From Thin Air - New Dinar RV Thread

[Gregg]

And for the money shot...

FBI agents raid downtown Toledo business

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TOLEDO, Ohio (WTVG) -- FBI agents raided a business in downtown near Fifth Third Field.

The business isin the upper level of a building that borders Fifth Third Field above Frickers. Again, the place was upstairs from the restaurant, and not connected to the business.

Around 12:30, we spotted FBI agents' vehicles. According to a source, they were inside the second-floor office of Commercial Energy Products. We're also told the raid may have been issued by the IRS.


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IRS raids downtown Toledo business

BLADE STAFF

The IRS raided a downtown Toledo business Wednesday morning.

Craig Casserly, spokesman for the IRS criminal investigation unit, could not comment on what businesses was raided in the 19 N. St. Clair St. building because legal documents were sealed in federal court. He expected the documents would be sealed for “quite awhile.”

He said agents were there on “official business” and that he believed the IRS was the only agency at the building.

A woman who works at Fricker’s Restaurant, which is in the same building where the raid took place, said the IRS came in about 10:30 a.m. but did not know which business was raided.

The building is home to several businesses, including Fricker’s; Milewski, Smith, and Tschantz; Commercial Energy Products; The B. H. Group, and Fracture Design.

The door to the offices was locked Wednesday evening and a special code is needed to access the elevator. There is a buzzer next to the elevator to call the different agencies, but no one answered.

The Lucas County Auditor’s Web site lists three different owners, including Right Field LLC, Lucas County Commissioners, and John M. Wilson and Arlene Singer.

http://m2.toledoblad...business-2.html

[GlimDropper]

Thanks for making those calls Gregg, if your contacts feel like closing down more dinar merchants I think I can find a few more names and provide some probable cause.

Craig Casserly, spokesman for the IRS criminal investigation unit, could not comment on what businesses was raided in the 19 N. St. Clair St. building because legal documents were sealed in federal court. He expected the documents would be sealed for “quite awhile.”

If I had any less than completely legitimate buisness dealings with Brad Huebner that last sentence would give me pause. There's what I presume to be a sealed federal indictment just sitting there and all of Brads buisness records are being examined as we speak. If I were Rudy, Steven, Rodger or Frank I'd hire an attorney and rush to the nearest IRS office and "come to Jesus" before Brad decides to shift as much of the legal burden away from him as possible.

At one point I thought Brad was a simple true believer who didn't realize what he was getting himself into. He's a long time MLM'er but involved in the more "legitimate" product based companies. If you can convince yourself that $40 a bottle fruit juice is a wonderful thing that must be shared with friends, relatives and any stranger passing on the street it isn't too much of a leap to buy into the whole dinar deal. But funneling money through someone else's company and not reporting some or all of his dinar selling income shows me (and not for the first time) that I was wrong about him.

Ah well, innocent until proven guilty and he'll get his day in court. I bet Charley Emmenenecker is starting to have second thoughts about dragging his Xango downline into the BH Group.

[Deep Knight]

According to Bradford Huebner, Bradford Huebner is an amazing guy!

Bradford Huebner, Toledo, OH native, is the consummate entrepreneur with over 40 years of being in the “trenches” building various types of businesses and learning how to “survive” in the best and worst of economic times. Brad gives much of the credit for his tenacity to all the coaches that mentored him in his successful football career ending as a D1 Linebacker. However, he would like to give specific recognition to his all time favorite coach, Bo Schembechler!

Brad also graduated as a Distinguished Military Graduate of the US Army ROTC program and served as an Army officer and led a group of men in the Viet Nam campaign. “If you can survive Bo and then Viet Nam….even today’s challenging business conditions are a piece of cake!”

When Brad returned from Viet Nam he joined a family Steel Distribution business and worked with his father and led a great team of employees to build the Company from $1 million to over $100 million! He was elected Chairman of his Industry Segment in the largest Trade Organization in the world. He led by example and creativity for four years and was featured twice on the cover of the National Trade Journal magazine!

