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Blackbeard wrote:I always thought that to be unconstitutional, a punishment must be both cruel and unusual.
A serious note:

The 8th Amendment also prohibits "excessive fines," which has been somewhat-legitimately argued in some tax cases, but has never succeeded to the best of my knowledge.
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CaptainKickback wrote:I repeat, what else would you do with all that blow? Not even Rick James at his worst couldn't claim that amount of Peruvian rock flake was for personal use.

Really, if you had 1.5 POUNDS of cocaine, what would you do with it? If you were of a criminal bent.....
I believe Cocaine was used medicinally as a topical anesthetic in the late 1800s. Perhaps he was planning on performing some kind of surgery.

Or, since it's also an appetite suppressant, perhaps he was inventing a radical new diet that would outclass Atkins on stupidity and death toll.
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I believe Cocaine was used medicinally as a topical anesthetic in the late 1800s. Perhaps he was planning on performing some kind of surgery.
I seem to recall that cocaine was used on Adolf Hitler by one of his doctors during World War II, and that at one point the doctor actually tried to kill Hitler with an overdose by applying an excessive amount of the substance in Hitler's nose while Hitler was asleep. My memory is that the incident was mentioned in John Toland's biography of Hitler. I'm not sure; I have the book at home.
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webhick wrote:
CaptainKickback wrote:I repeat, what else would you do with all that blow? Not even Rick James at his worst couldn't claim that amount of Peruvian rock flake was for personal use.

Really, if you had 1.5 POUNDS of cocaine, what would you do with it? If you were of a criminal bent.....
I believe Cocaine was used medicinally as a topical anesthetic in the late 1800s. Perhaps he was planning on performing some kind of surgery.

Or, since it's also an appetite suppressant, perhaps he was inventing a radical new diet that would outclass Atkins on stupidity and death toll.
Perhaps he's working on a new energy drink that will help you lose weight while getting you through the day. (Marketed heavily to truckers)
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Famspear wrote:I seem to recall that cocaine was used on Adolf Hitler by one of his doctors during World War II, and that at one point the doctor actually tried to kill Hitler with an overdose by applying an excessive amount of the substance in Hitler's nose while Hitler was asleep. My memory is that the incident was mentioned in John Toland's biography of Hitler. I'm not sure; I have the book at home.
It was Toland's book and you have the circumstances correct. After Hitler recovered from the overdose attempt (of which he was unaware happened) he actually thanked the doctor for making him feel better than he had on previous treatments. Hitler's other doctor, a Dr. Morrell, was actually killing Hitler through malpractice by prescribing a drug, nux vomica, from which strychnine is derived.

Since Hitler has been mentioned in this thread, I now propose that Godwin's Law be invoked.
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The Observer wrote:
It was Toland's book and you have the circumstances correct. After Hitler recovered from the overdose attempt (of which he was unaware happened) he actually thanked the doctor for making him feel better than he had on previous treatments. Hitler's other doctor, a Dr. Morrell, was actually killing Hitler through malpractice by prescribing a drug, nux vomica, from which strychnine is derived.

Since Hitler has been mentioned in this thread, I now propose that Godwin's Law be invoked.
Yeah, here's part of the Wikipedia article on Godwin's Law:
Godwin's Law is an adage that Mike Godwin formulated in 1990. The law states:

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.
I've always thought that Godwin's Law "proves too much" and maybe essentially proves almost nothing, for the reason that as *any* discussion grows longer (i.e., the longer and longer the discussion remains open), the probability of ANY comparison increases, and obviously approaches (or moves closer to) one. Indeed, the longer a discussion remains open, the more likely that a mention of every fact, concept or contention in the entire universe increases -- almost by definition.
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Since Hitler has been mentioned in this thread, I now propose that Godwin's Law be invoked.
The mere mention of Hitler does not allow for the invocation of Godwin's law. A comparison between your opponent and Hitler or nazis is required. Invoking Godwin's law upon the mere mention of Hitler sounds like stormtrooper tactics to me.
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Quixote wrote:
Since Hitler has been mentioned in this thread, I now propose that Godwin's Law be invoked.
The mere mention of Hitler does not allow for the invocation of Godwin's law. A comparison between your opponent and Hitler or nazis is required. Invoking Godwin's law upon the mere mention of Hitler sounds like stormtrooper tactics to me.
And? Trying to stifle my invocation of Godwin's is not unlike something Stalin and the KGB would do.
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Your passive aggressive ploys are straight out of the Jim Jones playbook.
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