Freeman-on-the-Land armed land seizure - northern Alberta
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Freeman-on-the-Land armed land seizure - northern Alberta
I just spotted this news report of an armed group identified as Freemen-on-the-Land who have seized a cabin and land in northern Alberta, and claim that they will defend that by force:
This apparently has been going on since May. I have no further data at this point. All I can say is this is, by any standard, an alarming development.
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This apparently has been going on since May. I have no further data at this point. All I can say is this is, by any standard, an alarming development.
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Re: Freeman-on-the-Land armed land seizure - northern Albert
I'm sure we could lend Canada a drone to take care of that.
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Re: Freeman-on-the-Land armed land seizure - northern Albert
Further reporting on the same story, with a few additional details:
The most interesting elements are that the land involved is Crown land, and that the Freemen are operating a pirate sawmill.
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The most interesting elements are that the land involved is Crown land, and that the Freemen are operating a pirate sawmill.
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Re: Freeman-on-the-Land armed land seizure - northern Albert
For the production of peglegs?Hilfskreuzer Möwe wrote: The most interesting elements are that the land involved is Crown land, and that the Freemen are operating a pirate sawmill.
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Phil Hart wanted to build a new house.Backo wrote:For the production of peglegs?Hilfskreuzer Möwe wrote: The most interesting elements are that the land involved is Crown land, and that the Freemen are operating a pirate sawmill.
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I thought that he was building a castle in the air....rogfulton wrote:Phil Hart wanted to build a new house.Backo wrote:For the production of peglegs?Hilfskreuzer Möwe wrote: The most interesting elements are that the land involved is Crown land, and that the Freemen are operating a pirate sawmill.
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Re: Freeman-on-the-Land armed land seizure - northern Albert
I did mention they bought up at least 300+ sections of crown land for a few measly silver coins and might defend "their" land.Hilfskreuzer Möwe wrote:I just spotted this news report of an armed group identified as Freemen-on-the-Land who have seized a cabin and land in northern Alberta, and claim that they will defend that by force:
This apparently has been going on since May. I have no further data at this point. All I can say is this is, by any standard, an alarming development.
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Re: Freeman-on-the-Land armed land seizure - northern Albert
http://www.vancouversun.com/business/fp ... story.html
RCMP have arrested a man as part of their investigation into allegations that a group of self-proclaimed sovereign citizens have taken over a trapper's cabin in northwestern Alberta.
Police say Paul Fiola, who is believed to be from Manitoba, was arrested Monday afternoon.
He faces charges of uttering threats, using a firearm in the commission of an offence and possession of a firearm while prohibited from having one.
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Re: Freeman-on-the-Land armed land seizure - northern Albert
All I can find on Mr Fiola is this article, that he (and his mother??) we're arrested in Richer, MB (does Richer have the same jokes as Biggar?) for having unsafely stored firearms and a small grow op back in 2010. Both were denied bail, which is a bit surprising on those charges so maybe some OPCA was already at work.
http://www.mysteinbach.ca/newsblog/8486.html (apologies if its a mobile link)
http://www.mysteinbach.ca/newsblog/8486.html (apologies if its a mobile link)
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Re: Freeman-on-the-Land armed land seizure - northern Albert
redbird: I've meant to say it before, but I am finding your prediction eerily interesting and accurate. Any other thoughts you can share with us?
Fmotlgroupie - very nice find! And welcome to Quatloos! Your data neatly interlinks with some posted over on JREF (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=253445&page=53) by D'rok, the Free Barbarian, who spotted:
The last item (http://www.spanglefish.com/pmf/index.asp?pageid=212458), entitled "Travel" and "Important Notice", is kind of interesting. It looks like it was a document that Fiola intended to either hand out to police officers if stopped while "traveling", or perhaps to be sent to police organizations.
The Anone Moose Facebook page has almost no public content.
I spotted a few more details about the 2010 arrest (http://mariannecurtis.wordpress.com/tag/richer/):
And look who is a member of the World Freeman Society Facebook group - "Geri Fiola". Yep, it's Mom, and here is her Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/geri.fiola). She has lots of Freeman-on-the-Land friends, including Robert-Arthur: Menard, Human Rights Defenders League in Canada guru Kent Barrett (viewtopic.php?f=47&t=9453), and our friend Dean Kory (viewtopic.php?f=47&t=9391).
