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Not our Dean, the scourge of the Canadian court system, surely not!!!!erwalkerca wrote:Seems Dean had a bad habit of not bothering to show up for court, resulting in default judgements.
Why the next thing you'll be saying is that he stretches the truth, or isn't entirely honest and forthcoming with his followers.
Over on JREF, D'Rok made an acute observation on the Manitoba Public Insurance Corp v. Zachariah Bradley Mastervick & Dean Clifford action:Jeffrey wrote:In other words he's a bum who doesn't pay his utility bills or car insurance.
I would agree, and it seems to me that unless the accident involves some very pricey vehicles then damages of that amount would suggest personal injury to whomever Zach and Dean smashed. It would be very interesting to know if the Insurance Corp. was paid up in full, compliant with the Freeman-on-the-Land perspective on injury to persons and property.Auto insurance in Manitoba is mandatory through MPI:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manitoba_Public_Insurance
The court registry doesn't say what the action was about, but it's safe to assume it's related in some way to driving without insurance, possibly involving an accident and an action for recovery of benefits. If so, then so much for uninsured FOTLers taking responsibility for the harm they cause behind the wheel.
Truly, a voice of experience. For once I agree with Dean's advice.Jeffrey wrote:And it would take some digging but I recall a recent video of his where he tells his followers that they should always show up to court.
An interesting twist is that the authors of the update are arguing the absence of a litigation entry for this current detention in the Manitoba Courts online database means ... well ... something:The authorised representatives have been able to speak with Dean directly.
Dean has been in court every day since his arrival to the Winnipeg Remand Centre since his kidnapping on Nov 24th.
He has not been allowed to speak at court hearings in which they have been scheduled right at the end of the day and with limited time. After adjournment, he is escorted back to his cell.
There are departments that are integral to the judicial process which are refusing service and doing what they can to hinder the case.
During communications between Dean and authorised representatives, calls have been disconnected at crucial periods of the conversation.
Dean has been moved from solitary confinement to general public at the Remand Centre, and has been afforded writing materials. Court filings have begun.
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“It’s a game of tennis…” Dean stated. “They’ve thrown everything they have at me, and now it’s my turn to serve.”
A "Free Dean Clifford" Facebook group has also appeared (https://www.facebook.com/freedeanclifford) but there's not much content or commentary to date.In regards to the recent CBC article, 24th Nov in which they claimed “Clifford was scheduled to appear in a Winnipeg court on Aug. 21, but didn’t show up. As a result, a warrant was issued for his arrest.” According to the Manitoba Court website there is no record of any such schedule up to this date of this posting.
The last hearing was back in February 2013 on another matter in which that case had all 11 trumped up charges dropped and the case was Struck Off and closed. There has been no other case recorded or pending after this event.
All the kewl kids are doing it - that Freemen thing.Clifford, who represented himself and was wearing ankle shackles at the defence table, said there has been no evidence presented “that I am associated with this Freemen thing.”
However, during opening comments Clifford used rhetoric similar to what members of the Freemen movement, who believe they are exempt from government authority, have used in the past.
“I do not consent to be associated with the legal person under the terms and conditions of the birth certificate especially at the times of the alleged complaint,” Clifford told the court.
The 30,000 Canadian Freemen number pops up again. I continue to argue that is at least a 10-fold exaggeration.Clifford’s physical appearance has shifted strikingly over the five years or so during which he has risen to prominence as a movement leader. Initially, he was a short-haired, somewhat grizzled man in an ordinary T-shirt holding forth on matters of law. Then he grew his hair long, and for a while last summer he promoted an image as a kind of hippie sage dispensing antigovernment wisdom. More recently, he has taken on the appearance of Hugh Jackman’s fictional movie superhero, the Wolverine (minus the claws), with pronounced mutton-chop sideburns and spiky hair.
As for Dean himself, there's an apparently new message that has appeared on the deanclifford.info website:... DC has left a trail of people, including families, that he has ruined with his lies and deception. He is a Charlatan of the worst kind and 100% motivated by money. And I'm convinced he's controlled opposition. He is being handled. Examine his latest arrest CLOSELY and tell me it doesn't strike you as odd how it went down. There are many aspects about that arrest that raise flags in my mind but one that sticks out the most is how Dean dealt with it. Have you ever known him to be so calm when he's being violated by the police? And why did they wait till he completed his two-day seminar? Why not arrest him at the beginning or the middle of it? There are many questions but this should suffice to peak curiosity for now.
As for his teachings, his track record speaks for itself. How many trucks has he lost so far? Has he ever gotten any of them back? NO. Even though he has been claiming for years that he has cases against them and yet he never produced a single shred of evidence to back those claims up. Has he ever had a victory in court? Have you ever seen actual irrefutable evidence of any victory? Dean has NEVER offered any evidence about any of his claims, yet most swallow his crap hook, line and sinker. And I'm guilty of the same. But once I became aware of who he really is, I started investigating and asking questions about his past and voila. ...
