From Thin Air - New Dinar RV Thread

[Pottapaug1938]

The dinaridjits acknowledge that three zeroes will be deleted from the local (Iraqi) currency... but they don't realize that three zeroes will also be deleted from their cherished hoards of Iragi dinars, and that they will turn from dinar millionaires to dinar thousandaires -- and then have to figure out how to dispose of their hoards other than in their fireplaces. I don't know whether to laugh or cry over this.

[Deep Knight]

12-19-2011 Guru Okie_Oil_Man IMHO, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, THE UNITED NATIONS HAS NOW 'PLACED SANCTIONS' ON IRAQ TO RV THEIR CURRENCY TO "FORCE THE RV". THE SANCTIONS ARE FORCING THE RV PRIOR TO JANUARY 1. IMHO, THE BACKWALL CONTINUES TO BE DEC. 23, 2011.

12-19-2011 Guru Okie_Oil_Man IT HAS TAKEN ME 8 YEARS TO FULLY UNDERSTAND HOW AND WHERE TO FOLLOW THE MONEY AND WHO IF ANY WAS PROFITING BY THE CONSTANT HOLD UP'S AND DELAY'S--WE ARE FOLLOWING THE MONEY AS IT'S VALUE IN THE ISX STOCKS THAT HAS PREVENTED THIS RV FROM OCCURING. THEY WANT TO BUY CHEAP AND SELL HIGH. THE IRAQI $ WAS BUYING INTO HE ISX INTERNALLY 'IN COUNTRY' AT A NOMINAL VALUE. THUS THE RV WAS NOT BEING ANNOUNCED 'ON PURPOSE' SO THAT "THE ISX INVESTORS COULD MAKE A PHENOMENAL RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT". THIS IS THE REASON UP TO NOW WHY WE HAVE MISSED CALCULATED THE ULTIMATE 'RV ACTIVATION DATE'. WE ARE NOW UNDERSTANDING HOW HISTORY IS BEING MADE. WE HAVE NOW PROGRESSED TO ECONOMICS 4.0 .

ISX = Iraqi Stock eXchange. Let me get this straight, Okie Oil Man sez that the Iraqi Dinar will increase in value by 338,000% but instead of cashing in at that unheard of rate these purported ISX investors are holding it up to make an even more “phenomenal return?” What exactly about holding up a currency revaluation would … Oh, never mind. You simply can’t make sense out of nonsense. We have now progressed to Fictionomics 4.0.

12-20-2011 Guru Jonnywg Today my friends is a special day. I have been told that there will be special announcements and considerations given regarding Iraq and the Chapter 7/ RV. We will be on top of it and report throughout the day.

12-20-2011 Guru Okie_Oil_Man WE MIS-INTERPRETED YESTERDAY'S INTEL. THESE UNITED NATIONS SANCTIONS WILL NOT BE IMPOSED UNTIL JANUARY 1, 2012, UNLESS THE IQD ACTIVATION HAS OCCURRED...WE STAND POSITIVE ON THE GROUND THAT WE SIMPLY ARE EXTREMELY CLOSE AND FINITE DETAILS ARE NOT 100% KNOWN TO ANYONE. WE STAND UNITED THAT THIS RV WILL HAPPEN SOON.

Strangely enough, none of the gurus have mentioned the real news coming from Iraq (yesterday’s arrest warrant issued by Iraqi authorities for the country's Sunni Muslim Vice-President Tareq al-Hashemi), I guess it couldn’t be spun into something RV positive.

[notorial dissent]

What I would like to know is where the Chapter 7 nonsense is coming from? Since it is something that is only available to individuals within the US, and has nothing to do with sovereign countries. Even for the dinaridjits, this is a bit of a stretch.

[Deep Knight]

What I would like to know is where the Chapter 7 nonsense is coming from? Since it is something that is only available to individuals within the US, and has nothing to do with sovereign countries. Even for the dinaridjits, this is a bit of a stretch.

Chapter 7 is, of course, the next installment of "Opening the Portals – A Two-Fisted Deep Knight Adventure," and it's all nonsense. As for it being a "bit of a stretch," this exciting hard-boiled detective thriller has stretched credulity beyond its normal bounds with every new chapter!

[notorial dissent]

You really should stay away from the poi, it's not good for you once it goes off, and you've quite obviously partaken of a bit too much.

[Gregg]

The original sanctions against Iraq in 1990 were issued under the guidelines of Article VII of the United Nations Charter. In the intervening years, it has gotten confused as little, and now Iraq is currently trying to reorganize as an individual under US bankruptcy laws.

[LaVidaRoja]

THAT makes sense!!! (I must have gotten hold of some of that bad poi, too)

[Deep Knight]

You really should stay away from the poi, it's not good for you once it goes off, and you've quite obviously partaken of a bit too much.

The poi you commercially get in Hawaii is fresh, but traditionally they left it for a while to ferment it (bacteria convert sugars to lactic acid, think yogurt to milk) to add a bit of tartness and flavor. No reports of what happens when it gets over-fermented, at least nothing about alcohol or inebriants. In all forms it's a potent natural laxative, so I supposed overindulgence could account for my story's rather altered reality...

