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webhick wrote:In case anyone was curious about any news concerning the Selectmen's meeting last night in Plainfield:

The Story
WMUR wrote:Brown Sympathizer Arrested After Sending E-Mail
Officials Say E-Mail Contained Threatening Language

POSTED: 10:49 am EDT June 21, 2007
PLAINFIELD, N.H. -- A supporter of Ed and Elaine Brown was arrested Wednesday night on his way to a board of selectmen meeting on charges that he sent a threatening e-mail to a Lebanon, N.H., city councilor.

Lebanon police said longtime anti-government activist Joseph Haas, of Concord, N.H., sent the e-mail to nine Lebanon city councilors, several state officials, and New Hampshire state police personnel.

In the e-mail, Haas wrote, "Either you do your job, or get of the way." The e-mail also said, "Wise up or die."
Here's another fine example of a Joe Haas email. This was sent to the Manchester NH airport.

Where can I buy some 100 octane airline or #__ octane jet fuel? And how much does it cost per gallon? I'd like to make some molotov cocktails for if/when the Federal goons go beserk over at Ed's place. See http://newhampshireunderground.com/foru ... c=9113.240 I'm serious! Just like the 2nd Amendment to use guns against our own government when it starts to run amuk and we have to rresort to Article 10 action! or am I limited to Sunoco 93? Thank you, -- Joe.
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Crikey! Why can't these idiots migrate to Haiti? There is already no government there and the pot laws are not enforced.

TPs all hate America anyway.
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Why these people do not leave the country is beyond me. There are a many Free-Market paradises out there: Liberia, Central African Republic, Somalia. Surely you can sell a sugar pills that keeps away AIDS without government regulation and taxation.
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Is it just a rumor (since I"m starting it) that the town wants to use their land for development and they intend to use eminent domain?
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Why these people do not leave the country is beyond me. There are a many Free-Market paradises out there: Liberia, Central African Republic, Somalia. Surely you can sell a sugar pills that keeps away AIDS without government regulation and taxation.
There has been a guy posting on SuiJuris lately that, because of all of the terrible fascist oppression in the U.S., he is going to move to...Cuba.

I kid you not.
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Demosthenes wrote:Hmmm. I think a hostage extraction would be appropriate before all these drastic and draconian measures are taken.

We gotta' get the poor doggy out of there.
Should be pretty easy to get the dog off the property, since we all know that they leave the property a couple times a day to ruin the neighbor's lawns.
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CaptainKickback wrote: By the way, how many people are flocking to NH? And how many to CA? I don't see NH having to build a fence to keep people out..........
There are more than a few people in NH that would like to build a fence along our southern border. The influx of people from the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts is beginning to have an effect on southern NH.
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Demosthenes wrote:
wserra wrote:
Demosthenes wrote:Webhick (who loves in NH)
OK, but where does she live?

For certain activities, does she actually cross state lines?
The DVD will cost you...
Especially since my out of state activities are on a DVD that is only available in the 456 hour, 228 DVD box set of my greatest hits. It's got a little something for everyone, so I highly recommend it for any 19 day bachelor party. And unlike the strippers you'd normally hire, the DVDs won't rob you blind. Yet. We're working on it.
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webhick wrote:Especially since my out of state activities are on a DVD that is only available in the 456 hour, 228 DVD box set of my greatest hits. It's got a little something for everyone, so I highly recommend it for any 19 day bachelor party. And unlike the strippers you'd normally hire, the DVDs won't rob you blind. Yet. We're working on it.
Uh, that is a lot of loving across state lines...
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Video about the Ed Brown supporter who sent the threat email to a city council member. He had threatened her before by saying he would send her anthrax.

http://www.wmur.com/video/13547431/index.html
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Nikki wrote:American Idol, hell!

This is the perfect venue for the next season of Survivor.

Multiple "tribes": NH Free State nuts, assorted TPs gleaned from the records of the Tax Court, Texas Secessionists, a bunch of MS13, and a crew Ed's supporters.
I like it!

Here's how you make it work: the government declares the Brown property no longer part of the United States, like they did in the Snake Plisskin movies. It becomes an independent nation, its fate to be decided by whoever moves there. The secessionists, Free Staters, tax protestors, and miscellaneous nutjobs will all move in voluntarily.