A Freeman Clan! That's a little novel...
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Fmotlgroupie - very nice find! And welcome to Quatloos! Your data neatly interlinks with some posted over on JREF (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=253445&page=53) by D'rok, the Free Barbarian, who spotted:
- 1. our subject's full name is "Paul Maurice Fiola", or as he likes to call himself "Paul-Maurice: Fiola".
2. Paul-Maurice is active on the World Freeman Society forums where he operated under the alias "Prime8". D'rok has provided a search to show Prime8's posting record (https://public.worldfreemansociety.org/ ... ldforums=1). Activity dates from 2009-2010, and includes posts complaining about the RCMP and seizures - so there you go Fmotlgroupie - Fiola was definitely an active Freeman-on-the-Land at the time of the arrest you identified. Other posts by Prime8 are the typical review and analysis of Fiola's Notice of Understanding and Intent and Claim of Right materials. D'rok identifies a choice series of quotes - it's worth a peek.
3. D'rok also located a website (http://www.spanglefish.com/pmf/index.asp?pageid=207825) where Fiola has publicly posted his stereotypical Freeman-on-the-Land documents, and that links to his Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/LeetPrime8) - he operates on Facebook as "Anone Moose".
The last item (http://www.spanglefish.com/pmf/index.asp?pageid=212458), entitled "Travel" and "Important Notice", is kind of interesting. It looks like it was a document that Fiola intended to either hand out to police officers if stopped while "traveling", or perhaps to be sent to police organizations.
The Anone Moose Facebook page has almost no public content.
I spotted a few more details about the 2010 arrest (http://mariannecurtis.wordpress.com/tag/richer/):
That doesn't sound so promising.The Steinbach RCMP have arrested and charged to Richer adults after an investigation that was launched on Facebook.
According to Steinbach RCMP Corporal Sean Grunewald, the RCMP began an investigation after police were provided with information that a man had made comments on Facebook about police on his property.
“It was determined that this person was trying to buy guns through different websites,” explained Grunewald.
Further investigation revealed that the suspect did not have a license to own firearms.
Steinbach RCMP were able to obtain a warrant to entire the Richer home where six fire arms were seized. None of them were registered or properly stored. Police also found a small grow operation on the premises.
And look who is a member of the World Freeman Society Facebook group - "Geri Fiola". Yep, it's Mom, and here is her Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/geri.fiola). She has lots of Freeman-on-the-Land friends, including Robert-Arthur: Menard, Human Rights Defenders League in Canada guru Kent Barrett (viewtopic.php?f=47&t=9453), and our friend Dean Kory (viewtopic.php?f=47&t=9391).
A Freeman Clan! That's a little novel...
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Re: Freeman-on-the-Land armed land seizure - northern Albert
Risking conviction for serious gun related offensive, just to capture a hunting cabin? I hope it had cable.
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Re: Freeman-on-the-Land armed land seizure - northern Albert
It appears that at least one other member of Robert Menard's World Freeman Society is involved in the Grande Prairie land occupation. In a recent message thread (https://worldfreemansociety.org/forum/1 ... ot-freemen) on the World Freeman Society forums entitled “Not freemen”, a long standing member of the forum who uses the alias “Patrick” left the following message on Sunday:
However, there are several posts from “Bobothemonk” made today day that claim Fiola is innocent and not a freeman. Well, we know the second part of that is definitely false.
Getting back to the World Freeman Society forum "Not freemen" thread, Patrick replies in this manner to a subsequent friendly comment by bmxninja357, an Edmonton area Freeman and forum administrator:
Three days later bmxninja357 reports that he thinks Patrick has been arrested, however the news report identified as the basis for that claim appears to actually relate to Fiola, rather than Patrick.
If Patrick is indeed involved in the squat then that is a very interesting development, because this user appears to be the person who has actually been operating the World Freeman Society forum, webpage and membership; a very ‘nuts and bolts’ participant (https://public.worldfreemansociety.org/ ... mitstart=0).
Patrick’s forum signature links to a Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/WFSPatrick). It has a fair bit of Freeman copypasta, and some World Freeman Society oriented animations.
