Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

[notorial dissent]

Getting shriller, and weirder, if possible.

[woodworker]

Jesus f'ing Christ how hard is it to understand if you're in a car and a copper asks your name, its an offense to refuse to do so.

Sometimes I wonder how these morons get themselves dressed in the morning!

I am not altogether convinced they do having seen pictures of some of them. I think they just pick up whatever they can that they can find on the floor.

I think the HJR 192 fantasy is right up there with the UCC fantasy that the sovcits and footls have latched on to. Neither of those items mean or contain what they seem to think they do, or have any authority or standing outside the borders of the US.

That hurts my feelings. I try, I really do try, to at least look in the closet first.

[woodworker]

I thought Peter was beginning to realise that banks are not obliged to accept his pretty pieces of paper, and that they don't. But it seems Peter still thinks they should. From the video "Peter of England" verarscht mt der "WeRe Bank" ein paar Deppen, at 16m 05s:

Therefore the LLTs are perfect for paying that because the Uniform Commercial Code, article 3 negotiable instruments, USC article 12, United States Code, these are valid financial instruments and cannot be refused. And if they refuse them, you have to say, "Why is white white in your system, but why is white not white in our system?" [...] Therefore if you hand an LLT over to some organisation to pay an obligation, it's paid, it's finished, it's over, it's ended.

Then at 21m 30s, after a caller says a bank refused to accept LLTs:

Why did they refuse? That's the question. You people have got to be more persistent. Why are they refusing? Do they not want money? Look at the Bills of Exchange Act, the International Bills of Exchange Act, International Bills of Exchange and Promissory Notes, Bills of Exchange Act 182 sections 42 and 43, it stipulates, you must present and you must accept. If you do neither, the debt is cancelled. There is an obligation of honour. Think about it. Honour. Are the banks being honourable when they refuse?

I know nothing about German law. It may have something similar to the UK BoE 1882. But UK and US laws don't apply in Germany. There is no point in telling German banks about UK or US laws.

At about 41m 15s, Peter claims the US IRS has accepted LLTs. It is possible that the IRS has tried to get WeRe to honour cheques/LLTs. But Peter won't have honoured them, so the debts will remain.

About 49m 50s: police visited "Volk1959", accusing him of "money-washing". I suppose we would call that "money-laundering".

About 53m, Peter mentions Anthony Carlin in Belfast, trying to arrest the judge.

1h 05m: the caller was convicted of fraud 6 weeks ago over two LLTs, 3500 and nearly 7000 Euros. He has lodged an appeal and wants Peter as a witness. Peters says yes, but only as a "special appearance", as "Peter of England", not as his passport-name. "We will put in a claim for damages when we win," Peter says.

1h 20m: Peter is setting up a Common Law Court of Record on Land. [I thought he already had one? Was he lying about that? Oh dear.]

EDIT typos in the timings.

But, but, but the UCC says "Uniform Commercial Code." Doesn't Uniform mean it applies everywhere, or maybe just in banks where they wear uniforms. That would make as much sense as Pisser's arguments. And of course the USC applies because of Bretton Woods, or maybe it was Birnam Woods, that would make as much sense. No, No, I have it now. President Obama issued an Executive Order and, of course, his Executive Orders apply to all executives.

[Zeke_the_Meek]

Peter's clearly on an off-meds week.

Roman Numeral Xi (XI) = 11 = President Xi
President 11 = President XI
AIIB = Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank = Solomonic Kabbalistic Numerology encoded as follows: -
A = Aleph but can be Tav so 1 or 22
B = bet 2 or 21 so
AIIB = 22112 for "Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank" read as follows: This is a direct numerological clone of the 11 Symbol of Twin Towers, 11 Downing Street, Armistice Date of WW1 11/11/11
Treasury Secretary Jacob J. Lew Remarks On U.S.-China Economic Relations At the American Enterprise Institute
Jacob Lew by the way isn't a catholic as you may suspect from his moniker:

Et cetera.

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[PeanutGallery]

Peter's clearly on an off-meds week.

That suggests that at times he actually takes his medication, or even is aware that he might benefit from it.

I've been reading up a bit on cults lately, and I think that their are some similarities in the way these Guru's operate and how a cult is formed. Fortunately for his victims Peter hasn't started to do some of the really really messed up stuff, or at least hasn't started that yet.

