The man who figured this out in 93 called in on the second hour of the radio interview and told this story.
when he figured it out he went to the S.E.C in Seattle. He said they had the entire 22 floor of the sky scapper. he asked the guy he spoke to if it was their job to stop securities fruad and the reply was yea thats what we do. he then gave the SEC the info. he was told by some guy to come back in a week cos this was big time stuff and it needed to go up the chain of command.
When he returned in a week the floor WAS EMPTY! THE ENTIRE FLOOR HAD MOVED WITHIN 1 WEEK! He could not find where they had moved too. Some time later he ran into the guy from the SEC on the subway or bus. the SEC guy recognized him and turned pal when he was confronted. Rushed off the subway saying send me a letter.
He did however convince the county recorder in his county to stop doing this.
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In the midst of a thread about the (supposed) difference between a "lien" and a "notice of lien," someone called Mutter posted this story which, I am quite sure, happened exactly as he says:
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There is no SEC office in Seattle because it merged with the Pacific Regional Office in 1993.
San Francisco Regional Office
Helane L. Morrison, Regional Director
44 Montgomery Street, Suite 2600
San Francisco, CA 94104
(415) 705-2500
e-mail: sanfrancisco@sec.gov
San Francisco Regional Office
Helane L. Morrison, Regional Director
44 Montgomery Street, Suite 2600
San Francisco, CA 94104
(415) 705-2500
e-mail: sanfrancisco@sec.gov
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And now we know why. Imagine moving an entire office to another state just to maintain the conspiracy. It makes me proud to me an illuminatus.There is no SEC office in Seattle because it merged with the Pacific Regional Office in 1993.
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Oh, and I suppose you are going to say that it was just coincidence that SEC moved at the same time they were confronted by the lien-waving TP?Demosthenes wrote:There is no SEC office in Seattle because it merged with the Pacific Regional Office in 1993.
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You think?Either way, I take it that you're kidding?
I mean, after all, everybody knows that the Securities and Exchange Commission has jurisdiction over IRS notices of lien.
And it's obvious that, if presented with "proof" that a NOFTL is not a "real lien," the SEC would have to close up shop rather than admit the existence of such a "massive fraud."
Who could ever doubt such a story?
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Here's today's gem from mutter:
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I like the idea of sueing every state in the union for constitutional violation of making something other than silver or gold coin acceptable for paying a debt. That is our escape from the banksters clause. Thats why it was put in. So even if the banksters took over the federal government, via a national bank, the states would still remain free cos all states should only be accepting currency that is either gold or silver or backed by one or the other.
So lets have some ideas.
first off in what jurisdiction would this be?
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It occurs to me that I could have just read the thread you were referencing on LH. Having done that, I see, more clearly, the hilarity involved.Dr. Caligari wrote:You think?Either way, I take it that you're kidding?
I mean, after all, everybody knows that the Securities and Exchange Commission has jurisdiction over IRS notices of lien.
And it's obvious that, if presented with "proof" that a NOFTL is not a "real lien," the SEC would have to close up shop rather than admit the existence of such a "massive fraud."
Who could ever doubt such a story?
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I believe it, because this posting leaves no question unanswered...except:
What man? Why isn't he named?The man who figured this out in 93 called in on the second hour of the radio interview and told this story.
What sky scrapper?when he figured it out he went to the S.E.C in Seattle. He said they had the entire 22 floor of the sky scapper.
What guy? Why isn't he named?he asked the guy
What info?he then gave the SEC the info.
What guy? Why isn't he named?he was told by some guy
Returned where?When he returned in a week the floor WAS EMPTY!
Why couldn't he look it up in the same place that told him which building to go to in Seattle?He could not find where they had moved too.
Which guy? There were two guys. And was it the bus or was it the subway?Some time later he ran into the guy from the SEC on the subway or bus.
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Somewhere in the thread it's suggested the "man who figured it out in 93" was none other than Jim Shaver. Shaver had tried this same approach in the late '90s and failed.What man? Why isn't he named?Quote:
The man who figured this out in 93 called in on the second hour of the radio interview and told this story.
