A SECOND 'SUN' AND THE SEVEN YEAR COUNTDOWN

Open discussion forum about NESARA, Dove of Oneness, Patrick Bellringer, Truth Warrior and all the others spinning the NESARA tale. Includes the latest rumors about the Galacticans comings to Earth and Jennifer's blood ozonation machine.

Moderator: Deep Knight

Deep Knight
Posts: 5397
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:42 am
Location: Washington DC

A SECOND 'SUN' AND THE SEVEN YEAR COUNTDOWN

Post by Deep Knight »

From (where else?) Bellringer's site. Better get in right with Hattoon or his starships will leave you behind to be cleansed.

A SECOND 'SUN' AND THE SEVEN YEAR COUNTDOWN

ESU 'JESUS' SANANDA

Ye ones will either be prepared and withstand the time of massive deprivation or ye shall be secured elsewhere until recovery necessary for safety in thy returning.

ESU JESUS SANANDA July 25, 1989

1999

"..."After great misery for mankind an even greater approaches—WHEN THE GREAT CYCLE OF THE CENTURIES—is renewed, it will rain blood, milk, famine, war and disease: In the sky will be seen a fire, dragging a trail of sparks." This will represent the Wormwood of thy Holy book. It will be the relief orb for a great migration of Earth people. Great damage will be inflicted on the place of America for there will ensue an age of "nuclear winter" whereby the sun is darkened and no thing can grow. Ye ones will either be prepared and withstand the time of massive deprivation or ye shall be secured elsewhere until recovery necessary for safety in thy returning.

THE SEVEN YEAR COUNTDOWN

Ye will very soon be watching for a second "sun" to be visible. It will be noted and will remain visible for some seven days of your timing. This will be a sign unto mine ones that thy seven-year countdown has begun. Ye will know ’tis ME. ..."

Resource: 'SPIRAL TO ECONOMIC DISASTER" LIFEBOAT MEASURES -- IF YOU ACT NOW', Chapter 8, Page 65-66, Phoenix Journal 4.
* * *
RM: According to the video below, the first sightings of a second "sun" occurred in Oct. 2003. Are these 2003 sightings around the world the same as foretold by Sananda of a second "sun" in the quotation above? Was a seven year countdown begun in Oct. of 2003 by the Governor of this earth, Sananda? The culmination of a seven year countdown from that date is Oct. 2010. If this is correct, do we each have eight months, perhaps, to prepare and make final decisions; will I stay or will I go?
* * *

Video entitled: Nibiru Segundo Sol Cassia Eller Hercolobus Planet X Nemesis Absinto 2012
[D: This is NOT Niburu, Planet X, or Nemesis.]
VIEW VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw00RRSY4RQ

[Video shows several sun dogs or parhelia, and one double reflection of the sun in a pool]
* * *

Esu Jesus Sananda continues:

"... As ye ones in receiving of this directed message are within the United States of America, I shall share some other prophecies of this great seer which were removed and forbidden circulation by the political wardens.

"In the West, blood runs in streets, night screams out. A populace outraged. Men in warrior garb strike out; Security dies. Victims battle helplessly, but the warriors are supreme in a new dark age of terrible chicanery." Ah so.

Is it not so that ye are in the midst of crime in thy country that it is like the rockets into thy sky—out of control and out of reach of rectification? Criminals will strike out against helpless victims everywhere and the elderly will be targets for the thieves and the blood flows in the streets as the criminal gangs, even unto the children, kill and mutilate. Your law enforcement agencies no longer can contain nor buffer between the criminal and the citizen, especially in thy cities of density. The population will be outraged, but also powerless to stop the hordes of savages who will descend on you with their guns and knives.

And why? "The second millennium minus ten, in the West, multitudes in vertigo. Disorientation reigns among all. A flower to blame. Graves overflow with the young. A royal decree fails and leaders among the ruins. Contamination is everywhere; the land, air and sea is spoiled. Invisible clouds descend on the multitude, unaware. Insidious death. Sickness. Engines of power grind into red dust, acid from the heavens, and a universal color fades."

