Peter of England: He’s still F RE?

[Hercule Parrot]

Couldn't he have just used "universal energy" to create the money out of THIN AIR, the way the REal banks do ???

Assuming that they find a lawyer who is prepared to argue in court that a PM or werecheque has real monetary value and should be regarded as legal tender. Surely that lawyer wouldn't miss the obvious necessity of accepting their fee payment by that means? Insisting upon payment in the old, discredited and worthless Sterling currency would be very awkward to explain.

[Wake Up! Productions]

Penis of England posted this on Facebook today:

WeRe All Running out of Time - JOIN WeRe Bank before this fate seals you into a Nightmare!
http://www.globalpost.com/article/67358 ... k-machines

It is so obvious that he operates on FEAR PORN !!! Yes, by now it is undeniable (even the biggest skeptic) that we are in fact headed towards a "cashless society", but PoE is merely attempting to PROFIT from the FEAR of this transition - rather than doing something LAWFUL to stop it.

Three hours earlier he posted this:

VIDEO ABOUT COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT - DEMANDING MONEY FOR THE RETURN OF ONE'S OWN PROPERTY - TRESPASS AND CONVERSION - AND PLAIN OLD PRE-MEDITATED THEFT

"For all those who keep asking me for an update and have NOT bothered to look at the YouTube channel then the video is posted here again. New website will be on-line soon and both Parrot's Feather's are looking distinctly ruffled......much, much more to come, I assure them and you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMIKVur ... e=youtu.be

[Zeke_the_Meek]

In response to an idiot on Facebook, PoE writes:

The problem they have, The shill/troll Parrot brigade and especially the Nevada Registered Twatloosers , is that they never address one single aspect of WeRe Bank's ideology and intent, but simply throw the same dismissive at everything. There NON arguments are just that.

The entire function of this thread so far has been to address every single aspect of "WeRe Bank's ideology and intent." There's nothing you've come up with Petey that isn't absurb from the outset to anyone with a brain in their nut, but we've demolished it all at length regardless. Just because you stick your fingers in your ears and ignore common sense counter-arguments doesn't mean they don't exist.

Never forget that you're the one who refuses to answer any criticisms of your scam and tries to censor anyone who raises them. You've been invited here countless times for a civil discussion.

And the one thing is that WeRe Bank has proved the wrong on EVERY SINGLE PREDICTION THEY HAVE EVER UTTERED!

Not that we're in the business of making predictions (or anything, really,) but...

Predictions Quatloos Has Gotten Wrong:
"Peter's scam must be nearing an end..."

Predictions Peter Has Gotten Wrong:
"The stock market will crash by the end of X"
"I'll be unveiling my car insurance/gold plated notes/class action lawsuits by X"
"Quatloos will be blown to the four corners of the Earth"
"The banking cartel will be kissing my shoes imminently"
"I will provide proof of X by Y"
"I'll be elaborating on this part of my scam soon"
"You will recieve your cheque book by the end of the week"
"WeRe Bank will change the world"

Do they address ever the question of the need for monetary reform? Do they discuss the legality of the promissory notes? Do they discuss the nature of banking under common law etc etc?

1. Do we need to?
2. Yes, at length, and it's bunkum.
3. No, because it's nonsensical.

Do they ever draw breath to complain about ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE SYSTEM WHICH ENSLAVES ALL OF US?

I don't find the ability to get credit or buy a pint of bitter to be particularly enslaving, but how's your 'system' doing?

No! All they do is concentrate on "postal addresses" or "what £35" can do to help make you a millionaire.

Because they're valid questions about your insane operation. Make up your mind - do we question your methodology and intent, or not?

Have they anything constructive to say about anything at all in fact? The answer is NO!

Because there's nothing constructive to say about this enterprise. It's entirely devoid of merit.

They are simple minded MK Ultra mind slaves who couldn't put a good or justifiable proposition on the back of a fag-packet....if they tried.

Here's a justifiable proposal, Petey: stop actively encouraging people into misery and financial ruin just to line your own pockets with filthy fiat money.

