The Tacit Supreme In Law Court & United Sovran Nations

[redbird]

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/alberta-pensio ... 09464.html

Please go to the link above to see what's happening in Calgary this morning.

I am not familiar with the day-to-day operations of the Tacit In Law Supreme Court, but I do know of a group in Edmonton. They believe they are completely free from ALL Canadian law and it's just a matter of time before they separate themselves "from Canada" and live on the HUGE parcel of Crown land they purchased from the indians. I understand indians sold 300+ sections of Crown land and the sovrans will soon move. It wouldn't suprise me if RCMP tried to move them off this land that they might fight with more than just words. just saying???

[The Observer]

And as for purgery of the authorize representative, i think that means that when you die, your strawman has to do hard labor in the afterlife.

Nah, it's simpler than that: you read it, you barf.

Or you have harsh laxatives forced down down your throat.

[notorial dissent]

I understand indians sold 300+ sections of Crown land and the sovrans will soon move.

My question would be, did these "Indians" really sell them anything, did they have anything they could sell, Crown land would seem to indicate it really wasn't theirs to begin with, and if they did, did they in fact get paid. 300 Sections of land is not going to be for a small piece of change, and why would anyone willingly want these crazies as neighbors, when they have previously shown just how bad a neighbors they can be?

Little nigglety details like that. I think it sounds more like they have built themselves a nice little fantasy to live in, the problem being that no one else is participating.

[fortinbras]

This gives me an opportunity to express some unenlightened opinions.

I don't know about the Canadian transaction referred to, but in the US the chronic talk about how the evil palefaces swindled the poor noble Indians of their land is a tiresome litany that attributes European notions of ownership to First Americans who never shared them.

The American aboriginals had, as a generality, no particular sense of permanent ownership of real estate. They had little concept of crop farming, and were nomadic - moving their entire villages from season to season (or even month to month) to different spots to exploit the natural growth until they had exhausted it and moved on to the next natural orchard or the like. The closest they came to the concept of ownership is that they tended not to settle where they knew another tribe had recently been. Oddly enough, it was because of an addiction to tobacco that eventually caused some tribes to settle in a fixed place and learn to cultivate crops.

When the Europeans came and wanted permanent ownership of some piece of land, the Indians were usually happy to accept payment which was essentially taking something of value for a time-share that they had never paid for. When the Indians came to realize that this transaction meant that they were no longer allowed to return to the place during fruit-ripening season they got belligerent.

[Burnaby49]

After all the publicity the Calgary police must have realized that letting an old lady be harassed by a nutcase makes them look bad. According to my local paper they are finally trying to see if there is anything they can do about the situation.

http://www.theprovince.com/news/canada/ ... story.html

[redbird]

I understand indians sold 300+ sections of Crown land and the sovrans will soon move.

My question would be, did these "Indians" really sell them anything, did they have anything they could sell, Crown land would seem to indicate it really wasn't theirs to begin with, and if they did, did they in fact get paid. 300 Sections of land is not going to be for a small piece of change, and why would anyone willingly want these crazies as neighbors, when they have previously shown just how bad a neighbors they can be?

Little nigglety details like that. I think it sounds more like they have built themselves a nice little fantasy to live in, the problem being that no one else is participating.

ok, from what I understand, the indians sold each portion of land for silver coins. I think it was like 15 or more pieces of fine silver and then the indians split the coins among themselves. Personally I don't think they have the authority to sell Crown land, but who am I? the province doesn't know about this alleged sale of crown land yet, we'll see what happens over the next year when the embassy people start moving onto this crown land.

[notorial dissent]

I personally doubt that any of that crowd could get together enough real money in silver or otherwise to even make a down payment, let alone actually buy that amount of land.

As far as I can determine, the largest current Canadian silver coin is the Maple Leaf and it retails for about $30 US, which means that at most, assuming they had bought Maple Leaf coins they gave the "indians" about $450 US for the land, which I highly doubt would come close to covering its value. The silver coins for land is an old Freeman myth, which has exactly no value in law or reality. At any rate, considering the source, I wouldn't put any more faith in those claims than I would any of their other fantasies.

[Hilfskreuzer Möwe]

More fun.

First, a quasi-interview with Pirelli (http://globalnews.ca/news/861599/freema ... -property/). Have a look and see.

On the brighter side, the Alberta Court of Queen's Bench issued a 'get out by Friday' or else order. Also, it seems Pirelli (as Antonacci) has an outstanding aggravated arrest warrant from Quebec. For throwing his landlady down the stairs, leading to broken bones. After he claimed the rental property he had occupied was an embassy.

