Private Sector Act dot Com

[Hilfskreuzer Möwe]

When I first directed this particular item to some like-minded persons I referred to it as “The Gift of Stupid”. With that, please allow me to introduce you to “Ty Griffiths”, “human rights activist” and “reality television promoter”. He apparently operates this website:

http://www.privatesectoract.com/

Be prepared for a barrage of home-made hip-hop, computer animated and ‘green screen’ videos, and a speaker dressed in stylish yarn dreadlocks, Elton John novelty glasses, and an oversized “Slash” hat, cryptically babbling about how persons in Alberta are being stripped of their legitimate rights, various stereotypical ‘Strawman’-based concepts, and how some form of legislation is required to protect the everyman’s interest.

If you begin scratching your head, you are not alone.

Oh, and by the way, the button on the front page which you are invited to click so as to send a fax complaint to the Alberta Court of Queen’s Bench? Please don’t click it. I have from a reliable source that it does exactly that.

So what the heck is this thing about?

The answer is provided by this decision of Master Laycock of the Alberta Court of Queen’s Bench:

Scotia Mortgage Corporation v. Gutierrez, 2012 ABQB 683: http://canlii.ca/t/ftq8h

A transcript of the proceeding that led to this judgment is on the Private Sector Act dot Com website under the Unfair Judges Transcripts tab, and Master Laycock button.

So, it seems that an individual in the Calgary, Alberta area named Derek Johnson has been marketing an old 1970’s scam where desperate homeowners can put Mr. Johnson’s company on title to preempt foreclosure. This does not actually defeat the foreclosure, but instead causes the homeowners to incur yet further loss as they pay rent to Johnson and his associates, and then lose their house.

And here is Mr. Johnson’s website:

http://www.freelistcalgary.com/

Perhaps I have an overly suspicious mind, but it appears to me that there is a certain resemblance between the spokesperson on the FreeListCalgary website videos and “Ty Griffiths”. After you mentally remove the get-up that “Ty” is wearing.

So what is the connection between the “Sovereign Citizen” and “Freeman-on-the-Land” concepts that “Ty” is mentioning, and the actual mortgage scam? None that I can identify. Here we have a person who has taken an old kind of fraud and simply placed it, en toto, in a more modern and popular context by superficial reference to ‘dual/split person’ concepts, and other various things. If you review the transcripts published on the Private Sector Act dot Com website, it is apparent that homeowners have been instructed to babble these ideas while in court for some notational effect. The “HSBC Finance Mortgages Inc. vs John and Mary Lou Regier” transcript is probably the best illustration of that.

Judging from the correspondence between “Ty” and various lawyers, it seems there are actual ongoing appeals of a number of Queen’s Bench level decisions. Beyond that, I don’t think “Ty” has had much success in attracting public (even kook) interest. A few months ago an attempt was made to promote this website in the David Icke forum, and that did not seem to attract any attention from even those who embrace the concept of subterranean shape-shifting reptilian overlords. On that basis, I suspect “Ty” will not meet with much success, inside or outside court.

For those who may wish to follow-up for future court outcomes, there is a good chance that none will be published. While the Alberta Court of Appeal does release written reasons for all its decisions, that court has a ‘filtering’ mechanism for dubious claims. The court may require a litigant pay into court a “security for costs” sum prior to the appeal hearing. In Canada, an unsuccessful party to a civil lawsuit is usually required to pay some amount to offset the legal bill of the successful party for being dragged into court. The security for costs in these instances is ordered to guarantee payment of that amount. My understanding is that many frivolous appeals founder at this point.

SMS Möwe

[The Observer]

The Bank Act? The Insurance Act? The Taxman Act? I am think that Canada just needs to implement the Toxic Act and ban Mr. Griffiths as a dangerous material.

Up to this point, I was thinking that the late Dr. Clarkson wearing his tax-fighting cape to IRS offices could never be topped.

[Hilfskreuzer Möwe]

Uh oh. Storm clouds may be gathering for Derek and Ty:

• http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/s ... berta.html
  
  http://www.reca.ca/consumers/content/co ... -Admin.pdf

Seems Derek has been fined $15,000 for pretending to be a real estate agent.

On the brighter side, Ty/Derek has established his very own court, the Alberta Court of Kings Bench: http://www.privatesectoract.com/court_kings_bench

Its guiding principles are eminently practical:

$50.00 vs $200.00 for filing fees

Internet Based Mediation Services served in a Revolutionary Fashion without all the hassles and inconvenience of parking downtown.

The commission the Court of Queen's Bench takes is 100% vs Court of Kings Bench 20% (Negotiable).

Trial by Jury in Common Law - NO LAWYERS Allowed. Only chosen Agents or Human Rights Activists.

