TUC Update

[Demosthenes]

That's going to make a lovely exhibit in a future trial!

[Dezcad]

FYI.-

.VIEW LATEST COURT DOCUMENTS + 15 BILLION BOND FROM TUC
http://theunitedcities.org/web/BOAvsTUC ... Filing.pdf

.VIEW TUC V BOA SETTLEMENT OFFER NOW
http://theunitedcities.org/web/BOAsettlement.pdf

I see that TUC has filed against BOA in "The Supreme Court of The United Cities Group".

Is TUC taking a page out of Emilio Ippolito's handbook?

How did that work our for him?

[Nikki]

This is probably the first time a US DIstrict Court filing has referenced -- in specific terms -- an authoritative, supporting case which was vacated as moot.

These TUCs are seriously seeking commitment -- the question is only whether it will be mental or civil.

[Leftcoaster]

FYI.-

.VIEW LATEST COURT DOCUMENTS + 15 BILLION BOND FROM TUC
http://theunitedcities.org/web/BOAvsTUC ... Filing.pdf

.VIEW TUC V BOA SETTLEMENT OFFER NOW
http://theunitedcities.org/web/BOAsettlement.pdf

Seems like a lot of effort to go through in order guarantee a trip to prison. Wouldn't it have been easier just to try and rob the bank the old fashioned way?

That said, thanks for the link, that was the funniest thing I've read all week.

[fortinbras]

First, the Answer submitted in court by TUC -- which claims to be a corporation -- is by a non-lawyer (that's painfully obvious). Corporate bodies (even if owned by a single individual) are required to be represented in court by a member of the bar. This Answer is chockablock with sovereign jargon, such as special appearance, and sometimes refers to TUC as "it" and sometimes as "they".

Second, the proposed Settlement offered by TUC to BOA doesn't really address the issue in the court case, which was TUC essentially robbing the bank by appointment. Now TUC proposes that BOA let itself be robbed by cashing $15 Billion in bogus "certified drafts" issued by TUC.

Oddly enough, TUC's website looks remarkably polished and professional, but its behavior seems to resemble that of the ROT.

[Demosthenes]

Is TUC taking a page out of Emilio Ippolito's handbook?

How did that work our for him?

11 year federal prison sentence - released in 2005 at the age of 82. His daughter was sentenced to 10 years, but she died in prison.

[Judge Roy Bean]

This appears to have been an outgrowth of a minority movement fueled by a few members of the Cuban community in Florida.

The depth of the materials implies someone has spent a huge amount of time at the keyboard while documenting the Utopian worker fantasy; it's as if the sheer weight of documentation would be so convincing that even seemingly rational (but perhaps uniformed but socialist/revolutionary) "advocates" would fall in line with the glorious vision.

The other oddity, at least to me, is that Cruz wasn't prosecuted in 2007. Granted, Miami has other fish to fry (pun intended) but if you or I had tried the stunt TUC did about this time last year we'd be commiserating with Buhtz and Johnson, not walking around having YouTube videos produced.

So the question from this side of the Pecos is who the hell does he know in Florida that has kept him on this side of the jail bars?

And my reasoning for being cynical is that failure to act against these scams only invites more perpetrators who can, and will, tune them to run faster and rake in enough to live comfortably beyond the reach of the law.

The examples of delay are glaring and I don't buy the limited resources argument. IMHO and experience it's not resources, it's the "that's a civil matter" shield. Some of these perps are thumbing their noses at the law because law enforcement appears to be deaf, dumb and blind - and the fact that an entity as powerful as B of A had to resort to civil court is utterly absurd, and I'm no fan of B of A.

Then again, it is Florida.

[notorial dissent]

This is a good deal more entertaining than the nonsense the Dorean dimbos were producing, still nonsense, but much more entertaining.

I wonder if the state of Florida knows of all the corporate violations as well as legal ones being generated on such a scale. Between the state and Federal charges, this bunch is in for a long spell in one slammer or another, and I personally would vote for the FL version, no where near as cushy as the Federal counterpart.

[The Observer]

The only thing I want to know is the exchange rate of Libbies for Amero dollars.

[ErsatzAnatchist]

The only thing I want to know is the exchange rate of Libbies for Amero dollars.

At least Libbies and Amero Dollars are worth more than these:



BTW, that "bearer cheque" was issued after the Zimbabwe dollar was devalued by removing three 0's from the currency. That bill on the open exchange market is worth less than $0.01. If I could get enough of them, I would wallpaper my office with them.

Zimbabwe is probably the only country in the world that puts an expiration date on its currency. It is probably also be the only currency that should be issued in scientific notation.

[Imalawman]

The only thing I want to know is the exchange rate of Libbies for Amero dollars.

At least Libbies and Amero Dollars are worth more than these:



BTW, that "bearer cheque" was issued after the Zimbabwe dollar was devalued by removing three 0's from the currency. That bill on the open exchange market is worth less than $0.01. If I could get enough of them, I would wallpaper my office with them.

Zimbabwe is probably the only country in the world that puts an expiration date on its currency. It is probably also be the only currency that should be issued in scientific notation.

Very interesting. I thought Uganda was bad. When I was in Uganda we were in a pretty bad car accident and it was our driver's fault (the driver was a volunteer of the AID's orphanage we were visiting). We pulled over and according to custom worked out what the settlement would be - no cops, no insurance. He came to us and asked if we could lend him some money to settle the car accident. I ended up settling the accident with the amount in my pocket - 125,000.00 shillings. About $60.00 at the time. Roughly a few months salary for many in Uganda. Crazy.

