Irwin Schiff, Political Prisoner?
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Irwin Schiff, Political Prisoner?
At least someone thinks so!
http://www.freeirwinschiff.org/
According to a WHOIS search at Network Solutions, the domain is owned by "daniel behrman" (All lower case, if that matters) of San Francisco, CA.
http://www.freeirwinschiff.org/
According to a WHOIS search at Network Solutions, the domain is owned by "daniel behrman" (All lower case, if that matters) of San Francisco, CA.
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Re: Irwin Schiff, Political Prisoner?
The name sounds familiar but all I can find for now is this:
http://te-in.facebook.com/abolishtheirs ... omments=40
http://te-in.facebook.com/abolishtheirs ... omments=40
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Re: Irwin Schiff, Political Prisoner?
They're selling tshirts. I think that's the point.
Hmm, i wonder if i could make some money from Ed and Elaine.
How about a set of paw prints behind a leashed dog. And another showing said dog lifting a leg at a faceless figure in a black suit. And a house being teargassed with the first casualty being Justice.
Let's see, i think Cafepress takes $12 off the top, so if i sell them for $40 each, that's $28 profit, times the number of suckers, er, true believers.
Then we can also order up some "Sovereign Ground" coffee mugs.
And a combo: one large messenger bag, a copy of the Constitution with annotations, a bunch of quotes from the Bible, founders, Black's, etc. A smaller zipper bag, would be just right for holding a gun. Pack it up and there's still room for a sack lunch and a change of underwear. The eye catching logo tells everyone you've got Your Liberty Toolkit, with everything you need to hold off the marxatanic thugs when they come for you-- just $75!
Hmm, i wonder if i could make some money from Ed and Elaine.
How about a set of paw prints behind a leashed dog. And another showing said dog lifting a leg at a faceless figure in a black suit. And a house being teargassed with the first casualty being Justice.
Let's see, i think Cafepress takes $12 off the top, so if i sell them for $40 each, that's $28 profit, times the number of suckers, er, true believers.
Then we can also order up some "Sovereign Ground" coffee mugs.
And a combo: one large messenger bag, a copy of the Constitution with annotations, a bunch of quotes from the Bible, founders, Black's, etc. A smaller zipper bag, would be just right for holding a gun. Pack it up and there's still room for a sack lunch and a change of underwear. The eye catching logo tells everyone you've got Your Liberty Toolkit, with everything you need to hold off the marxatanic thugs when they come for you-- just $75!
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Re: Irwin Schiff, Political Prisoner?
This actually raises some interesting possibilities. As idiotic as I think the tax and sovereign nuts are, how about starting a line of items geared toward these folks - and not the illegal type of items they sell.
T-shirts that say "I bought this shirt with lawful money."
Calendars that have the great sovereign heros as pictures for each month
Coffee Mugs that say - "Sovereigns are hot - just like this coffee"
Floor mats that say "Welcome - I'm a Freeman on the Land"
I think I could make a business out of this
T-shirts that say "I bought this shirt with lawful money."
Calendars that have the great sovereign heros as pictures for each month
Coffee Mugs that say - "Sovereigns are hot - just like this coffee"
Floor mats that say "Welcome - I'm a Freeman on the Land"
I think I could make a business out of this
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Re: Irwin Schiff, Political Prisoner?
Some have!ashlynne39 wrote:I think I could make a business out of this
http://www.cafepress.com/+fourth_amendm ... ,491857398
http://www.cafepress.com/+say_no_to_ran ... g,27602818
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Re: Irwin Schiff, Political Prisoner?
Considering that Schiff will be 88 years old when he's released in 2016, if he lives that long, and still has multi-million dollar judgements pending against him...
Maybe they're collecting money for his funeral.
Maybe they're collecting money for his funeral.
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Re: Irwin Schiff, Political Prisoner?
I'm pretty sure that Peter has helped his dad transfer at least some financial assets where they might theoretically be out of reach of the authorities. Even if Irwin does end up penniless, Peter has managed to make some decent money doling out bad financial advice.Kestrel wrote: Maybe they're collecting money for his funeral.
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Re: Irwin Schiff, Political Prisoner?
How about flat out stealing CTC merchandise images from Hendrickson, and see if he enforces his federal coryright/trademark privilege.
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Re: Irwin Schiff, Political Prisoner?
I think my suggestions are much catchier. I think I'm going to have to look into this. If I can market to the losthorizons and saving suitors crowd I've got a built in audience. The problem is that I don't think those guys make enough money to keep me in business and what they do make is probably being levied by the IRS.Unidyne wrote:Some have!ashlynne39 wrote:I think I could make a business out of this
http://www.cafepress.com/+fourth_amendm ... ,491857398
http://www.cafepress.com/+say_no_to_ran ... g,27602818
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Re: Irwin Schiff, Political Prisoner?
Gregg wrote:How about flat out stealing CTC merchandise images from Hendrickson, and see if he enforces his federal coryright/trademark privilege.
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Re: Irwin Schiff, Political Prisoner?
Do you think Hendrickson has copywrited his own image? You see I'm thinking of adding him to my great heroes calendar. I need some suggestions on who to add. So far I've got:Gregg wrote:How about flat out stealing CTC merchandise images from Hendrickson, and see if he enforces his federal coryright/trademark privilege.