No scary Judges wearing black capes. All mediators are fair and unbiased, and highly trained to deal with the people without creating an even more stressful experience.

And, I think Ty/Derek has discovered the 'birth bond' concept. Oh dear:

We can show you how through this new Court Model can save you, the people money. We can show you how you can share in this industry and how accessing your Bond can mean a more fair outcome. You collecting your debt via a conflict bond, even from an individual who has no assets and no financial means to deal with the settlement. We can show you how !

As usual, it will now take hours for me to scour from my mind the Private Sector Act dot Com theme song...

SMS Möwe

[wserra]

On the brighter side, Ty/Derek has established his very own court, the Alberta Court of Kings Bench: http://www.privatesectoract.com/court_kings_bench

Who's the clown in the Bootsy Collins getup? Is that Griffiths?

I know I'd take legal advice from someone who looks like he should be singing "Psychoticbumpschool".

[Kuz'kina Mat']

On the brighter side, Ty/Derek has established his very own court, the Alberta Court of Kings Bench: http://www.privatesectoract.com/court_kings_bench

Clearly, forethought is not a skill possessed by our OPCA friends. What is he going to do when Prince Charles succeeds Queen Elizabeth? Poor freemen will have no way of knowing if they are in the right court! I guess the lack of an apostrophe will have to do. Just make sure to go to the misspelled venue.

[Thule]

On the brighter side, Ty/Derek has established his very own court, the Alberta Court of Kings Bench: http://www.privatesectoract.com/court_kings_bench

Its guiding principles are eminently practical:

No scary Judges wearing black capes. All mediators are fair and unbiased, and highly trained to deal with the people without creating an even more stressful experience.

Meanwhile, the guy promoting this sports dread, sparkly sunglasses and a velvet tophat. Black robes may be scary for some, but they also imply that the wearer is serious, sensible, and let's not forget that oh-so-important sane.

[grixit]

I didn't bother turning up the sound, i just imagined the man in the video saying things like "Dig it, Daddy-o!".

The court is open to "human rights activists", but apparently they don't mean Amnesty International, they mean some sort of special membership status. Also, am i the only one who noticed that the image of the Earth in someone's hands looks like a bowling ball?

[Hilfskreuzer Möwe]

Who's the clown in the Bootsy Collins getup? Is that Griffiths?

Ja, herr Kapitan.

I do not claim to be an expert in the biometrics of the lower face, but when I compare these two persons they seem to have a certain resemblance:

• Ty Griffiths: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIa0ctXepMI
  
  Derek Johnson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVkflQMaBiU

I'm sure time will tell.

SMS Möwe

[Hilfskreuzer Möwe]

Meanwhile, the guy promoting this sports dread, sparkly sunglasses and a velvet tophat. Black robes may be scary for some, but they also imply that the wearer is serious, sensible, and let's not forget that oh-so-important sane.

Yeah. Something I've noticed about Ty and his 'approach': if one can use the 'views' on guru Youtube videos as a method to assess appeal, Ty/Derek is a disaster. Dean Clifford and Robert Menard have orders of magnitude more views. Even CERI's minister Edward-Jay-Robin: Belanger has videos with thousands of hits, and his more usual tripe gets hundreds. Ty/Derek? Most of the videos are under 50 views.

And the entire Private Sector Act dot Com forum has got to be a collection of sock-puppets.

I first ran across this bunch when Ty/Derek posted a message on the David Icke Freeman-on-the-Land forum proclaiming how there were finally some Dudes who were Taking it to The Man. Come visit their website!

Icke-ite interest? Zero. Now, I think that is notable. You concoct a thing that is implausible to persons who are willing to accept that they are ruled by a cabal of extraterrestrial subterranean shape-shifting reptiles who occupy key positions in human society. Such as Willie Nelson.

That's a pretty remarkable accomplishment, when you think about it. (But one probably shouldn't.)

SMS Möwe

[Hilfskreuzer Möwe]

Uh oh. Storm clouds may be gathering for Derek and Ty:

• http://www.reca.ca/consumers/content/co ... -Admin.pdf

Seems Derek has been fined $15,000 for pretending to be a real estate agent.

It looks like Derek has sued the Real Estate Counsel of Alberta ["RECA"] and the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation ["CBC"] for not accepting his rights to do various 'private sector' things:

• http://www.recablog.ca/blog/2013/08/der ... ponse.html

While Johnson had filed a Statement of Claim in the Alberta Court of Queen's Bench, that was done contrary to a vexatious litigant order that stated Johnson could only initiate actions if represented by a lawyer. As in a real one. Net result - the Statement of Claim and resulting lawsuit are a nullity. While Johnson and his minions have apparently been bombarding various real estate agents, RECA, and the CBC with faxes about how they had obtained a default judgment and won, that was not the case. RECA concludes:

For the record, we deny any liability whatsoever. Our conduct throughout was lawful and in fulfilment of the legislative mandate conferred by Alberta's Real Estate Act. We have properly exercised our legislative authority. We have done nothing wrong.