It seems to be a recycling of an old idea, packaged for profit, as they want $99 to get the details.
Similar story...
I was walking past United States Tax Court last week. A man approached me demanding to know where United States Tax Court had moved to. I pointed at the building and said that it hadn't moved--he was standing right next to it. He told me that I had to be wrong--the building was empty and locked. So where had they moved Tax Court to? He had to file something right away.
It was 8:30 p.m.
I was walking past United States Tax Court last week. A man approached me demanding to know where United States Tax Court had moved to. I pointed at the building and said that it hadn't moved--he was standing right next to it. He told me that I had to be wrong--the building was empty and locked. So where had they moved Tax Court to? He had to file something right away.
It was 8:30 p.m.
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I bet he was referring to Night Tax Court.grammarian44 wrote:Similar story...
I was walking past United States Tax Court last week. A man approached me demanding to know where United States Tax Court had moved to. I pointed at the building and said that it hadn't moved--he was standing right next to it. He told me that I had to be wrong--the building was empty and locked. So where had they moved Tax Court to? He had to file something right away.
It was 8:30 p.m.
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No, no, no - I said "Night Tax Court." You know, that marginally silly court room where the judge is a part-time magician, the prosecuting attorney is over-sexed, the bailiffs are almost human and the people being hauled in for trial actually resemble most of the TPs out there.
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He's a frequent and longtime poster at LH and this is just one of the types of posts he makes. If you look through his posts, you can find out that he is George Mutter who one time lived in Delaware.Investor wrote:That story was meant as a joke, right? The guy who posted that to LH is just a troll there, making fun of the TP's? I have dealt with some thick people in my life, but I find it hard to believe someone really thinks that the SEC moved their entire operations to cover up his tax lien.
Rumor has it that he's a relative of David VP Merrill....
Then the guy is certifiable, right? Does he realize that he is one of 300 million people living in this country? Does he think every government agency just moves whenever one of those 300 million people feels he's been treated unjustly? This is truly a sign of delusions of grandeur--and a serious mental disorder.
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They all think they're so very special.Investor wrote:Then the guy is certifiable, right? Does he realize that he is one of 300 million people living in this country? Does he think every government agency just moves whenever one of those 300 million people feels he's been treated unjustly? This is truly a sign of delusions of grandeur--and a serious mental disorder.
You know, someone from "Acquisitions and Torture Techniques" once owed me $15. I went up to the 52nd floor to collect it from him and he told me that he'd have it the next day and to come back then. So the next day, I tried to go up to the 52nd floor, but the elevator buttons no longer had a 52. So I got off on the 51st floor, determined to take the stairs up the last flight. Well, I climbed the stairs and opened the door to exit the stairwell and there was...nothing. They removed the entire floor overnight! There were no walls, no floor, just the demolished remnants of electrical and plumbing and the underside of the 53rd floor. Before I could behold the spectacle in its entirety, a hawk chased me back into the stairwell.
Several months later, I saw that same guy working at McDonalds. I ordered a #1 with fries and coke and told him to use the $15 he owed me to pay the bill. He replied with a smile, pulled out an AK-47 and shot up a bus full of nuns. Over the hail of gunfire, you could hear Ronald McDonald laughing maniacally.
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You serious, Clark?You know, someone from "Acquisitions and Torture Techniques" once owed me $15. I went up to the 52nd floor to collect it from him and he told me that he'd have it the next day and to come back then. So the next day, I tried to go up to the 52nd floor, but the elevator buttons no longer had a 52. So I got off on the 51st floor, determined to take the stairs up the last flight. Well, I climbed the stairs and opened the door to exit the stairwell and there was...nothing. They removed the entire floor overnight! There were no walls, no floor, just the demolished remnants of electrical and plumbing and the underside of the 53rd floor. Before I could behold the spectacle in its entirety, a hawk chased me back into the stairwell.
Several months later, I saw that same guy working at McDonalds. I ordered a #1 with fries and coke and told him to use the $15 he owed me to pay the bill. He replied with a smile, pulled out an AK-47 and shot up a bus full of nuns. Over the hail of gunfire, you could hear Ronald McDonald laughing maniacally.
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