Pretty blunt without my input, isn’t it? Have ye not a population almost totally dependent on drugs? Narcotics as ye call them will replace alcohol liquor and will cause millions to perish from abuse or crime association therewith. Do ye not think ye are headed to this irreversible point by thy 1990? Do ye not note the pollution which grows daily? The people of the earth will be sick most of the time as ye move along for ye poison thy air with particulate that floats upon the air currents for thousands of miles. Acid from the heavens? I think this needs very little comment.

What of the engines of power grinding into red dust? Well, suffice it to say that when ye have no fuel to run thy factories, machines and other energy-burning engines, ye will cease to be able to use them and this commodity will become so valuable that much bloodshed will happen. Ye will turn again unto the deadliest of all—nuclear, and by this time the criminal element and abuse of substance will be so great that the invisible cloud will contaminate thy country in widespread measure. The physical bodies will deteriorate from radiation poison and it will seep into thy water and thy food stuffs. The blue color of thy heavens will be clouded and distorted by all manner of products.

The flower referred to is the hemp plant and thy opium poppies from whence comes thy most addictive narcotics. Ye are in it, beloved ones, do not hide thine eyes—YE ARE IN IT!

TREASURIES SINK

What of: "The Occident reels. A new revolution, bloodless, engulfs the multitudes. Levies oppress. Leaders quake as the royal coffers are bare and great gold treasuries sink and a comet two years past has crossed the sky." When did Halley’s Comet traverse thy skies? Would it by any chance have been in 1986? What would two years past indicate? 1988 perhaps? Treasuries sink? Debtor nations out of control—thy own in certain collapse—open thine eyes! Do ye not think the levies will be more and more oppressive? There will be a day when the people can no longer pay of taxes and an overwhelming revolt of non-payment will strike your nation. All thy reserves of precious metals (gold) shall be taken from thy storehouses and exhausted in an attempt to save of thy government political center. It will only purchase of thee a tiny bit of "time", it will not alter the course of the path.

THE FALL OF ISRAEL

Let us now consider for a moment, the state of Jewish Israel which ye ones saw fit to reestablish in thy 1948. "A spit of land in the midst of sand and water arms itself against mighty hordes. Robed men descend enmasse masse. Thunderbolts. Lightning. The arrogance of the few melts. Blue waters claim a once powerful nation."

So be it and Selah! Look to your maps. Look to the state of Israel and cast thy minds to that which has already been given unto you even this day. Ye will see in the MidEast, that Israel is really a spit of land with water on one side and sand on the other. It has armed itself against the enemies it has, and is the fourth largest military might in the world in your day. The robed ones will descend upon her and all the arms available cannot save her. Nothing is enough against the hordes of robed ones descending on her. Thunderbolts and lightening are the weapons of war. Israel will be lost and then those who participate will be driven into the ocean—and so it will continue!

DELIVERANCE FOR MOTHER EARTH

Beloved ones, little is the world of men; small indeed is the Earth—yet precious in Our sight, for the Earth surely is a willing servant of the Lord. For long has she been in bondage, and long has she suffered. Long has she served in the capacity of the Footstool of the Father; for long has she served in the capacity of asylum and laboratory, and she is now in quarantine, yet she shall be delivered out. She shall be cleansed and brought out of bondage, and once again she shall send forth Her radiance into the forests of the universe; she shall be a shining orb. She shall bring forth a new generation, and it shall serve The Father and therein she shall know great joy and there will be great rejoicing within the heavenly realms. I tell you surely, the Earth has travailed long in Her sorrow and pain. Now she shall be delivered up.

She shall be delivered up. Be aware of her travail and be prepared to share her joy. Be ones which have suffered and pained with her and ones which shall also be delivered, for it is now come when the Light shall consume the darkness, and the Light shall go forth and all creatures shall be made new. They shall be as they were created to be, for they shall no longer be as the ones bound in darkness. This is mine word upon which I place mine seal this day.

Ye shall rise as on wings of dawn and you shall have the Rod of Power, and it shall serve you true and well. Be as ones in alertness and let peace be within you. MINE PEACE I GIVE UNTO YOU THAT YOU NOT PULL FROM ME IN FEAR AND TRIBULATION. I AM THY ROCK. SO BE IT AND SELAH.