Once you've got enough, seal the border, declare a trade embargo against the nation, and put cameras up. No rules, no tribes, no supplies. These freaks want to run their own nation, free from the evil oppressive U.S gubmint; let 'em. It'll be North Korea within a week.

And here's the best part of the show: the U.S. government builds an immigration office, and listens to the pleas of those who wish to repatriate to the United States. (We make them renounce their U.S. citizenship before they leave, as a condition of being allowed to move to the tax-free government-free paradise of Brownland.) The feds process the applications with their usual bureaucratic speed, then refuse everyone re-entry for the most arbitrary reasons. I bet we can get these tough-guy secessionists to sing "America the Beautiful" while weeping.
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I have often advocated that the courts should declare TPs like the Browns to no longer be within the United States as well as their property (if they have it). After that, announce that the United States will not get involved if another country or entity decides to declare war on the TPs and invade their property, whether for plunder or enslavement. After that happening a few times, I bet TPs would suddenly comprehend the rationale behind paying yur income tax.
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As I think I've said before, I think that we should revive the old English concept of "outlaw" as someone who is not only outside of compliance with the law, but also outside of the protection of the law.

In other words, declare the Brown property a free-fire zone. Anything that happens on the property is simply not a crime under the laws of the United States or any state of the United States. Then let nature take its course.

(See also, "beyond the pale.")
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The following story goes into what happened at the meeting a little further.
Concord Monitor wrote:Article published Jun 22, 2007
Lebanon / Plainfield

Browns' friend arrested for e-mail
Police: He threatened Lebanon councilor

Valley News
Jun 22, 2007

Joe Haas, whose crusades against property taxes, federal jurisdiction and other arcane legal matters have made him a familiar face around the State House, was arrested Wednesday night and charged with threatening a Lebanon city councilor in an e-mail he sent to government officials. Haas's message was a part of his most recent campaign, to free Plainfield residents Ed and Elaine Brown from their tax evasion convictions.

The Plainfield police arrested Haas, 54, of Gilmanton, on Wednesday outside Plainfield Town Hall on a misdemeanor charge of criminal threatening.

In a message sent last Friday, Haas assailed Gov. John Lynch and the Lebanon City Council, in language at times biblical and legalistic, for not doing more to protect the Browns from the U.S. Marshals Service.

"You all live in a dream land of lies, the father of which is the devil himself: devil worshipers you must be," Haas wrote in the e-mail, addressing the council. "Either you do your job, or get out of the way. WISE UP OR DIE. If the latter be your choice, then BE GONE with you NOW!"

Ed and Elaine Brown were convicted and sentenced to five years in prison earlier this year for not paying income taxes. Saying they will resist any attempt by marshals to arrest them, they have been holed up in their Plainfield home for the past five months.
After receiving Haas's e-mail, Councilor Terri Dudley, who formerly served as a state representative, complained to Lebanon Police Chief Jim Alexander and state Attorney General Kelly Ayotte.

In 2005, Haas faced criminal charges for sending an e-mail to Ayotte in which he warned that her month-old daughter would be killed if she didn't stop prosecuting one of his friends. The judge ruled that the law under which he was tried - improper influence of a public official - was unconstitutional because it was too broad, and she dismissed the case.

More than a decade ago, Haas was charged with assaulting a tax collector and a police chief in Grafton County. He was acquitted of the charges against the chief but spent 62 days in jail for the fight with the tax collector.

Haas was questioned in 1998 about pipe bombs found inside and outside Concord libraries. He was never charged in connection with the bombs.

In Haas's recent message, Dudley was the only city councilor whom he mentioned by name. "You have turned the Isaiah 1:21 'faithful city' (in your 78+ years Rep. Terri Duddy) into a land of the harlot: the vague and the vagabond," Haas wrote.

Dudley, 78, said she found the e-mail chilling.

"Everybody has the right to free speech," she said. "I do not think they have the right to threaten the life of someone else."

Bernie Bastian, a friend of Haas who also supports the Browns, said Haas's message should not be construed as a death threat. He sought to offer alternative interpretations of the "Wise Up or Die" phrase.