A specific opportunity opened a new Chapter in Brad’s life where he entered the world of Network Marketing in the early 1990’s with Nu Skin International. Right after joining, Nu Skin encountered some political difficulties in the United States. Brad had made a “commitment” so he embarked on a 7 year journey commuting from Toledo to Tokyo. In his first year he attained the top rank of Blue Diamond helping Nu Skin launch 6 different countries throughout Asia. He was very instrumental in literally taking Nu Skin from a small manufacturing plant in Utah to the New York Stock Exchange building huge international networks without being able to speak the language!

Brad is passionate about the Direct Sales Industry because it is the purest form of capitalism. He will always be involved with developing a couple of these companies and using his expertise showing people how to become successful and create their own businesses without a significant investment. “Corporate America has a bad case of amnesia and people have got to understand that the world is changing fast and leaving massive amounts of casualties! If you own your own business it’s difficult to fire yourself!”

Brad started buying real estate at the ripe old age of 21 and has accumulated significant holdings in Idaho and Tennessee doing some development projects along the way. Business is business….once you understand the basic principles it really doesn’t matter what type of business you do…. just make a commitment, put your head down and go to work!

Commercial Energy Products, Inc. is Brad’s most recent company where he and his partner are the Manufacturer Representative’s for America’s ONLY Induction lighting fixture Company, Full Spectrum Solutions. ALL commercial and industrial lighting is OBSOLETE to the Induction technology. Brad is in the process of putting a national and international network of Reps together to build this Company to over $400 million in the next five years!

Brad formed The BH Group as a portal that contains thousands of individuals that he has assisted with the investment in the Iraqi Dinar. It will also attract entrepreneurs and positive minded individuals from around the world interested in ongoing types of businesses and financial opportunities presented by The BH Group.

Brad is often asked when he plans on retiring. He answers emphatically, “NEVER….I’m just getting dangerous with all that I’ve learned along the way, WHY would I quit now! As I get older, my focus is not so much about making money for me but to be able to make enough money to accomplish many of the “mega projects” I want to focus on in my remaining years and try to make a positive difference in the world I leave behind.

Some of this is easy to do searches on, such as the Bo Schembechler reference. In another "pipl" online reference he listed the U of Michigan as where he played, which means this would be after 1968 and before mid 70's (since he "led a group of men in the Viet Nam campaign") - but for some strange reason his name isn't on any of the comprehensive team lists from the Bentley Historical Library. Doesn't this guy realize that this stuff is online?

As for "BH Group," one might think this was his initials, but just in case I looked up what else the initials might mean...

According InternetSlang.com

What is BH?
BH is "Be Happy" or "Bloody Hell" or "Big Head"

Acronym Finder adds (out of many)
Bore Hole, Blockhead, Bio Hazard, Butt Head, Blue Hair and Black Hat.

And, according to the one "porn slang" reference I found, BH on such forums stands for "Beverly Hills," or rather, women who look like they would live there but instead are having sex in front of cameras. Given the wear and tear of that industry, they might indeed need "nu skin" so there may be a link there. Then again, I doubt many of these ladies invest in Dinars, but you never know...

[notorial dissent]

My question would be: if

...joined a family Steel Distribution business and worked with his father and led a great team of employees to build the Company from $1 million to over $100 million! He was elected Chairman of his Industry Segment in the largest Trade Organization in the world. He led by example and creativity for four years and was featured twice on the cover of the National Trade Journal magazine!

this were true, why is he in MLM??? There is no sane world in which if the above were true, this makes a lick of sense. I would be willing to bet that if someone bothered to check that this would ring as falsely as the rest of the story does.

[Deep Knight]

Deep Knight has been traveling on business, then spending the bulk of the weekend recovering (from Friday's turbulent flights, not the shock that the RV hasn't happened yet). Whatever the cause, MacHaffie has never recovered.