Dean then goes on to state that the State and Government apparatus has a useful and necessary function - social control!... I was in court, again, yesterday for a civil matter. As is usual, the night before I was up late thinking of some new excellent motion to draft, some new affidavit that would put people in their place, and I was preparing for how I would tear a strip out of that Judge if he dared mouth off to me, and I was preparing insults for the Lawyer of the Defendant (I’m the Plaintiff), when I realized something, and looked in the mirror in horror, to the realization that I was caught up in their game of ignorance. I also realized, that I was angry, and that I was looking for a fight, and I was ready at the first sign to attack and go on the offensive in an irrational and illogical manner. I think my experiences over the years has caused me to assume that every Judge, every Lawyer, and every Police Officer is a malicious piece of garbage who deserves no respect or quarter. At the same time, we make a lot of noise about how much we do not appreciate being labelled generally as ignorant, anti-government, cop hating anarchists. It was the moment that I realized that I am just as bad as the people I despise. This has happened a couple times in the past and once again, I looked in the mirror, and I am a Hypocrite.
The missive ends with Dean commenting on his experience that day in Court, where the legal apparatus treats a delinquent civil proceeding (he says he was almost crushed to death in a workplace incident in 2005 and is suing on that basis) in a manner that is fair and cautious - to him.Again, there does need to be some type of system in place as there are billions of incompetent people out there who really would run amok and act like children, drunk driving, stealing, killing, you name it. The system works pretty good for those people. I know it works pretty well, it beat me into shape as I was once quite ignorant, although I have always been a rather responsible individual, even as a child. I would not be the Man I am today without that push to go and learn and make myself better, more educated, and come back stronger every time to overcome what they put in front of me. When you think about it, they are really just a personal trainer in the game of life. ...
Has Dean turned over a new leaf? Well ... maybe not. While this message has been linked to by quite a few persons in the Freeman community, I noticed something a little strange. First, it's dated Dec. 15, 2013, which is a little peculiar given the first link to this apparently new Clifford missive is dated at least several days before that. And as of the time I am writing this message, Dec. 15 is tomorrow.Now on to my point. In keeping with the new year, and the start of the new age in 6 days, I have decided I need to be reborn right along with this galactic alignment, and re-align myself. This site will not be dedicated to showing people how to attack and destroy, or to be spiteful and emotional, as I believe I am not serving the interests of Law and my fellow man by doing any of that. I want to learn to serve the truth, to uncover it, and be its servant. ...
I have claimed before that this is a war against ignorance, and that ignorance was my enemy. So, the first battle has been with myself and realizing where I was ignorant, and how to change that. ...
One of the few things I was correct on, I believe, is that nobody else is going to fix this. The job is ours, it is our responsibility. Logic and reason overcomes anything, and disarms any adversary. Anger and irrational behavior is the exclusive jurisdiction of an uneducated and poorly equipped mind. If our minds go somewhere else, and our mind, being our Spirit, is all that carries on to the next plane of existence, why would you not spend your life preparing and improving the one and only thing that you take with you? To do anything else would be illogical and, therefore, against the Law.
Funny how they didn't think of raising these questions until after the arrest. A huge red flag should have been Dean's claim that he was in jail "by choice".his track record speaks for itself. How many trucks has he lost so far? Has he ever gotten any of them back? NO. Even though he has been claiming for years that he has cases against them and yet he never produced a single shred of evidence to back those claims up. Has he ever had a victory in court? Have you ever seen actual irrefutable evidence of any victory? Dean has NEVER offered any evidence about any of his claims
I'm reading between the lines so take this with a grain of salt. First, Manitoba authorities issued a Canada-wide warrant, and that is what led to the Hamilton arrest. Whatever they want Clifford for, it's something substantial. There have been rumours within Freeman circles that Dean's residence was raided and found to contain weapons and a grow op. That makes a lot of sense as a basis for an arrest warrant of that kind. Again, an educated guess.Jeffrey wrote:What are the odds of a conviction at this point. Was he really doing "donuts" on that parking lot, is it even relevant? Did he really assault the cop as claimed, will we ever see the dashcam video? How much time is he looking at if everything sticks? ...
I'm really anxious to see the reaction to a conviction.
I poked around the Manitoba Courts online resources, and there is no Clifford hearing on the Queen's Bench or Court of Appeal lists. I therefore presume Dean is going to be appearing in Provincial Court, if indeed this report is accurate.The powers that be resent how Dean Clifford is empowering others to divest from their tyrannical, extortionate and oppressive system. He has everything handled and is 100 steps ahead. It will be an interesting interview when he updates everyone upon his release to say the least.
Not necessarily. I become involved in many criminal matters, and I often Google up the accused, at a minimum out of curiosity. A wide majority of criminal investigations, like raids, never make it into the mass media. The exception is in small communities, say in the 1000-10000 population range. In these centres there is often some kind of local media source, but it is sufficiently short on local news that its staff often produce detailed reports of whatever they can find.Jeffrey wrote:It seems like the CBC would have reported the raid at his home if one had occurred.
Unfortunately we Canadian contributors are very thin on the ground. I do what I can in the greater Vancouver area and Mowe makes his inimitable contributions from wherever but, apart from us, that's about it. I'd love to do a review of Dean Clifford's hearing but a 2,500 mile return fight is beyond the range of even a three zone Skytrain ticket.Fmotlgroupie wrote:Have we got a Winnipeg correspondent? Dean's website ( http://deanclifford.info/2013/12/16/hearing-thursday/ ) is claiming he has a hearing on Thursday, December 19 at 1:00pm (408 York Ave, courtroom 407). They're trying to organize a cluster-[thing] and it might be fun to watch the proceedings