn funny:

I reaffirmed my belief that us Dinar holders are going to profit and capitalize on this investment that we've done. - Rudolph Coenen

[Gregg]

~Rudy expects the "RV" in 45 to 60 days and he expects the Dinar to be valued anywhere between parity with the Dollar to 2 1/2 Dollars to the Dinar.

Umm, so if there are 27 trillion Dinars in circulation (there are) for it to reval at par to the dollar the CBI would need to have on hand $27 trillion dollars (because essentially when a central bank "values' a currency, they are offering to buy it at the rate quoted)
Problem is, there aren't 27 trillion dollars in existence. If it revals at $2, double that, and if you go for the big kahuna or $6 value, well, anyone know where a piddly little country in the middle east can get it's hands on $162 trillion? Hell, Al Hodges and the CMKX trust fund doesn't even have that kind of coin.

And pointing this incontrovertible fact out on Dinar Vets will get you banned.

[GlimDropper]

I think i figured this scam out, if so then these guys aren't quite as stupid as their podcasts make them sound. From their application (the one you need to send in with the non refundable $750:

Most people will NOT be able to meet the Qualifications required by the Security and Exchange
Commission until AFTER the Revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar. To accommodate those individuals,
the inception date of the Hedge Fund will not start until 21 days after the Revaluation.

So the hedge fund doesn't exist yet and it will not exist until 21 days AFTER the Dinar gets revalued. Elsewhere in the "contract" it specifies "based on a Revaluation (RV) of the Iraqi Dinar at a minimum value of $1USD." So they know there will never be a "RV" bringing the Dinar to parity (or above) to the dollar, that's the scam. The pitch is to join this amazing hedge fund first you need to fork over $750. Then since there are only going to be 1,000 (or 980) available spots, those spots go to the 1,000 people who buy the most Dinar through Brad's website.

So they know the hedge fund never will exist, they're pocketing the $750 per and selling as many over priced Dinar as they can. That's a sick scam, it works clean without any The Producers type trap doors and honestly, I'm not sure how all that illegal it is. Please, someone tell me how illegal it is?

[Gregg]

I'm not a lawyer, so I really don't know. I'm guessing, not quite as illegal as producing child porn, but it's a lot worse than a speeding ticket.

[Deep Knight]

Today April 11 is the day, just like March 31st was, and all the other ones before that were! This time for sure!!!

The chatter on the RAP-NESARA forum.

Dinar Intel Update 4-8-11
MAJOR MAJOR CONFIRMATION!!!!--
Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 4:33 PM

From the Skype chat room. –B

[7:59:19 AM | Edited 8:16:18 AM] westaff3: A chat of epic proportions occurred last night in the Planet Dinar chat room and this quote from OAKIE began it:
"[4/8/2011 9:26:49 PM] David LeBrock: [OKIE_OIL_MAN] JUST GOT THRU WATCHING THE TEMPORARY STOP GAP FUNDING MEASURE ALLOWING THE US GOV ANOTHER WEEK OF OPERATION PENDING A LONGER AGREEMENT TO THOSE WHO ARE ASTUTE AND REALIZE THE SIGNIFANCE OF HISTORY NOT BEING REPEATED INSTEAD HISTORY BEING WRITTEN IS PARAMOUNT AND HAS A RELATION TO THE R/V THAT MOST ARE UNAWARE OF. NOW SIT BACK-RELAX--AND WATCH THINGS HAPPEN RAPIDLY--STRADEGY IS BRILLIANT SOMETIMES."

OAKIE is referring to the delay is being caused by the tying in of the RV to the PPs, CMKX, etc. and will be released very soon. Apparently from what I gather the negotiations on the budget are due to the new financial system which is now imminent and the Corp. of the USA having to bow the knee. Here are some more extracts:

"[4/8/2011 9:33:24 PM] David LeBrock: [OKIE_OIL_MAN] I HAVE GIVEN KEY INDICATORS--NOW LET'S SEE WHAT DEEP THINKERS CAN GLEEN FROM MY POST------THIS SHOULD BE INTERESTING

[4/8/2011 9:31:35 PM] David LeBrock: [OKIE_OIL_MAN] SWITZERLAND--A NEUTRAL COUNTRY--A COUNTRY THAT THE INTERNATIONAL SETTLEMENT BANK IS SITUATED IN--JUST REMEMBER THIS--LOVE THE SWISS---KINDA RHYMES DOESN'T IT?

[4/8/2011 9:41:07 PM] David LeBrock: [G-550] OKIE_OIL_MAN you know my background of over 10 years in the Swiss banking system, including in Basel, Zurich and Geneva. (Does anyone Have NO doubt? Just when?) G-550] OKIE_OIL_MAN there are truly layers and layers that are given on a need to know basis [Ingrid] G-550 Not secrets - settlements may have been dealt with by now - there was a big condition on that - now it is RV. If in Europe they have the rate and talk about it, what is holding it here? It is the 8th - the RV day!

[OKIE_OIL_MAN] TOMMY DOLLAR---FINALLY---SO SIMPLE YET SO COMPLEX THAT SOME OVERLOOK THE OBVIOUS--YES NUETRALITY IS AN ISSUE--YES THE BANK OF INTERNATIONAL SETTLEMENTS IS THE TRANSACTOR OF ALL TRADE'S BETWEEN COUNTRIES--YES THE BASEL 2 IS INITIATED-YES THE INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND HAS TURNED OVER THE AUTHORITY TO SWITZERLAND-YES THE SWISS WILL BE THE INSTIGATING FACTOR TO FACILITATE THE R/V--I CAN GO ON AND ON BUT TO SOME THEY WILL STILL NOT UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE OR MAGNITUDE OF WHAT IMPORTANCE A COUNTRY SO UNRELATED (SEEMINGLY) TO IRAQ HAS. NOW THERES ONLY A PART OF AN ANSWER THAT I CAN ELABORATE ON FOR HOURS------GOOD ANALYSIS AND SIMPLE TOMMY DOLLAR---YOU GET THE CIGAR

[4/8/2011 9:49:46 PM] David LeBrock: [Ingrid] ladydi54 Basel is the major banking city in Switzerland where the agreement on transparent banking was done - Basel II and Basel III. In Canada all banks are compliant with Basel II and about to be
(very, very important) compliant with Basel III. Where you keep your big account, ask if they are compliant. If not - stay away from them or say bye, bye to your money.

[4/8/2011 9:50:11 PM] David LeBrock: [holistichealth] OKIE - When the RV occurs, US debt is cleared but now there is also more $$$ that will come into the FED so both parties are content. Then, the IRS will post a new law re: currencies - FLAT 15% taxes and the government will then bring in millions of new money as well. WATCH the stock market for oil and gold prices as indicators of what will happen as this continues to play out. SHABBI will also get his wish and after 180 days of a managed float the IQD will spike to $12 (or more).

