Open discussion forum about NESARA, Dove of Oneness, Patrick Bellringer, Truth Warrior and all the others spinning the NESARA tale. Includes the latest rumors about the Galacticans comings to Earth and Jennifer's blood ozonation machine.
Deep Knight wrote:There's only one place of safety, consecrated ground where the servants of the evil one can't tread. You know, churches, chapels, cathedrals, graveyards and the like. You might do a Google search and see if any of these are set up as a bed 'n breakfast or hotel. As hiding out tends to be a bit boring, you might look for one with cable and HBO.
You don't understand, YALE really doesn't approve of my continued existence. If I'm gonna have to go to New Haven, I need to arrange to move the Vatican, Westminster and the Forbidden City there first.
I'm not sure I'm even allowed in Connecticut. Can we do this at Brown? George Mason would be too obviously my home court.
Supreme Commander of The Imperial Illuminati Air Force
Your concern is duly noted, filed, folded, stamped, sealed with wax and affixed with a thumbprint in red ink, forgotten, recalled, considered, reconsidered, appealed, denied and quietly ignored.
Gregg wrote:You don't understand, YALE really doesn't approve of my continued existence. If I'm gonna have to go to New Haven, I need to arrange to move the Vatican, Westminster and the Forbidden City there first.
I'm not sure I'm even allowed in Connecticut. Can we do this at Brown? George Mason would be too obviously my home court.
George Mason is one of my ancestors. Go anarchy!
Goodness is about what you do. Not what you pray to. T. Pratchett
Always be a moving target. L.M. Bujold
Cathulhu wrote:George Mason is one of my ancestors. Go anarchy!
Looking him up in the book "Who's Who in Secret Societies," I see that George Mason was not only a 33rd degree Mason and a 42nd degree George, but like most of the founding fathers an Illuminatus (Latin for "lit up guy"). This makes you eligable for a "fast track to evil" membership as a "legacy." Fill out a few forms, make one human sacrifice, and you're in! Better yet, since you're friendly with Gregg and Pottapaug1938 AND they're marked for liquidation for not dueling to the death, you can kill one or both of them and get extra "Illuminati Shopping" points (redemable at most major retailers)!
The bad news is that you only have a short time to do this, as I have it on good authority that the world will end on 11-11-11. This will also put a bit of a dent into your cashing in any Iraqi Dinars you might have. If it's not one thing, it's another.
11-9-2011 Guru Jonnywg the latest report is that the bank screens have been cleared. this means that in the bank records and history the currency, IQD DINAR, has been now completely removed so the new value can start and thus cleared of old data. we anticipate action soon.
11-9-2011 Guru Okie_Oil_Man AS TO THE RV, STILL HIGH EXPECTATIONS OF ANY MOMENT.
As to the rate, a poll on MacHaffie's site gives us some hard data:
You mean to tell me, that there are actually 97 people on MacHaffie's site who actually recognize a scam when they see one and are brave enough to call it that? Amazing. Why the lemmings must be infuriated at this point.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.
Looking him up in the book "Who's Who in Secret Societies," I see that George Mason was not only a 33rd degree Mason and a 42nd degree George, but like most of the founding fathers an Illuminatus (Latin for "lit up guy"). This makes you eligable for a "fast track to evil" membership as a "legacy." Fill out a few forms, make one human sacrifice, and you're in! Better yet, since you're friendly with Gregg and Pottapaug1938 AND they're marked for liquidation for not dueling to the death, you can kill one or both of them and get extra "Illuminati Shopping" points (redemable at most major retailers)!
Why would I want to step down to your mere membership?
Goodness is about what you do. Not what you pray to. T. Pratchett
Always be a moving target. L.M. Bujold
notorial dissent wrote:You mean to tell me, that there are actually 97 people on MacHaffie's site who actually recognize a scam when they see one and are brave enough to call it that? Amazing. Why the lemmings must be infuriated at this point.
This is a possibile explanation, but it's also possible that these are people like us who read it for amusement and aren't "true believers," or actual "true believers" who are so clueless they can't get it together to click on their actual choice.
Cathulhu wrote:Why would I want to step down to your mere membership?
Yeah, I know you upper-level types have distain for "boots on the ground," but their tasks are valuable too. Someone's got to the legwork, natural disasters don’t cause themselves you know. The Council of Twelve might have made the decision to block the NESARA announcement, but it’s the rank and file that seize the prosperity packies, bribe politicians and terrorize the press. You think it’s easy putting severed horse’s heads in Hollywood movie director’s beds? Just cleaning the chainsaw afterwards takes hours!