ReMember if anyone takes up a position against ANY ORGANISATION/GROUP WHICH SEEKS TO OVERTURN THE STATUS QUO OF BANKING AND FINANCIAL PRACTICES ON THIS PLANET - then they must be logically on the side of that ASPECT. So my enemies friend must by my.........

I know that this is one of your favourite lines, but once again, logic isn't your strong suit. Someone not putting stock into your batshit insane scam does not infer anything about that person's other beliefs or allegiances.

That's who and what they are "The Death Camp Orderlies" willing to do whatever it takes to get for them that extra fag or piece of chocolate - They turn on their own - not knowing who their own are.

Godwin's Law evoked.

Also, I like his repeated use of the word 'fag' here. That must read hilariously to an American audience.

[Seelenblut]

An update to viewtopic.php?f=52&t=10846&start=1160#p222970 ...

The - in German WeRe circles - often referenced "success" story (http://www.welcometofreedom.at/were-ban ... e-erfolge/) received an update which finally admits that the WeRe checks were not accepted (confirming the information in my post).

(Translation from German)
2016.02.19 Update
Sadly we have to report that the note was not accepted after all!!
This can very well have something to do with the attempted takeover by Djjon.

And like I thought before ... the whole takeover affair is now readily used as an excuse. And that the update came one day after the mentioned blog article with the information about the failure was posted is a big coincidence too, I am sure.

I also bit the bullet and listened to some of the recordings from WeRe "sale-meetings" - a core group of German, Austrian and Swiss WeRe gurus is aggressively advertising WeRe right now, mentioning that a Hub for the German-speaking WeRe "customers" is created right now in Vienna (in the German Were Info dropbox a document about the necessary knowledge and info to form a WeRe Hub has appeared, too). While several of them seem to make a solid living from the lectures (those mainly focus on the registry process and very little on the actual use of Were checks), asking for 10 to 35 Euro's from each listener, I would not be surprised if Peter has some form of bonus/share scheme with some of them. And none of the guru's have used WeRe checks themselves so far ... at least they always avoid a direct answer to those questions.

One important aspect of the strong run Were has in German-speaking countries right now is Karin Simon, Peter's German girlfriend he seems to have picked up during the time he worked in Munich. She provides a figure of trust with a direct link to Peter in many of the conversations that happen in German channels.

[Skeleton]

Poe

Do they ever draw breath to complain about ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE SYSTEM WHICH ENSLAVES ALL OF US?

Zeke

I don't find the ability to get credit or buy a pint of bitter to be particularly enslaving, but how's your 'system' doing?

As Zeke correctly points out Peter the fact the majority of us can go and pay for things with real money, or if we don't have any, want but do without means very few are actually "enslaved." One system appears to be working, your system appears to be heading for a car crash, you have been nicely grilled by Parrotte, I still think a disgruntled group of your marks will finish the job though.

[Zeke_the_Meek]

(Translation from German)
2016.02.19 Update
Sadly we have to report that the note was not accepted after all!!
This can very well have something to do with the attempted takeover by Djjon.

And like I thought before ... the whole takeover affair is now readily used as an excuse.

Which raises the question... how would Djon's attempted takeover have affected the acceptance of cheques? A bank wouldn't give two shiny shits as to who's running the operation, just that the cheque is legitimate and can be cleared for payment. A point which none of these morons seem to consider.

[Seelenblut]

Which raises the question... how would Djon's attempted takeover have affected the acceptance of cheques? A bank wouldn't give two shiny shits as to who's running the operation, just that the cheque is legitimate and can be cleared for payment. A point which none of these morons seem to consider.

I would say, with many of the "victims" it is simply because they want to believe it works ... and they want to hear an excuse when it doesn't, so they can continue to believe.

Listening to lecture recordings or reading chat protocols I am always amazed to see how everybody is willing to accept the flimsiest of explanations or excuses when anything negative is brought up, how there is absolutely no effort to inquire further in those cases and that most of the time the ones facing the problems are the first and most eager to look for explanations that keep the blame everywhere except on Were and Peter. I always assumed you need to be a brilliant orator and liar to be a good scammer, but not with this crowd.

You can say a lot of negative things against Peter, but by pure genius - or coincidence - he has found the most gullible of all scam victims.