Huh. I think I see a pattern.

But at least he wants to share his story. The hiccup? A demand to be paid $5 million in gold before he grants an interview (http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/09/24/ca ... ht-in-gold). But miscreants beware, as the Senior Chief Justice has warned that what is presumably the Tacit Supreme In Law Court's private police force is about to arrive:

After mumbling something about “provost marshals” coming to Calgary “because this is big,” he hung up.

Yep - that's pure Freeman-on-the-Land attitude, if nothing else!

And Yup, that could be big!

SMS Möwe

[notorial dissent]

Well, certainly Sovcit at any rate, although this one is beginning to sound more and more like your garden variety dangerous nutter as much as anything else. He may not survive a competency hearing, which I suspect is in his immediate future at this point.

[wserra]

A similar story to Möwe's.

[Burnaby49]

A similar story to Möwe's.

In Vancouver, the society has started legal actions against a man whom licensed notaries claim is an imposter.

“He’s doing goofy things, like faking documents,” Usher said.

According to the society, at least 15 people have appeared in court with bogus credentials provided by the alleged imposter, claiming they’re peace officers.

Are they refering to Chief Rock Sino?

[redbird]

I personally doubt that any of that crowd could get together enough real money in silver or otherwise to even make a down payment, let alone actually buy that amount of land.

As far as I can determine, the largest current Canadian silver coin is the Maple Leaf and it retails for about $30 US, which means that at most, assuming they had bought Maple Leaf coins they gave the "indians" about $450 US for the land, which I highly doubt would come close to covering its value. The silver coins for land is an old Freeman myth, which has exactly no value in law or reality. At any rate, considering the source, I wouldn't put any more faith in those claims than I would any of their other fantasies.

You got it!!! they paid in Maple Leaf coins and they absolutely paid the indians the money. the indians don't care what the value of the land is, they only care about getting silver coins for "nothing" and the idiots "buying" the land think they can live on it FOREVER!

[Hilfskreuzer Möwe]

A few more updates on the siege of The Senior Chief Justice in his Embassy:

First, the Senior Chief Justice is refusing to talk to media types until they read his paperwork (http://globalnews.ca/news/863738/justic ... -movement/):

On Wednesday, Global Calgary’s Tony Tighe spoke to a person inside the home, who then shoved a stack of papers towards him when asked to comment. “We’ll let the paper do the talking,” he said. “Well, how come?” Tighe asked. “You just gotta read that first,” was the man’s reply.

The same or similar paperwork has been distributed to other media outlets, including the CBC (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/c ... -1.1868798). The CBC report pans over some of the material in question, which displays lots of postage stamps, fingerprints, and other 'special' characteristics that jump out and shout: "I'm an OPCA litigant and I'm proud!"

Sadly, these items have not been reproduced by any source of which I am aware, so I can only guess at the content. Yes, I am disappointed.

A bit more information has emerged on the Tuesday court hearing where The Senior Chief Justice was represented by a chap who refused to give his name or pass the bar (http://www.660news.com/2013/09/25/calga ... sy-closed/). Apparently, this "agent" was "Kenneth of the Walter family", or alternatively, "Oochuk". "Oochuk" said the Alberta Court of Queen's Bench decision to evict The Senior Chief Justice will be appealed.

As an aside I am curious as to why the Tacit Supreme In Law Court simply does not take jurisdiction and countermand this Queen's Bench order. Or, for that matter, declare the Queen's Bench is merely a de-facto corporation. Or something.

There is further evidence that The Senior Chief Justice's 'private police force' may soon appear (http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/calga ... story.html):

At the Parkdale home early Wednesday evening, a man who did not identify himself told the Herald that he and his group are allies to the Queen. Speaking through a window, he said provost marshals, officials he described as protectors of the Queen's allies, will soon swoop in.

"We're not authorized to disclose and if we do that, lives will be put at harm as the provost marshals are already in town; they're going to step in in four weeks," the man said.

Adding insult to injury, The Senior Chief Justice also is facing trial for failing to obtain appropriate business licences (http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/ca ... 85756.html), with a maximum penalty of $300,000.00 or triple the profit obtained while unlicenced, whatever is higher. Apparently he was caught by an undercover sting (http://globalnews.ca/news/866114/freema ... -province/).