"That could be: If you're not smart enough, you get hit by a car in the road," Bastian said. "We've got 'Live Free or Die' on the license plate. Wising up is easier than living free, so is Live Free or Die a threat?"

Bastian was one of about 10 Brown supporters who turned out with Haas for the regular meeting of the Plainfield Board of Selectmen on Wednesday night. Haas had rallied the group to attend the meeting and request that town officials intervene with federal authorities on behalf of the Browns.

At the selectmen's meeting, Bastian, speaking on behalf of Haas, told board members that they had a constitutional obligation to protect the Browns from federal law-enforcement agents. If they did not do so, Bastian suggested, the town should refund the couple's local property taxes.

Haas was arrested just after he arrived for the meeting. Three Plainfield officers and two state troopers were waiting for him in the parking lot. Sullivan County Attorney Marc Hathaway and two assistant county attorneys were also present.

Hathaway said members of his office had heard there might be a large contingent of the Browns' supporters at the meeting and were there to offer advice, as needed, to the police.

Haas, a bespectacled man in a patterned short-sleeve shirt, made no efforts to resist the police. Several of the Browns' supporters captured his arrest on video, watching Haas as the police escorted him into the Plainfield Police Department and then into a Sullivan County Sheriff's Department cruiser, which ferried him to Lebanon.

"We were here in case something like this happened," said Danny Romero, an internet radio producer who traveled to the Browns' home over the weekend from Texas.

"This is fascism," said Corinna Cooper, a California resident who was holding aloft a sign that said "Taxes or Blood? Is this America?" outside the town hall as selectmen met inside.

Plainfield Police Chief Gordon Gillens said the Lebanon police, who had a warrant for Haas's arrest, had asked that Haas be arrested if he showed up to the selectmen's meeting, which he had indicated he might attend. The Lebanon police also staked out Wednesday's council meeting in case Haas showed up there.

Dudley said Haas had attended a council meeting June 6, when he demanded officials fire Lebanon Police Chief Jim Alexander for his role in arresting Ed Brown last year.

Bastian said the Lebanon police had been in touch with Haas sometime in the past week to investigate the alleged threat. As a result, he said, his friend "expected" that he might be arrested in the coming days.

Yesterday, Bastian said he picked Haas up from the police station later that night.

Lebanon Police Sgt. Stephen St. Louis said Haas was released Wednesday night on a personal recognizance bond and would be arraigned July 31. If convicted, he faces a fine of up to $1,200 but no jail time.

In a posting he made on an internet discussion board yesterday, Haas said he was released on $2,000 personal recognizance.

According to the posting, he was released with a map to the Lebanon courthouse and an order to stay away from Dudley and not possess any guns.

"I guess that I'll just have to continue my paper war with the federal and state government goons," he wrote.

Monitor staff writer Margot Sanger-Katz contributed to this report.
It sounds like the State Police and the County Attorneys are taking it upon themselves to help out the town in this difficult situation, while the Marshals sit on their thumbs and chat with Ed.
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From today's Union Leader.
Union Leader wrote:Dukakis granted pardon to Brown

By KATHRYN MARCHOCKI
New Hampshire Union Leader Staff
5 hours, 28 minutes ago

BOSTON – The convicted New Hampshire tax evader now at the center of a standoff for his refusal to surrender and serve a 63-month federal prison term won a pardon in 1976 from then-Massachusetts Gov. Michael S. Dukakis for an earlier criminal conviction.

Edward L. Brown, 64, who remains holed up in his Plainfield, N.H., compound with his wife, Elaine, was found guilty in 1960 of assault and armed robbery in Middlesex Superior Court in Cambridge and later sentenced to state prison, according to his pardon on file at the Massachusetts Archives.

Brown was living in Westborough, Mass., when he requested the pardon for the 1960 criminal conviction and a dozen minor motor vehicle offenses he racked up during the 1960s and early 1970s, according to Governor's Council records and the Senate report listing pardons granted that year.

Acting on the advice and consent of the council, Dukakis "fully and completely" pardoned Brown of all his offenses July 14, 1976, the records show. It was one of 237 pardons Dukakis, then a first-term governor, granted that year, the Senate report shows.

The Advisory Board of Pardons also recommended Brown be pardoned. The board's report is not part of the public record.