My advice is if you visit Hawaii you should try the poi, then you'll be able to deride its texture and flavor with some authority.

More on topic - Chapter 7 of the Title 11 of the United States Code (Bankruptcy Code). There are 6 flavors of bankruptcy in our fair nation (NOT internationally, Iraqis and other foreigners use different terms to insult the American way of doing things).

Chapter 7: basic liquidation for individuals and businesses, aka straight bankruptcy
Chapter 9: municipal bankruptcy, a federal mechanism for the resolution of municipal debts
Chapter 11: rehabilitation or reorganisation, known as corporate bankruptcy, allows companies to continue to function while they follow debt repayment plans
Chapter 12: rehabilitation for family farmers and fishermen
Chapter 13: rehabilitation with a payment plan for individuals with a regular source of income
Chapter 15: ancillary and other international cases, helps foreign debtors to clear debts

If a country did have to declare bankruptcy, why would they chose the Chapter 7 analog? How exactly do you liquidate a country (auction off public holdings in front of county courthouses?)? And will these comments on poi cause a collapse in the market and hoards of farmers in Hawaii to declare chapter 12?

[notorial dissent]

Hardly, with the hoards of unwary and weary tourists to unload it on, even with the poi surplus, there should be no problems for the industry.

Which still begs the original question, if a country were to file Chap &, what court would have authority to hear it???

You really should get out more, or maybe less depending on circumstances, if this last excursion is any indication, maybe a lot less would be better for all concerned, like your wife, mental health professionals, neighbors, and cat, she is most disturbed with concern about her primary meal ticket.

[Deep Knight]

Thursday, December 22, 2011
IQD --- What is really behind the Iraq Dinar Revaluation
This is a well written piece on the IQD...
Emitte lucem et veritatem
Send out light and truth