[PeanutGallery]

I would concur with the above, based on my experience they are looking for someone to play the villain, someone to be the big evil oppressor, Peter has for a long time cast us in that role given us a nickname (a reference which a great deal of his marks don't even get) and from what he has said and written I know he has read this thread.

The first time the cheques didn't work they blamed it on us, we were the evil paid zionist lackeys out doing the new world orders bidding for our reptilian illuminati jesuit overlords, or what have you.

But now that Parotte has broken ranks, although it seems he either wants to chop Pete's dollar or is deluded enough to think Peters got the right idea but is the wrong man, he makes a much better scapegoat. A better villain.

Of course they won't consider that the reason the cheques/promissory notes/made up pieces of paper are worthless because that would bring the whole stack of cards tumbling down. Finally they already believe in evil zionist reptilian illuminati jesuit overlords who are conspiring to enslave them with debt, so any failure of the cheques to work is because said villains are breaking the rules. They have (as I have said before) imagined the machine they rage against and any failure is an act of that fictional conspiracy. This means that whatever happens with a cheque, it will only serve to reinforce a belief that they are onto something, if it fails it's because it can't be allowed to work, not because it doesn't work.

As for them wanting to believe it works, I think a parallel can be drawn between those who have swallowed Peter's woo and the testimonies available on the thinkjessica website.

[notorial dissent]

I think we should have a permanent list of just what our dear friend and provider of unintended free comedy PoE has accomplished and not accomplished if for no other reason than novelty’s sake, and of course to have soemthing to rub his nose in.


Predicted/claimed

• The stock market will crash by the end of X - DIDN’T HAPPEN
  I'll be unveiling my car insurance/gold plated notes/class action lawsuits by X - DIDN’T HAPPEN
  Quatloos will be blown to the four corners of the Earth - DIDN’T HAPPEN still very much there and still telling the truth about PoE
  The banking cartel will be kissing my shoes imminently - DIDN’T HAPPEN and never will
  I will provide proof of X by Y - DIDN’T HAPPEN
  I'll be elaborating on this part of my scam soon - DIDN’T HAPPEN
  You will receive your cheque book by the end of the week - DIDN’T HAPPEN
  WeRe Bank will change the world - DIDN’T HAPPEN the world has yet to notice
  WeRe Bank “legal tender notes” that EVERYONE will have to take - DIDN’T HAPPEN and WILL NEVER EVER HAPPEN
  WeRe Bank was going to sweep the US - DIDN’T HAPPEN

What has PoE has accomplished

• PoE has lost ALL banking access, even from the skeeziest of suppliers and is reduced to taking those awful toxic pound notes he keeps claiming are worthless but are the only thing he’ll accept to buy in to his scheme
  
  he’s managed to be declared “officially” NOT A BANK by the financial authorities in 4 countries now, England, Ireland, Germany, and Austria the last I checked, Canada and Australia seem to be lagging well behind the curve as usual, probably the US as well but I haven’t seen an official announcement of it yet
  
  he’s now managed to scam at the very least several hundred to several thousand people out of £35 and will eventually cost them what little of their credit ratings they have
  
  at least one person, in Canada lost their home after trying to pay off with a WeReNotACheck
  
  if the reports from UK are accurate there are several people facing various serious legal entanglements for having tried to pay off things with WeReNotACheck’s, many of these Council fees, fines, and such and could now be facing some real jail time for their efforts
  
  One person in Chicago finished trashing her credit rating and got expelled from public housing for her efforts
  
  at least one person, and probably several, in Germany now facing criminal investigation for having tried to use a WeReNotACheck to pay off something, and the appearance that there are now several more, I would expect the Austrian authorities are not far behind
  
  he actually managed to lose control of his scam website and may or may not have lost control of his scam altogether although he does seem to be fighting back now

So, all things considered, quite a list of accomplishments, just not ones to really brag about.

If I've missed anything do let me know, I'd like to keep this updated.

