05-25-2010, 09:40 PM
brokerjones
Junior Member Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 22
Re: Oceanside Network & Oceanside Forex....Q&A
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Originally Posted by fastmoney
I see you have been on at least twice since asking us to ask questions and you would be happy to answer them, I have a few more if you do not mind answering..
I will be happy to answer all of your questions.
What is the fee alertpay charges you? 5%, 6%.. It must suck for a legit biz like Oceanside to have to dig themselves out of that hole from day 1.. Isn't it?
The fees are passed on to the membership when they make purchases. Oceanside has been profitable since day 1. (We do realize these fees..."suck"....but we hope the returns we are producing are a "consolation".)
Again, we are literally spending the money to initiate the NZ Bancorp early next week. Once this is set up, and we have our software in place, as well as our KYC process in order, we will be able to accept bank wires, and while there will still be a bank wire fee, we anticipate it being much lower than Alertpays fees.
(Alertpay does perform KYC for us at this time......which is why we use them.)
Why is it that I find that a lot of hyip forex black box companies go through alertpay, oddly though, some of them go through banks in New Zeland.. Where is your new bank supposed to be?
Alertpay handles KYC for us, while we were able to establish ourselves corporately and prepare for our NZ Bancorp.
Actually we explored several options for our bancorp including Panama, Belize, Cook Islands and New Zealand.
If you do a little research you will find, just as we did, that NZ is the most favorable and respected environment for a bancorp at this time.
I'm not concerned with what "other companies" are doing.......
Why did you stop the network marketing aspect of the business?
GREAT question! And my answer will include several reasons.
1. It was bulky, cumbersome and complicated to administer it within our business model. (keeping track of autoships etc)
2. As much as we initially liked the concept, we were more often than not...running into high end investors who were very interested in Oceanside but once you mentioned MLM (in any capacity) they rolled their eyes.
3. With the continuing evolution of our business model, we felt that our target market was steadily becoming more sophisticated and that MLM was not conducive to the image we wanted.
Are you suing all the people from the other threads on the web for slandering you by calling Oceanside a scam? Why not? Why wait? As I have seen I am small potatoes compared to some of the sites about you and oceanside..
We will see. There is only so much time in any given day and right now I feel our discussion has become civil, and I don't really hold grudges. Shall we continue?
So when you and jd were with oceanside,(before as you claim, you guys took over, when they were claiming 18% per month and from the link above 10% plus per month+) Why didn't you list that as one of the hyip programs you were in, in your list? What happened to their black box? Why the need to shut it down and reopen it?
Oceanside Wealth was not an HYIP...and it was the exact same blackbox.
Had the original 51% owner Dr. Kumar Singh of Gilbert Arizona....not been completely inept at running a business.....that company would be thriving now.
But all things happen for a reason and anyone who is a part of Oceanside Network or Oceanside Forex can and will testify that the two companies are like Night & Day.
Yep, we sure did.....and JD was part owner. 49%.....which meant he had no control.
I was nothing but someone who believed in the product and was pitched a great game about how all of my time and effort would be worth it. (even though I wasn't being paid for it)
In the end.... it was ironically worth it. Because I was able to build relationships with the head trader, and the programmers who were also extremely disatisfied with Dr. Kumar's handling of the company.
They unanimously gave me the blessing to re-structure and re-launch the company as the President.
I decided to keep the name because I'm not here to try and pull a "fast one".
I and my current partners spent 2 years developing the current model and as I previously mentioned the results speak for themselves. Like night and day..
Kind Regards,
Broker Jones
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Those are all your words, Broker. Do your family member lawyers work in the area of litigation avoidance? To put that into words you may find more familiar -- shut the %^&* up might suffice. You just wrote that the black box you are using now was in development for two years and is in fact the same one used in Oceanside Wealth. In the Oceanside Wealth videos here,
http://wn.com/OceansideWealthTube, in part 4 you claimed 10% - 30% returns a month. Now, we have you in black and white saying it is the same box. If those returns were happening how come you are constantly retooling this thing and have now gone to Gain Capital begging them to take clients for you to use as guinea pigs for your black box? If those returns were legit you would be overrun with offers for 100s of millions of dollars for this box. I don't believe for a second that your current account at Gain is making the 10% - 30% a month returns you have been touting for your magic black box. Hmmmmm...... Gain Capital's Bill Schneider indicated to me you hadn't brought him a single customer yet. Let us know how those accounts do with your black box when you get an actual customer. Thanks!!!
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