If Patrick is involved in the squat - my read of this narrative suggests that is the case - then this indicates even further high-level participation by members of Robert Menard’s group. I suspect the question is now whether Patrick reappears or not, and what he has to say when he does.
Or if we receive public reports of arrest of someone with that first name.
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This message appears to indicate that Patrick is a member of the Grande Prairie squat, and that the quoted message was posted on the Alberta Outdoorsmen Forum, presumably as a message from the squatters to the trapper community on that forum. There is indeed a message thread on that general topic at the URL identified, and it’s chock full of negative commentary concerning the Freemen squatting activities, but I do not see this particular message from the Freemen to the local trappers.I am in grande prairie, thought about coming to see you in stony
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=194030
Greetings,
We had met Denis (the trapper) previously and made known to him that we did not want to disturb his livelyhood and that we would not disturb his traplines, he was welcomed and we tried explaining how the situation came about and how he could get involved.
I could see when initially explaining it to him and indicating his recourse that he was having a hard time comprehending it. Apparently his lack of understanding turned to anger.
For the record, in the incident several days back, when the trapper returned he was armed and we (the freemen) were not. We did not take his cabin and had no intention, in fact had no idea it was there until he indicated it while making threats.
After his threats to hunt us down and kill us, we decided we would not be so friendly with him... and after reading this forum thread it is doubtful we will be as friendly as we have been in the past any more, it's a shame we met some really great trappers/hunters/campers/rig workers.
Media says we are dangerous but here you all are encouraging arson, torture and murder (all serious crimes in common-law not withstanding your legislated acts) ~wtf?
Govern yourselves accordingly.
Kindest Regards.
However, there are several posts from “Bobothemonk” made today day that claim Fiola is innocent and not a freeman. Well, we know the second part of that is definitely false.
Getting back to the World Freeman Society forum "Not freemen" thread, Patrick replies in this manner to a subsequent friendly comment by bmxninja357, an Edmonton area Freeman and forum administrator:
This is Patrick’s last post on the forum.the more stories i read put out by the press, the more i resent this government for not coming clean with the public...
or even working with freemen when we extended the offer...
if i am burned alive in the woods by mad trappers know that i cherished the friendship of freemen as much as the love of my own family
Three days later bmxninja357 reports that he thinks Patrick has been arrested, however the news report identified as the basis for that claim appears to actually relate to Fiola, rather than Patrick.
If Patrick is indeed involved in the squat then that is a very interesting development, because this user appears to be the person who has actually been operating the World Freeman Society forum, webpage and membership; a very ‘nuts and bolts’ participant (https://public.worldfreemansociety.org/ ... mitstart=0).
Patrick’s forum signature links to a Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/WFSPatrick). It has a fair bit of Freeman copypasta, and some World Freeman Society oriented animations.
If Patrick is involved in the squat - my read of this narrative suggests that is the case - then this indicates even further high-level participation by members of Robert Menard’s group. I suspect the question is now whether Patrick reappears or not, and what he has to say when he does.
Or if we receive public reports of arrest of someone with that first name.
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Re: Freeman-on-the-Land armed land seizure - northern Albert
CBC Radio posted an interview with one of the Grande Prairie area trappers whose cabin was "purchased" by a reputed Freeman-on-the-Land: http://www.cbc.ca/player/Radio/Local+Sh ... 411511623/
Sounds like a sympathetic enough chap.
Fiola is being held without bail and is scheduled to next appear in court on October 16 (http://hqgrandeprairie.com/home/local/n ... ng-dispute). I am going to be very curious to see who attends that hearing to offer support. Mr. Menard, where are you... Freeman Down! Freeman Down!
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Sounds like a sympathetic enough chap.
Fiola is being held without bail and is scheduled to next appear in court on October 16 (http://hqgrandeprairie.com/home/local/n ... ng-dispute). I am going to be very curious to see who attends that hearing to offer support. Mr. Menard, where are you... Freeman Down! Freeman Down!
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Re: Freeman-on-the-Land armed land seizure - northern Albert
You'll perhaps pardon me for stating what seems to be the glaringly, painfully obvious, but this crowd of "Freemen", don't strike me as either very smartmen, or very brightmen.