This Administrative Penalty remains unpaid. No steps have been taken by Mr. Johnson to appeal that decision and it remains in full force and effect.

I have a couple observations.

First, for some reason Derek / "Ty" has not apparently taken the obvious step of simply uploading his Statement of Claim against RECA, the CBC, and others. Why isn't he sharing this important document?

The second is that if the RECA report is accurate, then we have, in fact, the very first potentially verifiable case where a Freeman court action has 'disappeared'! This is a frequent allegation in Freeman-on-the-Land circles - we Freemen win all the time but then The Cabal hides our court files and judgments so we can't show you. Well, here in fact there is a lawsuit which has been erased or as stated in the RECA report:

... We have sought further information from the records of the Clerk, and received advice from the "Procedure Record Print" that the action number was "used in error".

Conspiracy! Shock! Truth! Amazement!

Last, I am puzzled. As is previously noted in this message thread, Ty Griffiths / privatesectoract.com offers the services of its own court, "The Court of Kings Bench". Why didn't Derek use that venue given its lower filing fees, its 20% commission, and absence of scary judges?

Very puzzling.

SMS Möwe

[Hilfskreuzer Möwe]

Well, hey! Whatya know - there’s a new PrivateSectorAct.com judgment documenting the ongoing adventures of Derek Ryan Johnson, Ty Griffiths, and a bunch of new supporting characters:

• 1158997 Alberta Inc v Maple Trust Company, 2013 ABQB 483: http://canlii.ca/t/g0bdl

And, hey! Whatya know – they all get declared vexatious litigants. The End.

Well, ok, there IS a little bit more than that. First, this is an amalgamated trial of three actions in which companies either run or probably sockpuppetted by Derek Johnson sue mortgage companies, the mortgage companies lawyers, the Calgary Court of Queen’s Bench, and three different Masters of that court. The basis for the lawsuit? That in each of the three actions the defendants had incorrectly / illegally requested and ordered the sale of foreclosed properties even though Derek Johnson had told them not to.

Recapping the scheme, Johnson’s companies approach people who are being foreclosed, and offer to buy their home (for no payment) so that the former owners and now tenants can pay Johnson rent, while Johnson re-sells the property to other shell companies in exchange for mortgages (that do not exist) between his companies. It is, at best, a delaying tactic. It is, at worst, a pain for any non-criminal caught up in all this.

Justice Sal LoVecchio (best Mafia judge name ever!) explains this last point via his introduction to the judgment:

[1] The Courts are an open process and available to all. Unfortunately, some of those who access the Courts have their own agenda. They often portray that agenda as being on the side of equity and fairness. However, far too often these days the reality is quite different. These three cases are vivid examples.

[2] The name of one of the Plaintiffs, Partners in Success Mortgage Inc., really says it all. We will be the “Partner” of the little guy or gal and help the little guy or gal successfully defend a mortgage foreclosure brought against them by those big bad financial institutions. The problem - they don’t really want to help the little guy or gal.

[3] Quite to the contrary, they often contribute to the misery of the debtor by initially holding out false hopes and then, in the end, taking money from them, thereby increasing not decreasing their misfortune. Along the way, they leave a trail of unpaid cost awards against them when their various actions are dismissed.

One notable development – Ty Griffiths makes his first court appearance! Or doesn’t.

[58] In each action, an individual named Ty Griffiths is identified as agent for all of the remaining Plaintiffs. Mr. Rooney, Q.C. (who is one of the Counsel for the Applicants) indicated that he received an e-mail in all 3 actions stating that Ty Griffith is the agent for the Respondent parties.

[59] Based on the Affidavit of Mr. Lintott, the Respondent corporations, 115, Partners, and 167 are not represented by an active member of the Law Society of Alberta and the Applicants also submit that Ty Griffiths is not an active member of the Law Society of Alberta.

[60] A Ty Griffiths was not present at the hearings and I do not know whether or not he is a real person. To further complicate the matter, Ms. Evanna Ellis said at the hearing that she was the agent for Ty Griffiths.

The defendants also argue all involved are OPCA litigants (Meads v. Meads, 2012 ABQB 571), and in particular, “Ty Griffiths, if he exists, would be a classic “guru” of OPCA litigants.”

