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Which is just a rehash of the older AVG virus. It would infect your computer and lock you out of Explorer and task manager, change your system privileges and a bunch of other nasty things. It could be brought under control painfully. Which begs another question.... is Orly getting a kickback from AV sales?
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The information released appears to be a second copy, or maybe an amended or refiled copy or something, too small to really tell from what i saw. The only thing CRO really cares about is getting enough information do hopefully distinguish one writer from another, and it usually does with as little or as much as it gets. None of it signifying anything. There is not evidence that Obama even submitted that form rather than some names body at the publishers making sure everything that needed filing hd been filed.

The book was published in July of 1995, sat dormant until 2004 when it was decided to update and reprint as he was now running for office. Which means the blurb error sat unnoticed for almost 10 years before it was caught and correct, probably about the time they filed a new copyright notice.

Big conspiracy there Orly.
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Hey -- if you are as desperate as Oily is to avoid having to go back to trolling for clients at the local district court or to having to fill cavities, you take whatever evidence of conspiracy you can get.
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fortinbras wrote:Orly's website was afflicted with malware last year. Apparently she is as slipshod about her website security as she is about her research.

This particular malware resembles "Antivirus2012" (of a couple years ago) which suddenly popped up, looking for all the world like one of the security pages already built into your own Windows system, that says "Something is wrong. Push a key to clean it out." If you do, you actually load the virus into your computer and give it a chance to sink its teeth in; thereafter your entire computer jams up with a page that pretends to show you your own internal files (not really, but the virus does manage to pick out your name and put in on a bunch of fake file names on a fake directory display) and tells you that your system is hopelessly infected and your only remedy is to click here to purchase an anti-virus program for about $30 using your credit card. Beyond that, I am not sure if paying this ransom actually gets your computer freed or what else they do to you once they have your credit card number.
A virus I foolishly "caught" that took a week to destroy had all sorts of clever security built into it. My "favorite" was the window that popped up when you tried to go to the Microsoft website telling you that you HAD to shut off your computer NOW or it would be destroyed - complete with a countdown timer with only a few seconds left on it. Hangin's too good fer 'em.
fortinbras wrote: Second, as Taitz notes, the "USA" in the space for date of birth does appear to have been printed on a different machine than the rest of the information
I just went back and looked (and yes, got the new window a few minutes later), and I'm sorry to say it isn't different. Same font, same size, minor difference between ALL the letters 'cause they were made on a typewriter with a ribbon. I don't suggest going to Orly's site, but if you search Google images for "dreams from my father copyright" there's a high res image you can paste into Photoshop and do overlays. Besides, you forgot the first rule - Orly is always wrong.
Pottapaug1938 wrote:I wouldn't trust ANYTHING which came from Oily's site.
See?
fortinbras wrote:I might add, with regard to the mystery that Taitz sees in the absence of a birthdate for Obama on this form, that if Obama had been willing to put a false birthdate on everything else, including passports, I cannot imagine why he'd hesitate about putting the same date on a Copyright form (it may be that the paperwork for the copyright registration was done by the literary agent or publisher of Obama's book, and that person didn't have his birthdate on the tip of his tongue). More than that, even the (obviously fake) "Kenyan" birth certificates being occasionally touted by birfers, Taitz included, accept August 1961 as Obama's birthdate.
When you start living a lie, you start to forget the truth. Obviously what happened here, and in a blind panic Obama typed in "USA." Happens to me all the time.
notorial dissent wrote:Big conspiracy there Orly.
Orly agrees, and has dug up this compelling evidence that Obama was really born in 1957 when his mother was 14.

Update on the press release: lack of date of birth in the copyright papers corresponds with Obama’s My space page date of birth of 1957

Posted on | January 29, 2014

Press release

Law offices of Orly Taitz

Attorney Orly Taitz recently discovered lack of necessary entry of date of birth in Obama’s registration of copyright protection of his book “Dreams from my father”.

This finding matches a number of prior reports that question Obama’s date of birth. In 2009 it was published that in his “My space” social media account Obama put his age consistent with date of birth of 1957, not 1961. This is of value as HI bceame a state in 1959 and this is another strike against Obama, as not US born and not eligible for the US presidency.