Just cleaning the chainsaw afterwards takes hours!
I borrowed the chainsaw from a civilian and returned it uncleaned. I'm a specialist, not a chain saw cleaner. Seriously, the only DNA they could have found would have been the horse's.
Supreme Commander of The Imperial Illuminati Air Force
Your concern is duly noted, filed, folded, stamped, sealed with wax and affixed with a thumbprint in red ink, forgotten, recalled, considered, reconsidered, appealed, denied and quietly ignored.
This is one of those double edged swords, I'm dying of curiosity at this point, and knowing you I so don't want to know.
He's right you know, the cleanup isn't the responsibility of the maintenance shift, I mean does a surgeon ever clean up after himself? There's a hierarchy to these things after all.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.
Part of being a professional is knowing how to use the right tools for the job. Sometimes it means a chainsaw, sometimes it means a syringe of Potassium Hydroxide.
Supreme Commander of The Imperial Illuminati Air Force
Your concern is duly noted, filed, folded, stamped, sealed with wax and affixed with a thumbprint in red ink, forgotten, recalled, considered, reconsidered, appealed, denied and quietly ignored.
Supreme Commander of The Imperial Illuminati Air Force
Your concern is duly noted, filed, folded, stamped, sealed with wax and affixed with a thumbprint in red ink, forgotten, recalled, considered, reconsidered, appealed, denied and quietly ignored.
High tech is great, but I prefer the old ways, like dropping a 2 ton safe filled with Iraqi Dinars on their head. At least it gets some use out of this currency.
Friday, November 11, 2011
Dinar Intel Updates - 11/10/11
(FREEWAY BILL):~~ 11:30 EST~~Well, I came home after having a absolutely fabulous day of information called into me and listened to the call with great anticipation. Since, I did not hear any of the things that I had been told, I went back to confirm what I had heard and I got further confirmation on all of it.... has me puzzled...
10:34 PM viper51: raceman YW
(FREEWAY BILL): The Iraqi Parliament met all day and most of their night last night and have accomplished many things. They took care of the last thing we have been waiting to hear and also voted on the biggest thing that would have to happen prior to an activation of the RV. Also the China issues, according to my sources have been settled and this would mean very good news for dinar holders as they got what they asked for. IMO IMO IMO we are past the point of absolutely no return!
10:34 PM ladyjay: FREEWAY BILL'S good night post was from Mathew 18:19 ~Peace and Love~
10:34 PM marshw: (FREEWAY BILL): The activation cannot be held off any longer & we should see it tremendously soon. This is a night that you should go to bed feeling very good about your blessing. I know that I will....(FREEWAY BILL): This in no way is diminishing Dan's call. I would assume if he had heard this news, he either is waiting for his own confirmation or chose not to put it out. Talked to Tony for literally seconds & he was on another call & I am assuming he is confirming whatever of this he has heard.
(FREEWAY BIL): JLarsen These are solid contacts and after I got this news, I called every source I have and I got confirmation that that is where they are as well from 80% of them... (FREEWAY BILL): poprv I think, after what happened today, they could be doing it anytime..
(FREEWAY BILL): Keep rolling folks, I am going to bed after a very busy dinar day and trying to work at the same time.... Remember GIVE FORWARD and always remember that we have to Claim this and Agree on this RV for it to come! "Where two or more are gathered in my name ....." Claim it, Agree with it! GOD said it, I believe it and it is so!!! GOD BLESS and GOODNIGHT Love to all of you crazy people!!!
Arthur
Posted by John MacHaffie at 4:50 AM
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Remember, we have to claim the RV is to come and agree the RV is to come for it to come.
Saturday, November 12, 2011 Dinar - Things To Consider From the PTR forum on 11-12-11 Things To Consider (By Jonnywg)
Here are some things to consider regarding the “history” of the RV of (especially) the IQD (as disclosed by intel sources who think you have a right to know).
1) Despite the fact that the RV could have officially been announced several months ago, the economic woes of the rest of the world caused the BIS/IMF and the worlds various Ministers of Finance and governing officials to step in to use the RV as a platform to prevent (for however long it lasts) the destruction of the world economy and the banking infrastructure.
