Stan Casad / Kevin Wheeler

[mike traynor]

What is your experience with these two? I have a friend who has tried to get deals done with them for years and it is nothing but delay and double talk. Always another signature to get. Always a banker who needs to fly somewhere. Always waiting on INTERPOL. Always waiting on compliance.

Then when all that gets done, it starts over. Well, we have solved the problems, but our paperwork is old and we need a new proof of funds. Then you have to get a signature. Then a banker has to fly somewhere. Then compliance needs new signatures. Then you get everything.

And then the proof of funds is too old, so you have to start again.

It never stops.

What a joke.

[Arthur Rubin]

I have no personal experience with them, but it seems to me that anyone waiting for INTERPOL probably has other problems. Normally, financial background checks, if needed, are done through local police agencies, who will contact INTERPOL if they think it needed.

Comments from the experts?

[rogfulton]

As far as I know, only law enforcement agencies can contact INTERPOL and only for Official Business - is a person wanted internationally, is this document or vehicle reported stolen in another country, etc.

The INTERPOL check suggested by Mike Traynor is expressly not allowed.

I work for the Texas Department of Public Safety (civilian).

BTW Mike, we probably aren't going to do your due diligence for you regarding these two. Research them yourself on the Intar-webs.

[notorial dissent]

Mike, welcome to Quatloos.

You have not said what kind of deals your "friends" were trying to do with this pair, or what if any funds have changed hands during this quadrille.

To be blunt, this acts like, smells like, and probably is a scam of some sort, usually upfront fee fraud comes immediately to mind with something like this, but it could be a little more complicated than that, but it comes back to scam, with your "friends" being the scamees.

A little hint, there is NO reason for INTERPOL to be involved in this and they DONOT work with the public, they are an inter police networking agency, so this is NOT a good sign. If INTERPOL is involved it is a good time to be elsewhere.

No legitimate businessman does business in this fashion. They have their ducks in a row and do things by the numbers or they are not in business very long.

[Olsenfin]

Why in the world would anyone want, repeatedly, to do deals with someone who behaves like that? Wouldn't such behavior be a pretty good indicator that this is someone whom you DO NOT want to deal with?

[mike traynor]

Yes I agree. I have advised my friends that a professional will have his ducks in a row up front and will not have to continually add additional steps as a transaction goes along. It is just a tactic to stall. I have never believed in these programs anyway, and these two clowns could not get out of a clown car at a circus if they were the only two inside.

[mike traynor]

rogfulton

I have searched them and it is sparse. However, the few people that have heard about them tell me that they are "pretenders". In Texas you say "big hat, no cattle".

[mike traynor]

My client has been at this for 6 months. Every week it is a new excuse . . . somebody at the bank forgot a signature, signatures are old and have to be redone, wrong banker signed the paper, etc. Same old story. Keep an eye out for these guys.

[notorial dissent]

At this point, it should be a case of run, don't walk, to your local DA and state AG, and file charges, this is fraud, and should be reported as such, the likelihood of the victims ever seeing any of their money back decreases with each passing hour. If you have any kind of fiduciary relationship with these people, you are obligated to take these actions.

[mike traynor]

I have advised my client to quit returning their calls. He keeps holding out hope that he will land the big one. I have told the client I no longer want to represent him. I sent him a 'final invoice' for my legal services. I hope he will follow my advice.

[notorial dissent]

Better late than never, but your client still had best have a dialogue with local law enforcement as well, and at the very least should look to less expensive ways of throwing his money away.

[Texas]

It is very funny reading all of the posts, I've known Stan Casad since grade school and I talk to him a couple times per week. Stan has only had Hundreds of clients that said they had money to do business and didn't. Hundreds of clients that said they had paper for sale and didn't. Also numbers of clients that said they were traders or connected to traders and weren't. Now that Stan has stopped dealing with Stupid Brokers his life is changing for the good.
I have never spoken to Kevin Wheeler, but If I had the needed funds I would sign up in a minute. I know for a fact that Kevin had Stan's clients to the finish and they fell on their face many more than one time. Stan only makes money if a transaction is completed, he needs real clients that are not trying to be someone they are not!
I know that Stan has a partner or two and he has had some individuals that loaned money to keep the business moving forward. I am very sure that any funds loaned by Partners or Individuals will be re-paid and all will be happy.

[London Girl]

Dear All,
I do not know Stan Casad, but have done business with Kevin Wheeler and can tell you he is the real deal. I have made money for my clients more than one time with Mr. Wheeler. Anyone that says Mr. Wheeler can not preform with a real client, have no idea what they are talking about and my bank account could prove that. Your friends must have been or had clients like Stan Casad's clients, completely full of it.

[Arthur Rubin]

It would be interesting to know if Texas and London Girl were posting from the same IP address.....

I mean, normally IP addresses are restricted for the admininstrators' use, but double-posting under different names is a violation of the TOS.

[wserra]

It would be interesting to know if Texas and London Girl were posting from the same IP address.....

Yep. And it ain't London or Texas, tovarisch.

ETA: the board log shows that a poster - one "Ron Brooks" - made two posts to this thread today and then deleted them both. And yes, "Ron" posts from the same IP.

Rather than delete/ban, I prefer to let this stuff stand, as an example of how scammers use sock puppets. Matter of fact, I'm locking their posts, so they can't come back and delete 'em.

[notorial dissent]

Wes, thanks.

Those posts reek of sock puppetry to begin with, and any time I see that kind of a glowing recommendation, particularly after some of the previous posts, I get my snorkel and sharp things out. They're usually not quite that blatant, but they are what they are. I would think the diversion was just a teensy bit after the fact though considering how long this post has been out there, but then I guess that comes of being an inept scam artist.

[webhick]

Not only do we have three people from the same IP address, we've got three people who can't seem to log in. I've got like a whole page of failed login attempts.

[Texas]

It would be interesting to know if Texas and London Girl were posting from the same IP address.....

Yep. And it ain't London or Texas, tovarisch.

ETA: the board log shows that a poster - one "Ron Brooks" - made two posts to this thread today and then deleted them both. And yes, "Ron" posts from the same IP.

Rather than delete/ban, I prefer to let this stuff stand, as an example of how scammers use sock puppets. Matter of fact, I'm locking their posts, so they can't come back and delete 'em.

For what reason would I want to delete my post?

[Texas]

As far as I know, only law enforcement agencies can contact INTERPOL and only for Official Business - is a person wanted internationally, is this document or vehicle reported stolen in another country, etc.

The INTERPOL check suggested by Mike Traynor is expressly not allowed.

I work for the Texas Department of Public Safety (civilian).

BTW Mike, we probably aren't going to do your due diligence for you regarding these two. Research them yourself on the Intar-webs.

That is why Mike Traynor has no idea of what he is talking about, I think he is just talking to be talking.

[Texas]

Yes I agree. I have advised my friends that a professional will have his ducks in a row up front and will not have to continually add additional steps as a transaction goes along. It is just a tactic to stall. I have never believed in these programs anyway, and these two clowns could not get out of a clown car at a circus if they were the only two inside.

Again Mike your talking to be talking, you do not know Stan Casad like I do, your the CLOWN and maybe you work for the CIRCUS?