As usual, the amusing part of the judgment comes from the courtroom antics of Johnson and his cohorts. Johnson relied on an unfiled affidavit (para. 78). He blamed all things on uncooperative banks, who would have received their money if they had just given him a chance. Justice LoVecchio didn’t buy it (para. 80):

… I note not one shred of evidence was provided to support that allegation of fault or the existence of any financing arrangements other than the assertion he originally made which he was then required to subsequently recant.

Johnson also argued that in this case there is a conflict of interest between the Court of Queen’s Bench and the mortgage lenders (para. 81). Why? “He submits that the Court of Queen’s Bench is a registered corporation that profits from the sale of debt.” Justice LoVecchio does not even dignify this argument with a response. And I have to add, if it’s a conflict of interest, why are you, Mr. Johnson, suing in this jurisdiction rather than appealing the previous decisions by that corrupt/conflicted correct? Or as another alternative, why not initiate the action in your "Alberta Court of Kings Bench”. I understand it has very reasonable rates!

Evanna Ellis, who is the agent for Ty Griffiths, who is agent for the plaintiffs, did not add much via oral argument. She seems to have alleged that Johnson et al are not OPCA litigants, nor could they be vexatious litigants, because they were “investors in a private enterprise in a capitalistic society”, the entire OPCA category only relates to family law and family law issues, and they had been “denied due process”: paras. 82-83. She also did not bother to attend the second day of the hearing. The last involved person, Jason Mizonni didn’t say anything at all about his company and its activities (para. 85).

In brief, Justice LoVecchio finds all actions fatally flawed, and observes that the three lawsuits “are a textbook précis” of the characteristics of vexatious litigation: para. 71. Furthermore, each action was fatally flawed as the Johnson group of companies never had a contractual relationship with the mortgage lenders (para. 90). They had their chance in court (para. 91). Most importantly, Johnson et al could have appealed the decisions of the Masters, but chose not to do so (para. 92). Further, Johnson and his companies owes various litigants $1.5 million in unpaid judgments.

Everybody involved gets declared a vexatious litigant: Derek Johnson, Sarabjit Singh Sarin, Jason Mizzoni, Ajay K. Aneja, and all companies to which they are affiliated, along with prohibitions against initiating any lawsuit in any Alberta court. As for Ty?

[105] As I noted already, Ty Griffiths, who has been identified as agent for the Respondents, has not appeared before this Court and I have no idea whether or not he actually exists.

[106] If he does, Ty Griffiths, an individual associated with the corporate Respondents and being a person they have identified as their agent, is declared as a vexatious litigant pursuant to Section 23.1(4) of the Judicature Act.

[107] As I noted earlier, during oral argument, Ms. Ellis said she was appearing as an agent for Ty Griffiths. Consequently, by extension, pursuant to Section 23.1(4) of the Judicature Act, Evanna Ellis, as an individual who is “[...] associated with the person against whom an order under subsection (1) is made”, is declared as a vexatious litigant.

[108] If he does not exist, she has misled the Court in a very a material way and as such should be declared a vexatious litigant in her own right.

The defendants have costs ordered against every one of Derek and his cohorts, with joint and several liability (para. 116).

Evanna Ellis seems to have various leftist/anti genetically modified food, Occupista interests. She may have tried to run a restaurant which went belly up. Nothing too particularly interesting.

Jason Mizzoni works at the CRA. Oh no – not that evil one – the “Canada Refund Agency” (http://www.salespider.com/bp-50207896/jason-mizzoni). I couldn’t find out anything significant about this CRA beyond that it offers “integrated wealth strategies”. Jason also is involved in the “Kustom Design Group of Companies” (http://www.zoominfo.com/s/#!search/prof ... id=profile) (http://kustomdesign.ca/), which may be legit. At least it did not immediately set off my alarm bells.

Nothing interesting on Sarin or Aneja.

To date I have not identified any specific response from Ty, Derek, or any of his associates to this judgment. Nor has his … enthusiastic marketing apparently managed to reach the commons. I see that not one of the Ty Griffiths Private Sector Act videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/privatesectoract/) has cracked 100 views. Most have not reached 50.

I now wait in quiet anticipation of some criminal prosecutions.

SMS Möwe

[LordEd]

To date I have not identified any specific response from Ty, Derek, or any of his associates to this judgment. Nor has his … enthusiastic marketing apparently managed to reach the commons. I see that not one of the Ty Griffiths Private Sector Act videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/privatesectoract/) has cracked 100 views. Most have not reached 50.

I now wait in quiet anticipation of some criminal prosecutions.

SMS Möwe

Searching for " Ty Griffiths " and "mortgage" will bring this thread up quickly on google. I happened upon it by looking as the case cites meads, which is a great source to find these cases.