Peter Hendrickson
Ed and Elaine Brown
Irwin Schiff
I'd add David Merrill Van Pelt but I don't have a picture of him. I know I'm missing alot of others. Maybe the guy out of Alaska that just had his trial.
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Re: Irwin Schiff, Political Prisoner?
I sure hope this won't be one of them there nude pictorial-type calendars......ashlynne39 wrote:Do you think Hendrickson has copywrited his own image? You see I'm thinking of adding him to my great heroes calendar. I need some suggestions on who to add. So far I've got:
Peter Hendrickson
Ed and Elaine Brown
Irwin Schiff
I'd add David Merrill Van Pelt but I don't have a picture of him. I know I'm missing alot of others. Maybe the guy out of Alaska that just had his trial.
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Re: Irwin Schiff, Political Prisoner?
If it ends up heading in that direction, might I recommend Gene Chapman?Famspear wrote: I sure hope this won't be one of them there nude pictorial-type calendars......
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Re: Irwin Schiff, Political Prisoner?
Gene Chapman is still claiming to derive ideas from Gandhi, albeit he seems to have stopped claiming to be the man himself.
He has 2 new journals:
http://thegandhianeconomist.blogspot.com/ is where he foists all his theories about money and taxes on his idol.
http://mahatmagandhigloballibrary.blogspot.com/ is an attempt to get the whole world to read stuff he considers important, and presumably, draw the same conclusions he did.
He also spends time over at http://www.gandhitopia.org/, which seems to be a legitimate discussion forum that tolerates nutcases.
In each place he has posted a nice picture of himself in a crisp white robe.
To his credit he has apparently gone back to college, albeit, his own internal formulations seem to drown out his teachers' voices sometimes. Like when he told an economics teacher that he had decided that the excesses of big business should be called "corporate marxism".
He also claims to be volunteering with the Innocence Project. Although that is with mixed motives as he hopes to learn how to free Schiff.
And he's actually considred buying a spinning wheel and making his robes from scratch, as Gandhi did.
And yes, he's still a truck driver.
I wonder what happened to "thanks for blogging", I can't even remember his name anymore.
He has 2 new journals:
http://thegandhianeconomist.blogspot.com/ is where he foists all his theories about money and taxes on his idol.
http://mahatmagandhigloballibrary.blogspot.com/ is an attempt to get the whole world to read stuff he considers important, and presumably, draw the same conclusions he did.
He also spends time over at http://www.gandhitopia.org/, which seems to be a legitimate discussion forum that tolerates nutcases.
In each place he has posted a nice picture of himself in a crisp white robe.
To his credit he has apparently gone back to college, albeit, his own internal formulations seem to drown out his teachers' voices sometimes. Like when he told an economics teacher that he had decided that the excesses of big business should be called "corporate marxism".
He also claims to be volunteering with the Innocence Project. Although that is with mixed motives as he hopes to learn how to free Schiff.
And he's actually considred buying a spinning wheel and making his robes from scratch, as Gandhi did.
And yes, he's still a truck driver.
I wonder what happened to "thanks for blogging", I can't even remember his name anymore.
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Re: Irwin Schiff, Political Prisoner?
Famspear wrote:I sure hope this won't be one of them there nude pictorial-type calendars......ashlynne39 wrote:Do you think Hendrickson has copywrited his own image? You see I'm thinking of adding him to my great heroes calendar. I need some suggestions on who to add. So far I've got:
Peter Hendrickson
Ed and Elaine Brown
Irwin Schiff
I'd add David Merrill Van Pelt but I don't have a picture of him. I know I'm missing alot of others. Maybe the guy out of Alaska that just had his trial.
I don't think I could stomach a nude pictorial calendar considering some of the people I'm anticipating being in the calendar. None of them are particularly attractive.
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Re: Irwin Schiff, Political Prisoner?
It's worse than that. He has actually melded Ghandi, Nelson Mandela and Schiff into some sort of tax protester unholy Trinity. Where he gets the idea that Schiff is the moral equivalent of Ghandi or Mandela is beyond me.grixit wrote:http://thegandhianeconomist.blogspot.com/ is where he foists all his theories about money and taxes on his idol.
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Re: Irwin Schiff, Political Prisoner?
The same dark, dank place where he gets all of his other revelations?????
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Re: Irwin Schiff, Political Prisoner?
BTW: I can't find the words to a filk i wrote about Chapman a few years ago.
I can only remember the ending:
Only someone so deluded that he thinks he's Gandhi's avatar
Could become the very model of a modern TP superstar
Does anyone happen to have it?
I can only remember the ending:
Only someone so deluded that he thinks he's Gandhi's avatar
Could become the very model of a modern TP superstar
Does anyone happen to have it?
Three cheers for the Lesser Evil!
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Re: Irwin Schiff, Political Prisoner?
Did y'all know that Gene Chapman ran for president in 2008? I had never heard of him so did a little google search and came across this site genechapman.blogspot.com
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Re: Irwin Schiff, Political Prisoner?
It was before your time, ashlynne, but a certain ElfNinosMom kept us (too) well informed . . .
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