You just don't go wandering out in the back of the beyond and assume that a cabin out there doesn't belong to someone, or that the someone might get just a might twisted about you moving in on them. You certainly don't do it here, and I can't imagine it being any less sensible up north.
The other thing I find odd is that they wouldn't have figured out/known that the trapper might just not welcome them with open arms in his trapping territory since they represent not only an intrusion but possible competition into or disruption of his livelihood, or at least he would be apt to see it that way, and always assuming that what he was doing was equally legal.
I'm not sure if this is the "Crown Lands" the "indians" supposedly sold that bunch for some silver, but if it is, I'm betting that it was a case of the "indians" won this one and took the white men in the trade.
I am beginning to think we might need to add a new sub basement to the dumb scale for this crowd.
As for being "peaceful" this group isn't much sounding like it.
You just don't go wandering out in the back of the beyond and assume that a cabin out there doesn't belong to someone, or that the someone might get just a might twisted about you moving in on them. You certainly don't do it here, and I can't imagine it being any less sensible up north.
The other thing I find odd is that they wouldn't have figured out/known that the trapper might just not welcome them with open arms in his trapping territory since they represent not only an intrusion but possible competition into or disruption of his livelihood, or at least he would be apt to see it that way, and always assuming that what he was doing was equally legal.
I'm not sure if this is the "Crown Lands" the "indians" supposedly sold that bunch for some silver, but if it is, I'm betting that it was a case of the "indians" won this one and took the white men in the trade.
I am beginning to think we might need to add a new sub basement to the dumb scale for this crowd.
As for being "peaceful" this group isn't much sounding like it.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.
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Re: Freeman-on-the-Land armed land seizure - northern Albert
A further development in the Grande Prairie area squat, reported in the mainstream media (http://www.edmontonsun.com/2013/10/16/a ... court-case). Paul Fiola appeared in court on October 16, 2013 to seek pre-trial release on bail. That was denied.
A second squat member also failed to appear, “Shaunda Petrova”. She is believed to be in Manitoba. She faces charges of unlawful occupation of public land, unlawful logging, and three counts of failing to vacate public land on demand.
Now let’s see what the media did not locate.
First, Shaunda turns out to be a member of the Peace Maker Society (https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php? ... 8199033334) (http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breaki ... 45829.html) which is described in this Quatloos message thread (viewtopic.php?f=47&t=9560). In brief, this is a knockoff of the Freeman movement with a very strong anti-police perspective. I see no indication that Shaunda has formal links with the Freeman-on-the-Land community beyond that, of course, she’s hanging around with Freemen and was a member of a group with largely identical beliefs.
But then things get a little strange. ‘Cause when Shaunda is not hanging around with pot-smoking, cop-hating, chemtrail apprehensive Occupistas, she’s instead buddying up with … white supremacists?
The research scoop goes to the folks at Anti-Racist Canada (http://anti-racistcanada.blogspot.ca) who scored a double coup. First, on October 3 they poked their readers asking for data on a rumoured connection between the squat and “a former member of the Aryan Guard/Blood & Honour.” Two days later they reported the connection (http://anti-racistcanada.blogspot.ca/20 ... -land.html). The squatter, whom we now know is Shaunda Petrova, is the ex-girlfriend of Bill Noble, notable Canadian white supremacist, who in turn is an old (and seriously disgruntled) customer of Dean Clifford.
So, you’re asking yourself, gee, that seems kind of weird. What is Occupista/Hippy Shaunda doing dating a white supremacist? Well, perhaps anticipating that line of inquiry, Shaunda created and ran a blog explaining that experience and entitled “So… You’re Dating a National-Socialist”: http://banphrionsa88.wordpress.com
C’mon, give in to the temptation. Because it’s even more surreal than you think. Where else do you find an ex-lesbian pothead describe what it’s like to introduce her parents to … a person of a decidedly unusual character?
Nice score, Anti-Racist Canada. But they don’t stop there. On October 13 they post another article (http://anti-racistcanada.blogspot.ca/20 ... -near.html), this time with screenshots from Shaunda’s now deleted Facebook page (Iam Nothere) where she tracked, via video and photograph, activities at the squat throughout this summer and fall. These reveal the squat featured a full-scale construction program to build some kind of structure from lumber they cut in the immediate location with a portable sawmill.