[OKIE_OIL_MAN] I HAVE FINALLY ACCOMPOLISHED A HIDDEN PURPOSE I HAVE HAD FOR QUITE SOMETIME NOW--I AM MAKING SOME OF YOU THINK FOR YOURSELVES AND NOT WANTING OKIE AND OTHERS TO DO THE THINKING FOR YOU------KEEP USEING YOUR HEADS--I AM PROUD OF YOU--MORE THAN EVER BEFORE

[4/8/2011 9:51:16 PM] David LeBrock: [Ingrid] G-550 I know that there are many layers - mathematical formulas too

[4/8/2011 9:51:26 PM] David LeBrock: [G-550] Ingrid not sure of your intent...detours and excuses?....this is not a game for the faint of heart, it is a world of high level sophistication that is beyond what 99% of the people are even vaguely familiar with..

[OKIE_OIL_MAN] I AM NOT PUTTING ANY OF YOU DOWN--ON THE CONTRARY--I AM PROUD OF YOU LEARNING TO FEED YOURSELVES--YOU DO ME PROUD

[4/8/2011 9:53:31 PM] David LeBrock: [gator4ever] OKIE it sure sounds like the mother-lode is finally at the dock???

[thebear] OKIE_OIL_MAN I believe that a fundamental shift of power is taking place in the banking empire of the world. There is currently a seismic and greatly disproportionate shift away from the USD as the future capitalization tool of the reserve banks around the world. The use of the IQD and also SDR's from the IMF through Switzerland will attempt to level the playing field in the eyes of many global elitists.

[4/8/2011 9:54:03 PM] David LeBrock: [Ingrid] G-550 A long process and journey where no mistakes can be made. Other currencies RV - calculations, speculations - beyond human capacity of resolving. And Powers. [dimples] Federal Reserve has no jurisdiction of The Swiss right?

[OKIE_OIL_MAN] THE BEAR--EXCELLENT BRIEF OVERVIEW OF A VERY CONVOLUTED AND COMPLEX PLAN.

Posted by John MacHaffie at 6:07 AM 0 comments

It might just be me, but I don't think tying your PP to your RV is a very good idea...

Dinar Intel Update 4-9-11

5:26 PM [ladyj47] Just got this from the GET chat.....
Hello Everyone, His Most High Eminence of Get-ness is traveling and just called me, he says for all the ones that may not believe this, please start checking with your resources,
but they are cashing in internationally and we will see this on Monday, he did not get the rate, but it was confirmed and you heard that here first
a confirmed cashing out internationally and he will get us the rate and we will see this come Monday.
5:27 PM [ladyj47] Again from GET chat That's right folks ... you heard if here first!! a confirmed -- I repeat -- a confirmed cashing out internationally!! It doesn't get better than this!!

Posted by John MacHaffie at 6:08 AM 0 comments

It's Monday, anyone seeing this?

Monday, April 11, 2011
Dinar Intel Update 4-10-11

Subject: Segment of dinar chat today ...4/10....very encouraging
To:
Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 8:24 PM
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 10:47 PM

I've never noticed Lakshmi before, but Poppy2 has a solid name and appears to
be VERY well connected with people in high places. On another forum, I saw
someone declaring the RV would absolutely be hitting the global banking system
at 2 PM Eastern tomorrow. One of these days, someone's gonna be RIGHT.M
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Lakshmi/POPPY2 Chat

[Lakshmi] the.minister A. The US Treasury holds somewhere between 3.2 and
5.2 Trillion IQD. Plus with the spread they are getting from our cash-ins, there
will be a HUGE influx of revenue to the Treasury

[POPPY2] katmar actually all the same people been in those positions for
15 weeks they have had their names on the door of their office for weeks.
everything since has just been smoke and mirrors and out and out lies no
intel to the contrary I have found any here from anyone except their
corruptness media.

[the.minister] Lakshmi They will utilized those funds to pay off China, which
will strengthen the dollar and use us in our spending to strengthen the economy,
thats how I see it.

[Lakshmi] just got off the phone. Got clarification on budget extension. The
extension WAS agreed on so the RV wouldn't have fallen into chaos. Revenues
allow for ratification of new budget, so RV MUST occur before Thursday.
All sources still saying Mon/Tues.

[Lakshmi] the.minister The dollar is doomed to fall no matter how much debt
is payed off. At least temporarily. Part of the plan of the Global banking reboot.

[acdc] Lakshmi I thought if the gov shut down it would inactivate fed res and
put treasury in charge, this sounds diff than what we heard. am I missing
something?
[Lakshmi] acdc Still allows for that change to occur, but without the devastation
that a complete shutdown would have created. And with the added bonus of
a new sense of urgency.

[acdc] Lakshmi so u see the new treasury note coming out this wk as well
[Lakshmi] acdc yes

[dinarmama23] Lakshmi did you say the new banking system would go into
effect 24 hrs post RV?

[Lakshmi] dinarmama23 Since it didn't happen prior to Friday/Gov't
shutdown, looks like it will start Monday regardless.

Posted by John MacHaffie at 4:40 AM 0 comments

Monday, Monday, so good to me
Monday mornin', it was all I hoped it would be
Oh Monday mornin', Monday mornin' couldn't guarantee
That Monday evenin' you would still be here with me

Monday, Monday, can't trust that day
Monday, Monday, sometimes it just turns out that way
Oh Monday mornin' you gave me no warnin' of what was to be
Oh Monday, Monday, how could you leave and not take me

Every other day, every other day
Every other day of the week is fine, yeah
But whenever Monday comes, but whenever Monday comes
A-you can find me cryin' all of the time

Dinar Intel Update - Oakie 4-10-11
Subject: Okie today

[OKIE_OIL_MAN] GOOD MORNING AMERICA AND SHIPS AT SEA AND OUR FRIENDS
OVERSEAS--I USUALLY DON'T POST ON THE SABBATH AND AS WE'RE TOLD--KEEP
IT HOLY. TODAY ACCORDING TO INDICATORS MAY BE A VERY SPECIAL DAY. I AM
GOING TODAY AND IN THE FUTURE AVOID DATES AS THEY HAVE NEVER CAME TO
PASS. MY INTEL HAS ALWAYS BEEN 2 OR 3 DAY'S AHEAD OF TIME AND CORRECT
BUT THE DATES FURNISHED TO ME WAS ALWAYS WRONG. I HAVE JUST GOT THRU
STUDYING THE UN DOCUMENT FROM THURS UN MEETING--I WILL TRY TO GET THIS
IN 1 POST BUT I NOTICE I AM LIMITED AS THE AMOUNT OF SPACE I CAN TYPE
BEFORE SOFT WARE SHUTS ME OFF--MELKERT-THE SEC GENERAL SPECIAL REP TO
THE UN LAID DOWN THE LAW TO IRAQ THURSDAY.HE POINTED OUT FACTORS OF
CONCERN TO IRAQ THAT THE UN HAD. NAMELY 50% UNEMPLOYMENT--LESS THAT
40% CHILDREN IN SCHOOL--LESS THAN 20% IN SECONDARY SCHOOLS--INDICATING
A YOUNG POPULATION WITH FEW PROSPECTS. HE STRONGLY CHASTIZED THE IRAQ
GOV FOR THE CORRUPTION FACTOR THAT HAS BEEN PRESENT. HE MADE ONLY A
PASSING COMMENT ABOUT THE NUMBER OF BOMBS BEING DETONATED BUT CITED
THAT IT STILL IS A CONCERN FOR THE UN SUPERVISORS THAT ARE HELPING
IRAQ GET A FOOT HOLD ON DEMOCRACY. WILL MAKE AN ADDENDUM TO
POST--SOFTWARE SHUTTING ME OFF