I found https://www.facebook.com/ty.griffiths.31?fref=ts on facebook. He appears to have responded to the vexatious status on facebook

PLEASE SEND THIS NEW COMPLAINT AGAINST THE "COURT OF QUEENS BENCH" LABELING PEOPLE "VEXATIOUS LITIGANTS" CANADIANS NOT ALLOWED TO USE THEIR OWN COURTS

Step1- copy paste and send to this email address: qp@gov.ab.ca

step 2 Bcc it to complaintsent1stepcloser@gmail.com

Please copy and paste this email

Dear Master's of Chambers,

It has come to my attention through the local Human Rights Activist Community that the Court of Queen's Bench of Alberta is not providing for Truth and Justice and is now resorting to calling people who are questioning Big Banks and Financial Institutions in foreclosure situations "vexatious" as a means in which to BAR them from your Court rooms and silence them. On June 6th, I ask, in solidarity with Candian citizens everywhere, that you do the Right and Honourable thing and SUPPORT DUE PROCESS in our court system. Do the right thing and prove you truly are capable of being objective and an unbiased mediator, give Canadian's the chance to have hope for our legal system once more. DO NOT allow any personal opinion, or personal interest to interfere with the proper execution of your duties as an Officer of this Canadian Court.

1. Kindly provide a clear explanation of the term "vexatious litigant". How is this label considered appropriate for this situation?

2. Why is it that Defendants, and invested parties that are under obligation to attend Court by way of Statement of Claim or Statment of Defence, are not being allowed to defend or address their positions in Court? I am aware that this is an ongoing situation with regard to 1158897Alberta Inc., a corporation who has a vested interest in current issues before the bar.

3. Please explain how permitting this injustice serves the purpose of the Alberta Court of Queen's Bench and our democratic justice system's obligation to provide FAIR, EQUITABLE AND UNBIASED mediation?

I have come to some rather disturbing conclusions after my research, and truly wish to read your responses to these inquiries. Otherwise I will expect that I am correct about the Alberta Court of Queen's Bench and all related halls of justice are indeed selling judgments and orders on the stock market. This has been documented and evidenced by the listing of every court in Canada on the Dun & Bradstreet website.

Can you explain why our courts even have a listing on the stock exchange if not to sell the one thing they produce - judgments?

As a citizen of this great country, I am within my constitutional right to ask these questions of you, and also, I have the right to expect the courtesy of a reply. Three easy questions to answer, unless of course you have something to hide....?

This is my Official Complaint and demand letter with questions I expect to be returned, and I will be following the pending lawsuits and mass court actions coming from the Canadian people with http://www.privatesectoract.com

[Hilfskreuzer Möwe]

Want some more stupid? Check out this post on the David Icke forum (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=255506):

privatesectoract.com

Keep an eye on this Organization... from Calgary, Alberta Canada [/B]

This group is 4 years on the front lines and will be taking the fight for freedom to the next level.

So far, this organization has assisted in obtaining a 10 million dollar default judgement against RECA (Real Estate Council of Alberta) for slandering a local Calgary businessman.

Here is a recent NEWS update that was sent to the local Real Estate community by The Private Sector.

...

RECA employee/Investigator Tricia Hickey has been under investigation since December 2012 by the Private Sector for violating Human Rights.

Based on her actions of attempting to extort money from a private individual and a Private company doing business in Calgary that does not fall under the RECA Banner, RECA and Tricia Hickey has been caught and a $10,000,000 default judgement determined due to RECA failing to defend themselves via Statement of Defence as per the Alberta rules of Court.

Further legal actions are in process in order to ensure Tricia Hickey and RECA are made an example of to everyone in the Industry and the Private Sector. For too long, this "self-governing" body has taken advantage of Realtors, Mortgage Brokers, and even preying on Private people who are not under contract to be governed by RECA, taking money in exchange for allowing them to keep making a living in one of these positions. We view this as extortion and have many examples of people who have been treated unfairly and their livelihoods threatened and in many cases taken away for not being able to pay off RECA in order to stay employed and carry on being a Realtor or Mortgage Broker.

...

We are experts in Conflict Resolution and believe in Justice and accountability.

...

The NEW Court of Kings Bench is opening in Calgary as a competing Court to the Alberta Court of Queens Bench.

This is where the battle will be fought... in the Court of the Private Sector rather than the commercial market place that sells judgements for profit and is a registered trading entity rather than a service for the people.

The Private Sector as of Sept 5 has a 700 Strong membership base with 20,000 people following our mission on social media.

Come visit us... become a Virtual Human Rights Activist and join the fight.

http://www.privatesectoract.com

At present that message has been viewed 152 times - and no one has exhibited any interest. When you strike out at D'Icke's ... you're really slipping.