Yep, this was much more than a casual camp-out.
Shaunda’s primary links appear to be as much to the white supremacist community as anything else. I located this webpage on the “KriegBrut” site: (http://www.kriegbrut.org/solutrea.html). The video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... ZVwTcc_Kqw) is a 28 minute long interview with Bill Noble.
The interview includes some very interesting statements:
Let’s see how long it takes the mainstream media to find this video.
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A second squat member also failed to appear, “Shaunda Petrova”. She is believed to be in Manitoba. She faces charges of unlawful occupation of public land, unlawful logging, and three counts of failing to vacate public land on demand.
Now let’s see what the media did not locate.
First, Shaunda turns out to be a member of the Peace Maker Society (https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php? ... 8199033334) (http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breaki ... 45829.html) which is described in this Quatloos message thread (viewtopic.php?f=47&t=9560). In brief, this is a knockoff of the Freeman movement with a very strong anti-police perspective. I see no indication that Shaunda has formal links with the Freeman-on-the-Land community beyond that, of course, she’s hanging around with Freemen and was a member of a group with largely identical beliefs.
But then things get a little strange. ‘Cause when Shaunda is not hanging around with pot-smoking, cop-hating, chemtrail apprehensive Occupistas, she’s instead buddying up with … white supremacists?
The research scoop goes to the folks at Anti-Racist Canada (http://anti-racistcanada.blogspot.ca) who scored a double coup. First, on October 3 they poked their readers asking for data on a rumoured connection between the squat and “a former member of the Aryan Guard/Blood & Honour.” Two days later they reported the connection (http://anti-racistcanada.blogspot.ca/20 ... -land.html). The squatter, whom we now know is Shaunda Petrova, is the ex-girlfriend of Bill Noble, notable Canadian white supremacist, who in turn is an old (and seriously disgruntled) customer of Dean Clifford.
So, you’re asking yourself, gee, that seems kind of weird. What is Occupista/Hippy Shaunda doing dating a white supremacist? Well, perhaps anticipating that line of inquiry, Shaunda created and ran a blog explaining that experience and entitled “So… You’re Dating a National-Socialist”: http://banphrionsa88.wordpress.com
C’mon, give in to the temptation. Because it’s even more surreal than you think. Where else do you find an ex-lesbian pothead describe what it’s like to introduce her parents to … a person of a decidedly unusual character?
Nice score, Anti-Racist Canada. But they don’t stop there. On October 13 they post another article (http://anti-racistcanada.blogspot.ca/20 ... -near.html), this time with screenshots from Shaunda’s now deleted Facebook page (Iam Nothere) where she tracked, via video and photograph, activities at the squat throughout this summer and fall. These reveal the squat featured a full-scale construction program to build some kind of structure from lumber they cut in the immediate location with a portable sawmill.
Yep, this was much more than a casual camp-out.
Shaunda’s primary links appear to be as much to the white supremacist community as anything else. I located this webpage on the “KriegBrut” site: (http://www.kriegbrut.org/solutrea.html). The video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... ZVwTcc_Kqw) is a 28 minute long interview with Bill Noble.
The interview includes some very interesting statements:
- 1:00 – the land was purchased by Shaunda’s friend (presumably Fiola) using “non-fiat currency, resource backed currency” and he has the paperwork to support that.
1:40 – many people have purchased land in the area.
5:45 – claims theft from the squat site.
6:40 – have received an “order to vacate” on June 7, “authoritarian figures had dropped by”, then Environment and Sustainable Resource Development officers and the RCMP gave notice to evict.
7:40 – they own the land, it is not Crown land. The government officials had to prove it was Crown land.
8:30 – the squatters could not move anyway as the encampment was too large.
9:20 – have a bill of sale and land patent for land.
9:50 – land patents are valuable and so they do not keep these with them, the land has been sold by rightful allodial owners.
10:45 – this is just confusion about who owns the land – the dispute is a government failure to properly research the question.
12:30 – the squatters do not register or insure their truck.
15:00 – when other people hear about their owning Crown land it “blows their mind”.
16:00 – dispute with trapper on ownership of land, will “charge” the trapper for land use.
17:30 – gave trappers proof of ownership of land.