I AM THAT I AM. I AM ESU JESUS IMMANUEL SANANDA

I SHALL FERRY YOU THROUGH THE PASSAGE"

Resource: 'SPIRAL TO ECONOMIC DISASTER LIFE - BOAT MEASURES IF YOU ACT NOW', Chapter 8, Page 66-68, Phoenix Journal 4.

FROM: Rocky Montana

That crazy Sananda, saying things like "This will be a sign unto mine ones" and "Ye shall rise as on wings of dawn and you shall have the Rod of Power" but then reverts to language like "Pretty blunt without my input, isn’t it?" and "The physical bodies will deteriorate from radiation poison." And then there's that second sun which was clearly visible but for some reason 99.999999% of the earth's population missed it.

Sun dog
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A sun dog or sundog (scientific name parhelion, plural parhelia, from Greek parēlion, (παρήλιον), παρά(beside) + ήλιος(sun), "beside the sun"; also called a mock sun) is an atmospheric phenomenon that creates bright spots of light in the sky, often on a luminous ring or halo on either side of the sun formed by ice crystals.

Sundogs may appear as a colored patch of light to the left or right of the sun, 22° (distant and at the same distance above the horizon as the sun, and in ice halos. They can be seen anywhere in the world during any season, but they are not always obvious or bright. Sundogs are best seen and are most conspicuous when the sun is low.
...

Possibly the earliest clear description of a sundog is by Jacob Hutter, who wrote in his Brotherly Faithfulness: Epistles from a Time of Persecution:

My beloved children, I want to tell you that on the day after the departure of our brothers Kuntz and Michel, on a Friday, we saw three suns in the sky for a good long time, about an hour, as well as two rainbows. These had their backs turned toward each other, almost touching in the middle, and their ends pointed away from each other. And this I, Jakob, saw with my own eyes, and many brothers and sisters saw it with me. After a while the two suns and rainbows disappeared, and only the one sun remained. Even though the other two suns were not as bright as the one, they were clearly visible. I feel this was no small miracle …

The observation most likely occurred in Auspitz (Hustopeče), Moravia in very late October or very early November of 1533. The original was written in German and is from a letter originally sent in November 1533 from Auspitz in Moravia to the Adige Valley in Tyrol.

It's October, alright, but it's 1540 not 2010 when the 7-year countdown runs out. Anyone want to check historical records to see if the world was destroyed then?
"Follow the Money"
User avatar
Pottapaug1938
Supreme Prophet (Junior Division)
Posts: 6138
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:26 pm
Location: In the woods, with a Hudson Bay axe in my hands.

Re: A SECOND 'SUN' AND THE SEVEN YEAR COUNTDOWN

Post by Pottapaug1938 »

These people REALLY need to lay off the LSD and other hallucinogens for a while....
"We've been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of the culture." -- Pastor Ray Mummert, Dover, PA, during an attempt to introduce creationism -- er, "intelligent design", into the Dover Public Schools
Deep Knight
Posts: 5397
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:42 am
Location: Washington DC

Re: A SECOND 'SUN' AND THE SEVEN YEAR COUNTDOWN

Post by Deep Knight »

The Resource: "'SPIRAL TO ECONOMIC DISASTER LIFE - BOAT MEASURES IF YOU ACT NOW', Chapter 8, Page 66-68, Phoenix Journal 4." mentioned above can be found at http://fourwinds10.com/journals/pdf/J004.pdf and is from Friday, Sept. 1, 1989. Shouldn't the title have been "Spiral to Economic Disaster Life-Boat Measures if you act any time within the next 21 years?"
"Follow the Money"
Deep Knight
Posts: 5397
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:42 am
Location: Washington DC

Re: A SECOND 'SUN' AND THE SEVEN YEAR COUNTDOWN

Post by Deep Knight »

What true believers are willing to explain away.
Gerard Zwaan wrote:This is an atmospheric phenomena caused indirectly by the presence of Planet X, what we have in the past called the Monster Sun phenomena. When genuine Second Sun sightings occur light is bouncing off the immense dust cloud that shrouds Planet X, bouncing at an angle such that the light goes from the Sun to the cloud thence to Earth. A double reflection can occur during such times where the light going to Earth would not be directly into the viewers eyes, but hit water and ice in the atmosphere bouncing yet again at a tangental angle into a viewers eyes. This is what was occurring in the Poland snaps, and yes the photographer saw this naked eye as reported.