I also am a touch skeptical of the membership and 'following' data. But - it looks like the privatesectoract.com website has been updated and ... Ty Griffiths may have decided to reveal his true visage in this new 'intro' video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0Z9r2zR ... bedded#t=0)! Unlike his companion "Laura", the hyperactive and mysterious fellow in toque does not identify himself - but that voice sounds very familiar!

And they are So Kewl.

If that is indeed "Ty" then I have to retract an earlier suggestion that he and Derek Johnson are one and the same. My error - mea culpa.

I would have thought a presentation without get-up would have been an improvement, but somehow "Ty" and Co. still have not instilled confidence.

SMS Möwe

[anony]

I would like to say something about the "Respondents" in the above case and the saga that continues.

I have been looking for real estate properties to invest in and when I came across Derek Johnson through his website, I thought I found an amazing source. Upon further research, I discover he advertises openly on kijiji, multiple youtube videos (one that was just uploaded), and a website that is still functioning. If Derek is a con artist, he would have been shut down by now, don't you think? Continuing, everything seemed legit to me at that point; open houses with multiple people coming and going and sorrow-filled previous owners, now tenants, as they mope about and try and help you understand what the situation is -- never anything negative towards Derek.

As an investment, I figure, well if I buy this property. As per Derek, I will receive instant cash flow with a guaranteed tenant. That's awesome! To top it off it's a fair and ethical situation for the previous owners since they have the first right of refusal to purchase. It's explained to me that they are setup on a rent-to-own type deal. "Not the same thing, but similar".

So therefore, with my "investor hat" on, I figure it's a great deal all around. At the end if the previous owner leaves in the end anyway, I've bought it low enough where I can retain it as a rental or flip it for greater profits. Not to mention, with a decent down payment I can get an amazing mortgage through Partners in Success. They will offer 2% at 40 years amortization.

Wow well isn't this such a rosey deal????

I called up as many people as I could in those court documents but could never reach the Respondents. I did get a hold of that Mohammed that was "swindled out of his home" (shows up on google if you search "Derek Johnson calgary") and he had nothing but negative things to say about him of course.

My point, I believe the "Respondents" themselves are victims, and of everything that I have read to date including the ridiculous videos I went through and the court transcripts I read at Ty Griffiths site, no mention to what happens to the "investors", "new buyers" or the "respondents".

They (and their company's) are now labeled as vexatious litigants. I don't believe we are hearing their fair side of the story in all this.

I'm guessing, that they lose their deposits, pay a bunch of fines since their "affliated" with Derek Johnson, and through his coaching, or conning rather, they don't take a hard enough stance so they sink with him.

Another set of victims to be added to the pile...

Oh and freelistcalgary.com and Derek Johnson are still going strong on kijiji and youtube recruiting new amateur investor-wannabes and scamming everyone all around.

[Hilfskreuzer Möwe]

anony, welcome to Quatloos and thank you for sharing your experiences with privatesectoract.com and Ty and Derek. It was very interesting to read your comments and I am delighted that you dodged the bullet and were not caught up in this scam.

I have a few questions, which I hope you do not mind answering if you could. Can you tell us about the arrangement for the property buyers? From your comments it sounds like Johnson is acting as a kind of 'middle man', hooking up desperate persons who face foreclosure and potential investors, then fleecing both sides of the equation. Is that correct?

Second, have you had any personal interaction with Johnson and Griffiths? Griffiths seems to advance a very OPCA-focussed approach (if you are unfamiliar with this term please see Meads v. Meads, 2012 ABQB 571 (http://canlii.ca/t/fsvjq)). Does Johnson recruit his marks using the same patter, or does he play things 'straight'?

I would also be very curious if you had any comment on what these persons are like 'in the flesh'. If his videos are any indication I suspect prolonged exposure to Griffiths would drive me to engage in self-mutiliation.

As I have previously observed I suspect the police will at some point become involved. If you are right about the investors then I hope that comes to light and the prosecution focusses on the truly guilty parties.

SMS Möwe

[anony]

Thanks. That's no problem with the questions and sorry for the delay in responding:

Can you tell us about the arrangement for the property buyers? From your comments it sounds like Johnson is acting as a kind of 'middle man', hooking up desperate persons who face foreclosure and potential investors, then fleecing both sides of the equation. Is that correct?