Subject: good read
What else is behind the delay of the “RV”? and “What’s Really Behind the Iraqi Dinar Revaluation?”
One very significant thing that most who have purchased Iraqi Dinar have not been told, not considering, or factor into all the delays – it has been stated that there are at least 123, and as many as 153, other countries which are to have their currencies revalued at the same time as the Iraqi Dinar. Coordinating such an event, and working to have those countries agree to having their currencies manipulated for the sake of “world commerce” (and to help rejuvenate the world financial system), doesn’t happen “overnight”, and takes a significant amount of work, time, and cooperation, to complete such an event – which may be unprecedented in world history.That the “RV” hasn’t happened, seems to some who doubt the validity of Foreign Currency exchanging to support their thoughts, and cast doubt on those who have purchased Iraqi Dinar. Those who doubt the validity of this, and think it is a “scam”, have primarily looked for what might support their assumptions, and not obtained or “weighed” all the evidence. [It must be noted here that these negotiations have been ongoing for many years, at least back to the early 90’s. bez7]
What’s Really Behind this Dinar Revaluation? The Babylonian system intends to use this to infuse a huge amount of cash into its near-collapsed world-wide banking system. Essentially, they are monetizing Iraq’s natural resources–that is, they are printing up debt notes (thought to be money) to sell the Iraqi’s oil and natural gas that is yet in the ground.I believe that this was the plan of the bankers and oil companies from the beginning. Trick Saddam Hussein into attacking Kuwait so that there was an excuse to put Iraq under UN Sanctions. Then there would be a two-pronged attack on Iraq: the first by militarily taking over the country, and the second by financially taking over the country’s natural assets (oil and gas).The military phase is finished, for all practical purposes. Once “stability” is established, then Phase II can occur. “The Fed” has reportedly bought about $7 trillion Iraqi dinar at low, low prices–probably no more than $2-3 billion in all, and when the Iraqi Dinar is revalued, “the Fed” (or rather those who own the banks that own the Fed) has incentive to push for a high rate of exchange in order to increase its profit.Secondly, apparently, “the Fed” has “agreed” not to dump Iraq’s Dinar on Iraq all at once, but to use them to purchase oil at a predetermined low rate of about $40 per barrel (some have stated the price to the US is to be no more than $32 per barrel – but who or what is meant by “the US”?). With the price of oil now about $90 per barrel, this means that the Fed’s Iraqi Dinars–whatever the revalued rate turns out to be–will be worth at least double to them than what the Dinar will be for us in actual purchasing power.If the revaluation comes in at, say, $5/dinar, then the Fed’s $7 trillion worth of Dinar would be worth $35 trillion toward the purchase of Iraqi oil and gas. And,they will get to purchase Iraq’s natural resources at a low, low rate, essentially doubling the purchase power of their Dinar to the equivalent of $70 trillion or more.Hence, for a mere 2-3 billion dollars (of their own Federal Reserve Notes?), “the Fed” has by its plan, mortgaged Iraq’s entire wealth in the ground for the next century. The cost of securing these resources militarily cost them nothing, because the US Treasury paid the troops to do their work for them. The US Treasury paid for it by borrowing more “money” (Federal Reserve Notes) from “the Fed”, which was created for “the Fed” at a cost of nothing to them, and then loaned to the US Government – plus interest.I deplore this plot against Iraq, but, I understand that certain men have been doing such things for a long, long time, and America too, has been a victim of the same kind of takeover by monetary manipulation. Such is the nature of the beast of Babylon.Some may ask, then why we should participate in the plot by buying Iraqi Dinar? First, there are supposedly about 3 million American “little guys” who have only purchased about $1.6 trillion Iraqi Dinar. Most other nations (if not all) have laws prohibiting the sale of Iraqi Dinar within their countries. “The Fed” has succeeded in limiting these sales to Americans (by publicizing it is a scam, along with banks that do not want their employees to become millionaires and quit their jobs – which the bank trained them to do), not because they like us so much, but because when we “cash in” the revalued Iraqi dinars at the bank (exchange Dinar for bank credits or Federal Reserve Notes), the dinars make their way to the bank vaults of “the Fed”! “The Fed” pays the banks for the Dinar with Federal Reserve Notes or credits, but these Dinar are worth at least twice as much to “the Fed” in purchasing Iraqi oil and gas (which is then sold to whom…for what price?).So, those who own the banks that own “the Fed” are using us (Americans) to legitimize their plan to enhance their balance sheets.So much for the plans “of mice and men”. The real question is: What is God’s Divine Plan in all of this?When we look at the prophetic history of Babylon and see Iraq as a type of Babylon, the plan unfolds perfectly. When the kings of the East conquered Babylon in the days of Daniel, they first diverted the Euphrates River and then walked into the city on the dry river bed. They killed the king (Belshazzar), and the city fell to them intact.The drying up of the Euphrates is mentioned in Isaiah 44, as well as in Revelation 16, where it is pictured as part of the prophetic sequence of events. The Euphrates is the life blood of Babylon, and it prophetically represents the life blood of modern Mystery Babylon. That life blood is MONEY. It is cash flow – liquidity, is the river current (currency).When the Iraqi dinar revalues, it is prophetic of the diversion of the Euphrates before the fall of Babylon–i.e., the “type” of Babylon, which is Iraq today. We will have a short time in which to cash in/exchange dinars before “the city falls”. I do not suggest holding on to Iraqi Dinar while awaiting an increase in their value. Let “the Fed” do that, because their greed will be their downfall.Iraq‘s Prime Minister is Mr. Maliki. The Hebrew word for “king” is Melek. It appears to me that Maliki is prophetically representing the “king of Babylon,” or Belshazzar of old. It appears to me that Mr. Maliki will be overthrown at some point, more likely killed (assassinated), and that this will enflame the entire country in a civil war. The nation will split into three parts, as Revelation 16 indicates.Iraq is already politically and religiously divided into three parts, and it is presently taking “a lot of glue” to hold them together. I believe that an assassination would split the nation into three parts along those natural fault lines. When this happens, none of those three pieces will honor the present Dinar but will begin printing their own currencies.“The Fed” will then be caught with close to $9 trillion “confederate” Iraqi Dinar that will be as the worthless pieces of paper they once were. That, I believe, will cause the final collapse of Mystery Babylon - in the bigger picture. In other words, the “type” (Iraq) will be a regional picture of a much bigger collapse of the entire Babylonian worldwide system.This is my opinion and understanding of the prophecies in Scripture. As always, I may be wrong, but this is how I see it working out. The final outcome of the great conspiracy of “the Fed” against Iraq will backfire because they do not know that God is running a counter-conspiracy to catch them in their own trap.I believe that God is going to use this situation to help fund the Kingdom. There will be a short window of opportunity that may only last a few months or a year. So, if you find yourselves with Iraqi Dinar that are worth something, do not plan to hold on to it hoping it will increase in value or as you might if it were “precious metal”. Use it to help build the Kingdom and to prepare for the overthrow of “that great City”. Use the money to buy things of real value that will be useful in the times ahead, so that you will be part of the solution, rather than be destroyed along with what has been the problem.

Posted by John MacHaffie at 9:56 AM

6 comments:

Anonymous said...
awesome article
December 22, 2011 12:50 PM

Anonymous said...
.....part1/2....Iraq StarGate. Wars Were a Diversion and Income, for the Black Ops Space Program at NSA. Back in the 1920s the Iraq StarGate was uncovered in Baghdad. This StarGate was surrounded by the “Green Zone” during the Iraqi War, and was the whole purpose for the war. Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD’s) were an excuse. Having control of the StarGate, was the goal of the Bush Administration as well as Nazi Germany. This was a repeat of when Hitler and Nazi Germany went to Iraq to fight against the British, as both wanted control of the Iraq StarGate. Führer Directive No. 30, dealt with German intervention in support of Arab Nationalists in the Kingdom of Iraq. During the 1930s, representatives of Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy, attempted to gain favor with various Iraqi nationalists, and promised support against the British. On 2 May 1941, after tensions mounted on both sides, the British launched pre-emptive land strikes against Iraqi forces, and the Anglo-Iraqi War began. Rashid Ali immediately requested that the Germans make good on the earlier promises of assistance. The International Zone (formerly known as the Green Zone) is the heavily guarded diplomatic/government area of closed-off streets in central Baghdad, where US occupation authorities live and work. The Green Zone in the central city, includes the main palaces of former President Saddam Hussein, where the StarGate is located in the basement of the main palace. The area houses the civilian ruling authority run by the Americans and British, and the offices of major US consulting companies. Prescott Bush had furnished weapons to Nazi Germany, to arm them for World War II. ......(...)
The wars were all created, as a diversion. Running guns, drug smuggling and war profits, all had only one goal, and that was to run the Secret Space Program. .....
The CIA was originally set up by executive order under President Truman in 1947, and NSA grew out of that. Since then, the CIA has been running the United States Military and Black Ops Budget running the Secret Space Program. Anyplace the United States had a need for Military Intervention, the CIA is there with Black Ops running the Military. It would be impossible to audit the United States Military, simply because the Black Ops Budgets have never been written down. The Majestic Documents can be downloaded and printed online. ..... NSA Landed on the Moon in 1961, NASA 1969.....In 1938....American pilot Howard Hughes flew into the Arctic Circle looking for the portals into Inner Earth at the North Pole. He found it. He flew from Yakutsk Russia over the Pole to Fairbanks Alaska. He was funded by the same Wall Street Bankers who funded the Secret Space Program...
December 23, 2011 12:22 AM

Anonymous said...
....part2.........The Cold War was a diversion, not to hide Space Secrets from the Russians, but to hide the truth from the American People. Communism was a strategy for Russia to get the funds it needed to run their Secret Space Program. Hitler did the same thing in Germany. There were shuttle flights to the Moon and Mars weekly during the 1960s, and Laura Magdalene Eisenhower talks about The Mars Colony and the things she learned from her great-Grandfather, President Eisenhower.......
In the 2010 United States National Space Policy, the ISS was given additional roles of serving commercial, diplomatic, and educational purposes. President Obama is often in communication with these Astronauts, on Flat Screens like a video Skype Call, only different. He is working with the Altimarians and other positive benign Extraterrestrial Groups helping our Astronauts, with advanced technologies like nanites. These Extraterrestrials who are a part of the Galactic Federation are already working to bring new technologies to Earth, and wait for Self-Disclosure between our Governments and their Citizens. They do this out of compassion for the need of our Social Contracts being reported violated, by those who we have elected to represent us. They do this instead of a Messier Forced Contact. Senator Paul Wellstone was taken out because he planned on telling the Truth about some of these deceptions. ..... The Altimarians referred to here, are 12 scientists from the planet Altimar, who volunteered to come to Earth and assist with environmental remediation efforts here. They bring green technology. They apparently arrived on Earth sometime in January, 2008. ...... When we take the mature view of the problem, we realize that not only President Obama, but also Intel, including CIA, FBI, DoD, DIA, and NSA among others, the Old Guard at the Pentagon and the Military Industrial Complex, must all agree together it is time for Disclosure..... The Media has played a major role in keeping on the blindfold. Will you let it rest? by Elizabeth Trutwin © All Rights Reserved.

...(...) Further Update, Sept. 17, 2010:
The Altimarians have been very busy dealing with the environmental mess humans have made of Earth, and most currently with the enormous oil spill into the Gulf of Mexico caused by the Cabal multinational corporations British Petroleum, Halliburton, and Transocean and their reckless, cut-corners, unsafe drilling operations.With Commander Gene's son, Max now on board the Altimarian ship and involved in child care of the triplets to a substantial degree, Amanda is freed to work on environmental remediation projects on an almost full-time basis.I interpret the absence of news from the ship recently, to mean that the triplets are thriving unremarkably. As for their names, the Altimarians would have their own practice, and until conditions are reformed on Earth to where it would be safe to present the babies, there is no hurry to assign a Human name to them.
I'm sure that the Altimarians are aware that the thousands of lightworkers of good will who are aware of their presence on Earth, and of their environmental repair work here, are sending them love, gratitude, and protective energy/light.
Their humble service they take to be its own reward.To them I say, "Namaste".
in service to Source, Richard Boylan, Ph.D. <><><><><><><><>
[Edited and presented by:] Richard Boylan, Ph.D., LLC, Councillor
President, Star Kids Project, Ltd
December 23, 2011 12:43 AM