[OKIE_OIL_MAN] AS I STATED YESTERDAY THE BIS (BANK OF INTERNATIONAL
SETTLEMENT) HAS RECEIVED IT'S LAST RESPONSE FROM COUNTRIES AS A
PRECURSOR TO THE RE-DENOMINATION OF OVER 100 DIFFERENT CURRIENCIES. I
HAVE RECEIVED RUMORS (R U M O R S) THAT AS SOON AS TODAY THAT THE BIS
COULD PERMISSABLY RELEASE THE NEW RATES FOR ALL THESE DIFFERENT
COUNTRIES. IF TRUE THEN WE SHOULD HEAR OR SEE PERHAPS ON THE CBI SITE
OR THE FORE-X THE RATE. I REPEAT THIS WAS FURNISHED TO ME FROM GOOD
SOURCES BUT KEEP IT IN THE RUMOR CATEGORY BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN FOOLED
MANY TIMES BEFORE. WITH THE LAST PREREQUISITES BEING FINALIZED THE
POSSIBILITY IS IMMENENT OF THE IMPENDING CHANGE. AS FAR AS IRAQ IS
CONCERNED AND THE IMF AND THE WORLD BANK--THE RATE IS FINALIZED AND
ACCEPTED. THE CONTROLING ENTITY NOW IS THE BIS AND IS OUT OF ANYONE
BUT THEIR HANDS. WITH THE NEED TO STIMULATE THE WORLD ECONOMY AND NEED
TO MAKE COUNTRIES SOMEWHAT COMPATABLE ON THE TRADING ASPECT OF
INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS AND TO TEMPORARILY SPUR THE FLAILING ECONOMIC
SITUATIONS--IT APPEARS TIME IS THE ENEMY OF THE BIS AND MUST BE
ADDRESSED IN A RAPID MANNER. HAVING SAID ALL AT THIS TIME I LEAVE YOU
WITH BEST WISHES AND HOPES FOR A RAPID APPEARANCE OF THE IQD R/V---GOD
BLESS ALL

Posted by John MacHaffie at 4:42 AM 0 comments

Yep, Okie Oil Man has always been correct even though nothing he's said has ever happened. Uh huh.

[notorial dissent]

I don't pretend to be an expert on Hedge Funds, way outside of my experience and field, but unless I am very much mistaken, what Bayshore is doing comes down to unlicensed sale of securities, and the legal term for it escapes me now, but basicially solicitation to sell an unlicensed / unregistered security, and I am pretty sure that even Hedge Funds have to be registered before they can be sold, and is more than a bit illegal both at the state and fed levels. We won't even get in to the actual fraud issues here.

At this point, the only RV that is going to hit the Dinar, if and when it ever actually happens, is going to be a negative split, with so many thousands(fill in very large number) being equal to a dollar, not the other way around. That of course would imply Iraq having a viable and sustainable gov't and economy, and I also don't see that happening anytime in the foreseeable future either.

[Deep Knight]

I don't pretend to be an expert on Hedge Funds, way outside of my experience and field, but unless I am very much mistaken, what Bayshore is doing comes down to unlicensed sale of securities, and the legal term for it escapes me now, but basicially solicitation to sell an unlicensed / unregistered security, and I am pretty sure that even Hedge Funds have to be registered before they can be sold, and is more than a bit illegal both at the state and fed levels. We won't even get in to the actual fraud issues here.

At this point, the only RV that is going to hit the Dinar, if and when it ever actually happens, is going to be a negative split, with so many thousands(fill in very large number) being equal to a dollar, not the other way around. That of course would imply Iraq having a viable and sustainable gov't and economy, and I also don't see that happening anytime in the foreseeable future either.

Yes, I believe it's illegal too (if it quacks like a duck...) but that doesn't mean law enforcement will pursue them. Dove did illegal fund raising for years and even though she ripped this elderly lady from San Fran off for $100k Dove was free 'til she died (if indeed, she's still dead). It's the "under the radar and with people who are crazy and paranoid" effect we've talked about here. However, if somebody would start to raise a fuss, who knows what triggers might be exceeded and then law enforcement would pursue them. I'm writing letters (not e-mails) about Dinar Daddy and I invite all of you to do so too.

As for the latest hot news -

Dinar Intel Updates - 4-11-11

[bhusker] Elsie no
[JBK] bhusker let me guess..hmmmmmmm.. Soon...lol
[gemco2] Kansas51 yes, it all does seem to line up...beautifully, I might add! we should all be excited and stay that way! won't be long now before we all see it in our bank accounts. cheer up folks!
[sully2781] onemore: [getrdone] wUSHOCK [studley] There has NEVER been a rv on a monday, however, I have 7 confirmations from the leaders of WB, IMF, WTO, BIS, and 3 major banks this is coming down this week, that doesn't mean it is GUARANTEED, RQ, Okie, and PTR have great info but they don't really understand the intricasies of currencies, and how they work, currency trading , especially a revaluation is a moving target, with a lot of moving parts, the RV has to go off perfectly in a split second otherwise, major money managers can manipulate this market [studley] I'm trying to give u guys basic rules of currency trading so you can calm down, and not freak out when dates and rates pass, yourwelcome guys [getrdone] [studley] optimal time for this to happen is Tuesday through thursday because the BIS can test the system before and after the RV happens, I know they are still testing the system, they are making sure this is released simultaneously in ALL markets and correctly, we have confirmation of this
[Red Lily] fbunn yesssss don't get me started
[sing4u2] toby you have intel?
[fbunn] Red Lily - Rolling Stones - "Start me up!"
[smabes] Korben Dallas Where was this posted by Oakie?
[smabes] orum or chat
[JBK] EFH you chicken?

SirTitus:
Interesting item from the forum.....Bank of America indicated to me that 1) They recommend you open a new account just for the receipt of the wire funds 2) DO NOT immediately begin WIRE transactions OUT of that account for 30 days...write checks or obtain cashier checks. The BofA security services officer that I spoke said that ANY account at any bank that has received a $500,000 wire of funds and begins wire activity within 30 days will automatically trigger a lockout based on the new federal home land regulations imposed on US banks. These are the types of activity they look for in potential money laundering activity.
jackbomb:

Posted by John MacHaffie at 4:54 AM 0 comments

[Deep Knight]

Tuesday, April 12, 2011
Dinar Intel Update - 4-12-11
Okie's post 4-12-11

[OKIE_OIL_MAN] GOOD MORNING AMERICA AND SHIPS AT SEA AND ALL OUR FOREIGN FRIENDS. THIS POST IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT IN APPROACH-COMPOSITION-STYLE AND MANNER OF POST. TO YOU THAT ONLY ARE INTERESTED IN DATE AND RATE--STOP RIGHT HERE AND GO NO FURTHER………. STARTING TODAY WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO ANALIZE JUST WHAT IS-WHAT HAS-AND WHAT WILL TAKE PLACE REGARDING IRAQ PROPER. I HAD A ENLIGHTNING INFORMATIVE REVELATION GIVEN TO ME LAST NIGHT BY A MIND FAR SUPERIOR TO MINE AND WILL ATTEMPT TO SHARE SOME WISDOM AND INFORMATION THAT HE (OR SHE) SHARED WITH ME. THIS STORY HAS A BEGINNING BUT THUS FAR HAS NO END BUT THE END RESULT WILL BECOME APPARENT.