2) If the RV had actually taken place prior to solving the tremendous issues at hand, any financial gains that “we” (primarily we in the U.S.) might have seen would have been wiped out by the collapse of some of the banks. (The Big 4 were not the only banks that would have been in trouble) The vast majority of you would have then been forced to try to collect from an already broke FDIC.
3) Despite what your feelings are for the people involved in the delay, the end result of their involvement actually turns out to have been a benefit to all of us since the IQD rate has been forced upward from anything that we would have logically expected if it were left entirely to decisions made by the GOI.
4) With the coming together of a “deal” between the U.S., China, Russia and several other countries, the details of which can’t be disclosed, the economies of the “deal” participants will be positively affected. Some U.S. debt will be eliminated, the IMF’s emergency fund will be partially replenished and you will see cargo, now sitting in the U.S. harbors, being off-loaded and delivered. (Think Xmas here)
5) While many have been hurt along the way and many more are struggling or barely hanging on, rest assured that the long awaited, much prayed for and, in some cases, much cursed event is very, very close to becoming a reality.
P.S. For further reference read Ms. Christine LeGarde speech
On CNN in the last few hours –
Christine LeGarde, “China has saved the European union” and somewhat emotional about it
The bottom lie is that the financial workings of the people in charge has saved millions from catastrophe. We have to accept the pitfalls and delays of our “blessed event” try to accept that the information givers are not trying to mislead us, in fact they are trying to help and guide us.
Myself and others have been given information that while correct at the time.............turned out wrong or different. In this RV world you have to accept it and move on
jonny
Posted by John MacHaffie at 7:08 AM
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The five-step excuse for predictions gone wrong - 1. It could have been but it wasn't, 2. If it had been "it" wouldn't have been as good, 3. It's actually good because "it" will be better now, 4. A lot of hand waving about "it," and 5. "It" will be here very, very soon.
The same type of excuses littered Omega/NESARA, especially in the later years. Their "better" was larger deliveries/packies due to "rolls" (compound interest). $Billions instead of $millions. Ironic for a group that used the name of a proposed law that would do away with compound interest on debt.
Saturday, November 12, 2011
Dinar --- what its really all about! To Create and Transfer Wealth
It is very important to understand how something could be made from nothing. I heard a
famous money advisor on the radio this week saying the dinar was a scam, based on the
uncertainty of the Iraqi government and the current value of the dinar. Under normal
economic circumstances, this is ABSOLUTELY correct. Today, we have no normal
circumstance whatsoever, so all bets are off. The Euro is about to implode, the third
largest economy in Europe is collapsing, and the funds for illegal banking are being frozen.
The dinar was created to print wealth. If I give you a dollar for a loaf of bread, you now
understand that things similar to loaf of bread cost a dollar. That dollar is then traded to
other things for about the same value. If secretly, I have a printing press in my garage that
spits out dollars, I can spend those dollars for things also of a similar value. However, if I
print too many dollars on my press, the neighbors may grow weary of me buying all their
stuff. The demand for dollars drops. This is called inflation.
To combat inflation and create value out of nothing, all I have to do is get everyone to
use my dollars and not use anyone else's. The ultimate goal would be to get the world to
use my dollars. Then I could never spend too much, because there would be an
enormous demand for my dollars. This is precisely what the Federal Reserve has done
since 1913.
Over the last ten years, however, the world has reached its capacity for dollars. Those
holding them, must keep them tied up or the value would drop to near zero. So the plan
is to trade dollars amongst the privileged, while maintaining high demand if possible from
the economy. Thus, the economy must be kept dollar poor to keep the demand high. In
the backdrop, those with the press have printed quadrillions of dollars simply by making
entries on a computer screen, and funneled it into strategic bank accounts. Those
account owners know that releasing too much money at once will devalue their own
holdings and reveal who they are. It is a vicious circle.
Asset backed wealth is the antidote. It cannot be revalued easily because the supply is
limited and the demand is steady or growing. It cannot be created at will, but requires a
production and the economic engine to gather together. I predict that the current
economy will never be restored until the move to asset backed wealth is made.The
currency could be gold or silver or toenails or belly button lint. I don't care which. It just
can't be paper. Some of you need to take my Class 201 - Paper Mache Castles.
If you are still tracking me, there was a time when the current system really took off.