Anonymous said...
..part1/2... I took down Galactic Roundtable.com because I understood that regurgitating the news, does not help us. We have to keep evolving. Wikileaks and Murdoch showed us we should look away from that. Opening our eyes to the truth about the NSA Space Program, will get us where we are going. Ninety-nine percent of the news is written to control us and discussing it, binds us to an Illusion. It was necessary to talk about the news so we could all come to a level playing field, where we could come to this moment of understanding the dualistic nature of the Public Space Program called NASA (National Aeronautical Space Agency) and the Black Ops Space Program called NSA (National Security Agency). CIA (Central Intelligence Agency) DIA (Defense Intelligence Agency) DoD (Department of Defense) ACCM (Alternative or Compensatory Control Measures-A Navy version of Black Budget) and Skunk Works Division of Lockheed Martin’s advanced development projects. The Black world, the Classified world, has hidden the Extraterrestrial Technology with this private contractor who works on it, for them. They also make the bombs which are dropped on the Mideast, which kill farmers and mothers and babies in Afghanistan. That is one way to be paid with laundered money from Congress, who do not even realize they are funding Secret Space by paying Lockheed Martin for building bombs. This inside community is labyrinthian. That is only the tip of the iceberg. Folks have been inside for forty years, and they are dying off and they have had the spiritual awakening that they should come out with the truth. In fact, the Ones in deep deep secrecy who want to keep it that way, are the young scientists. When questioned they say the reason they do not want to reveal the Black Ops, is because they haven’t had enough years making money off their secret. Private control of Extraterrestrial Technology which travels us to the Moon and Mars, is so far away from the Public Contract THAT is the BIG ISSUE, not the dysfunctional decline of the US Government and the Gangster Banksters, and the failure of all of the European Union, China, Japan and Mideast Countries as well as their Economies. The decline of the nations and their banks, is a diversion to keep you away from the US Military, who is the police force for the international elites to have control over the Earth resources, oil, water and the StarGates.
December 23, 2011 12:58 AM

Anonymous said...
.......part2.......Controlling the Iraq, Yemen and Sudan StarGates.When the Elite felt they could control the StarGates, then they set out to do so. Why? When you control Earth’s StarGates, you have access to 100 other worlds. The StarGates are like an express train to other Planets. This is how they get to the Moon and Mars, in their Earth-made craft, through the wormholes accessed by entering the StarGates. Since 1947 and secondary to the Cold War Black Ops developed Classified, Secret, Top Secret, Top Secret Sensitive, Special Access Programs, Unacknowledged Special Access Waived Programs, and on and on and on. What does Waived mean? Waived from any oversight. In other words, on paper, it never existed. We cannot audit the United States Government or the Military including the Intelligence Agencies. So much of it is deep deep secret Black Ops, we no longer know what is real and what is not.
NESARA Law has made the reparations and configured the solutions which balance the scales. This is why Disclosure and Announcements go hand in hand. When Disclosure is announced, we will learn the truth about the Secret Space Program, the suspension of the Constitution, the firing of the Supreme Court, Congress and the dissolution of the banks and our government, military and secret intel, about the Secret Space Program and the StarGates.....(...) Sign the Petitions and put pressure on the Secret Government to Give Up the Truth Embargo. Give the media something to talk about through Action Politics of petitioning your government to Uphold their Public Contracts. What Can You Do?
You can also develop your Jedi Techniques and begin Teleporting on your own. You can learn to travel in Orbs, be Telepathic with your Teachers, and learn Jumping travel through the Cosmos. All it takes to master these things, is a pure heart and practice. The following is a sneak peek chapter from my newest book.
....(...) Advanced jedi techniques : secret step-by-step lessons for adept abilities/ by Elizabeth Trutwin – 1st ed. p.cm. I
1. Religious I Spirituality, ISBN 978-1-468-06253-3 .....
December 23, 2011 1:00 AM

[Deep Knight]

Friday, December 23, 2011
DINARS INTEL - THIS IS DEFINITELY HAPPENING OVERNIGHT INTO FRIDAY MORNING.
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 8:38 PM
Subject: RV INFORMATION
HI DINARIANS:

WELL, DAN OF PTR HAD A SHORT CALL EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON, AND NOW I AM ON THE PEOPLES INVESTED CALL WITH FRISH AND WANG DANG.

THEY HAVE STATED THAT AS SOON AS MALIKI ANNOUNCES THAT HE HAS SIGNED A POWER SHARING AGREEMENT WITH THE GOI AND ALAWI, ETC. THAT THE RV CAN BECOME OFFICIAL. WELL, A CALLER JUST CAME ON THAT CALL AND SAID THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND ANNOUNCED. ALSO, IN JUST CHECKING WITH THE MIG WEBSITE CHATROOM, SOMEONE IN THERE POSTED THAT THE POWER SHARING AGREEMTN (ERBIL AGREEMENT) HAS BEEN ANNOUCED. SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THINGS ARE HAPPENING.

HERE IS WHY THEY ARE SAYING THINGS COMING TOGETHER QUICKLY: GENERAL PATREAUS, WESLEY CLARK, JOE BIDEN, (I THINK) AND I BELIEVE ONE OTHER OF OUR DIPLOMATS WERE SENT TO IRAQ TO TELL MALIKI TO EITHER GET THE JOB DONE (NOW) OR ELSE !!!! NO ONE SAID WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, BUT THE FEELING IS THAT PATREAUS DID NOT GO OVER THERE FOR A TEA PARTY. I GUESS HE GRABBED MALIKI BY THE SCRUFF OF HIS NECK AND TOLD HIM LIKE IT IS GOING TO BE. NO CIVIL WAR, YOU WILL HAVE POWER SHARING, AND YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE A DICTATOR. IF YOU DON'T SIGN ALL THE PAPERS NOW AND PUSH THE RV BUTTON, HERE IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO YOU. (THAT IN A NUTSHELL IS ABOUT HOW THEY ARE SAYING IT MAY GAVE GONE DOWN.). MAKES SENSE TO ME.