Yes, he is exactly acting like the middle man. Very much "fleecing" both sides. What I find most interesting is that the courts think he is collecting the rental income, instead he has now passed this off onto the Buyer's as a perk but likely collecting the down payments for himself when the courst judge against him in the end anyway (I'm guessing, but that would makes sense to me). This is why I would love to hear what the Respondents have to say especially about their deposits. The arrangement with the Buyers is that you are purchasing the property, the previous owners will stay in their house as tenants, they are under the Tenancy at Will contract, they have a year or two to come up with the money to buy their property back at fair market value. But if they don't make rental payments or decide not to stick it out, the house is the Buyers and now they can do with it whatever they like. The Buyers get their mortgage through Johnson's Partner in Success that offers a 40 year amortization at 2% or close enough.

Second, have you had any personal interaction with Johnson and Griffiths? Griffiths seems to advance a very OPCA-focussed approach (if you are unfamiliar with this term please see Meads v. Meads, 2012 ABQB 571 (http://canlii.ca/t/fsvjq)). Does Johnson recruit his marks using the same patter, or does he play things 'straight'?

I have never met Griffiths (thank god) or Johnson in person. Other buyers that I met at the open houses have also never met Johnson in person either. He's always very active on the phone however. He seemed to be in constant communication with the "tenants" when we were there lined up to go in. I was very relieved to read when I first came across this thread months ago that someone thought Griffiths and Johnson could be the same person too! That struck me when I first saw the videos but later dismissed it. Who knows... Very well played between the two however. I believe Griffiths has other court cases on his website too which is probably why I originally dismissed it. I don't understand why Griffiths has to hide if he's such a proponent of standing up for the right thing. Johnson does play it "straight". Very matter of fact. He's quite rehearsed in his lines. A couple of questions I asked him made me feel like he wasn't prepared for it but he's a quick/smooth talker so the hesitation and stalling almost went unnoticed. At the time it left me thinking that he was simply not involved in that aspect enough so it wasn't really concerning (I was probing about the conveyance, who was paying the original mortgage, the terms, lenders used, etc). I figured everything would go past my lawyer anyhow if something was wrong.

I would also be very curious if you had any comment on what these persons are like 'in the flesh'. If his videos are any indication I suspect prolonged exposure to Griffiths would drive me to engage in self-mutiliation.

I wish. That would satisfy my curiosity as well! I strongly urge that you give Johnson a call posing as a potential investor and get the feel for yourself. Come on, it'll be fun!! I'm sure he's got more ads strewn across kijiji but here's all his ads currently: http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-PostersOther ... dZ85421178

With the type of person Johnson is, and I bet you he is just relishing all this analysis and attention we are wasting on him. With all the time he's wasting on the internet creating those videos and posting those ads he has to know about this website...

As I have previously observed I suspect the police will at some point become involved. If you are right about the investors then I hope that comes to light and the prosecution focusses on the truly guilty parties.

I'm not sure if shutting this guy is the solution anymore either. I mean of course it needs to be done and I don't think a Buyer has ever been successful in owning a property through him. But as creative as he seems to be, it will make future occurences of his scams harder to catch. At least for now you know anything from freelistcalgary or Partners in Success should be avoided unless you want to purely mess around with him in your spare time for fun. It's hard with people like this. Again, not sure what the solution should be, as long as people can use the internet to do a quick little search on the company names.

If I ever find the motivation to try and contact the Buyers in those court cases again, I will post their stories here if they allow it (or I'll be vague or generic so as not to give them away).

[notorial dissent]

This sounds very much, in fact almost exactly like a series of scams that was making the rounds down here when the property boom was first going bust. Someone would set themselves up as a mortgage rescue or repair or fill in the blanks business, and was specifically looking for people who were or nearly were in foreclosure, vaguely promise they would get them out of it, and then proceed to get them in deeper and worse.

The rescuer would have the client "sell" or transfer the property title to him, and he would then charge them "rent" while allegedly clearing the mortgage, and eventually getting the property back to them. What generally happened was that the rescuer just proceeded to pocket the money until he found someone to buy the property, or more likely it was foreclosed on, and then they would disappear. The original people were still out both the house and the money, the rescuer got away with whatever monies he could get, and the original property owners were screwed on the mortgage, by him, and then later when the mortgage holders came back on them for any difference between what was loaned and what was received on the sale, and the title was almost always messed up as a result because of the fraudulent deeds. This was a pretty active little scam business here for a while, but they all got pretty well put out of business and many of the players got jail time as a result.

[Hilfskreuzer Möwe]

Thanks. That's no problem with the questions and sorry for the delay in responding

No - thank you! First-hand information such as this is invaluable to better understand these phenomena. I'm simply very pleased that you found this discussion and it twigged another level of concern.

I too would be interested to hear more from the buyers in this arrangement. Again, I do think this will eventually end up in court but sadly that is probably years off. However, I am a little less concerned about Derek and Ty repeating this exercise under a more clever guise. White collar criminals do not usually seem to find incarceration to their liking - at least that has been my observation.