A third example was captured in Padua, Italy on August 24, 2009, at dusk. The cameraman noticed an elongated Sun, and stopped along the highway to film it. There is no question about a reflection on a window pane, as cars passing on the highway can be seen and heard. Headlights are mandatory in Italy on such highways, even in daylight. Per the Zetas, this is a moon swirl capture, where sunlight funnels down a moon swirls and is focused and intensified. Moon swirls have been captured in the past, as often as the corpus of Planet X itself have been captured. Examples from 2003-2005 are from China, Italy, and New York.
ZetaTalk: Second Sun
Note: written during the Apr 19, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

The distinctive appearance of Planet X in the sky, as reported by the ancients, as a fire dragon can already be understood by those viewing Planet X closely, as the swirling moons and dust cloud already give this impression. The appearance has also been described as a second sun, with Egyptian plowmen working their fields under the red cross of Planet X in the daytime sky. In that the placement of Planet X has put it into light pollution at this time, when does this second sun appear, or discernible daylight visibility for that matter? We have, during the Feb 1 IRC, explained that Planet X would be best visible in the daylight during the early dawn, yet for most of the world, viewing the placement in the skies at dawn does not occur until the shift is upon them. Does this mean that daylight visibility will only occur at the last moment? No, and we will explain.

The Red Persona, which made its appearance during the Fall 2002 viewing season as soon as imaging began, is positioned far afield from what has been termed the White Persona, due to the tendency of the red light that characterizes the Red Persona to bend toward gravity influences. Now that color photos are available, it is evident that the what humans term orange is as predominant as red in the color spectrum coming from Planet X. Orange is the color of the rising and setting Sun, preceding the sunrise and lingering in the evening after the Sun has set. This is the red light wave that bends, and is emitted by Planet X, and thus bending of this light can be expected to continue to occur, in greater amounts as it comes closer. In that the orange bends toward gravity, it will not only bend over the core of the Earth as it passes over the Earth on the way to a viewer, it will bend toward the sun!

As can be seen on the graphic done for the Point of Passage page early in ZetaTalk history, Planet X is coming toward the Sun from beneath the Sun, as well as from the side. Thus, the bending red light, orange, bends both up and in predominantly. Those rays that encounter Earth’s gravity will then bend back toward Earth, from a position both above the coordinate position, and closer to the Sun. This allows visibility earlier in the day for the Red Persona, and due to the tendency of orange light to bend, the Red Persona as a second sun will appear on the horizon as a glow well ahead of the visibility of the corpus itself. Will it only be in the dawn that this second sun is identified? Dawn and dusk will be the best times for visibility, and noon the worst, as light pollution is strongest at noon. As with all other viewing, this depends immensely on the viewers location, determination, and clear skies.
It doesn't look like sun dog because it's a sun dog, it looks like that because of bad physics. You know, the sort you learn from watching the SciFi channel, not the kind you get from attending school or reading a book.
"Follow the Money"
texino
Grand Debunker of Medical Quackery
Posts: 548
Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2005 3:08 am

Re: A SECOND 'SUN' AND THE SEVEN YEAR COUNTDOWN

Post by texino »

Great photo of Sananda appears in the epilogue.
ҨTexino₪
Siga el dinero
El camino continúa por siempre, pero el partido nunca termina
texino@gmail.com
Deep Knight
Posts: 5397
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:42 am
Location: Washington DC

Re: A SECOND 'SUN' AND THE SEVEN YEAR COUNTDOWN

Post by Deep Knight »

texino wrote:Great photo of Sananda appears in the epilogue.
Yes, and unfortunately I can't reproduce it here (it looks like a picture of him after he had an accident opening a bottle of ink). Others show this "same" "photo" from Chichen Itza in 1961 (strangely without any background).
Image
and also this one
Image
and these
Image
Image
ESU “JESUS” SANANDA

This reproduction is from an actual photograph taken on June 1, 1961 in Chichen Itza, Yucatan, by one of thirty archaeologists working in the area at the time. Esu Sananda appeared in visible, tangible body and permitted his photograph to be taken.
"Follow the Money"