ALSO, ABOUT AN HOUR AGO ON THE MTT CALL A GUY CAME ON THERE WHO SAID HE TALKED TO TWO VERY HIGH RANKING MILITARY UP IN THE PENTAGON OR SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT AND THEY SAID THIS IS DEFINITELY HAPPENING OVERNIGHT INTO FRIDAY MORNING.

SO, THERE YOU HAVE THE RUMORS UP TO DATE AND WE CAN ONLY HOPE THAT IT IS GOING DOWN AND BY TOMORROW WE WILL ALL BE WEALTHY BEYOND OUR WILDEST DREAMS.

ART

Posted by John MacHaffie at 5:08 AM

2 comments:

Anonymous said...
MERRY CHRISTMAS! BLESSING TO ALL
December 23, 2011 11:26 AM

Anonymous said...
Oakie and all the other gurus have been called out on their BS predictions on the Dinar RV. Check out DinarVets.
December 23, 2011 11:14 PM



Saturday, December 24, 2011
Iraqi Dinar, currently/recently being said: ...
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Iraqi Dinar, currently/recently being said: ...
Posted By: hobie [Send E-Mail]
Date: Saturday, 24-Dec-2011 03:50:08


Hi, Folks -
From dinarguru.com, exact time unknown:
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12-23-2011 Guru Jonnywg I have verification from a print screen that the Kuwait rate is now a live. Expect the rest of the rates to drop in. I will be back later for confirmation. Our finance expert is headed to the bank to watch the currency screen.

Posted by John MacHaffie at 2:41 AM

[notorial dissent]

Well, let's see, Sat, sound of crickets chirping, nothing else, IQD still worth almost less than nothing, gurus 0 for all.

Where do they get this 167 countries going to RV nonsense, that is even sillier than the IQD all of a sudden going to be worth something.

And the comedy just keeps on flowing. Downhill!!!!

[Gregg]

Well, there is some left handed reality to the "112 currencies RV" stuff. Most currencies can be traded on FOREX exchanges and since the price fluctuates, well, they RV every day, most of them several times a day and of course, the most traded RV virtually every second.

[notorial dissent]

Well, there is some left handed reality to the "112 currencies RV" stuff. Most currencies can be traded on FOREX exchanges and since the price fluctuates, well, they RV every day, most of them several times a day and of course, the most traded RV virtually every second.

I supposed you could look at it that way, particularly if you squint real hard and close one eye while jumping up and down all the while saying "RV today, RV today", and always assuming that any of the dinaridjits actually know what the FOREX is or what they are talking about when they are going on about the "screens", which I don't for a second.

They don't get that what is listed on the FOREX is a commodity, not money, and that it trades in bulk just like any other commodity, and has to have something like a value, or at least a desirability, in order to be traded, which the IQD doesn't, and won't. Considering that they think a currency that has virtually NO value behind, and hasn't for a good long time, is suddenly going to appreciate 3000 times, I think it is now, at the wave of a pen are beyond delusional, and the fact that they think another 167 or however many currencies are going to do the same thing over night and suddenly solve the world's economic plight is, at this point beyond both reality and delusional. This is the same mindset that says that if you are short of money, you just print more, which is in essence what they are talking about. Zimbabwe being the perfect modern example here.

[Gregg]

Actually, I think their position is more closely aligned with "I can't be out of money, I still have checks", but yes, your point is well taken.

I also cannot figure out their desire to compare it to the value of other currencies, such as the Kuwaiti Dinar, without taking any notice of the fact that the number of dinar in circulation is relevant to the comparison. The Iraqi M2 went from 27 trillion to right around 40 trillion this year, the Kuwaiti M2 was 27.5 Billion...and if anyone tries to point this out, the flat earth club shouts them down. I'd take investment advice from Chili Dog before these geniuses.

[notorial dissent]

I think mathematically challenged is about the kindest thing I can say about this bunch. Certainly reality challenged is a base line.

[Deep Knight]

MacHaffie did a flurry of New Year's Eve Eve postings, ending with this one. About that RV, it's done and about to be announced! This time for real!

Friday, December 30, 2011
DINAR INTEL - PTR CALL 12-30-11
TONY AND DAN Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 5:52 PM
Notes by DebTarHeelGirl

SYNOPSIS:
DAN STATES this is DONE AND ABOUT TO BE ANNOUNCED before the first of January and it shows its about to be announced all over the world TONY STATES - – today is our day is what the banking system says and yesterday they went as far to say after 5pm today there Is a major announcement to happen NOT TODAY BUT TOMORROW – our target time for the RV is to be announced after5pm and could come before this meeting/announcement TONY STATES - ITS TRULY here folks - TRILLIIONS of Dollars were transferred around the globe and folks know that –how did that happen> Whether it’s in 30 mins in 24-48 hours its coming up – ITS OUR TURN….TONY STATES - Anyway, if we don't see something today in the next 3 hours. I'm telling you banks went as far as having people bring their dinar to the banks. That's how close it is…TONY STATES - RATE= it is to the GBP form several countries confirming this you will LOVE THE NUBMERS and it is above $3.00 way above and you will see it soon…NOTE: some banks will give you 100% as soon as you cash in – some will not – one piece of info –DO NOT FORGET about the cheese- but there may be a time factor so if you can’t get to the bank really really quick you want to go and lock in rate one of the exchange places and LOCK THIS IN – so if it’s a mind blowing rate LOCK THIS IN if you can’t get to the bank FAST…TONY STATES - THERE IS NO STOPPING THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE – could delay but this has gotten so big it can’t be stopped…

There’s more, actually 5 ½ pages more, but it’s mostly summed up in DebTarHeelGirl’s synopsis. Before the first of the year. Or maybe Monday. The long and boring complete, badly-punctuated transcription is long and boring, but I’ll include a couple of bits to give you the flavor.