I would also be very curious if you had any comment on what these persons are like 'in the flesh'. If his videos are any indication I suspect prolonged exposure to Griffiths would drive me to engage in self-mutiliation.

I wish. That would satisfy my curiosity as well! I strongly urge that you give Johnson a call posing as a potential investor and get the feel for yourself. Come on, it'll be fun!! I'm sure he's got more ads strewn across kijiji but here's all his ads currently: http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-PostersOther ... dZ85421178

You are tempting me to engage in evil! Because of my personality and unfortunate over-familiarity with various OPCA motifs I would probably either fudge the conversation so that at some point it seemed inadvertently disclosed that I was a police investigator - or I would break into Freeman-on-the-Land foisted contract babble speak.

On the other hand, the latter alternative would be interesting as a mechanism to test whether they believe their own arguments...

With the type of person Johnson is, and I bet you he is just relishing all this analysis and attention we are wasting on him. With all the time he's wasting on the internet creating those videos and posting those ads he has to know about this website...

One would think so. Here's the point where I become confused about the competence of Derek and Ty. The real estate scam makes a lot of sense: it brings in cash, commissions, etc - real income. The whole privatesectoract.com 'Fight The System' thing is a post-scam defence, and one that has to leave a certain slice of potential marks backing away in alarm. Derek may be slick, but the OPCA approach here is exceptionally stupid, and its presentation, worse.

Why bother with it at all? That's what I can't answer, unless the dynamic duo believe, at some level, that it will work. The same is true of the lawsuits against the courts - that's nothing but a waste of filing fees. They would have been better off either launching a true legal appeal, or ignoring those results. In a nutshell that is why I am so puzzled.

If I ever find the motivation to try and contact the Buyers in those court cases again, I will post their stories here if they allow it (or I'll be vague or generic so as not to give them away).

That would be very much appreciated. And thank you again for having shared your experience and observations!

SMS Möwe

[exposefraud]

Ty Griffiths is in reality a man named Kevin Kumar who is affiliated with Derek Johnson. They together have several numbered companies along with freelist.com and Satori Investments. You can find Satori Investements and Freelist in the BBB with a F grade. And also reported as a company in which the BBB feels may be involved in illegal business activities.

[sue123]

Hello,
I have first hand information. I was involved and swindled by Derek Johnson and company almost two years ago. It was I, that brought it to the attention of RECA (Real Estate Council Of Alberta) whom which would not get involved because Derek Johnson was not actually a real estate agent ( so they said they had no control) I did have a realtor license voluntarily revoked, of a realtor who helped him swindle me. RECA only became involved after I wrote a very polite but angry letter to the Calgary Chief of Police where I stated numerous facts of how he was ripping off many people and making families homeless and the law would not do anything because, as they inquired to me, " Did he hold a knife to your throat?"
Police advised my only recourse was a civil action, IF you can serve him and IF you win, he wont pay anyway.

I then became angry when the Calgary Police flipped out in the news about a guy that fondled a woman's HAIR on the city transit, stating that it was a potentially harmful crime they would JUMP on because it was so serious! I wrote the chief and said by comparison, that since apparently it wasn't a crime to rip off families etc, then I figure I am going to RENT every home in Calgary that I can find, who has owners on vacation, since there was no law I would have to be accountable to. Shortly after, RECA became interested again and did in fact, fine him 15 thousand dollars and that's when it had a blip on the CBC news.

Derek employed representatives to handle the lease for us, and we met the cleaning people at the home as they finished up. I had called the city, the BBB and the person who rents him office space before I signed anything. All came up clean with rave endorsements. Less Than two months after we moved in, the bank notified us to get out and graciously gave us four weeks to find a new home. We lost $950 damage deposit because tenants have NO RIGHTS when a legal foreclosure happens.
Derek employs a well detailed STING and some people in it are obviously aware that it is shady but do it for CASH anyway.( cleaning people etc)
Alberta is apparently the only province in Canada that allows a person to sign over their LAND TITLE without a notary or judge witnessing it. It is THIS that Derek Johnson uses to swindle people. If the law were changed, he couldn't do it anymore. I call it KITING LAND TITLES because its similar to old CHEQUE KITING, where you write a cheque, then write another to cover it seven days later, then write another to cover THAT one , seven days after that. He shuffles the land title so much that the banks cant catch up but when they finally do, original law stands, and the original owner loses everything.
Derek Johnson of FREELISTCALGARY currently lists MILLIONS of dollars of real estate. ( on Kijij which is a subsidiary of Ebay (now) and has been notified repeatedly, and DOESN'T CARE.

He is a gutless wiener of a man, living in a very big house and driving a black SUV and a candy red Mustang convertible.