FIRST OF ALL--YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO VISUALIZE WITH ME AND LOOK AT THIS STORY AS BEING THE LADY WITH A BLIND-FOLD ON HER EYES HOLDING A BALANCE SCALE (LADY JUSTICE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE BLIND FOR EVALUATION PURPOSES) WE WILL NOW TRY THE SCALE--WE PUT A LITTLE WEIGHT ON 1 SIDE AND THE SCALE GOES DOWN--WE NOW HAVE TO FIND A COUNTER WEIGHT TO PUT ON THE OTHER SIDE TO COUNTER-BALANCE.

THAT BEING SAID--NOW LETS LOOK AT WHAT THE WEIGHT CONSISTS OF AND HOW IT WILL BALANCE OUT EVENTUALLY. THERE ARE POWERS IN THIS WORLD THAT UP UNTIL NOW HAS HAD THE POWER TO INFLUENCE GOVERMENTS-POLITICAL DECISSIONS--WAR'S --AND EVEN THE ECONOMIC STRUCTURE OF THE ENTIRE WORLD. THESE POWERS LET'S CALL THE DARK SIDE—NOW ON THE OTHER SIDE IS AN APPROACH OF A NEW ENTITY THAT IS GOING TO TRY AND IS IN IT'S INITIAL STAGE OF COUNTER-BALANCING THESE DARK SIDE POWERS.—

THAT IN ESSENCE IS WHERE WE ARE AT NOW--THOSE THAT HAD COMPLETE CONTROL OVER THE ENTIRE WORLD STAGE IS EXITING LEFT STAGE TO PERMIT THIS NEW ENTITY TO TAKE CHARGE WE WILL CALL THE LIGHT SIDE OF THE SPECTRUM--THERE HAS BEEN AN UNKNOWN CONCERTED EFFORT BECAUSE OF THE PROFITABILITY OF A RE-EVALUATION OF MANY WORLD CURRIENCIES NOT HAVING ALLOWED THIS TO TAKE PLACE BUT NOW THOSE ENTITY'S HAS MET THEIR MATCH AND THE SCALE IS TRYING TO GET BACK TO EQUILIBRUM BY THE LIGHT SIDE AND CO-OPERATION WITH NEWLY ESTABLISHED POWERS THAT HAS A COUNTER ACTING EFFECT.

THIS IS A SPIRITUAL BATTLE AS WELL AS A PHYSICAL BATTLE AND THE EVENTUAL OUTCOME WILL SUCCESSFUL. THESE DARK SIDE ENTITYS (YOU KNOW WHOM I REFER TOO) IS IN THEIR DEATH THROES AND IS GRASPING FOR BREATH AND WHATEVER CONTROL THEY CAN SALVAGE. WE ARE AT A POINT IN HISTORY THAT GOOD FINNALLY WILL WIN OUT OVER BAD AND THE LADY OF JUSTICE WILL BE ABLE TO REMOVE HER BLIND-FOLD AND SEE WHAT HAS OCCURED AND RENDERED HER VERDICT OF BEING---GUILTY--GUILTY OF GOOD OVERCOMING EVIL. THE POWERS THAT HAS INFLUENCED ALL OUR LIVES IS A FADING ENTITY. BRIEFLY -------------THE RATE AND DATE IS FINISHED.

ADDENDUM TO POST-THE GENIUS I SPOKE WITH LAST NIGHT HAS BEEN THRU 4 R/V'S AND IS A NOTED AND BRILLIANT ECONOMIST AND INVESTOR--HE MADE A STATEMENT THAT I HAD NEVER CONSIDERED BEFORE--AND THAT WAS--NO R/V HAD EVER TAKEN PLACE IN HISTORY UNLESS IT OCCURED BETWEEN A TUESDAY AND THURSDAY

Guys and Gals:
The bank rate is, according to the e-mail, $6.02 and the redemption rate at Dinar Banker and places like that is over $7.00

Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 2:34 PM
Subject: Pinging has stopped. Rate is fixed.
All the pinging has stopped
The rate is out there to all banks
Whatever process it takes from there to us seeing it.
It is out of Iraq and US's hands
All of the banks have it
It is out of Iraq, US everything .......
It is a good thing that the pinging has stoppedThomson Reuters: It stopped at $6.02. This is the bank rate

Posted by John MacHaffie at 3:16 PM
2 comments:
Anonymous said...
Wow, here's an extremely interesting chat.

Please post it when you get the chance.

Thanks John. . .

* Enorrste Chat: G.E.T. 4/12/11

http://iraqidinarnews.net/blog/2011/04/ ... e-t-41211/

April 12, 2011 10:41 PM
Anonymous said...
John,
What? How much? Please, go pull up this chart.

http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from= ... D&view=10Y

See the 10yr to 1 day(13th April 2011) Chart - the IQD chart shows where 1 IQD was worth $3.21647 up until 2004 on May 9th, then on 2004 May 15th the IQD was worth $0.000690 USD.
Now the current rate seems to be $0.00086

Granted the exchange rate was bouncing around $0.00068 as a low back in 2006 25th-28th Aug.
And that was the cheapest time to purchase IQDs before the September 2006 rise in value that has now reached about $0.00086 to 1 IQD.
So, what is this $7.00 or $6.02 per IQD?
Is it per 10,000 IQD which would yield about ~$8.60?
If you click the bottom buttons [12h], and [1D] 1day buttons you will see that the rate is not fixed and stable at the rate shown on the top of the graph.
I don't see any windfall yet, maybe I am blind.
DE

April 12, 2011 11:35 PM

If this genius has been through 4 RVs then I suggest he buy better models.

[notorial dissent]

What I want to know, and may have missed amongst the flurry of out and out gibberish that the dearly delusional have been posting, is what are they going to base this so called miracle RV on? So far I have seen nothing to indicate that there is nothing to base any of it on, since there has been no change in the backing of the country or the currency, so just where is all this money going to come from to prop up the dinar? As far as I can see, if anything it is likely to devalue further as time goes on.

I just love all the sure fire intelligence reports these geniuses keep coming up with, they are almost as good as the NESARA nonsense, and make about as much sense, and have as much relation to reality as those do.

[Gregg]

Hey, they have $50 bn in foreign reserves, and they want to (@ $6 per) RV the currency to $162 trillion (more money than even exists)! They say ''we got oil!" which if they sold it all at once would be $10 trillion, ans even that means pumping enough that no one else can for 4 years (hey, that won't affect PPB will it?) Not too mention the fact that Iraq is really a poor country (GDP is less than half of Mexico).