[Zeke_the_Meek]

More freeman-related, social responsibility-shirking from good ol' Jimmy Wales. Here, he recommends straight up fraud as a method of escaping debt by changing one's name and 'disappearing'... twice:

http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org/forum/v ... sxPy5OLQUE
http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org/forum/v ... 90#p445458

Jimmy's the kind of ass-taxi that will try this kind of stuff himself, and coupled with his room-temperature level IQ, I won't be surprised when he winds up in the dock for some serious charges. He's already been gleefully ruining his own credit with WeRe cheques (for substantial amounts), so in his quest for free stuff, he'll get desperate and commit theft and/or fraud sooner or later.

[Zeke_the_Meek]

Behind the scenes of the Mustard Wars!

Josh Parrotte shared some interesting correspondence between himself and PoG to the Were Bank Is a Con FB page. Read the first page, then go from the bottom up:

http://bit.ly/1TwUGjF

The fact that Josh still is concerned about what happens to his 5,000 Re at this point suggests that he's not 'in' on the scam or trying to take it over, but rather a genuinely disilusioned mark who has grown tired of Pete's rhetoric. He's asking pointed questions and on the verge of seeing the man behind the curtain, but not quite willing to let go of the ideology just yet.

As is usual, Peter responds to logic with psychotic rambling, non-sequiters and threats. I know the talk of the freemen reporting each other the the authorities is utterly laughable, but Peter sending this guy's photo and information to his posse is very serious indeed and I suspect Josh would have a legitimate harassment case against him.

[Pox]

Behind the scenes of the Mustard Wars!

Josh Parrotte shared some interesting correspondence between himself and PoG to the Were Bank Is a Con FB page. Read the first page, then go from the bottom up:

http://bit.ly/1TwUGjF

.

It's probably my antiquated system but I can't view the doc - shame, wanted a laugh while waiting for supper to cook.

[rumpelstilzchen]

Doesn't work for me.

[mufc1959]

Behind the scenes of the Mustard Wars!

Josh Parrotte shared some interesting correspondence between himself and PoG to the Were Bank Is a Con FB page. Read the first page, then go from the bottom up:

http://bit.ly/1TwUGjF

.

It's probably my antiquated system but I can't view the doc - shame, wanted a laugh while waiting for supper to cook.

Here it is, uploaded to a .pdf host. Read it from the bottom up. (Matron!)

https://www.docdroid.net/dhftaQA/peter.pdf.html

[Pox]

Here it is, uploaded to a .pdf host. Read it from the bottom up. (Matron!)

https://www.docdroid.net/dhftaQA/peter.pdf.html

Many thanks!.

[littleFred]

If anyone wants a copy of Peter's stuff on werebank.com, they should grab it before it is "cleansed", I assume by one or more of the Parrottes. See http://www.werebank.com/wp-content/uplo ... nsed-3.pdf

Confusingly, they refer to Peter as "Peter Michael Alan Smith" and "Michael Peter Alan Smith". Peter himself says his full name is "Alan Peter Michael Smith".

[NYGman]

If anyone wants a copy of Peter's stuff on werebank.com, they should grab it before it is "cleansed", I assume by one or more of the Parrottes. See http://www.werebank.com/wp-content/uplo ... nsed-3.pdf

It is funny, I was going to access this from work, but I get the following block message from our web filtering software:

http://www.werebank.com
Webfilter Category: Scam/Questionable/Illegal

Maybe Peter Parrot needs to have a word with the filter people, as they have branded his site a Scam, and we all know it is a legitimate bank.

[Jeffrey]

Confusingly, they refer to Peter as "Peter Michael Alan Smith" and "Michael Peter Alan Smith". Peter himself says his full name is "Alan Peter Michael Smith".

I've said it before, nobody actually knows the guys real name, which is bizarre.

[Pox]

Is the general consensus that this spat between POE and Parotte is still a fabrication to place the failings of the 'bank' on outside treason or whatever (as muted earlier)?

I'm beginning to think that it could be for real.

[Zeke_the_Meek]

Is the general consensus that this spat between POE and Parotte is still a fabrication to place the failings of the 'bank' on outside treason or whatever (as muted earlier)?

I'm beginning to think that it could be for real.

I've never thought that was the case. It's too elaborate, and would have been too smart a move for Peter to pull.

That said, he is (predictably) using the situation for all its worth and using the Djon/Josh as a scapegoat after the fact.