Saturday, July 30, 2011
Dinar Intel Updates

Hi all! We have been very busy the last few days and I have checked for new news on the dinar rv, but all I'm hearing is we are still waiting. Okie and Tony still say "any minute now", others say some time this week, Bluwolf says it's not going to happen until our government reaches and agreement on the budget, Blaino thinks it will be in Sept (although I don't put much creedence in what he says anymore). I believe no one knows for sure and it will happen when it will happen. There is nothing concrete. There are some bank stories that the banks are ready and waiting also, actually they say they've been ready for the last 2 months. This post says it much better than I have time to write. It really expresses what I have been thinking about all of this these last few days. I personally believe it will happen and it will happen soon. God bless and have a great weekend. If I get any more significant news, I will pass it on. ~~s.

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Posted by John MacHaffie at 8:57 PM 0 comments

More of the same, surprise surprise, but at least we have this classic in doubletalk from Friday.


-WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN YOU CASH IN YOU DINARS 07/29/2011
(Post at OOMF, originally from March 2011 - On How Iraq Can Afford to RV)

irst off, I’ll use the exchange of a 10,000 IQD (Iraqi Dinar) note as my example. To help explain the economics of this cash-in example, I will use a 1:1 cash-in ratio between the USD (US Dollar) and IQD (Iraqi Dinar), that is given a two-tier payout, and a 2% bank spread.

What You Will Receive:
If you were to cash in your 10,000 IQD note with a bank that charges you a 2% spread, you would personally receive a net take-home of $9,800 credited to your bank account.

What Your Bank Will Receive:
Your Bank will receive a $10,000 credit to its Federal Reserve Account. They will also be able to add the $200 profit to their “capital account”.

If you don’t understand the “Fractional Banking“ concept that runs our country, you may want to, as that is what this is based on, and is what is behind this entire concept and plan. To learn more about this concept, I suggest you click HERE, and go to a video post I brought to the forum previously, and posted in my “Tidbits“ section.
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Ultimately, the bank wins because they are able to gain $2,000 in lending power under the 10% “Fractional Banking“ model.

What the US Treasury Will Receive:
First off, the US Treasury will receive $3,500 in estimated taxes in the quarter after the exchange, because you are now in the “rich” category and get to enjoy the 35% tax bracket. This lowers the “net cost” of the IQD exchange to the US financial system to $6,500 USD (i.e. $10,000 out – $3,500 in). Furthermore, the US Treasury’s rate is higher than the banking rate (we will use in this example 1.25), thereby further reducing their “net cost” from $6,500 to $4,000.

Oil Now Enters the Picture:
At some point, a Fed-appointed agent orders $12,500 worth of oil from Iraq. Payment will consist of a $12,500 transfer from the Fed’s foreign currency reserve IQD account to the IRAQ Oil payment account at the CBI (Central Bank of Iraq) in a form otherwise known as PetroDollars/PetroDinar. Even though the world spot price of oil is defined in terms of USD, the actual transaction may take place in any internationally recognized currency agreed to by the parties. For example, Iran only accepts Yen from Japan for their oil orders, because they don’t want USD in their foreign currency reserves.

How the CBI “RECAPTURES” the Money:
The $12,500 order is filled with 250 barrels of oil based on the spot price on the date of the sale (for this example we used a $50 USD spot price). What does it cost Iraq to produce the oil to fill this order? Well they have negotiated productions agreements for approximately $1.50 USD/barrel. From that price $.50 USD goes to the national Iraqi oil company who is the partner in the field the oil came from. Out of the remaining $1.00 the other oil field partners have to pay the Iraq government a profit tax of $.35 USD (35%). The net cost to Iraq to produce a barrel of oil used in this scenario is $.65 USD. (i.e. $1.50 – .50 – .35)

What does all that mean? It cost Iraq $162.50 to bring back a 10,000 IQD note! Can they afford that? I think so! So, instead of paying out $12,500 for a 10,000 IQD note, they only pay $162.50! That doesn’t add to the money supply much at all does it! They receive their IQD back and place it in the CBI, or destroy it.

The transaction is completed with the Federal Reserve exchanging foreign reserve credits which are equal to $12,500 USD (which had a net acquisition cost of $4,000 USD for the US) for 250 barrels of oil (which has a TOTAL COST to produce of $162.50 USD for Iraq.