After the surrender of Japan took place on the USS Missouri in late 1945, a secret
agreement was made. The right to print the money in Japan was given over to a wing of
the Agency. The asset backed wealth was put into reserve, and eventually turned
over to an international holding bank. Prior to that in China, the reserve of gold was
shipped to America for "safe keeping" and bonds were printed in the Philippines as a
promise to repay. They did this to avoid Japan looting their wealth. These reserves of
asset backed wealth were looted by the banking cabal instead, as it was rising to power
and taking advantage of the effects of the war. There are always winners and losers.
When China's loan came due, China demanded the delivery of the gold. The western
bankers would not return it and my guess is that much of it was lost to private accounts
and reserves when they were supposed to be keeping it safe. They were given 50 years
to steal it, and so they did. China complained to the international court and won. Much of
the gold and paperwork concerning this repayment was kept in the twin towers....and now
we are into conspiracy. I will leave it at that... but no one can review the evidence that is
out there now and not determine that there is much more to 9/11 that what the news told us.
Nevertheless, these Asian reserves are vast and not limited to what was stolen over the
years. They are the collections from dynasties, hidden in huge reserves in Asia and
elsewhere. The Federal Reserve did not steal it all, but when there has been a release of
these assets, great attempts have been made to steal it. If you think about the $2~3 trillion
USD that China is holding today, you have to recognize the quandary that China is in. They
are sitting on vast assets, which they cannot move for fear of being stolen, and the money
they are holding is US dollars, which if they spend it now its value will collapse faster than
they can spend it. I don't think that is much of an exaggeration. Thus, enter the dinar. It is
merely a vehicle to get US dollars transferred from the holdings of the banking elite to the
main street. It is driven by international interests to jump start the economy and get liquidity
back in the hands of the people who will spend it to live.
You had to make this currency vehical cheap or else no normal person could afford to
invest much. It had to be available, which is why so much was shipped to the US and
elsewhere. You had to make the gain big, because giving a few dollars to anyone would
have no impact on fixing things. Then you had to force the banks to revalue it. The enemy
holds the control over that button. Why would they push the button willingly? They wouldn't.
Their toxic paper was made toxic on purpose, to be bought for a song and held long enough
to allow the default to take place. Foreclosures are up again in November, on purpose.
So the good guys, who used to be the bad guys according to our news and good guys,
are forcing the hand of the banks. It is getting serious and will eventually come to pass.
Hang in there. Keep in mind that it is now known by most governments around the world
that this banking control is intentional and deliberately focused on controlling assets and
existing wealth. This is why you see defectors now in European governments and the
inability of the elite to rectify the money problems. It is also why you saw people being
arrested for closing their accounts in the big banks during the occupy protests. It is why
you saw Obama levying a Christmas Tree tax, (they are desperate). It is why there is this
general disgust for America amongst the nations. It is not America, however, but those
who represent their own banking and money interests. The world is waking up. The house
of cards is falling down.
Strong international powers sent Interpol into the United States, starting in 2010. There
were like 7 plane loads of international police that came here to audit the Fed. This is not
our government being audited, but the private banking system that controls every
politician. They were deputized by the President, but I believe this was his hand being
forced. The executive order is #12425 if you care to research it. When the Fed was
recently audited, it was discovered that like $16 Trillion was given out to special interests
and foreign banks. When you understand that, you know that they do not wish to get the
economy going again and release all the debtors. Plain and simple. Conspiracy? No, not
really. It is about greed and control. If you on main street prosper, their machine collapses.
It has taken a lot of work to get you in this position without you knowing it.
This Executive Order above is the president being drug along kicking and screaming. The
release of these police in the US has uncovered much of the illegal banking practices, the
false flag attacks, the phony war stories, and so forth. Many of the trusted leaders are
going to jail soon and many Americans are going to feel quite foolish for being on the
wrong side. Doesn't matter which political affiliation you are. 2012 promises to be a
dramatic year, so believe half of what you see and none of what you hear. Hopefully you
do that already.
I still strongly maintain that the dinar will be revalued. It is not a matter of investment. Don't
call it that, because it is not. There is no investment that repays 3000 to 1 in normal
circumstances. The dinar was created for the sole purpose of transferring wealth and to
create a windfall tax for the US government. It was planned from the beginning. It will not
be decided by the Iraqi government and it will not depend on some law to be passed.
Those are all distractions. This will take place when the timing is right those who are
blocking it are out of the way.
It is close now, keep watch..Interpol is about to make some moves behind the scenes.