The CBC has been doing some pretty decent reporting on the general background of the Sovereign / Freeman worlds, in particular a 20 minute interview with Ron Usher from the B.C. Notary Society and Mark Pitcavidge of the Anti-Defamation League (http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/episode/20 ... dian-land/).

Traffic in Canadian Freeman-on-the-Land circles on this subject has become curiously muted. Robert Menard has promised to speak on the issue at some point, but that hasn't happened yet. He's peeved he didn't get interviewed on that CBC program (https://www.facebook.com/robert.menard. ... 0602963690)

CBC 'The Current' aired this morning. I spoke with a producer, yesterday, explained our position and was slated to be interviewed. Then I receive an email saying the line up has changed. Then they interview an American, with the ADL no less, who we are supposed to accept as an expert on what some Canadians believe. What an obviously completely biased misrepresentation! Shame on you Anna Maria Tremonti for such shoddy journalism.

Rob shouldn't have worried. A True Freeman stepped into the breach and has explained all. Whom, you ask? Our dear friend Brian "Freakin' Idiot" Alexander. How's that going to turn out? Well... here's Brian's thoughts to his peers about the Calgary scenario and The Senior Chief Justice (https://www.facebook.com/WorldFreemanSo ... 1090169356):

Brian Alexander
pretty sure he isa governmetn plant/agent instagating a falseflag f---storm to creat public backlash and a reason to create some more unconstitutional legislation. the f---er shows up from out of province, before that out of country..."convienant"
September 22 at 9:29pm

[Redacted for those with gentle souls readily offended by Freeman Freespeech.]

I wonder if he'd say the same thing on national radio (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/c ... -1.1868798)?

At this point, uh, the movement is trying to remedy the situation for the lady and do what we can to figure out who this guy is and how to get him out of there. Through his actions he, he defines himself as perhaps somebody who is influenced by government, uh, agent or to do these types of things to bring about, uh, legal ramifications and change in legislation.

...

There are some questions as to whether he is legitimately acting on his own or if he is actually being pushed by government powers to actually create a negative ... feedback in the public and within government to create more legislation to be able to take away yet more liberties on people, ...

Yup.

SMS Möwe

[Dezcad]

Seems like he's been arrested by police.

CALGARY – The so-called Freeman-on-the-Land at the centre of a rental dispute in northwest Calgary has been arrested by police.

Andreas Pirelli, also known as Mario Antonacci, came under fire after staking a claim on the Parkdale duplex he was renting and refusing to leave.

Check out his thumb in the picture - he must have just finished some documents!

[Hilfskreuzer Möwe]

... Check out his thumb in the picture - he must have just finished some documents!

Ha! Lovely catch Dezcad!

SMS Möwe

[JamesVincent]

Seems like he's been arrested by police.

CALGARY – The so-called Freeman-on-the-Land at the centre of a rental dispute in northwest Calgary has been arrested by police.

Andreas Pirelli, also known as Mario Antonacci, came under fire after staking a claim on the Parkdale duplex he was renting and refusing to leave.

Check out his thumb in the picture - he must have just finished some documents!

I'm glad they nabbed his keister. Now hopefully he'll have his own room courtesy of the government for awhile.

[fortinbras]

A newspaper report of Pirelli's arrest today (evidently without much struggle):

http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/09/27/ca ... est-duplex

Evidently Pirelli was doing some saber-rattling the night before:

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/calga ... story.html

and it appears that his case may generate some interesting decisions:

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Freem ... story.html

[Burnaby49]

It's not over for that poor woman yet. Squatters have moved into the duplex claiming they are "Deneza Country" indians and that by international law all lands, including her house, are now Indian land.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/09/27 ... -arrested/

[JamesVincent]

It's not over for that poor woman yet. Squatters have moved into the duplex claiming they are "Deneza Country" indians and that by international law all lands, including her house, are now Indian land.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/09/27 ... -arrested/

Quick question: What is Service Alberta?

[Burnaby49]

It's not over for that poor woman yet. Squatters have moved into the duplex claiming they are "Deneza Country" indians and that by international law all lands, including her house, are now Indian land.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/09/27 ... -arrested/

Quick question: What is Service Alberta?

Not being an Albertan I can only guess. Service Canada is the name of the federal government organization that covers a bunch of services of direct benefit to Canadians such as Canada Pension Plan, Unemployment Insurance, Old Age Security Pensions, etc. A One-Shop-Stop for various functions that used to operate separately. I'd guess that Service Alberta is the same thing, a blanket organization covering Alberta Provincial government services. The example in the article is landlord-tenant dispute which is a provincial responsibility.