Stupid is as....

[Deep Knight]

The Rap-Nesara forum was messed up yesterday (I blame either the Illuminati or MacHaffie's incompetence, guess which), but today I could get the latest news, 2 days old.

Thursday, April 14, 2011
Dinar Intel -- 4-13-11
BondLady] im gonna tell yall some stuff[BondLady] its pretty powerful and i can almost tell yall when this is gonna get done no dates nor rates
[BondLady] but a even closer window than ive told yall already cause i know what has to be done and in what order now
[BondLady] ok here goes
[BondLady] or talk to me as im gonna try to keep all this straight
[BondLady] ok
[BondLady] for the most part when we see any kind of articles
[BondLady] that has to do with the iraq dinar
[BondLady] we dont see many
[BondLady] we see a couple on a couple of news sites
[BondLady] never all the news sites weve see the raiseing of the 000
[BondLady] so far since that article came out 2 days ago
[BondLady] ive probably seen at least 30 different news sites carrying the same article with maybe a little bit of variance to it
[BondLady] theres a reason for this
[BondLady] in the article the 1st 1 where it said
[BondLady] cbi does a strategic move
[BondLady] and it goes on to talk about raiseing the 000
[BondLady] it wasnt sayin a strategic move to raise the 000
[BondLady] he was sayin the cbi is doing a strategic move by realesing the cbi's intention about the stage and the critical time at hand
[BondLady] to rv and redenominate
[BondLady] he gave this to all of these news sites so this would put pressure
[BondLady] on maliki to complete the goi
[BondLady] because until the goi is complete
[BondLady] the cbi cannot release the lower denoms and rv nor can he curb inflation
[BondLady] and since maliki would rather drag his feet and not set the government
[BondLady] to hold on to the comaner in chief power of min of defence
[BondLady] it has forced shabibi to make a strategic move
[BondLady] and release all this info to not only iraq but to us
[BondLady] sooooooooooooooo
[BondLady] takein a chance by doin this
[BondLady] of damageing the economy
[BondLady] but
[BondLady] also in forceing maliki to set the government
[BondLady] now im gonna show u proof
[BondLady] that the government has to be seated before we can have the rv
[BondLady] also the rumor steve put out
[BondLady] its partially true
[BondLady] but he misinturpreted it
[BondLady] so its not exactly right
[BondLady] let me get back to this and show u why the goi has to be set
[BondLady] in fact
[BondLady] let me show the whole article 1st
[BondLady] then i will break it down this is for copy purposes
[BondLady] CBE: Council of Representatives decides to raise zeros from currency Posted 14/04/2011 07:59 AM Baghdad: adviser said the CBI, said the House of Representatives is the owner of the latest decision to raise zeros from the local currency or not
[BondLady] He said the appearance of Mohammed Saleh (AKnews) that "the Central Bank of Iraq has to submit a law regulating the process of lifting and sends it to the presidency of the Council of Ministers and then to the House of Representatives to decide then, if there is a patchwork need to raise three zeroes from the local currency or not." He added that "the central bank works to write a law regulating mechanism for lifting the three zeros and the valuation of local currency in circulation external economic and internal
[BondLady] Announced that the Iraqi Finance Ministry in February Fberairalmadi to delete the zeros of the local currency will liberate the Iraqi economy from the constraints and enhance the value of the Iraqi dinar in the International Monetary Fund. And Saleh, said that "the central bank deal with this issue cautiously and Tan, because it may cause economic problems in the event of rush or do anything else confuse the economic situation in Iraq." In the opinion of the Central Bank, the process of lifting the three zeroes from the local currency is a complex process and need to extensive economic study
[BondLady] He expressed the IMF last August to support the Iraqi economy in the event of his a number of economic measures, including privatization of banks and raise three zeroes from the local currency and to meet debt and compensation is the responsibility of Iraq. The Iraqi government has denied any change on the local currency this year in order to reduce inflation. The news had recently indicated that the Iraqi government plans to make changes to the local currency, including raising three zeros in order to reduce inflation suffered by the Iraqi market, as well as the Kurdish language in addition to paper currency. The local Iraqi currency has gone through several changes in its history, most recently in 2004 when the former Governing Council replaced the previous currency, which was a symbol of the former regime. http://www.alesbuyia.com ••• ID=26065
[BondLady] ok kinda looks like all the other 000 articles dont it
[BondLady] but its not
[BondLady] it tells us with in this article
[BondLady] the 3 steps it takes to redenominate and to rv
[BondLady] ill show u now
[BondLady] step 1
[BondLady] the Central Bank of Iraq has to submit a law regulating the process of lifting
[BondLady] step 2
[BondLady] and sends it to the presidency of the Council of Ministers
[BondLady] step 3
[BondLady] and then to the House of Representatives to decide then, if there is a patchwork need to raise three zeroes from the local currency or not
[BondLady] do u see
[BondLady] 1 cbi makes the law
[BondLady] step 2 he gives it to the goi ministers
[BondLady] step 3 the ministers gives it to the house of represenatives to pass
[BondLady] see 1,2 , 3,
[BondLady] now
[BondLady] He added that "the central bank works to write a law regulating mechanism for lifting the three zeros and the valuation of local currency in circulation external economic and internal
[BondLady] the valuation of local currency
[BondLady] also how much is in circulation external and external
[BondLady] what he wants the value to be and agree on the lifting of the 000 to replace it with the ld's
[BondLady] for shabibi to do something so huge as this
[BondLady] inflation must be almost 10%
[BondLady] in jan it was 2.3%
[BondLady] in feb it raised to 5.5%
[BondLady] i dont even know what it was in march
[BondLady] but by shabibi doing this it has to be close to double digets now
[BondLady] and shabibi is all about curbing inflation
[BondLady] and with maliki prolonging seating the goi
[BondLady] hendered shabibi from doin this already
[BondLady] so shabibi did a strategic move and played his hand for the world to see
[BondLady] so if inflation eats them up farther
[BondLady] its all on maliki and not shabs who has a perfect record
[BondLady] man this is exciteing
[BondLady] so now we dont have to question why any more we know steps 1,2,and 3 to rv ive just shown u
[BondLady] so when steve said
[BondLady] he saw or heard about it on tv
[BondLady] he misunderstood the interuputaion
[BondLady] this did come out about 3 hrs ago tho
[BondLady] but its sayin what steps its got to take
[BondLady] i dont believe its been sent yet to parliment to be passed
[BondLady] if it was its sitting there on dead time till maliki sets the goi
[BondLady] and he missed that step SEAT THE GOI
[BondLady] u cant pass this law
[BondLady] just like the hcl law
[BondLady] with out a complete government
[BondLady] parliment has given maliki 10 days from sunday last to set his gov
[BondLady] we shall see
[drc1947] bECAUSE IT HAS TO GO THROUGH TH COUNCIL OF MINISTERS, ALL THE MINISTER
[BondLady] im very excited about this news theres nothing left
[BondLady] and this proves it all
[BondLady] yes drc
[BondLady] ty all for letting me share this great news
[BondLady] drops the mic and walks off