More completely explained, and simply put, it cost Iraq $162.50 USD from their foreign currency reserve accounts to redeem the value of 10,000 IQD, which goes into their operating accounts. At the same time the US got $12,500 worth of oil for a net cost of $4,000. That’s how it was originally planned for Iraq to RV at 1 IQD = 1 USD, with the variable being the political element (i.e. UN Sanctions, GOI (Government of Iraq) actions, IMF actions, World Bank actions etc.)

Other Factors that Strengthen Iraq’s Position and Ability to RV:
■DFI (Development Fund for Iraq) Funds Returned & Other Assets: $280+ Billion USD, plus other frozen assets (estimated at $100 billion) will be returned back to Iraq and added to their foreign currency reserve, bringing it up to $430+ billion USD.
■CBI IQD Reserve Requirement Adjustment: The CBI will change the current fractional IQD reserve requirements from 100% to 15% at the appropriate time. As a result, the the total potential money supply will be raised in value to $2.8 Trillion (430 billion/15), while at the same time, the total physical IQD in circulation will be reduced by removing the large bills with the 3 zeros over a period of 2 years, as they have indicated.
■Oil Production Increased: Iraq will also execute the plan they announced to increase oil production from 2+ million barrels/day to 10 million barrels/day with the resulting revenues flowing directly to the Iraq treasury.
■Oil Futures & Forex Contracts Added: To further stir the pot, the CBI will continue to use it’s sales window to market oil futures and forex contracts. They have shown they can generate significant cash flow in the private market. Think of their impact in public markets.

There, my friends, is how this plan will be enacted and made possible. Taking NOTHING, and turning it into SOMETHING, then bringing it back to a “manageable and reasonable something” that is accepted and supported by seeming endless supplies of oil. This is how the world’s ENTIRE NEW MONETARY SYSTEM will be regenerated and supported and backed, given, in essence, a re-birth and renewed for most governments and economic regions… even by “Black Gold”.

So, here’s the summary for all the “players” involved, giving ballpark numbers, and not taking into account superfluous costs, fees, and other small details that don’t really affect the larger picture:

■Investor’s Net Gain: $10,000 – $200 = $9,800 x .65 = 6,370 for an investment that cost $10
■Bank’s Net Gain: $200 added to “capital account”, plus $2,000 they can use to loan out.
■US Treasury Net Gain: $2,500 from the .25 spread on top + $3,500 in quarterly taxes = $6,000
■CBI/GOI/Iraqi People Net Gain: $12,500 – $162.50 = $12,337.50 + Profits from “Other Factors”
■Overall Net Gain for All Involved: $6,370+$200+$6,000+12,337.20 = $24,907.20
This is the wealth that was generated from a single 10,000 IQD note that was given an original value of approximately $10! Is that amazing or what?! You tell me… can Iraq afford NOT to RV?!!! Will the IMF allow them to NOT RV their currency, but simply replace their large denoms for smaller ones?!!! LOL!!!

Posted by John MacHaffie at 3:25 PM 0 comments

[Deep Knight]

I have a great deal for anyone who reads this.

I have a dime. Give me a dollar for it, and you'll make huge amounts of money!

How, you might ask? First of all, by giving me a dollar you make a dollar because you can lend that money you just spent. If you don’t understand the “Fractional Banking“ concept that runs our country, you may want to, as that is what this is based on, and is what is behind this entire concept and plan. To learn more about this concept, I suggest you check out this link on using fractions. http://www.helpwithfractions.com/math-h ... elper.html

Now, let's say that dime was silver. It's not, but let's say it is! Then it's worth $2.84 in melt value! See http://www.coinflation.com/coins/1946-1 ... Value.html If you don't melt it, it's worth twice this because of “Fractional Banking“ so you see that it really didn't matter it wasn't silver. Pretty neat, huh?

