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CaptainKickback wrote:Another fly being lured to the honey-trap....... :twisted: Thongs are proceeding as planned...... :twisted: :wink:
A "honey trap" is an intelligence ploy involving a sex spy. So who is supposed to be seducing the victims, Dogwalker Riley?
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webhick wrote:Here's a thought. Everyone in town knows which locals are helping to support the Browns. And in a town that small, everyone knows who's an out-of-towner.

Suppose they shoot out the greenhouse, the solar panels, and the windmills. Suppose, the locals boycott the Browns and refuse to sell stuff to the Supporters. Suppose, the Marshals expend a small amount of personnel to protect the local shops. Suppose the Marshals set up road-blocks in and out of town and only let the locals through. No media either.

See, the way I see it is, we kill two birds with one stone. We make it harder for the Browns to restock (since they can try to go on foot). And the town is quieter and safer. Sure, there's the hassle of the road-blocks, but it's better than what's there now - with the loonies running around unchecked. Any supporter attempting to leave or enter town gets busted. Set up some more Marshals in the area to patrol for problems.

Or better yet. Evacuate the town. Shut down cell coverage for the area. Arrest anything moving around outside Ed's property. Then bomb the bastards with nerve gas. It'd be like Christmas. You know, when you wake up and find all your presents under the tree. Nice and calm and not running to get artillery. Good presents. Good.

Even better. No warning, no notice. Send a couple of Marshals in to silently evacuate the neighbors (I doubt they'd warn Ed, since it'd mean that the fiasco would turn bloody) and bomb the bastards with a sleeping agent. Or, don't bother evacuating the area, and wind up apologizing to the neighbors. Write them little notes to their bosses so they don't get fired.
They could just start checking strangers for warrants. That would most likely get about 95% of Ed Brown supporters back where they belong.
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gezco wrote:They could just start checking strangers for warrants. That would most likely get about 95% of Ed Brown supporters back where they belong.
Oooh! Excellent idea!

Might I add tax liens to that list? How about nabbing anyone without a government issued picture ID too (for questioning of course)? That might help round up another 4% who aren't on the warrant radar.
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The local NH press is really starting to lose patience

http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbc ... -1/opinion
Browns narrowing law officers’ options
Published: Wednesday, Jun. 20, 2007

KEY POINTS
BACKGROUND: Ed and Elaine Brown, convicted tax evaders, remain pledged to dying rather than serving time in jail.

CONCLUSION: Law enforcement officials have been handling the situation with patience, but the strategy isn’t working and the Browns would be wiser to surrender instead of dying for their delusional approach to tax laws.


How long will federal law officials play Mr. Nice Guy and continue to wait for convicted tax evaders Ed and Elaine Brown to turn themselves in?

Anyone knowing the answer to that question hasn’t stepped forward to say so. Meanwhile, the Browns continue to bask in the spotlight, vowing that they won’t be taken alive.

And it’s all about money. Specifically, their refusal to pay federal income taxes on some $1.9 million they earned between 1996 and 2003. Now their resistance threatens to cost them everything.

As the Browns continue their defiant talk, it becomes clearer that they live in a fantasy world of their making. They stand tall only in their own mind.

There’s no law that requires people to pay income taxes, they say. That’s news to the millions of people who pay income taxes every year. Surely, smart lawyers would have told their clients about the Brown version of the law if it had any standing. Courts over the years haven’t supported the Brown view of the income tax.

Ed Brown says his membership in a militia group called the Constitution Rangers puts him above local, state or federal police. It also confers immunity on him, according to his interpretation of laws. How’s that for making your own rules?

Steve Monier, a former police chief who is now U.S. marshal for New Hampshire, has been trying to coax the Browns to surrender.

This has been going on for weeks to no avail. He’s even allowing the Browns to receive visits, including one from Randy Weaver, a survivor of the Ruby Ridge massacre.

Monier says his office does not intend to engage in a violent standoff with the Browns who live in a fortress-like house in Plainfield. He stills wants to resolve the situation peacefully.

Well, good luck.

It’s clear the federal law enforcement officials are trying to avoid a Waco and Ruby Ridge-style encounter. Both were so tragic that they stand out as examples of law enforcement gone wrong because young children lost their lives in those terrifyingly violent confrontations.

Having a shootout at the Brown residence would indeed be horrifying. However, the Browns by their constant defiance are narrowing the options of law enforcement.

While Monier and other law enforcement officials should be complimented for stressing patience while they attempt to work a way for the Browns to surrender, the Plan A strategy doesn’t seem to be working.

No one can accuse the federal law officials of premature or hotheaded maneuvers. It’s difficult, though, to work with people who live in a state of delusion and are hell-bent on dying for their cause. Instead of coming off as heroes, the Browns look foolish.

They’re looking at spending time in jail, their fortune gone rather than experiencing a comfortable retirement. That’s if they don’t go through with an armed response to a showdown with law enforcement should it come.

