Liberty Dollar may have some competition...from VIRGINIA

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Marshall's also the guy who wants to reimpose don't ask/don't tell through state legislation that would apply to the VA National Guard.
The 20-year veteran plans to introduce legislation during the Jan. 12 session of the General Assembly that would call for the Commonwealth to study minting its own coins in order to compete with what he calls “the monopoly of the Federal Reserve System.”


“We can’t mint money, but we can mint gold and silver coins,” Marshall said Wednesday night. “It sounds like a small difference, but it is a difference legally. If you look closely on a [dollar] bill, it doesn’t say that it’s money. It says it is legal tender ‘for all debts, public and private.’”
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That makes perfect sense. In fact make people pay their taxes with their Virgins that'll solve your state's budget problem.
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Dimwit wrote:
“We can’t mint money, but we can mint gold and silver coins,” Marshall said Wednesday night. “It sounds like a small difference, but it is a difference legally. If you look closely on a [dollar] bill, it doesn’t say that it’s money. It says it is legal tender ‘for all debts, public and private.’”
Yes, and my computer isn't really a computer. If you look very closely, it doesn't have the word "computer" printed on it. It just says "Dell."

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You are right.

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Marshall: family Idiot wrote:“We can’t mint money, but we can mint gold and silver coins,” Marshall said Wednesday night. “It sounds like a small difference, but it is a difference legally. If you look closely on a [dollar] bill, it doesn’t say that it’s money. It says it is legal tender ‘for all debts, public and private.’”
Sounds like Bernie sent him a huge bag of Panamanian Red as a Christmas gift ....
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Famspear wrote:Dimwit wrote:
“We can’t mint money, but we can mint gold and silver coins,” Marshall said Wednesday night. “It sounds like a small difference, but it is a difference legally. If you look closely on a [dollar] bill, it doesn’t say that it’s money. It says it is legal tender ‘for all debts, public and private.’”
Yes, and my computer isn't really a computer. If you look very closely, it doesn't have the word "computer" printed on it. It just says "Dell."

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Reminds me of the "sovruns" issuing their own quasi-Driver Licenses, with the cards reading "Constitutional Place Traveler", "International Motorist Certification" (or "Qualification")", "Sovereign Authority to Operate Motor Vehicle", "Operator's License", and so forth.
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And how does Marshall plan on getting around the counterfeiting and utterance statutes one wonders?? Oh wait, bet that was one of those myriad pesky little details he didn't have time for.
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The 20-year veteran plans to introduce legislation during the Jan. 12 session of the General Assembly that would call for the Commonwealth to study minting its own coins in order to compete with what he calls “the monopoly of the Federal Reserve System.”

“We can’t mint money, but we can mint gold and silver coins,” Marshall said Wednesday night. “It sounds like a small difference, but it is a difference legally."
I find it interesting that those who profess to be most interested in the Constitution don't seem to be able to remember what it says, or what it means.

And I also find it interesting that those who are not lawyers so often want to talk about what constitutions and laws mean "legally."

Anyway, what the Constitution actually says is that no state shall "coin Money."

Assuming that there is a "difference legally" between a state that does "coin Money" and a state that does "mint gold and silver coins," how can that difference possibly allow the state "to compete with what he calls 'the monopoly of the Federal Reserve System'" if the "minted coins" are not "Money"?

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Take him to Arlington, walk him up the hill to Bobby Lee's house and point out the graves right next to the rose garden.

Then tell him this is what we did to one of the last people from Virginia who thought the states were free to choose what part of the federal they could abide. Oh, and the guy who USED to own this place was beofre the war one of the most respected men in America and after the war one of of the most loved men in at least a large part of America.

So, where's your house, got any other property????
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from the U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 10, clause 1:

"No State shall .... coin money;...."

Did they repeal that while I was looking in the fridge for a brewski??
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fortinbras wrote:from the U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 10, clause 1:

"No State shall .... coin money;...."

Did they repeal that while I was looking in the fridge for a brewski??
No; but I'm sure that the proposed Virginia coinage isn't covered by that prohibition because none of the designs on the (ahahaha) "coins" would use the word "money."

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Apparently the GOP is going to read the Constitution in Congress as part of a publicity stunt. Nothing wrong with that, but what parts do you suppose they will omit? 3/5ths of a person? "All persons born" in the 14th?

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Evil Squirrel Overlord wrote:Apparently the GOP is going to read the Constitution in Congress as part of a publicity stunt. Nothing wrong with that, but what parts do you suppose they will omit? 3/5ths of a person? "All persons born" in the 14th?

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They did that yesterday, but the only detail I've read is that a birfer was arrested and charged with "unlawful conduct, disruption of Congress" for shouting "Except Obama, except Obama. Help us Jesus." after the reading of the natural born citizen requirement for the presidency.
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Quixote wrote:
Evil Squirrel Overlord wrote:Apparently the GOP is going to read the Constitution in Congress as part of a publicity stunt. Nothing wrong with that, but what parts do you suppose they will omit? 3/5ths of a person? "All persons born" in the 14th?

:thinking:
They did that yesterday, but the only detail I've read is that a birfer was arrested and charged with "unlawful conduct, disruption of Congress" for shouting "Except Obama, except Obama. Help us Jesus." after the reading of the natural born citizen requirement for the presidency.
I saw a news headline on ABA Journal that said the slavery portions were left out.
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bmielke wrote:I saw a news headline on ABA Journal that said the slavery portions were left out.
Supposedly on the grounds that they were implicitly repealed by the 13th Amendment. (But they also left out the part about direct taxes being apportioned, which I think some Tea Party types would have liked to hear.)

I also heard that they read the amendment repealing prohibition, but not the prohibition amendment itself.

Also, two pages stuck together, and so Article 4 Section 4 and the first sentence of Article 5 were initially omitted, but then read into the record about two hours later.

Most interesting to me was that most representatives (including Speaker Boehner) left before the reading was completed.
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Yeah I can't see the reading to be all that exciting.
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Where is Virginia to get all this gold and silver?
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Joey Smith wrote:Where is Virginia to get all this gold and silver?
From her sugar daddy :?:
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Joey Smith wrote:Where is Virginia to get all this gold and silver?
Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus.
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Joey Smith wrote:Where is Virginia to get all this gold and silver?
Haven't you heard, Gov Spottswood imported an entire colony of miners from Germany to mine all the silver he was sure was in VA.
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