Earth to BondLady - if they revalue the currency by making 1000 old Dinars 1 New Dinar (removing 000) then your old Dinars will be worth 1/1000th of a New Dinar, not 1 New Dinar. Sorry.
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4:00 PM [] TODAY ~ Subject: ENORRSTE, 4-14-11 HERE ARE SOME INTERESTING COMMENTS FROM ENORRSTE, AKA THE PROFESSOR [454545] The Professor ..I have reading up..Do you now feel that this can be completed by this time next week? Thanks [Enorrste] 454545 , very encouraging news today here; if Parliament passes today, which it appears that they have done; the RV can be announced anytime thereafter [dinomatic] Silver now $41.88 [magnum] Just on news Obama is again trying to get the tax code changed and pushing again to get rid of Bush tax break within the next couple months [Enorrste] the large notes are already in, so authorizing the pulling in the the large notes is just a formality. [msjeta1] The Professor do you really think that they may have a low rate to start out with and then go up as they get all the notes in? [prstar51] Professor on and off about a yr [Enorrste] prstar51 , sorry, didn't mean to be so flippant; when they pull in the large notes they do the RV; we go to Ty and cash in turning our 25K dinar notes into about $100,000 each This is the end.
4:16 PM)OKIE OIL MAN] GOOD AFTERNOON AMERICA AND SHIPS AT SEA AND ALL OUR INTERNATIONAL FRIENDS. OH BOY--UP 1 HILL AND DOWN 2--I WILL LEAVE IT TO THE BRANIAC'S TO FIGURE THIS SOUND BITE POST OUT. THERE ARE MULTITUDES OF INFORMATION BEING FURNISHED TODAY THAT STATES 1 THING AND THEN INFORMATION RECEIVED THAT CONTRIDICTS THE SAME. 1ST OF ALL I AM SURE BY NOW YOU KNOW SINGAPORE R/V'D LAST NIGHT RAISING THEIR RATE 25% IN 1 FELL SWOOP. I STAND CORRECTED ON PREVIOUS POST ABOUT SHABBI AND CONTENGENCY BEING IN SWITZERLAND TO EXPEDITE THE R/V. I HATE TO SAY IT BUT THEY (IRAQ) THE USA AND THE IMF ARE STILL WORKING ON AN AGREED RATE EVEN THOUGH WE UNDERSTOOD DIFFERENTLY. THE IMF IS CURRENTLY HOLDING A MEETING IN NEW YORK CITY TODAY TO RUN SEVERAL DAYS THAT IN MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SHABBI AND THE M O F WILL ATTEND THE 16TH. STARTING NEXT WEEK AT AN UNSPECIFIED TIME SHABBI AND ADVISORS ARE GOING ON A WORLD TOUR AS SUCH. (BAD DESCRIPTION BUT APPLICABLE) ALSO AT THIS SAME TIME THE IMF IS HOLDING AN ECONOMIC CONFERENCE PRESENTLY IN EITHER EUROPE OR ASIA (COULD NOT FIND OUT WHICH FOR SURE) NOW WE FIND OUT ANOTHER REVELATION THAT THE LOWER DENOMS HAS TO BE APPROVED BY PARLIMENT. IN CONJUNCTION WITH ABOVE INTEL IS THE FACT THAT THOSE THAT HAS BEEN PAID IN IRAQ (GOVERMENT WORKERS) HAS BEEN PAID 715 THOUSAND DINARS WHICH EQUATES TO ABOUT 750 USD. AND ALSO THAT ONLY HALF OF THE EMPLOYEES WERE PAID. THE SMART CARDS THAT HAS BEEN PAID SO FAR AND DISPENSED SO FAR WAS ONLY TO GOI EMPLOYEES AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC WILL BE ISSUED THEIR SMART CARDS THIS COMING SUNDAY.AS TO THE REFLECTION ON THE ABOVE SOUND-BITE POST I AM NEARLY AT A LOSS TO FIGURE WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING ON AND IT'S IMPLICATION TO US AND THE R/V. 1 CAN ONLY HOPE THAT SOME OF THE INTEL IS A DIVERSION AND SOME INTEL IS TRUE--ONLY TIME WILL TELL. WHO KNOWS? THIS R/V MAY SLIP IN THE BACK DOOR WHILE WE ARE LOOKING OUT THE FRONT WINDOW---I LIKE SURPRISES-DON'T YOU? FORGIVE THE LACK OF CONTINUITY IN THIS POST BUT SOME INFORMATION CAN'T BE PUT IN A SUCCESIVE COHESIVE ORDER---LIKE I SAID--BRANIAC'S-ANALYSIS

[5:28:57 PM] seeker-hou: [OKIE_OIL_MAN] BOY NEWS HAPPENS FAST--HERE IS AN ADDENDUM TO POST JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO--CBI HAS JUST SENT FORMAL REQUEST TO PARLIMENT FOR PERMISSION TO REMOVE THE 3 ZEROS-----NO I AM NOT OFF MY MED'S--JUST SHOWS YOU HOW FAST INTEL CAN COME IN---PHONE CALL JUST RECEIVED--BY THE TIME I GET THRU POSTING---ADDITIONAL INTEL COMES POURING IN THAT NEARLY NEGAITES PREVIOUS POST
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5:31 PM [Rich Queen] OK,, listen up. I have been conspicuous in my abscence today. Been sorting the wheat from the chaff as it were. Barring any unforseen complications it is how I have been saying for the last 2 days. We should see the baby's fance sometime in the middle of the night tonight
5:33 PM [Rich Queen] Blossom Well I think this naughty baby was breech afterall Suffice to say we will be cutting the cord in the next 24 hrs
5:35 PM [Rich Queen] Remember something about the "rules of an RV". RV's have never historically happened anytime but between tues/thursday. But this is an historic RV - never in the history of the world have this many currencies RV'd all at once. Hence THIS RV will potentially defy ALL rules. All bets are off
Steve,
Just got off the phone with my contact in Iraq. I have HUGE NEWS!!! The CBI sent a formal request to Parliament about three hours ago to vote on deleting the three zeroes from the currency. This was even put on Iraqi TV as a subtitle that scrolls at the bottom of the screen.

Also, Shabibi is in Switzerland right now. He is in meeting at the BIS bank in Basel. He has approximately 15 people with him. Three or four are his personal advisors, two US Treasury people and other staffers. They will be there one week total. After that they are scheduled to come to the US and then the UK.

Also, The CBI will be dumping the old banking system across Iraq in about a week and starting up the new system.

The RV is at the door step and this ride is almost over. Praise God!! I’ll keep you informed of any new info I receive.

Blessings,

Ray
Posted by John MacHaffie at 11:33 PM

1 comments:
Anonymous said...
"715 THOUSAND DINARS WHICH EQUATES TO ABOUT 750 USD"

I read a currency site that said a million dinar used to be worth about $300000 USD and now you can buy a million dinar for less than $1000.

