Ed and Elaine Brown arrested (Continued)

[notorial dissent]

And isn’t that an interesting comment on your value in the scheme of the universe. Lucky him!!!

[Judge Roy Bean]

The people who traveled to see (and protect) the Browns came from ... Hawaii ...

Two things come to mind. First, some nincompoop had the financial resources to waste to take the time to come to the mainland and visit or attempt to visit some other like-minded nincompoops. Second, someone(?) figured out that some nincompoop from Hawaii wound up visiting some other like-minded nincompoops in a berg in New Hampshire.

But unless it's just the before-dinner wine, am I the only one here who sees this apparent ability to monitor and connect domestic travel origins and destinations to constitutionally-protected free association with other people as something that might be onerous?

Demo, sorry, but while I'm as happy as anyone to see the Brown's back in custody, something in this just doesn't smell right. Either that or I'm not aware of where that information came from.

[Demosthenes]

The visitor from Hawaii was Sonny aka The Body of the Lord aka The Comforter aka the guy dressed only in white underclothes with long white hair and beard who looks like he's homeless and a drunk.

Ed paid for Sonny's ticket to come be his spiritual advisor in his quest to out the Queen of England as the head of the Illuminati. (Sonny has the Queen's direct telephone number written on the inside of his bible...)

PS: I know the place of origin for all of these visiting supporters because Ed bragged about how far each new visitor had traveled on his daily radio show.

[notorial dissent]

By Margot Sanger-Katz
Monitor staff
October 07. 2007 7:56AM
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New arrests may be on the horizon. Monier said Friday that his office would continue to investigate those who helped the Browns before and will monitor supporters for retaliatory action now that the couple is in custody. Several high-profile Brown supporters, including two men who lived with the couple for weeks and one who raised money for their cause, have not been arrested.

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By MARGOT SANGER-KATZ

I particularly like this last part, I wonder if any of the “true believers” have yet tumbled to the idea that they may well be next on aiding and abetting charges, at the very least, and just how fine a sieve they are going to be using when looking at actions? I don’t think any of them are smart enough to be quivering in their shoes right now, but they should be.

[Nikki]

The people who traveled to see (and protect) the Browns came from ... Hawaii ...

Two things come to mind. First, some nincompoop had the financial resources to waste to take the time to come to the mainland and visit or attempt to visit some other like-minded nincompoops. Second, someone(?) figured out that some nincompoop from Hawaii wound up visiting some other like-minded nincompoops in a berg in New Hampshire.

But unless it's just the before-dinner wine, am I the only one here who sees this apparent ability to monitor and connect domestic travel origins and destinations to constitutionally-protected free association with other people as something that might be onerous?

Demo, sorry, but while I'm as happy as anyone to see the Brown's back in custody, something in this just doesn't smell right. Either that or I'm not aware of where that information came from.

It is highly likely that Demosthenes -- via her in-depth knowlege of the players in the TH movement -- is much more aware of who the various visitors were, where they came from, and their individual agandas (is that the correct plural in English?).

In all likelihood, the bulk of the information the Marshalls and other law enforcement agencies have about E&E's friends was obtained from sites like this and people like Demosthenes.

So, JRB, to allay your fears, the various three-letter agencies don't have the resources (or the direction at present) to track, monitor, and investigate piss-ant domestic wannabe terorists. They're too busy dealing with real threats.

[Demosthenes]

This case was unique because the idiots involved used the internet to broadcast their every move. Jim Hobbs, for example, drove his RV from Arizona to New Hamshire to provide support to the Browns. The dimwit posted updates nightly about his trip cross country.

Tyler Moore who posted for a while on Quatloos as TylerM, drove from Tennessee to New Hampshire on his spring break to support the Browns. He not only blogged his journey, he posted videos of his trip too.

Reno Gonzalez announced his plans on his MySpace page to travel from his home town of Alice Texas to New Hampshire to provide armed security to the Browns and his daddy supplemented the information with his own MySpace page and frequent calls to Texas tv stations and newspapers.

Danny Riley burst on the scene by pledging his allegience to Ed Brown from his home in Cohoes NY on his Youtube page. He then filmed and published a number of videos documenting his support over several months.

Jason Gerhard worked as the editor of his college newspaper. He described his visits to Browns (complete with Bushmaster rifle) in the pages of the school paper.