Now, let's say you take this dime and place an order for $12,500 worth of oil from Iraq. Payment will consist of a $12,500 transfer from your foreign currency reserve to the IRAQ Oil payment account at the CBI (Central Bank of Iraq) in a form otherwise known as PetroDollars/PetroDimes. Even though the world spot price of oil is defined in terms of USD, the actual transaction may take place in any internationally recognized currency agreed to by the parties. For example, Iran only accepts Yen from Japan for their oil orders, because they have a yen for it. In this case it will be as a single dime 'cause that's what you have.

How you “RECAPTURE” the Money:
The $12,500 order is filled with 250 barrels of oil based on the spot price on the date of the sale (for this example we used a $50 USD spot price). What does it cost Iraq to produce the oil to fill this order? Well they have negotiated productions agreements for approximately $1.50 USD/barrel. From that price $.50 USD goes to the national Iraqi oil company who is the partner in the field the oil came from. Out of the remaining $1.00 the other oil field partners have to pay the Iraq government a profit tax of $.35 USD (35%). The net cost to Iraq to produce a barrel of oil used in this scenario is $.65 USD. (i.e. $1.50 – .50 – .35). What happens to the rest? Well, in this example it's yours!

So, let's sum this all up. You have.

1 dime, = $0.10
1 dollar to loan = $1.00
1 dime's melt value = $2.84
I dime's melt value to loan = $2.84
A whole bunch of oil = $12,337.50

So, you make more than $12,344.28 for each dime you give me a dollar for, and I can take your dollar, get 10 more dimes, and so on and so forth so we can do this all day until you become a millionaire!

[Omne]

Posted by John MacHaffie at 8:57 PM 0 comments

More of the same, surprise surprise, but at least we have this classic in doubletalk from Friday.


-WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN YOU CASH IN YOU DINARS 07/29/2011
(Post at OOMF, originally from March 2011 - On How Iraq Can Afford to RV)

Wow...I mean wow.....where to even start correcting this foolishness.....

[notorial dissent]

Well, it certainly gives a whole new dimension to fuzzy math at the very least.

Nothing like starting with a fantasy premise and expanding on it. Don't know the real figures, just make some up, your audience won't know the difference, and they don't mean anything anyway.

Yeee cats!!!!!!!!!

[GlimDropper]

According to Bradford Huebner, Bradford Huebner is an amazing guy!

<Snip>

Some of this is easy to do searches on, such as the Bo Schembechler reference. In another "pipl" online reference he listed the U of Michigan as where he played, which means this would be after 1968 and before mid 70's (since he "led a group of men in the Viet Nam campaign") - but for some strange reason his name isn't on any of the comprehensive team lists from the Bentley Historical Library. Doesn't this guy realize that this stuff is online?

I seem to remember Brad speaking on one of the many dinar calls (I don't recall which one) that he played under Schembechler when Bo was coaching the Miami (of Ohio) Red Hawks. I only spent a few moments trying to find the 1968 Red Hawks roster but came up empty. On the same call Brad stated that the family steel buisness he built into a 100 million dollar concern seems to have been wiped out sometime in the early 1990s because the "bank failed" or some such thing. It wasn't the first time I've had cause to regret that people holding dinar calls flat out suck at asking follow up questions.


Anyone feel like listening to an asset protection scam sales pitch? CorpOffshore.com, the audio link is near the top of the page (the actual call starts about three minutes in). The thumbnail sketch seems to be you cough up better than a grand to a guy named Frank Buck and he sets you up with a corporation in Nevada, an IBC in the Seychelles as well as a bank account in Belize and the combination will give you maximum tax advantages and asset protection once the "RV" has made you an instant millionaire.

Adam Montana of the dinar vets forum very well may own that website (as well as DocumentingServices.Com). Where most dinar pimps work in concert with the currency dealers, they're sorta the "magic bean" shills, Adam seems more like he's selling people care and feeding instructions for the golden goose you're sure to find once your bean stalk has grown up through the clouds. But color me skeptical when I find someone offering asset protection advice that he sells as a ClickBank E-Book. I'm just wondering what sort of rabbit hole Frank is sending Adam's VIP members money down?