[longdog]

Peter's clearly on an off-meds week.

Armistice Date of WW1 11/11/11

I'm no expert and I might have to check with my mate who has a history doctorate but I'm fairly sure the armistice came at the end of the war not three years before the start

[notorial dissent]

11th hour of 11th day of 11th month.

[longdog]

11th hour of 11th day of 11th month.

Indeed but that would be 11:00 11/11/18 not 11/11/11 and he says 'date' not 'time'

[TheNewSaint]

What I love is how snobbish Peter is throughout the entire call. Like it's beneath him to have to answer these petty questions from paying customers. You get the strong suspicion that this is all purely to feed his ego.

Peter's product simply does not work as advertised. Any attempt to provide proper customer service would only draw attention to that fact. So he blames the banks, blames the government, blames the customers for not following his instructions (which are completely inconsistent), blames everybody but his own scheme.

Also, I think that kind of personality is necessary for this scam to work. Peter's act is that he knows more about financial law than the banks and government themselves. No one would believe something that fantastic unless you were completely overbearing about it.

[Dr. Caligari]

Indeed but that would be 11:00 11/11/18 not 11/11/11 and he says 'date' not 'time'

The Armistice which ended WWI was actually at 11:11 on 11/11/18.

[Hercule Parrot]

Peter's clearly on an off-meds week.

Roman Numeral Xi (XI) = 11 = President Xi
President 11 = President XI
AIIB = Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank = Solomonic Kabbalistic Numerology encoded as follows: -
A = Aleph but can be Tav so 1 or 22
B = bet 2 or 21 so
AIIB = 22112 for "Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank" read as follows: This is a direct numerological clone of the 11 Symbol of Twin Towers, 11 Downing Street, Armistice Date of WW1 11/11/11
Treasury Secretary Jacob J. Lew Remarks On U.S.-China Economic Relations At the American Enterprise Institute
Jacob Lew by the way isn't a catholic as you may suspect from his moniker:

I sometimes think he's just making this stuff up at random, to keep the "greedy gullibles" dazzled.

[Gregg]

Despite being an American, I'm almost positive that one of the things I learned during my stay in England was that your famous government address (aside from the palaces and castles) was #10 Downing Street. I'm sure I walked by and visited it in Whitehall once. But what is this 11 Downing Street, aside from the flat across the street?

[littleFred]

The Chancellor of the Exchequer lives in number 11.

[FatGambit]

Slightly ironic that #11 is a much bigger property than #10.

[exiledscouser]

And those Satanic heavy metal specialists Spinal Tap. They go to 11 too.

It's one louder than 10.

[littleFred]

Didn't a recent Prime Minister swap with his Chancellor, as they both had the wrong size of families? Or one of them wanted to save on bedroom tax or something? Anyhow, back to the topic:

On his FB on 15th June:

SSL Cert being upgraded - should be remedied in about 2 - 4 hours

That was 5 days ago. Still broken. I suppose he hasn't anyone technical on board.

[AndyPandy]

That was 5 days ago. Still broken. I suppose he hasn't anyone technical on board.

I wouldn't have thought so, after all if he did they might steal his scam

[Fearnchase]

It's been down for maintenence for two days......

[Forsyth]

It's been down for maintenence for two days......

Well, someone's managed to change the certificate over to an AlphaSSL one, the only problem is that it belongs to ssl6.ovh.net and not http://www.werebank.co.uk. The hosting is with OVH. The reverse DNS for the http://www.werebank.co.uk IP address is cluster006.ovh.net, which sounds impressive - Peter's moved up in the world, werebank is now hosted on a cluster of machines! Well, maybe not. Maybe the cluster is there because it's shared hosting with a few hundred other domains all on the same IP address. This doesn't look like it's a virtual machine - it's old school shared hosting with the ISP putting loads of websites all on the same address. The reason the new certificate is for ssl6.ovh.net is because with just one IP address things get a bit interesting and it's probably waiting for someone at OVH to configure it properly.

[TheNewSaint]

Despite being an American, I'm almost positive that one of the things I learned during my stay in England was that your famous government address (aside from the palaces and castles) was #10 Downing Street. I'm sure I walked by and visited it in Whitehall once. But what is this 11 Downing Street, aside from the flat across the street?

Pedantic note: #10 and #11 Downing Street are next to each other. Odd and even numbers being on opposite sides of the street is an American practice.