It also mentioned: The revaluation of the currency is dependent on the Development Fund for Iraq (DFI) protection

Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/5749676

April 15, 2011 3:05 AM

[Deep Knight]

Saturday, April 16, 2011
Dinar Intel Update - 4-15-2011

OKIE_OIL_MAN - 04-15-2011

GOOD DAY AMERICA AND SHIPS AT SEA AND ALL OUR FOREIGN FRIENDS.
WELL, TODAY WAS QUITE A DAY IN THE INTEL WORLD. INTEL WAS SHARED ON A CONFIDENTIAL BASIS AND DETAILS CAN NOT BE POSTED AT THIS EXACT MOMENT. I HAVE SPENT THE DAY WITH ATTORNEYS ... BANKERS ... AND ACCOUNTANTS GETTING TRUST'S ... BANK ACCOUNTS ... OBTAINING EIN NUMBERS FROM THE IRS AND ALL LEGAL MATTERS SETTLED AND SITUATED FOR A BOUNTIFUL BLESSING FORTHCOMING (DOES THAT TELL YOU SOMETHING?).

I HAD AN INDIVIDUAL ASK ME THIS MORNING ... WHAT'S THE JUICE?? ... TO WHICH I STATED ... JUICE ... WHAT JUICE? ... AS OF NOW, ALL THE JUICE HAS BEEN EXTRACTED AND IS READY FOR CONSUMPTION. WE ARE WAITING FOR THE WAITER TO BRING OUR JUICE MOMENTARILY.
I NOW WISH TO PUBLICLY THANK MR. SHABBI ... THE UNITED NATIONS ... THE UN SECURITY COUNCIL ... THE IMF ... THE WORLD BANK ... THE INTERNATIONAL BANK OF SETTLEMENT ... THE IRAQI PARLIMENT AND THE US GOVERMENT FOR THEIR COMPLETED (COMPLECATED) PARTICIPATION IN THIS GLOBAL IMPLICATIONS EVENT. I WISH TO ALSO THANK EVERYONE WHO READS THIS POST FOR YOUR PATIENCE, WHICH WILL BE REWARDED SHORTLY.
THIS HAS NOT BEEN A TONGUE IN CHEEK POST, BUT HAS BEEN A REASSURING POST, WHICH IS VERY SELF EVIDENT, AS TO ITS MEANING.
TO GOD BE THE GLORY AND THANKS FOREVER AND FOREVER ... NUFF SAID ... PERIOD!!! ELAH

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Blaino - 04-15-2011

Citizens, Friends and fellow Dinarians ...
following a day long circuit of calls, conferences, texts and exchanges of information with several high level sources, contacts and associates, both here and abroad ... it appears that things are in a state of flux and positive changes are definitly coming.
I have said before that the main window of opportunity is commencing after 9pm CDT tonight, the time when all American Banks (Banks in America ) are closed, including in Hawaii ... an interesting time. It is also 6am in Baghdad, right after morning prayers for most.
Recall that the PlanetDinar.com Moderator "seeker" told us that this is, as I postulated elsewhere in November, the ideal place and time to communicate a specific message to the maximum number of Iraqi Citizens all at the same time. Hummmm ... Anyway, with so much swirling and so many conflicting rates, times and so on in the mix ... lets choose to observe and record, rather than risk influencing those who observe us, our recommendations, intel, speculation and conversations. I am going to hold off with our next Conf. Call for now, watch the happenings and bring us back together at the opportune moment to share what will then be clearer and of true merit and worth, rather than a shot into the blackness that may hit the mark or possibly create collateral damage, concern and encourage additional delays.
I want to complement all of you on the difficult task of Holding until relieved ... regular people, peeps or folks could never have managed it with the grace, style and congenial attitudes that the Citizens, Mods and staff of PlanetDinar.com have exhibited.
Clearly, Dinarians true and strong! Endeavor to persevere, to win thru in the face of adversity, against overwhelming odds and in spite of the negative influences of those less well equipped to make the cut!
Blaino

Posted by John MacHaffie at 7:46 AM 0 comments

Are the Dinarians evil aliens like the Reptilians, or good aliens like the Siriusians?

[The Observer]

[Deep Knight]

Bold sentences are exciting - I suggest 5 to 10 years!

Tuesday, April 19, 2011
Dinar - More Info
Bold sentences are exciting.
Subject: Dinar - More Monday tidbits
To:

To all our great PD members, this is additional information we can share. We are working on more later today or tomorrow.

As the beautiful sun sets to complete it's day, we can share with you that we are one day closer to our new journey and blessings.

This pretty much confirms that you cannot believe everything you are reading in the news from Iraq. Pretty misleading at times if you ask me.

As promised, I have a new update from our sources. We are working very hard to provide you with the best information we can.

Here is the information from Ray.
Steve,

Just heard from some of my contacts that Parliament will be voting on the Interior and Defense Ministers either Tuesday (our tonight) or Wednesday. This week folks.

The Security Minister will be following that. Also, Parliament voted today to pay the US Government $400 million to settle the Iraq war lawsuits.

Also, they told me that Parliament is not taking 10 days off. They are still there working and will be there working.

Hopefully the Ministers will be seated once and for all. I will report more as I hear it.

Blessings,
Ray

Ray, thank you for all you are doing of us and the time you are spending to help guide us through this complex situation.

Hearing that the ministers are almost completed brings us even close to the completion of the Government.

Again, thank you for all you do in providing us with the best and most factual information around. If I had a hat on I would take it off to you.

God Bless you and your family,
Steve

Rich Queen] silhouette Hiding and resting. OK this was more about a related matter. That will absolutely be fully completed no later than Wednesday so the RV should show up at ANY MINUTE[Rich Queen] ramblinrose Green light given at all levels, and there will be no more word from Poof. Elvis has left the building

Things look like they're heating up, you can feel the energy. This can pop at any time. What Okie is saying is absolutely on the mark. My forex guys who I deal with tell me that this is coming down any time and look for a bait rate, meaning the rate may just come in attractive enough for some and the heavy weights will stand strong. Don't get caught with your pants down is what I was told just now. Be cool and patient. This is gonna be fantastic!!

For the people who do not understand how this can happen $$$$
« on: Today at 03:28:18 PM »
Let me just say that I am not a guru. I do not claim to know when the RV will happen or what rate it will come in at. Does not matter.

So many people have used the abundance of money involved makes it impossible for it to happen.

Let me give you some things to ponder:
There were originally 30 trillion dinar printed. Well over 80% of that amount has been accounted for and is in the hands of Iraq. That leaves 6 trillion dinar out of which US, China, Russia, Brazil and other countries hold a substantial amount of these in their countries. So let us say that there is 1 - 1.5 trillion is out in the hands of regular people, trusts, etc.

How could Iraq possibly cash in this much at one time? They can't! Or Can They?

China and the US have signed agreements that they each will take all of their dinar and all that they cash in from their citizens in OIL @ an agreed upon rate of $ 32.00 per barrel for however long it takes.

Now taking the total of 6 trillion that is supposedly out there which would be multiplied by the rate that we will set at $ 4 just to go from a number of some kind.