[Leftcoaster]

The only thing I want to know is the exchange rate of Libbies for Amero dollars.

At least Libbies and Amero Dollars are worth more than these:



BTW, that "bearer cheque" was issued after the Zimbabwe dollar was devalued by removing three 0's from the currency. That bill on the open exchange market is worth less than $0.01. If I could get enough of them, I would wallpaper my office with them.

Zimbabwe is probably the only country in the world that puts an expiration date on its currency. It is probably also be the only currency that should be issued in scientific notation.

I was planning on getting some of those for my trip down to Seattle next month.

Customs officer: " Are you carrying signifigant amounts of cash?"

Me: "Uh...yeah, I have 40 Trillion Dollars..."

[Imalawman]

The only thing I want to know is the exchange rate of Libbies for Amero dollars.

At least Libbies and Amero Dollars are worth more than these:



BTW, that "bearer cheque" was issued after the Zimbabwe dollar was devalued by removing three 0's from the currency. That bill on the open exchange market is worth less than $0.01. If I could get enough of them, I would wallpaper my office with them.

Zimbabwe is probably the only country in the world that puts an expiration date on its currency. It is probably also be the only currency that should be issued in scientific notation.

I was planning on getting some of those for my trip down to Seattle next month.

Customs officer: " Are you carrying signifigant amounts of cash?"

Me: "Uh...yeah, I have 40 Trillion Dollars..."

That would be 160,000 250mil. bills, with total net value of $1,600.00. (assuming an exchange rate of .01 per 250 mill) I think the intrinsic value of the paper involved might be worth more than that.

[Leftcoaster]

That would be 160,000 250mil. bills, with total net value of $1,600.00. (assuming an exchange rate of .01 per 250 mill) I think the intrinsic value of the paper involved might be worth more than that.

Only if on a roll and it comes in two-ply.......

Actually, at the most recent exchange rate I say (Z$495 billion per USD) it would only be worth about $80. Also, They also come in $50 Billion dollar denominations now. For ease of transport.

[ErsatzAnatchist]

That would be 160,000 250mil. bills, with total net value of $1,600.00. (assuming an exchange rate of .01 per 250 mill) I think the intrinsic value of the paper involved might be worth more than that.

Only if on a roll and it comes in two-ply.......

Actually, at the most recent exchange rate I say (Z$495 billion per USD) it would only be worth about $80. Also, They also come in $50 Billion dollar denominations now. For ease of transport.

How can I actually get my hands on some of these bills (other than e-bay)? I would love to leave them as part of a tip in a restaurant.

The service was so good, I left a $250,000,000 tip.

[RyanMcC]

Actually, at the most recent exchange rate I say (Z$495 billion per USD) it would only be worth about $80. Also, They also come in $50 Billion dollar denominations now. For ease of transport.

Zimbabwe introduces 100-billion-dollar note

Sat Jul 19, 4:58 AM ET

HARARE (AFP) - Zimbabwe, grappling with a record 2.2 million percent inflation, has introduced a new 100-billion-dollar bank note in a bid to tackle rampant cash shortages, the central bank said Saturday.

The new note will go into circulation on Monday, the bank said in a statement cited by state media, joining about half a dozen new high denomination notes already issued this year.

In January, a 10-million-dollar note was issued, then a 50-million-dollar note in April. In May, notes for 100 million and 250 million dollars were issued, swiftly followed by those for five billion, 25 billion and 50 billion.

The southern African nation, currently gripped by a post-election crisis, has been ravaged by hyperinflation which shot up from 165,000 percent in February to 2.2 million in June.

Independent economists however believe the official inflation figure is grossly understated, estimating it could be running between 10 million and 15 million percent.

Zimbabwe's chronic economic crisis has left at least 80 percent of the population living below the poverty threshold and mass shortages of basic goods in shops.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080719/wl ... yinflation

July 19, 2008

In Zimbabwe, banknotes issued a few months ago are worth only a fraction of a percentage of what they were originally. The Zimbabwean $50 billion bill is worth 33 U.S. cents; and it takes 1.2 quadrillion Zimbabwean dollars to make up about $4,000 U.S.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... 3&ft=1&f=7

[Leftcoaster]

More thread derailing as it pertains to Zimbabwe's currency here.

Of particular relevance for those looking to get some...

The note, launched this week, is worth enough to buy a loaf of bread — if you can find one on Zimbabwe's depleted store shelves. Meanwhile on eBay, the bill was on offer for nearly US$80.

My local bank and currency exchange are unable to get these at all.

[notorial dissent]

On a positive note, and related, loosely, to the actual topic here, the Zimbabween shin plasters are worth more than the paper TUC is pushing, and they have the added advantage of while being nearly worthless, they are at least legal, whereas the former are worthless, and truly illegal.

[TUC]

Friendly reminder to you all,

Court day is tomorrow @ 10am. I will bring you the good news...
http://www.treas.gov/press/releases/hp1092.htm
Ps.- You all welcome to come.
Best Regards,
The Untouchable Constitution!

[Nikki]

Friendly reminder to you all,

Court day is tomorrow @ 10am. I will bring you the good news...
http://www.treas.gov/press/releases/hp1092.htm
Ps.- You all welcome to come.
Best Regards,
The Untochable Constitution!

1 - Is the press release -- which was issued on THIS planet -- supposed to have some significance with respect to your fantasy world?

2 - What does "Untochable" -- a Yiddush term for someone who is wearing the equivalent of a sheet-metal girdle -- have to do with the Constitution?