I knew about the Montana plates because the owner of that car is the one posted the video on Youtube of the car being stopped by Marshals and has written numerous accounts of his stops and arrests for driving without a license. He's the guy who moderates the nhfree.com site and forum.

And of course the biggest mouth of all in announcing who was traveling where and when was Ed himself. His daily radio show literally gave a blow by blow of the visitors and supporters every weekday on RBN radio.

[notorial dissent]

It is amazing how little work law enforcement, etc has to, or would have to, go through to get information in this day and age, when people routinely broadcast their most personal and private information over the internet on their website, blogs, or general vanity areas.

This bunch of bozos has spent nine months detailing every excruciatingly boring detail of their actions, legal and otherwise, down to providing pictures and itineraries. It won’t be a question of convicting them if it comes to it, but of keeping the jury from passing into a state of mind numbed torpor from having to sit through that dreck.

If someone had the sense to look, as is obviously the case, there is an immense amount of what they euphemistically call “intelligence” to be gotten for simply sitting down and reading the blogs of the egos involved.

I will lay part of it to hubris of the see us, aren’t we smart and clever variety, but most of it is just plain old native stupidity.

"Three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead"

[Judge Roy Bean]

If someone had the sense to look, as is obviously the case, there is an immense amount of what they euphemistically call “intelligence” to be gotten for simply sitting down and reading the blogs of the egos involved.

I will lay part of it to hubris of the see us, aren’t we smart and clever variety, but most of it is just plain old native stupidity.

For me, there just aren't enough hours in a week to keep up with lunacy. I admit to relying on law enforcement to be way ahead when it comes to criminal issues.

I more than ever suspect Demo's network of contacts in law enforcement more than rivals that of mine in the financial services jungle.

[Demosthenes]

Demo's network of contacts in law enforcement

I definitely got friends in low places.

In a world of narcissistic bad guys such as tps, the internet and the nuances of social networking have become a rich field of data.

I have to say, though, my biggest learning curve to date hasn't been chit chatting with white pride or gun nuts or engaging in futile arguments about Section 1. I've spent a year in the mouth of a whale called MySpace, and I may never be the same. What a god awful, horrible hell hole that is.

[LPC]

I've spent a year in the mouth of a whale called MySpace, and I may never be the same. What a god awful, horrible hell hole that is.

We'll put that on your epitaph.

[notorial dissent]

Oh, you mean the hole wherein the denizens expose their warts, pimples, and other objects of interest and general quirks of personality of which I would prefer to remain oblivious?

[wserra]

I've spent a year in the mouth of a whale called MySpace, and I may never be the same. What a god awful, horrible hell hole that is.

We'll put that on your epitaph.

"On the whole, I'd rather be here than in MySpace."

[LPC]

I've spent a year in the mouth of a whale called MySpace, and I may never be the same. What a god awful, horrible hell hole that is.

We'll put that on your epitaph.

That came out weird. It should have been either "We'll make that your epitaph" or "We'll put that on your tombstone."

[Weathervane]

But late Thursday night, U.S. marshals posing as supporters entered the Browns' property and arrested them on their porch without incident. "They invited us in, and we escorted them out," U.S. Marshal Stephen Monier told the Associated Press.

That's not exactly accurate. Actually, the marshalls hid inside a giant wooden red-neck and put in the Brown's front yard. The next morning, the Browns dragged it inside their house and later that night...after the Browns got tired of trying to offer it well-water and venison jerky...the marshalls waited until they went to bed, climded out, and arrested them.

[ErsatzAnatchist]

Demo's network of contacts in law enforcement

I definitely got friends in low places.

In a world of narcissistic bad guys such as tps, the internet and the nuances of social networking have become a rich field of data.

I have to say, though, my biggest learning curve to date hasn't been chit chatting with white pride or gun nuts or engaging in futile arguments about Section 1. I've spent a year in the mouth of a whale called MySpace, and I may never be the same. What a god awful, horrible hell hole that is.

That has got to be one of the funniest statements I have ever read on Quatloos. What makes it really funny is how true it is.

And go easy on us poor gun nuts.

[Demosthenes]

This thread is retired and will be continued in Ed and Elaine Brown arrested (Continued even more).