18:10 – another person in the same scheme owns land in the area, does not live there (yet) but visits.
18:50 – this other person discovers a cabin on “his land”. He telephoned the trapper and told trapper that he had bought the land.
19:45 – only the trappers are hostile.
22:00 – the trappers are very, very hostile, but the squatters are peaceful pleasant folk.
23:00 – the trappers plan to engage in vigilante actions.
24:00 – Shaunda knows all about Freemen-on-the-Land and Sovereign Citizens, she’s all for that, but she is not a member of either group. Fiola associates with those groups, but categorized himself as something else.
25:15 – the squatters deny occupying or interfering with trappers' cabins.
25:45 – it’s the government of Alberta’s fault for not paying attention the squatters’ legitimate property rights.
Let’s see how long it takes the mainstream media to find this video.
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Re: Freeman-on-the-Land armed land seizure - northern Albert
What an absolute plethora of absolute crazy. Looks like I was right, someone saw them coming and took them on the buying the land thing. Ironic if nothing else, and of course now they are convinced they are in the right and so are going to be belligerent about it all, to their detriment I am sure. This just gets better and better.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.
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Re: Freeman-on-the-Land armed land seizure - northern Albert
I wonder if anyone has offered them a certain bridge in New York?notorial dissent wrote:What an absolute plethora of absolute crazy. Looks like I was right, someone saw them coming and took them on the buying the land thing. Ironic if nothing else, and of course now they are convinced they are in the right and so are going to be belligerent about it all, to their detriment I am sure. This just gets better and better.
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Re: Freeman-on-the-Land armed land seizure - northern Albert
I also know of some really good bottom land in FL and various parts of the south that are a good buy too. These look like prime seasoned suckers real estate investors to me.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.
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Re: Freeman-on-the-Land armed land seizure - northern Albert
Shaunda turned herself in (http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/ca ... 74655.html). The news report quotes a number of passages that I suspect were extracted from Shaunda's video that was previously identified.
What appears to be a statement by Petrova has also been published on the World Freeman Society Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/WorldFreemanSo ... comments=8). A lot of that repeats in general what was recorded in the video. The statement attempts to excuse the squat by saying Petrova had seen documentation that indicated Fiola actually owned the land. She denies she is a Freeman-on-the-Land. What I found particularly interesting were statements that Fiola is one of a community, and the rationale as to why he owns the land.
I'll quote this in full since it seems Shaunda has a habit of pulling things off the Internet:
I strongly suspect we have not heard the end of this.
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What appears to be a statement by Petrova has also been published on the World Freeman Society Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/WorldFreemanSo ... comments=8). A lot of that repeats in general what was recorded in the video. The statement attempts to excuse the squat by saying Petrova had seen documentation that indicated Fiola actually owned the land. She denies she is a Freeman-on-the-Land. What I found particularly interesting were statements that Fiola is one of a community, and the rationale as to why he owns the land.
I'll quote this in full since it seems Shaunda has a habit of pulling things off the Internet:
[Social Insurance Number redacted for her protection.]My name is Shaunda Petrova. I was born November 3, 1974. My Social Insurance Number is --- --- ---. I currently reside in Alberta, Canada but am previously from Manitoba, Canada and still have a permanent mailing address there.
I am here to give a statement regarding charges I have heard are alleged against me of occupying public land without authorization and willfully cut, damage, destroy, or cause to be cut, damaged or destroyed, any forest growth land without authorization under the Forest Act
I believe Paul Fiola owns the land we occupied. I have personally viewed the Purchase Agreement and Bill of Sale as well as the land patent documents. All of these documents appear to be in order and lawful contracts with all appropriate signatures and surveys done. There is no reason for me to believe otherwise.
The order to vacate.
When we received Order to Vacate No. 001/13 we explained to the men who delivered it that Paul had purchased the land. I sent an email response to Dwayne Matier Inspector, Grande Prairie Unit restating our position but also letting him know I am a practical, peaceful and reasonable person who would like to discuss this as we wanted to remain in our home. I received an email from him reiterating we need to leave and that they would be coming to confirm this.
No one came.
At the same time, the community of people who we are members of sent a communication to the Reeve, Janis Simpkin, and other government officials such as the Premier of Alberta asking that your agents cease and desist from trespassing on private land. They offered evidence of ownership and requested a response regarding the matter if there were any concerns. No one responded.
