SteveSy wrote:Well then that leaves it subjective as to when and where a judge will or will not let the jury hear the law even though both positions are based on the written law.This was actually brought up in the oral argument and was the core of the defenses position. In short it was argued that the 7th court was using a special version of the rule just for people identified with certain types of TP arguments such as wages aren't income. The purpose of the resulting opinion in Cheek was to take that out of the hands of the judge because it was subjective. Its for a jury to decide if and when its a good faith belief. The jury is free to review all of the information the defendant saw that was contrary to his position.
Well, the jury is free to review whatever evidence is admitted. The rule about not being able to argue "the law" to the jury applies to both the prosecution and the defense. If evidence of "the law" is going to be admitted (whether offered by the prosecution or the defense), it should be admitted only if it's being offered for the purpose of showing the defendant's awareness of the law, or to show that he made an honest mistake caused by the complexity of the law. Neither side should be allowed to try to persuade the jury that its theory about the law is "correct." Only the judge can instruct the jury on what the law actually is -- the law that the jury must follow.
jg continues to use the flawed argument that Pete should not be allowed to confuse the jury with his version and then on the other hand claim its impossible for Pete to have a good faith belief because a judge said otherwise.
I'm not clear that this is jg's argument, so I won't address that except to say that, again, neither side in cases is allowed (or at least should not be allowed) to get "evidence" admitted (whether copies of statutes, copies of court cases) for the specific purpose of confusing the jury about
what the law actually is. I'm going to make a general statement here: For many tax protesters (not all, but possibly most), the whole purpose of trying to introduce copies of statutes and court decisions, etc., etc., as "evidence" is not really to persuade the jury that the defendant/tax protester had a Cheek-style actual good faith belief based on a misunderstanding, etc. The real purpose is to try to confuse the jury, to get the jury members to think to themselves, "hey, based on what I've seen here, I think the judge is wrong and the defendant is right about what the law is, so I'm gonna vote to acquit." In this situation, the tax protester is really trying to persuade the jury that the tax protester's theories are correct. That would be improper. I believe this may be what Irwin Schiff was trying to do (not sure, I'd have to go back and review the record).
If a jury can be confused by Pete then certainly Pete can be equally confused if he actually believes his position even though a judge or the IRS told him otherwise.
No, not in Pete's case. In my personal opinion, the evidence (on Peter's losthorizons web site, and in various videos of Pete I have watched, and in various audio records of him I have heard) is overwhelming that Pete is aware of what the law actually is, and that he simply refuses to accept it. Instead, Pete strongly "believes" (there's that confusing word again) that his own
Cracking the Code theory is the correct statement of what the law is. That's an actual belief, but it's not an actual good faith believe based on a misunderstanding caused by the complexity of the tax law. Instead, it's a stubborn refusal to accept the law based on his own extensive study. I mean, he wrote a book about it for heaven's sake. He's got a web site. There is no way that his actual belief rises to the level of a Cheek-type belief.
By contrast, you can almost bet that each member of the jury (unless he or she lies during
voir dire) will have engaged in relatively little "independent study" of the tax law (or, unless the juror discloses that tidbit and the attorneys for both the government and the defendant decide to accept the juror on the panel anyway). It is highly unlikely that the members of the jury will have studied the tax law to anywhere near the degree that Pete has studied it. So, it's tremendously more likely that a jury member, an average American, could develop a Cheek-type misunderstanding, etc., than that Peter Hendrickson could possibly hold such a misunderstanding. It is almost metaphysically impossible for Peter Eric Hendrickson to have a valid Cheek-type misunderstanding at this point. But we are in agreement that it is generally the job of the jury -- not the trial judge -- to make that determination. And the jury will have to make that determination based on the evidence presented in the trial, which may or may not consist of exactly every word and comma of Pete's materials I have personally read at his losthorizons web site, or the videos I have watched, etc.
"My greatest fear is that the audience will beat me to the punch line." -- David Mamet