...and the articles and behind the scene info we believe this is DONE AND ABOUT TO BE ANNOUNCED before the first of January and it shows its about to be announced all over the world – for the last year I do nto pump NO one up – this is truly about to pop we are about to see it – that’s the focus of this call… we are so close its about to be announced – its so far now into the revaluation they cannot go backwards anymore…

Once its there its there. There is some good information. Want everyone to have a good weekend, and a GREAT day, or a FANTASTIC day tomorrow…

...this will show up and SO DO NOT LISTEN to ignorant folks on sites that are putting STUFF OUT…..I hear some of this stuff on the weekends and say dang it! Here comes this guy into the chat room, uneducated, talking to people, and you get confused. I don't blame you. 2 years of 24/7 and many people smarter than me lets me help you understand it. I hope we've come to the point where you can trust us a little bit…

Not easy No one said it would be easy. That's just real life, that's how it happens. Sorry it didn't go and 5 yesterday or 6 a.m. this morning like it was scheduled too. That's just life, we have to deal with it… The big thing is, we know its going happen, and every time we get that much closer we know it’s going to happen. We are at the point where it has to end. This weekend, whether today, tomorrow, Monday morning. I think it’s going be today. Everyone was so hyped up yesterday. We went from a day to the next 5 hours. We were that close…Enjoy your day, its Friday, its a good day to get rich. Let's hope we do!

Posted by John MacHaffie at 6:41 PM 0 comments

[Deep Knight]

The news from Tony & Dan resonated around the Dinaridjit world - today's Dinar Guru Doodoo. As posted, most recent on top.

12-30-2011 Guru Eagle Has Landed street vendors and certain banks are cashing folks out at a discounted rate. They are playing the hedge game knowing that the rate will be higher than what they are paying. A US soldier cashed in 6 million IQD with a street vendor and now has over $20 million USD in a US bank account.

12-30-2011 Guru Purplehelmet I can tell you for a fact - EVERYTHING is done! I do have from many good sources that people HAVE been cashed out...cashing out - NOT vouchers! Obviously, these are people with more than just a few mil dinar! [question] can you tell us if you have seen the deposit receipts for the ones that have cashed out? [answer] Yes - full documentation! So with that being said...YES it is true that our time is very very close. Does that mean tonight tomorrow - not sure BUT we really are that close! Before the 31st? Hard to say - I know we are right there! I just dont know the exact day we will see it...the rate is VERY good too! we will cash out as soon as they decide it is our time! Which is soon!

12-30-2011 Guru Jonnywg Well the RV is on it's way and for all intents and purposes the GOI is COMPLETED but not announced. The delay is an all party agreement and the reason is not available...we feel the latest could be tomorrow but fully expect it today...had a report from HOUSEHOLD BANK IN PANAMA...AND ROYAL BANK N CANADA...THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE CASHING IN THIS AFTERNOON BUT THERE IS NOT A RELEASE ON THE FUNDS...ALL IS READY AND WE NEED THE GOI TO BE DECLARED...the last rate we heard was $5...to the GBP BUT WHO KNOWS...THAT IS IT....THIS WILL BE HISTORIC.

12-30-11 Guru Med IF YOU ARE COUNTING ON THIS FOR SPECIFIC DATE TO SAVE YOUR LIFE, DONT COUNT ON THAT. IT IS JUST FOLLOWING THE PROCESS OBVIOUSLY NOT ONE WRITTEN IN STONE MORE LIKE MUDDY WATER, LOL

12-30-2011 Guru Foghorn I just got done skyping with my brother...he has been speaking to other bank officals around the country, they are all under the same belief that we should see the IQD change rate at any moment and certainly brefore the new year!!12-30-2011 Guru Freeway Bill I feel we are...Regardless of what intel you hear between now and then, we are to be finished with this between right this minute and Saturday, period.

12-30-2011 Guru Doc There have been a few interesting developments this week including the CBI apparently stepping up its buying of dinar. We consider this positive since we know the money supply needs to be reduced to RV at higher rates. Unfortunately Parliament did not return early as was suggested they may. The agenda for Jan 3 (their return) will include the 2012 budget but not the HCl/currency law. We can only speculate when these issues will be addressed and therefore maintain our position the earliest the RV will occur is mid January. Hopefully these issues will be resolved quicker. For now ignore the rumors of other country cash-ins. These are nothing but unsubstantiated rumors. We report, you decide and have a great New Year!