[On Edit:]
I do respect the people around here's time so I cut out sotra the money shot of the asset protection sales pitch to dinar holders, how to redeem your dinar without evil Uncle Sam getting his share (Link). That clip is about two and a half minutes long.

And just from a little plunking, here's Frank Buck introducing himself to the Money Maker Group Forum. Gee, what so ever could go wrong here:

Legalking

post Dec 26 2007, 12:50 PM
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hello Everyone

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Thank you
Have a good New Year

Oh, and the hits keep rolling, from someone's abandoned autosurf blog:

Tuesday Night: 9pm EST
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Frank Buck is also one of the Principle Founders of http://www.worldassetgrowth.com/?ref=playuasong

World Asset Growth? Here's it's revoked Nevada registration but what was it? Why, it was an autosurf/rev share program. It isn't hard to surmise why Frank now calls himself a "former" attorney, I wonder what jurisdictions he's been disbarred from.

[Deep Knight]

I seem to remember Brad speaking on one of the many dinar calls (I don't recall which one) that he played under Schembechler when Bo was coaching the Miami (of Ohio) Red Hawks. I only spent a few moments trying to find the 1968 Red Hawks roster but came up empty. On the same call Brad stated that the family steel buisness he built into a 100 million dollar concern seems to have been wiped out sometime in the early 1990s because the "bank failed" or some such thing. It wasn't the first time I've had cause to regret that people holding dinar calls flat out suck at asking follow up questions.

In certain bios, he says that he played football "growing up and at U of M," and got a BBA at Miami U in 1969. Since Mr. Schembechler coached at both ('63 - '67 at Miami U, '68 onwards at U of Mich) I suppose there's a possibility Bradford went to Michigan and then transferred to Miami before he left, but forgive me if it I smell a bit of an odor there. It would be like me saying that I had Brigitte Bardot as my first lover, chronologically possible but... Besides, it was Anita Ekberg, and she said I was "really great" for a 10 year old. She wanted to marry me, but then this bank failed...

[GlimDropper]

Oh, I'm not claiming Brad's story holds together, I'm only interested in accurately documenting it.

So the Creature of Jeckyll Island ate your marriage to Anita Ekberg? My God they're more evil than even the sovereigns think.

[Deep Knight]

So the Creature of Jeckyll Island ate your marriage to Anita Ekberg? My God they're more evil than even the sovereigns think.

Not quite, the bank failure wasn't financial but structural. It seems that a group of movie-goers, already spooked by the film "Dr. Jeckyl Meets the Island Creature," were terrified when a Heckle and Jeckle cartoon came on in place of reel 3, and ran out of the theater shrieking only to be joined by also-screaming teenage girls chasing The Beatles and a rather large group of marathon runners from the Tokyo Olympics who took a wrong turn in Yokohama. This led them to the roof of Anita's bank, which collapsed, leaving her money buried in rubble. Since payments were coming due and dues needed payment, her temporary insolvency drove her to ask for a loan from her costar in "4 for Texas," Frank Sinatra. Being young and jealous, I had often sworn that my lips would never touch the lips that asked for credit from anyone whose lips had sung "My Way," and even though Frank didn't cover that song for another 5 years, the wedding was off.



Speaking of crazed ramblings, not only does MacHaffie's RAP NESARA forum have a feature 2 Ix, 7 Pop, 8 Manik Update by Sheldan Nidle for the Spiritual Hierarchy and the Galactic Federation (which strangely enough doesn't mention the Iraqi Dinar RV as one of the long-awaited " new ways of administering your financial and governmental powers") but also a "Where Do You Plan To Cash Dinars?" poll!

Where Do You Plan To Cash Dinars?

Treasury Compliant Bank 44 (25%)
Currency Dealer 18 (10%)
Dinar Dealer 52 (29%)
Bank 68 (39%)
Other 17 (9%)

Vote on this poll
Votes so far: 174
Days left to vote: 3

Strangely enough, the votes shown add up to 199, not 174, and the percentages to 112%!