No one came to our land. No further eviction notices were delivered or emailed. The Inspector had my telephone number but no attempts were made to contact me. I believed in my heart the matter was resolved by the letter from our community leaders and we continued to conduct ourselves as two people who owned land and wanted to build a home on it.
What is failure to comply? I mean, I didn’t leave, but I did make every honourable attempt to resolve the situation. I believed I complied with the order by providing the necessary communication and information to prove ownership of the land and that the lack of response from the authorities indicated they had researched and understood the information provided and were not returning because they understood our right to be on the land Paul owns.
That is the truth I stand under.
I am sure that decision for the courts to decide will be decided in our favour when it comes to light that there are over 500 sections that have been sold by the rightful, hereditary First Nations owners to people, like us, who are peaceful human beings that only want to live on this land and enjoy its beauty.
Willfully cut, damage, destroy, or cause to be cut, damaged or destroyed, any forest growth land without authorization under the Forest Act.
I believed the issue of the ownership was resolved because the authorities never told me otherwise. And on privately owned land we have the right to cut down trees to provide shelter for ourselves or for any other use we see fit.
We are not hunting or fishing out of season. We have responsible fires and campsite. We are not doing any commercial activity. We are leaving behind the least possible environmental footprint. We study and photograph the wildlife to learn about the beautiful land we live on. We are peaceful, loving people who wish to live our private lives alone and in harmony with nature.
In fact, I have been told that upon Paul’s arrest and without any conviction our home has been destroyed. Parts of the land have been bulldozed and others have been torched. Are the people who lit part of that land on fire also being charged with willful destruction? We cut down a few trees to provide shelter for ourselves on our private property. Other people, companies and organizations plunder this land regularly but you want to make me a criminal for building a home in the forest? I’m sorry, but that just doesn’t make sense.
What this comes down to is an issue of permits to be there and that is because of the confusion over who owns the land. Peaceful people should not have to ask permission to camp longer than two weeks as indicated in section 47(1) of the Public Lands Act. And people with evidence of ownership should not be forced to vacate the land they own because a government agency has not taken the time to research or address issue of ownership.
I would like to address one last concern in my statement. The media has been calling this an issue of Freemen-on-the-Land, etc. I want it known that I am not a freeman on the land. I am a social insurance number carrying citizen whose taxes are up to date. I am not trying to skirt laws, nor do I believe I am above the law. I do not drive without a license. I don’t have a claim of right.
I am here in good faith to show that I have nothing to hide. Had I known I had charges against me or a court date on October 16th I would have attended. When I became aware I was being looked for I prepared this statement and came forward willingly to discuss and resolve this situation.
I strongly suspect we have not heard the end of this.
SMS Möwe
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Re: Freeman-on-the-Land armed land seizure - northern Albert
Media reports indicate that Petrova and Fiola appeared in court on Oct. 30, 2013 (http://www.dailyheraldtribune.com/2013/ ... d-a-lawyer).
They were granted an adjournment until Nov. 25, 2013 to retain counsel if they choose or seek legal aid assistance. Petrova stated that she will not use an OPCA defence, however Fiola claims to be a sovereign citizen.
Petrova's version on her blog, titled "A Tale of a Forest Fairy" (https://www.facebook.com/notes/iam-noth ... 8319607155), is a little more dramatic. She has this to say about the scale of the squat:
Naturally, Petrova tells a tale of procedural abuse and tyranny, and in the process shows either an intention to twist the tale, or simply that she does not understand the procedure with which she is involved:
Then there's the sinister implications of an Environment and Sustainable Resource Development officer monitoring the matter:
I am not aware to date of any other arrests in relation to these Grande Prairie area events.
SMS Möwe
They were granted an adjournment until Nov. 25, 2013 to retain counsel if they choose or seek legal aid assistance. Petrova stated that she will not use an OPCA defence, however Fiola claims to be a sovereign citizen.