So now we have $24,000,000,000,000! Seems like an amount that just will not be possible? Read on. 24 trillion dollars will transform to 750 BILLION barrels of oil @ $32.00. That is what it will cost Iraq to payoff. That is still a lot of money, right? Well, considering that one barrel of oil cost Iraq less than $2.00 per barrel to process which means that Iraq can pay off ALL of the Dinar still out for
$1,500,000,000 while coming out of sanctions, becoming a powerful country and a part of the UN and WTO and go forward.

Being that this RV would basically make it so the US will be able to pay off most or all of their national debt along with the other countries involved would be doing the same making the World Economy would get a tremendous shot in the arm and everyone would be on a better playing field meaning World trade would be enhanced and the US and China emerge as the strongest and Iraq comes out as either the richest or the 2nd richest country in the world.

So, my friends, the RV can happen and actually if you take Iraq's assets, it could actually justify RVing at upwards of $8 - $12 and this calculation would work and still leave Iraq with a smidgen of debt compared to the assets they have. So rest assured that there will BE NO LOP because it is not necessary and it would deflate this entire plan and not help anyone and Iraq would not emerge as a stable government or friend to anyone.

So, poke holes in this if you wish. I would be interested to see what anyone can come up with that will change these numbers. I am not a genius, just an investor that has to reason out everything I invest in to see where the return can come from and how much it can actually reasonably be...

I didn't come up with this plan, but whoever did was a genius. This is historic. People have said to me, "How can you invest so little and gain so much?" Well, not in our lifetime has any country been completely destroyed, government and all with the agenda to build it back up. This plan was IMO in place before the first boot hit the ground in Iraq. It all makes sense.

Please feel free to credibly pick this apart if you can. I have studied this to no end and I keep coming up with the same numbers.

GOD BLESS THE USA
Posted by John MacHaffie at 4:43 AM
1 comments:

MightyMaxMan said...
If I have $4 Million IDQ in an Iraqi Bank, at your $8 to $12 RV, what could this mean for my funds to revalue in US dollars, if and when this RV does in fact take place? Thanks!

April 19, 2011 6:51 PM

In February Iraqi oil exports were only at 100,000 barrels per day, but with full production and a bit of luck are said to be able to go as high as 2.4 million barrels per day. Let's take the bigger number, which means that if this could be reached and sustained 750 billion barrels would only take 856 years to export and pay off these idiots at $4.00 per Dinar (if you believe their calculations, which I don't)! Of course, having only 120 billion barrels of oil reserves in Iraq (2010 estimate, 25% greater than the previous estimate due to new extraction techniques) might be a bit of a problem...

[Pottapaug1938]

Of what use are facts when confronted with a wonderfully deranged, unhinged and incoherent rant like this?

[Gregg]

Now wait just a damn minute here. All that math, that adds up to 856 years, is way too optimistic, unless they are only going to RV the dinars held in private investor's accounts. After all, they're adding up 1.5 trillion dinars, so for their figures to work, the other dinars can't be part of the RV. Which is of course, retarded. They have to RV all the dinars issued, which I have seen published as 27 trillion, which is $108 trillion, or what economist call a 'ggoglefuckinglotta' more money than even exists. I especially like that statement I see more and more of about Iraq is going to be the richest country on earth. A country with less than half the GDP of Mexico, mind you.

But hey, they have $50 B in foreign reserves!

[texino]

I believe that gossip monger Walter Winchell led off his radio program with a burst of telegraphy while saying "Good Evening Mr.& Mrs. America from coast to coast, border to border, and all the ships at sea-let's go to press." I'm sure most here remember Winchell's distinct delivery as he narrated "The Untouchables" TV show. I thought it might be interesting to add this as Winchell was not known as the most accurate or fair news reader and I find it a bit ironic that loud typing dinarian (OAKIE-OIL-MAN) would choose to paraphrase Winchell's style to spread his own brand of nonsense.

[GlimDropper]

I've had a little time to look into Bayshore Capital Investment's Rudolph Coenen and while it was always safe to assume he was being deceptive just on the face of his claims I now feel like I can prove it.

For starters, at about the 16 minute mark of this recording Mr. Coenen claim that he was a Vice President at JP Morgan Chase who personally oversaw a 500 million dollar portfolio. He claims to have left this position in 2005 when health problems resulted in him needing a liver transplant. The fact that he needed the transplant is corroborated by this story in the North County Times newspaper. The story however isn't about a wealthy fund manager with the sort of health insurance an executive in the financial industry might be expected to have, it's about a community coming together to help an unemployed father of four.

TEMECULA —— Life took a sharp turn for Rudolph Coenen when he found out last fall he had Hepatitis C and needed a new liver.

He had to quit his job, accumulated $100,000 in debt from medical bills and may lose his Temecula home where he and his wife are raising their four daughters.

<Snip>

While Coenen anxiously waits for a donor match, friends and neighbors are rallying around his family, planning fund-raisers to help with the burgeoning debt.

Two have been planned so far. The first is Wednesday evening at Stadium Pizza on Highway 79 South. From 5 to 10 p.m, 30 percent of the sales from customers who say they are there for the fund-raiser will go to the family, manager Erika Thomson said.

On Saturday, the Rummage for Rudy community garage sale is scheduled at Red Hawk Elementary School, where three of Coenen's daughters attend.

I'm begging a little patience here, I'm experimenting with hosting sites for audio clips and if it works out This should be a clip from about 45 minutes into the 4-18-11 BH Group confrence call where the call moderator Charlie Emmenecker asks Rudolph Coenen if he needed the money from dinar RV or his Iraqi hedge fund for him to be financially secure Rudy assures us that he and his family are already quite "blessed" in that regard. Is there any reason to doubt him? I believe there is. This is an IRS tax lien filed against Rudy and his wife last July from the 2007 tax year showing $22,804.73 being owed. The notice was signed on July 1st of 2010 and was posted to the Duval County site on the 14th of that month. The same site has no notice of the lien being paid but I'm not sure if that's proof that it hasn't been. Rudy also has something of an off again, on again battle with foreclosure and I'm likewise uncertain of that status.

Rudolph Coenen claims to have a distinguished background with a major brokerage firm but not only is there no evidence to support that claim the evidence that does exist contradicts it. There is ample evidence that he spent some years as a subprime mortgage broker, this for example but that's about as close to high finance is it seems he ever got. Now he claims to be a prosperous investor and respected financial manager but he's beset with tax liens and foreclosure filings. Yet this is the man who Brad Huebner chose as the BH Group resident financial expert to help sell his over priced dinar.

[Deep Knight]

I believe that gossip monger Walter Winchell led off his radio program with a burst of telegraphy while saying "Good Evening Mr.& Mrs. America from coast to coast, border to border, and all the ships at sea-let's go to press." I'm sure most here remember Winchell's distinct delivery as he narrated "The Untouchables" TV show. I thought it might be interesting to add this as Winchell was not known as the most accurate or fair news reader and I find it a bit ironic that loud typing dinarian (OAKIE-OIL-MAN) would choose to paraphrase Winchell's style to spread his own brand of nonsense.

Lee, Rico, Youngblood, do you remember the Untouchables? Or their themesong by Nelson Riddle?

Disclaimer - Series lead Robert Stack was my brother-in-law's first cousin, once removed. He was also a champion skeet shooter and I'm told a really nice guy.