[notorial dissent]

Oh well, a fantasy poll for a fantasy RV, why should you expect the numbers there to make any more sense than they do otherwise?

[GlimDropper]

Well, that poll is based on an RV of only 12% and anyone who's been following this poll since 2004 will tell you that the "intel" clearly indicates that no fewer than 3,000% of it's participants expect to cash in their dinar somewhere.

[texino]

" . . . Anita Ekberg, country will grow!" (Bob Dylan)

[Deep Knight]

" . . . Anita Ekberg, country will grow!" (Bob Dylan)

The complete verse (from Bob's "I Shall Be Free") was:

Well, my telephone rang it would not stop
It's President Kennedy callin' me up
He said, "My friend, Bob, what do we need to make the country grow" ?
I said, "My friend, John, "Brigitte Bardot,
Anita Ekberg
Sophia Loren"
Country'll grow.

Hence my following Brigitte with Anita in my comment.

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8-4-2011 Guru Bear5642 I HAVE A CONTACT WITH THE CBI AND HE TOLD ME THAT I NEEDED TO GET READY, THAT WE WOULD SEE THE RV NO LATER THAN FRIDAY. I WAS EVEN TOLD A POSSIBLE RATE - $2.30. HE TOLD ME IT WOULD COME IN LOW FOR THE SAKE OF GETTING THE LARGER NOTES OFF THE STREET. HE DID SAY IT WAS TEMPORARY RATE

Yep, coming in low at an increase of 270,480%

[texino]

I know the words DK; I was just priming your pump . . .

[Deep Knight]

8-4-2011 Guru OkieOilMan I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO SEE WHAT OR WHOM WAS PROFITTING BY R/V BEING DELAYED. IT BECAME APPARENT BY OBSERVING THE CURRENCY FLUXUATIONS AND THE STOCK VALUES PLUMMET, SOMEONE OR SOME ENTITY HAD SOMETHING TO GAIN BY THE CONSTANT DELAY. THOSE IN CONTROL (ILLUMINATI??) HAS PROFITED GREATLY BY SHORTING THE STOCK MARKET IN CONJUNCTION WITH INVESTING IN PRECIOUS METALS. WE ARE NOW AT THE TIME THAT ABOUT ALL THAT CAN BE EXTRACTED FROM THE MARKETS WITHOUT A TOTAL GLOBAL COLLAPSE OF THE WHOLE MONETARY SYSTEM HAS BEEN ACCOMPOLISHED. WE ARE JUST NOW READY FOR THE GLOBAL CURRENCY ALIGNMENT THAT WE HAVE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT AND REALLY DID NOT REALIZE THE SIGNIFICANCE TILL NOW. NOW IS THE TIME-THE WORLD WAITS FOR THE INEVITABLE--

I don't think the world is either waiting or that when OkieOilMan says "inevitable" he means what a normal person whould.

Let's talk about "Cui bono" (Latin, "Whom does it benefit?"). Since the RV is fiction, it can't be delayed, so nobody benifits from this. But who does by talking about it and saying it's real but delayed? Dinar dealers, pure and simple. If you found this site because you're curious about "investing," ask yourself, why in the world would anyone sell them to you if they believed that such huge profits were just around the corner? Even if it was 20% or 30% profit not the wild 100,000% these idiots talk about?

And, what have people who tell you this is a scam going to gain?

I know the words DK; I was just priming your pump . . .

I figured you did, but wanted to share with others who aren't early Dylan fans. Consider Deep primed, dimed, and rhymed.

Also, for full disclosure, I also watched Antita in "La Dolce Vita" on cable on Sunday. A disturbing movie. And, to be honest, the only movie star I had a crush on at that point in my life was Sally Fields, but the "Flying Nun" cured that.

[Deep Knight]

It's 10:00 PM in Baghdad, in my view "after Friday" and, surprise, no RV. But, yesterday the Iraqi Central Bank did talk about plans for redenomination.