New Hampshire may be the “Live Free or Die” state, but in the end, we hope the Browns live, though their freedom may be clipped for a few years while they ponder the consequences of tax evasion from jail cells.
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Plainfield asks marshal for action
By KRISTEN SENZ
Union Leader Correspondent
11 hours, 42 minutes ago

PLAINFIELD – Plainfield selectmen are frustrated over how local police were kept in the dark before state and federal officers swarmed the area near Ed and Elaine Brown's home on June 7, and have asked the U.S. marshal for "definitive action" to end the impasse with the convicted tax evaders.

"We've got a whole bunch of residents in town that we need to protect and make sure their children are safe, and the way we can do that is with information," Town Administrator Steve Halleran said.

Selectmen made the request to U.S. Marshal Steve Monier in a letter dated June 6, though the letter was not actually mailed until late last week.

Halleran said "definitive action" meant cutting off the Browns' electricity and phone, which the U.S. Marshal Service did last week, though he said it was not in response to the selectmen's letter.

"They had already planned that as a follow-up to their operation on June 7," Halleran said, stressing that the town doesn't want a violent clash on the Brown property.

"The point is the letter is not in reaction to that incident," he said, adding "We held the letter for another week and had some debate about whether the letter would be strengthened or weakened."

The selectmen opted to keep the content of the letter the same, Halleran said, but sent copies to U.S. Sens. Judd Gregg and John Sununu, as well as the United States attorney general.

During the June 7 operation, federal agents fired a Tazer at and detained a Brown supporter, but did not engage at all with the Browns.

Monier said despite the overwhelming police presence, there was never a plan to raid the Browns' house to apprehend the couple. He only wanted to keep close watch on the convicted felons while agents seized Elaine Brown's former dental office in West Lebanon, he said.

But the Plainfield Police Department wasn't told beforehand that such an elaborate operation was in the works.

"We basically got calls from commuters who were going to work" and saw armed personnel carriers headed toward the Brown house, Halleran said.

The exclusion was met with "frustration and disappointment" among Plainfield police officers, he said. "Those guys had helped the marshal service a lot, and there was no reason to not include them."

Monier did not return two calls seeking comment yesterday.

After learning of the June 7 blockade on Stage Road, Plainfield police rushed to inform the principal of Plainfield Elementary School that students walking home would need to take a different route.

"We had to scramble a little bit," Halleran said.

The events of June 7, combined with the recent arrival of Ruby Ridge target Randy Weaver in Plainfield, have elevated the Browns' case into the national spotlight, and that increases the potential for trouble in Plainfield, Halleran said.

"We would like the U.S. marshal to work more proactively to reach some kind of an end," he said, "(But) nobody wants Ruby Ridge -- not over a tax evader."

The Browns, sentenced to 63 months imprisonment for felony tax evasion, assert that no law exists that requires average Americans to pay federal income tax. The Browns have vowed not to be taken alive.

The couple continue to pay their local property taxes on time and "really have been no problem to the town of Plainfield at all," Halleran said.
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The local nuts get busy.
What: Plainfield Selectmen's Meeting
Where: 110 Main Street, Meriden, NH 03770 (603)469-3201
When: Tonight - June 20th, 2007 at 6:30PM

Hi,
I know this is a busy week for everyone and you will each have to make the personal decision of what is most important to you...
But...
Joe Haas, a Brown supporter, is scheduled to speak to the Plainfield Board of "Selectmen" tonight...
Joe will be addressing the "selectmen's" request that the "Brown Situation" be "taken care of" and "resolved"...

The question will also be extended to all elected "officials" for that region and the state...

Joe (and many others) are curious as to what the "selectmen" and elected "officials" want "done" to the Browns?

Are they advocating an armed conflict?
Storming the Brown's home and property?
Killing anyone in, on, or around the property who "resists" the aggression, force, and fraud of the "henchmen" doing the "will(?)" of the "mob-rule/sheeple-masses/new world order slaves"?

And, if we advocate killing our neighbors today...
What is to keep our neighbors from advocating our rape/enslavement/murder/genocide tomorrow?

This is a pivotal moment in NH history folks...
Think long and hard before you dismiss this as something that doesn't warrant your immediate and continual attention!

So many of "our" elected "officials" from the village "boards" all the way to the "governor" are denying their "duty" as elected "officials" to protect and serve their constituents and all human beings freely choosing to be physically in "their" areas...

They are allowing mercenary agents of doom and destruction to commit aggression, force, and fraud on the people at will...
When it is their direct duty to protect and serve...they are choosing to ignore their responsibility and turn a blind eye to the death and destruction...

The local peace officers are employed by, and under the "authority" of, the community "leaders"(selectmen, trustees, etc.) and the sheriff who is elected by the county...

It is the direct duty of these employees of the people and the community to PROTECT and SERVE their communities and each and every one of the human beings physically in their communities!

These employees need to be continually reminded that they serve at the approval and pleasure of the PEOPLE and not the other way around!

For far too long the sheeple have been taught to believe otherwise...but it is simply not so...

Please distribute this far and wide...
Any and all contacts!

This is a direct call to action!

