Bob Schulz has completely lost it

[Nikki]

Although he has always had grand ideas about his own importance and and the number of his followers, Bob seems to have finally stepped off the edge into the deep end of the pool of megalomania:

The We The People organization will facilitate the financing, construction and operation of a Citizen Vigilance Center in each State Capital, modeled after Jefferson’s iconic estate Monticello. These Centers, manned with paid attorneys and staff, will provide legal expertise and management resources to help the People hold their elected officials accountable through civic education and civic action.

This just after begging for contributions to cover the cost of keeping his office open AND in the midst of two Tax Court trials.

[Judge Roy Bean]

I found one!

[Prof]

Bob has had trouble finding office space with a decent set of tires.

[LPC]

I'm not sure Schulz ever had any it to lose.

[notorial dissent]

I was going to say that most big cities have lots of abandoned strip malls available, but I suspect that even that would be well beyond his current, or future means. I think cloud cuckoo land is about as close as he is likely to get at this point.

[fortinbras]

A week ago Bob Schulz was arguing that Obama was 'way too slow in producing his birth certificate. Evidently Schulz had some notion that there was a deadline, and producing the b/c after that date somehow didn't count.

As for Bob Schulz's announcement of a staffed "Montecello" in every state - staffed with a lawyer and maybe more - another Schulz plan to scam his own followers - who apparently are thinning markedly. This sort of scam might have worked when times were more prosperous but in tough times he's trying to skate uphill.

[Nikki]

Just for the hell of it, let's assume that he can arrange some super-discount, prefab, multi-order discount to the point that he can get fully installed Monticello replicas for about $150,000 each.

Let's add in $5K a pop for land, utilities, permits, etc - assuming he's not building in the prime real estate areas.

Finally, we need to add in (at least for the first year) salaries for "paid attorneys and staff" [that will be at least three prople -- say $95K total).

So we have a first-year total, per state, of $250K -- ignoring the small stuff.

So, the question of the day is: Where the hell is Bob going to come up with 12.5 million dollars to start up this pipe dream. I mean, really, even the Mega Lottery payoffs usually stay slightly below that.

I guess that Bob is assuming that every one of his faithful followers is going to kick in $2,500 each to jump-start this groundbreaking project.

[grixit]

Here's one for just $9.95 with instant download! It's 7" x 10", but you can use the poster setting on your printer to quadruple that. Print it on regular paper, but glue it to heavy duty cardboard. Cut and assemble (get a 6th grader to help if it's too difficult) and give it a good coating of waterproof shellac. Now you have a solid, easily recognizable image for your brand of patriotic troubleshooting.

Ok so far? Now, each of your authorized franchisees needs to reconoitre their state capitol. Find the closest place where the cops aren't likely to roust anybody. That's your corporate branch office. So each day, the franchisee should go to the front of the capitol with their Monticello prominently displayed, say in on top of a grocery cart, and proclaim their services. They must remember to keep moving-- Black's Law Dictionary, Edition 3.24 defines "Loitering" as "Oops, lost your sovereignty again!" Then, when they get a customer they should take them back to the branch office to do business. Make sure to keep that cardboard box clean!

[notorial dissent]

And don't forget, DRY!!!

[AFTP]

Doesn't the ACLU help with stuff like this if needed?

[LPC]

Doesn't the ACLU help with stuff like this if needed?

Not really.

The ACLU will help to defend civil rights and civil liberties (hence the name), but they're not going to fight the federal income tax, because that's silly. They're also not going to "help the People hold their elected officials accountable through civic education and civic action" because those are political goals not related to civil rights.

[notorial dissent]

Actually if one can believe anything Schulz ever puts forth, what he is more closely fantasizing about is a cross between a PAC and some kind of public interest law foundation, not that he could likely meet the legal requirements for either, since they both require lots of reporting to various gov’t offices, and reporting of funds received, little things like that good ole Bob is so very lax about, but then again, when has that ever stopped him from a good con?

The We The People organization will facilitate the financing, construction and operation of a Citizen Vigilance Center in each State Capital, modeled after Jefferson’s iconic estate Monticello. These Centers, manned with paid attorneys and staff, will provide legal expertise and management resources to help the People hold their elected officials accountable through civic education and civic action.

The biggest thing I see with this, is that since most of his agenda is essentially tax fraud, he is going to be hard put to find any/enough lawyers willing to sacrifice their tickets on the alter of his vanity/psychosis, of course if they are willing to work for Schulz, they probably don’t have much if anything left to lose on one of his frivolous lawsuit crusades, and since I doubt they will be either willing or able to fund these crusades out of their own pockets, and certainly won’t be getting dime one from Bob, I don’t really see much ever happening. You know, kind of like everything else Bob has done in recent memory.

All in all, a good chuckle in the long list of Schulz fantasies.

[Thule]

Doesn't the ACLU help with stuff like this if needed?

No, the ACLU will not make Schultz feel like an Important Person or give him money.

[fortinbras]

Schulz has pretty much given up on the notion of winning his big lawsuit with the govt, and he has, once again, turned his attention to squeezing money out of his own followers. He's done this before, of course, such as in late 2001/early 2002 when he was slated to get a briefing on tax laws from the DOJ (not the IRS) in a Congressman's meeting room; he wanted his followers to send him money to pay for it (he was getting this briefing and the use of the room for free - at the expense of taxpayers, a group that does not include him). He sort of coaxed the money along by hinting that if you sent him money then he would relay any questions you might want to pose (and he was careful not to mention the questions that other people had already suggested [and paid for], so presumably he was paid for the same questions many times over). When that briefing was cancelled because of Schulz's own publicity, he didn't return any of the money.

Then he wanted his people to pay $75Gs to hire Mark Lane to take his "petition" case to the Supreme Court. Now $75Gs is probably more than most lawyers make in a year. The very same petition issue had already been TWICE rejected by the Supreme Court so this case was utterly hopeless. The fact that Lane would do it for nothing less than $75G pretty much indicates that (1) he wasn't an enthusiastic follower of Schulz, and (2) he knew the case was totally doomed and wouldn't improve his win-lose stats. (The case went down in flames and the pleadings submitted all the way to the Supreme Court indicates that Mark Lane was being paid at something better than 50¢ a word.)

He again charged his own followers for a make-believe Constitutional Convention which accomplished less than nothing and was immediately eclipsed by some other crank group's Constitutional Convention. And on and on.

Schulz long ago gave up the idea of winning money from the govt, and has been determined to fleece his own flock.

[notorial dissent]

(3 )Lane knew he had a sucker on the line and decided to get everything he could while he could. I would bet it was cash, and I do mean cash, up front, since I’m pretty sure Lane knew exactly who he was dealing with.

The problem with fleecing his current flock is that the turnips have run out of blood, and there are even fewer of them now than there used to be. I think the Tea Party has coopted a lot of them, and the rest have just wandered off in their continuing daze.

[Thule]

Then The fact that Lane would do it for nothing less than $75G pretty much indicates that (1) he wasn't an enthusiastic follower of Schulz, and (2) he knew the case was totally doomed and wouldn't improve his win-lose stats. (The case went down in flames and the pleadings submitted all the way to the Supreme Court indicates that Mark Lane was being paid at something better than 50¢ a word.)

I suspect that Lane demanded quite a bit less than 75.000, but Bob padded the numbers a bit. After all, ol' Bob's gotta eat to. Remember his "budget" for his grand Constitutional Convention? §600.000 for showing it live on internet.