Petrova's version on her blog, titled "A Tale of a Forest Fairy" (https://www.facebook.com/notes/iam-noth ... 8319607155), is a little more dramatic. She has this to say about the scale of the squat:
Interestingly she no longer claims that there never was an occupation or damage of a trappers cabin, but instead that it was not her and Fiola responsible. It was three other guys. Actually I find that plausible. Supposedly Fiola will soon issue an affidavit that explains his position. I hope it is posted online, as that would likely mean we finally get to see the mysterious title documents.We knew going in that there might be some contest about land ownership. But we are not the only ones who have purchased land there. Over 500 sections have been sold by the hereditary owners to a variety of people who agreed that for at least ten years they would steward the land and not use it for commercial gain.
Hippies, sovereigns, universe energy workers, healers, survivalists, truthers, activists, eco farmers.... we are a large group of individuals who love life and respect the world around us. We believe we can live a responsible life of peace and freedom by cultivating a community of those who agree to care for each other.
Naturally, Petrova tells a tale of procedural abuse and tyranny, and in the process shows either an intention to twist the tale, or simply that she does not understand the procedure with which she is involved:
I interpret this to mean that whenever Fiola or Petrova asked for legal advice from the judge they were told, properly, that the judge cannot do that. Instead, that information best comes from their own defence lawyer.Holy crap did I get slapped in the face with a little reality. Not that I was wrong, in fact, it reinforced my truth! They talked over both of us. They knew Paul is not getting a lawyer so they railroaded me at every turn and answered every question with "get a lawyer". I said I wasn't comfortable doing that because of the situation of my co-accused being sovereign and how could I apply for separating the charges? "Get a lawyer!" I need to get full disclosure, how can I do that? "Your lawyer will do that. Get a lawyer." They were going to remand the case two weeks so I could get a lawyer. I explained that because of my disability income my financial circumstances were such I could not find affordable accommodations in Grande Prairie and had to bus from Edmonton. And that I can only afford to do that once a month. I asked respectfully if they could remand my case until I could afford to get back as I did not wish to miss another court appearance. I was asked by the judge if he should also pay a hotel. And told that they weren't paying for my bus. I tried to explain that wasn't what I wanted or what I asked for. Simply two extra days so I got paid and could pay bus fare to get back. He told me, "Get a lawyer and they will appear for you." I told him that I could not afford one nor did I feel comfortable getting one as long as our charges were still joined. He told me at that point I needed to be there or he would issue a warrant for my immediate arrest.
In the meantime, the only charge Paul had that was indictable was dropped or withdrawn and several of his other charges were withdrawn due to redundancy. I don't know for sure but it is likely they dropped anything to do with the trapper accusations because it was put forward to them that they were barking up the wrong tree. Their main concern appears to be about the land ownership.
Everything was haywire, Paul was trying to speak on CCTV and they were ignoring him so I spoke up loudly enough it hit their mics and they had to respond as a matter of court record. He said he has not received the information he needs to apply for bail again. Or for release. I will ask him when we talk next if he got that information or application or whatever.
They put us both over to November 25 and rushed us out. No resolution whatsoever.
Then there's the sinister implications of an Environment and Sustainable Resource Development officer monitoring the matter:
Actually, no. It merely means you have managed to make you and your boyfriend into sufficiently high profile media cases that they are monitoring your activities.At one point the judge noticed a Fish and Wildlife Enforcement Officer in the court. He asked the officer what he was doing there and the crown attorney responded that he was there on Paul's matter just to keep track of things. I was worried they had found some other kind of charge and were looking to arrest me leaving court but sat there anyway waiting.
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He's the Justice and Solicitor General, Public Security Division for the Fish and Wildlife Enforcement Branch. What this says to me when they have the fish laywers, the big fish lawyers, in the room to keep track - is that they recognize there is truth to this land purchase. They are trying to protect their own fracking butts with fish lawyers and infringing on the lawful rights of peaceful human beings to try and accomplish a sinister agenda. And since it is known they have our agreements and documents and land patents they are trying to use fear tactics to get us to lawyer up, stepping into their system and setting precedent to take this land from it's rightful owners.
I am not aware to date of any other arrests in relation to these Grande Prairie area events.
SMS Möwe
That’s you and your crew, Mr. Hilfskreuzer. You’re just like a vampire, you must feel quite good about while the blood is dripping down from your lips onto the page or the typing, uhm keyboard there... [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNMoUnUiDqg at 11:25]