Iraq to remove three zeros from the dinar
Published August 4th, 2011 - 09:24 GMT

The Iraqi Central Bank announced the completion of a plan to remove three zeros from the dinar, replacing current banknotes with new ones. The Bank will re-print 30 trillion dinars (26 billion dollars).
According to Mazhar Mohammad Saleh, an expert in the Iraqi Central Bank, in a speech with the ALHAYAT of London, “our problem lies in the timing of the currency exchange, as we need to select a suitable time for implementing the project without obstacles.”
The Central Bank planned to remove three zeros from the Iraqi dinar, after suffering from inflation and the decline of the currency during the nineties, due to economic sanctions. The value of the dinar decreased internationally to its current value of approximately 1120 dinars per dollar.
In 2003, the Central Bank adopted a new mechanism to maintain the dinar’s exchange rate. It created a foreign exchange auction to sell dollars that Iraq obtained from the sale of oil in the global markets and then transferred to the bank to sell in local currency, which helped raise the value of the dinar over the last few years to more than 2000 points.
Saleh estimated the government will exchange more than 30 trillion Iraqi dinars, or more than $26 billion dollars. The most important change after deleting the zeros, is to reduce the number of banknotes in circulation, simplifying the payment system in Iraq.
Some economists have warned that the process of exchanging the Iraqi currency will be rife with corruption due to the inaccurate structuring of Iraqi banks. Previous attempts to exchange the currency resulted in major corruption, costly to the Iraqi economy. However, Saleh responds that the process of changing the currency in 2004, occurred under the exceptional circumstance of an occupation, was managed by a civil American governor, and was still successful.
The Central Bank sells, through a daily auction, between $150 million dollars and $190 million dollars daily to clients of private banks and the financial companies

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There are 3 comments, the first by a "true believer."

jj (not verified) says:Thu, 08/04/2011 - 15:28
what man junk is another man treasure Go RV

What man junk? Deep Knight's junk was called a treasure ("Uno Tresoro") by Sophia Loren in the mid 60's, but more interestingly, this hit the Dinar Guru site, which of course applied the projected new value to the old...

8-4-2011 Newshound Guru Bondlady in the article...where it says "the central bank agreed with the Government to Almaasat financial restructuring of the currency, organization and development of coins." the cbi has finally gotten governmental approval. the government finally backs shabs...finally the government and parliment has done something constructive for the bennifit of there economy and people. This is the beginning of the end for us, imo

8-4-2011 Guru Bluwolf the world economies are starting to cry out, for they are hurting. all drops in all economy issues has been staged to happen, so all the 186 rv's will occur, it will pop up

8-4-2011 Guru Kaperoni recent articles saying: they are now going to start the process..this week...to remove the 3 zeros. they will probably have a coin that is lower in value to be in line with a new rate. they want people to start using the lower coins. they may change the value of the Dinar for it to be competitive in the world market and be at least as strong as the dollar, they are implying that each Dinar will be worth at least $1, but they are hinting at it being a bit higher, and I think they are hinting at the old RI value of around $3.00 IMO.

8-5-2011 Guru Med FROM THE ARTICLES IT SEEMS THAT THE PROCESS WAS STARTING, IT INVOLVES COINS NEW DENOMS, SOME EDUCATING OF THE PUBLIC AND DETERMINING THE NEW EXCHANGE RATE. IT WILL BE AROUND THAT RATE…. [.86], I KEEP GETTING THESE TIPS THAT IT IS GONNA BE HIGHER. I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT FROM NOW TO MID SEPTEMBER FOR THIS TO END.

A new Dinar with 3 zeros removed will be worth about 1000 Dinars today, about $0.86. Now, all you have to do is arrange to have them exchanged before the today's Dinars are taken out of circulation.

Now if I could only work the lyrics of another Bob Dylan song into this post, my day would be complete!

[notorial dissent]

And what it ends up at, is that at the end of the day you will have a smaller pile of dinars worth exactly, give or take a few cents, what the old pile was worth, providing you can even exchange the old ones for the new ones. Net effect all the way around will be roughly zero!!! The printer is the only one who will really come out ahead on this deal.