A pardon forgives offenders of their crimes, according to the Governor's Council. They most often are requested by those who do not want to list prior criminal convictions on applications to carry weapons and for employment, said Elizabeth Bouvier, judicial archivist for the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court.

Dukakis, who was the 1988 Democratic presidential nominee, now is a member of the political science faculty at Northeastern University in Boston. An attempt to reach him at his Northeastern office yesterday was unsuccessful. His home telephone number is unpublished.

Attempts to reach Brown for comment by telephone and e-mail also were unsuccessful. Authorities cut off the Browns' telephone service and power last week to increase pressure on the couple, who remain in their fortified compound in defiance of a 63-month federal prison term they were ordered to serve April 24.

The couple, who are armed, vowed they will die defending themselves and their property from any government encroachment.

Brown, a retired exterminator, and his wife, Elaine, 66, a dentist, were found guilty in January of plotting to hide their income and avoid taxes on the $1.9 million Elaine Brown earned between 1996 and 2003. They claim there is no law that requires them to pay federal income taxes.

A jury also found the couple guilty of purchasing $215,890 in postal money orders in amounts just below the tax-reporting threshold and using them to buy their 110-acre Plainfield property and Elaine Brown's dental office in West Lebanon.

U.S. marshals said they will not create an armed confrontation with the Browns. Instead, marshals have tried to convince the couple to surrender and speak with them regularly by telephone.

Edward Brown was 18 years old when he was charged with being armed with a dangerous weapon when he assaulted a man while attempting to rob him in Somerville, Mass., in 1960, according to the Middlesex Superior Court indictment. It does not specify the weapon used. A jury found Brown guilty of assault to armed robbery April 20, 1960, the pardon shows.

Brown was imprisoned at the Massachusetts Correctional Institute in Concord, Mass., and paroled Jan. 18, 1965.

There is no indication of the length of the sentence Brown received. It appears Brown was released before his parole date since he was found guilty of three speeding violations and four other motor vehicle violations in 1962 and 1964, pardon records reveal. He also was found guilty of five other motor vehicle violations from 1969 through 1972, his record shows. All the motor vehicle offenses occurred in Middlesex and Worcester County. In each case, Brown either paid the required fine or the offense was placed on file.

The Browns have been joined by several supporters sympathetic to their cause, some armed. They included a visit this week by Randy Weaver, whose wife and son were killed during the Ruby Ridge shoot-out with federal agents in Idaho in 1992.
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If they did not do so, Bastian suggested, the town should refund the couple's local property taxes.
I know that was brought up in another article posted by Demo.

I believe I have worked out an equitable solution to the property tax dilemma:
  • Deduct roadway usage for normal day-to-day travel.
  • Deduct roadway usage for the mailman.
  • Deduct roadway usage for media and supporters.
  • Deduct roadway usage for the non-raid (since Ed claims that there were "tanks", then those should be billed at a higher rate - since they're heavier and degrade the roadways faster).
  • Deduct Police and Ambulatory services that has been used. Charge a hazard fee for any time the police had to show up after Ed made public death threats about law enforcement officials. Make the hazard fee the town's overtime rate for officers.
  • Deduct landline/powerline usage (I work in a small town, and the town is the one that pays to have the trees trimmed back so we don't lose service every time the wind blows.)
  • Deduct the use of the public library, town hall, and whatever other public buildings Ed and his supporters have used.
  • To cover mental and emotional anguish for the town, deduct all but the amount below.
  • Refund $6.66
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Ed and Elaine have already had one property seized and ordered by the judge to be sold so no more property taxes there. And my guess is that similar orders and warrants have been issued on the home (there are several recent hidden or sealed docket entries in the last couple of weeks...) so no more property taxes on the residence either.

Meanwhile, Elaine didn't pay state business taxes any more than she paid federal income taxes, so I doubt the state of NH has much sympathy.
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I have proof that Reno Gonzalez is a Fed!

What was the last name of the Attorney General during the Waco standoff?

What is the last name of the Attorney General during the Ed Brown standoff?

Hmmmm. I'm surprised Ed hasn't figured it out yet.
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You're a sick woman Demo, you've singlehandedly invented a whole new paranoia vector. I love it.