12-30-2011 Guru Poppy3 got another call...saying...all sources of information is saying that the push is on to complete and announce the rv before the end of jan 1 and that it can happen at any time...they need to get it finished because the budget is based on the rv'ed value and it is to open on the 1st, so it can happen.

12-30-2011 Guru TerryK MY BANKER BUDDY TOLD ME YESTERDAY AFTERNOON LATE THAT WITHIN 24 HOURS WE WOULD SEE CHANGES IN THE RATE. I WENT AND SAW HIM AND HE SHOWED ME THE EMAIL HE GO AND SURE AS SAM ADAMS MAKES BEER THESE DAYS, IT WAS IN A MEMO. I'M TELLING YOU ALL IT'S HERE OR RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.

[Deep Knight]

Saturday, December 31, 2011
Iraqi Dinar, recently being said: ...
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Posted By: hobie [Send E-Mail]
Date: Saturday, 31-Dec-2011 03:32:56


Hi, Folks -
From dinarguru.com:
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12-30-2011 Guru Freeway Bill If this thing makes it through the night I am going to be surprised...Just hold on, it may take longer but I doubt it!!! I think we need to be prepared for seeing it by morning, but willing to not get freaked out if we have to wait....THIS IS A GO! IT IS HAPPENING! So, whether we get it tonight or Tuesday, folks, we are at the finish line.

12-30-2011 Guru Okie_Oil_Man STILL AWAITING THE INEVITABLE...NEW BUDGET STARTS JAN 1...SHOULD HAVE THE NEW RATE EMBEDDED IN IT...AM GETTING MANY REPORTS BUT NONE VERIFIED YET REGARDING THE R/V...WHEN I HAVE PROOF I WILL PRESENT IT.

12-30-2011 Guru Historian many countries have their fiscal YE on Dec 31. Also, in January the global financial institutions reconcile their accounts from the previous year. So since many are not doing so well, they might want to see an RV before that happens.

Posted by John MacHaffie at 3:45 AM

I believe that "If this thing makes it through the night" would be a good lyric for a country song...

Thursday, December 29, 2011
The IQD will RV and it will do so before the end of 2011 because ---

12-29-2011 DocDinar: In my opinion, the IQD will RV and it will do so before the end of 2011, no later than mid January 2012. It will RV because

(1) Iraq says it will have the most valuable currency in the Middle East
(2) Iraq’s currency should reflect its natural wealth in oil, gas, minerals, diamonds, etc.
(3) Iraq cannot continue to operate with a worthless currency
(4) Iraq may not enter the WTO without an internationally tradable currency
(5) Iraq may not be released from Chapter 7 without an RV
(6) Iraq is spending enormous sums of money on U.S. jets, weapons, oil contracts, etc.
(7) Public Iraqi bank accounts are overdrawn and require an RV
(8) The RV is essential to meet the Iraqi 2012 budget
(9) The RV is essential to combat inflation in Iraq
(10) The Euro (global) financial crisis requires the RV
(11) The U.S. said the Iraq war would not cost anything financially and the U.S. stands to take in about $60 billion over the next several years from the RV, and
(12) In addition to the U.S., many world governments own trillions of dinars and are depending on the RV to shore up their bottom lines
(13) Iraq does not want to lose OPEC membership
(13) As Christine Lagarde of the IMF stated, "This partnership has facilitated substantial debt relief and helped achieve macroeconomic stability, including a strong dinar, low inflation, and a resumption of economic growth."
(14) Iraq does not want to have wasted ten years of hard work, lose all power, and return to full sanctions for 3 years.

So, be encouraged; this long journey is just about to end and an exciting new beginning for our lives is about to start.

To Our Success,
Jeff (Duckyboy)

Posted by John MacHaffie at 2:11 PM

4 comments:

Anonymous said...
Hi John
can you verify if the RV is waiting for Basil III compliance by Iraq and others??? also my thoughts on a LOP ..they open themselves to fraud charges because they sold us $$ based on a potential of rv at a rate that would make them the holders of a valuable currency. IMOA
December 29, 2011 5:12 PM

Anonymous said...
Sorry Duckyboy, but none of your 14 points have any bearing on a Dinar RV. The elite are going to bring down all Middle Eastern countries and take them back to camel jockey days. The U.S. and the elite are in control of Iraq. Just wait until your date of mid January comes and goes as have all the other dates claiming a RV. Maybe you should listen to Lindsey Williams to get the real story.
December 29, 2011 6:21 PM

Anonymous said...
Interesting how they call this stuff "intelligence" when it is always wrong. It reminds me of the intelligence behind the WMD. The only ones less intelligent that those that spread this are the ones that believe it. It's been "tomorrow" for several years!
December 29, 2011 8:13 PM

Hobgoblin238 said...
And just what does Lindsey Williams say?
December 29, 2011 11:35 PM

A year ago Lindsey Williams said that the US Dollar would collapse before last fall (you might remember this from October, made all the papers).

[notorial dissent]

Well, gee, all those great predictions and pronouncements all gone to waste, maybe they can recycle them for the gullible in the coming year, it seems to have worked the last few years so far.