This will also be a media event and we expect press coverage...
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Local Nut wrote:These employees need to be continually reminded that they serve at the approval and pleasure of the PEOPLE and not the other way around!
Yes, and the PEOPLE are calling for action, nimrod.
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webhick wrote:
Local Nut wrote:These employees need to be continually reminded that they serve at the approval and pleasure of the PEOPLE and not the other way around!
Yes, and the PEOPLE are calling for action, nimrod.
Webhick, tsk tsk, you forget that in the minds of TPs, everyone* would agree with them if only they had the chance to explain the situation to them. Thus, the people aren't calling for it, the public officials are deceiving the people into carrying out their nefarious plans.


*"everyone" does not include the following evil persons, not considered part of the "people": public officials - local or otherwise, law enforcement, judicial personnel, lawyers, all elected officials not otherwise included under public officials, most highly educated people, and llama farmers.
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The selectman's meeting is going to be a horror show. The police should call in the Feds for assistance in barring non-residents from attending.
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webhick wrote:The selectman's meeting is going to be a horror show. The police should call in the Feds for assistance in barring non-residents from attending.
To my knowledge, literally none of Ed's supporters live in Plainfield.
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Demosthenes wrote:
webhick wrote:The selectman's meeting is going to be a horror show. The police should call in the Feds for assistance in barring non-residents from attending.
To my knowledge, literally none of Ed's supporters live in Plainfield.
That's because the people in Plainfield have know Ed the longest.... :twisted:

To know Ed is to know he is a bedlamite.
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ErsatzAnatchist wrote:bedlamite.
Gold star on Ersatz' forehead for the best vocab word of the day.
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Demosthenes wrote:
ErsatzAnatchist wrote:bedlamite.
Gold star on Ersatz' forehead for the best vocab word of the day.
And double kudos for use of an archaic word!
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Poor Ed's a-cold!
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Listening to the Wednesday broadcast. Two names surface which might be of interest.

'Mike Conk' appears to be a neighbor of the Browns. Not sure of his involvement other than maybe calling Ed and Elaine about the so-called raid. Elaine appears to say he was incarcerated, but I think she misunderstood Fred's question.

'Bernie Bastion' appears to be the person named by Danny Riley as the one arrested while going after groceries. However, Fred Smart says that was a misunderstanding. He was not arrested.

Bastion is the one mentioned by Shaun Kranish. He didn't want any publicity.

Oh, yeah, this is the call where Elaine says the 'boys' are resting.
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This is shocking. Fruitcakes who can't get anything right.
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ASITStands wrote:Listening to the Wednesday broadcast. Two names surface which might be of interest.

'Mike Conk' appears to be a neighbor of the Browns. Not sure of his involvement other than maybe calling Ed and Elaine about the so-called raid. Elaine appears to say he was incarcerated, but I think she misunderstood Fred's question.

'Bernie Bastion' appears to be the person named by Danny Riley as the one arrested while going after groceries. However, Fred Smart says that was a misunderstanding. He was not arrested.

Bastion is the one mentioned by Shaun Kranish. He didn't want any publicity.

Oh, yeah, this is the call where Elaine says the 'boys' are resting.
Mike Copp is a near neighbor of the Browns. His arrest may have nothing to do with them.

Bernie is a Constitution Ranger / long term friend of the Browns. You can see him in some of the early videos. Bernie is generally a calming voice in this melee and has not been arrested or detained. Riley lied about Bastion being arrested, in yet another example of the dog walker's story not holding water...
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In case anyone was curious about any news concerning the Selectmen's meeting last night in Plainfield:

The Story
WMUR wrote:Brown Sympathizer Arrested After Sending E-Mail
Officials Say E-Mail Contained Threatening Language

POSTED: 10:49 am EDT June 21, 2007
PLAINFIELD, N.H. -- A supporter of Ed and Elaine Brown was arrested Wednesday night on his way to a board of selectmen meeting on charges that he sent a threatening e-mail to a Lebanon, N.H., city councilor.

Lebanon police said longtime anti-government activist Joseph Haas, of Concord, N.H., sent the e-mail to nine Lebanon city councilors, several state officials, and New Hampshire state police personnel.

In the e-mail, Haas wrote, "Either you do your job, or get of the way." The e-mail also said, "Wise up or die."

The Browns were convicted of tax evasion and are facing jail time. The couple refuses to surrender to federal authorities and have said they will defend themselves to the death.

In the e-mail, Haas said that the state and local officials should be protecting the Browns from the U.S. Marshals Service. Federal officials have maintained a presence near the Browns' Plainfield home, and earlier this month, armored vehicles and bomb-disposal units arrived at the property while a warrant was served at a commercial property owned by the couple in Lebanon.

Haas said that he was expressing his free speech rights by writing the e-mail and that the "wise up or die" statement was a play on the state motto, "Live free or die."

In 2005, Haas was accused of sending a threatening letter to state Attorney General Kelly Ayotte. Those charges were later thrown out.

Haas was released Wednesday night on personal recognizance bail.

Supporters of the Browns plan to hold a candlelight vigil Thursday night in a parking lot at Gunstock resort. Organizers said they expect about 60 people to attend.
I'm looking for more info regarding the goings on at the meeting.
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