You will see these come out as scandals and offenses of the crazy kind. Don't get
tangled up in any of it. The agency has a dossier on everyone in Washington. It is
simply a matter of time.
gangsterbankster
"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them.
Patrick Henry
Posted by John MacHaffie at 3:54 AM
MacHaffie is once again bullish on bullsh*t.
Friday, November 11, 2011
Dinar Update - 11-11-11 PTR CALL
PTR CALL 11-11-11 with TONY and GARY
DebTarHeelGirl
EXCELLENT CALL – RECAP OF HIGHTLIGHTS
1- BANKS will be the last people to know about the RV so no need to call them YOU WILL KNOW FIRST.
2- GIANT Iraqi Contractor (name withheld) got a GOI signed contract with the with first payment due to this contractor on November 15th.
3- CONFIRMED USDollars being pulled out of the country now
4- 30,000 troops are gone now so sovereignty can be confessed
5- IN IRAQ - There was a vote taken yesterday about immunity and vote on final removal of 3 zeros, and its about the revalue of the dinar
6- There is a meeting going on right now ON US SOIL involving 9 countries involving what you and I care the most about and they are here to put an end to it whether it comes this afternoon tomorrow or Sunday that is what is most important
7- TONY STATES - I can almost, practically, with everything I know guarantee you the VND will be over .05.
8- TONY STATES - Can guarantee dinar will be significantly over 3 or 4 dollars to START with and remember it comes in first then changes higher later
9- TONY STATES – today could be a banner day – tomorrow or a MONDAY for sure one way or another - and I have told you a lot of info without giving you TOO much info here - but be excited – it’s all good
10- TONY STATES - This could be a special day to remember. Every day is, but this could be very special. IF the announcement of the RV is not made today I can guarantee you that final decisions are being made about this RIGHT NOW...
11- TONY STATES - after this RV stick around new ventures coming up, not as troublesome as this one.
12- TONY STATES - there was an agreement made last week where each country could and go a % above the rate as that is what their Country needed to recover and they would pay the people but would still get what was coming to them from Iraq to stimulate their own country economy.
13- Know those world leaders didn’t just fly in here to say happy Veterans Day to Obama – SOMETHING IS HAPPENING
[Details redacted 'cause they're too long and boring]
Posted by John MacHaffie at 1:33 PM
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Anonymous said...
There they go .. beating that dead rv horse again.
November 11, 2011 5:49 PM
There you go arguing facts again and disrupting all Jonnywg's deeply held little fantasies. Shame on you. Next thing you'll be telling him that there ain't gonna be no RV magic payday and just really ruin his day.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.
Well, I can't imagine that went over at all well with the dinaridjits, since it is exactly the opposite of what they want to hear and what the gurus have been touting.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.
notorial dissent wrote:There you go arguing facts again and disrupting all Jonnywg's deeply held little fantasies. Shame on you. Next thing you'll be telling him that there ain't gonna be no RV magic payday and just really ruin his day.
Wasn't jonnywg, it was gangsterbankster (or rather, the guy from gangsterbankster). But please, feel free to ruin both of their days.
texino wrote:The Dinar Guru clan is all abuzz today due to a CNBC report on the dinar issue-
notorial dissent wrote:Well, I can't imagine that went over at all well with the dinaridjits, since it is exactly the opposite of what they want to hear and what the gurus have been touting.
11-11-2011 Guru Freeway Bill If you did not think that we were close, if you watched the CNBC bogus report to basically turn your mind into much about this RV, you have just seen the beginning of the end of this journey! This was an abvious ploy to confuse us into believing that the dinar is not going to RV.... anyone with any sense could see that. The meetings that are going on will not be finished until probably tomorrow, but just like when they pick a pope, when they get it done, the signal will come out and all will be done and ready! We don't have many nights left without an rv.
11-12-2011 Guru TonyTNT it has been on TV 3 times in the last 24hrs [news about IQD]...the lady on TV...never said it was scam but said be careful where you get it from...she didn't know when it was going to happen, she also said don't throw it away...send it to me. it had to come out at some point in some way...good or bad news, just be in the news...a national broadcast twice...Thats exactly how I look at it...it wouldnt be there if they (gov) didnt want it.
It was both bogus AND significant. Bogus because it said it was a worthless investment, and significant because they said the words "Iraqi Dinar" which PROVES it's close. This was an abvious ploy to confuse dinaridjits, guild the lily so to speak!