Further, accounts by Obama’s former classmate Scott Inoue and Saleah Soetoro-Sobah, former foster child of his mother Ann Dunham, show that Obama did not arrive in Indonesia in 1967, at age 6 as he claims, that he attended Noelani elementary school in HI through third grade, until 1969, on the other hand there is a record of Barry Soetoro attending Assissi school in in Jakarta during the same two years 1967-1969. So we have evidence of two separate individuals: Barry Obama residing in HI in 1967-1969 and Barry Soetoro residing in Indonesia during the same time. It appears that the person who came back to the U.S., is Barry Soetoro, not Barry Obama.

Further there is discrepancy in Obam’s account of his childhood and college years. Based on his book, “Dreams from my father” Obama lived with his parents in HI until his father left for Harvard. This is a fraudulent assertion and attempt to hide the fact that he and his mother resided in Washington state in 1961-1962, where his mother was a student in the U of WA.

Further Obama claims to study at Columbia University for two years, however student clearing house shows that he was in Columbia only for 9 months (see reports below).

We are seeing that the whole Obama life story is one big fraud and only corruption in the judiciary allows this fraud to continue.

Further, it seems that Obama regime is concerned that there may be a an unfavorable decision against Obama, that one judge was not bought, at least not yet. Recently Attorney Taitz has seen a massive hacking of her computers and her website OrlyTaitzESQ.filth. Her web site was sabotaged, readers notice redirect to other sites, crashing and freezing of their computers, even though Taitz pays for additional security through her hosting company, network solutions. This sabotage is being done in order to stop readership of her site and stop donations and advertising on the site.

As a result of this RICO activity and financial attacks, Alexa.com rating of OrlyTaitzESQ.dung went down by 90%. In Alexa.com the most visited site is ranked as #1, which is Google. Further sites go down to about 10 million and later they are unranked. OrlyTaitzESQ.yuck was ranked as 17,000, now it is ranked about 170,000. This 90% redaction shows sizable, measurable damage as a result of attacks on her in furtherance of RICO enterprise to destroy Attorney Taitz financially and silence her message.

Further, the same RICO enterprise is spreading defamatory statements in relation to Taitz in order to prevent her from obtaining legal cases and preventing her from gaining associations with other attorneys. These defamatory statements are also done in furtherance of this RICO enterprise. Lastly Attorney Taitz found sabotage through Google, where any and all defamatory statements about her are placed on the top of Google searches, while positive articles, important updates about her work are disappearing from Google searches, are being de-linked. Taitz is investigating whether someone in Google is involved in this sabotage or Google is being used without knowledge of its’ management and employees.

Public is asked to assist Attorney Taitz to fight this sabotage of her website OrlyTaitzESQ.com and assassination of her character, as well as in spreading the word in relation to the usurpation of the US presidency by Indonesian-Kenyan con-artist Obama, who is using a stolen CT Social Security number XXXXXXXXXXX [redacted by me, not Orly] and fabricated IDs.

Lastly, yesterday’s State of the Union address shows that usurper Soebarkah-Soetoro-Obama is seeking to destroy lives of millions more Americans by legalizing millions of illegals. While the government claims that we have only 11 million illegals, in reality we have many more. According to immigration research we have 30 million illegals. According to deportation officer John Samppson we have 42 million illegals.

We have 92 million Americans who are no longer in work force, dropped out of work force because they cannot find work. Another 11 million are on unemployment and 13 millon are working part ime, low wage jobs with no benefits. Under Obama 6.6 million more Americans dropped below the poverty line and over 10 million dropped out of labor force. Communities that are the most affected are minorities, young people and single mothers. Amnesty for 42 milllon illegals is pushed by a group of billionaires which is lead by George Soros, Mark Zuckerber, Bill Gates and Mike Bloomberg. These individuals de facto bribed corrupt members of Congress to join the Con-artist in Chief in the White House to commit treason against 99% of Americans and legalize an invasion of 42 million illegals. Members of the public can and have to fight back against this bribery and treason. They can and have to call each an d every member of Congress and the group of aforementioned billionaires and advise them that this bought and paid for treason is actionable, is a de facto RICO (racketeering enterprise), which can and will be fought by each and every American, by 99% of Americans that are affected. Each American can and should file withl each and every one of some 600 federal judges and request that they under 18 USC 3332 forward to federal grand jury evidence of members of Congress being criminally complicit in:

a. cover up of the usurpation of the US presidency by a citizen of Indonesia with fabricated IDs ad a stoeln SSN

2. members of Congress are criminally complicit in taking de facto bribes from a group of anti- American billionaires such as George Soros, Mark Zuckerberg and Michael Bloomberg in order to aid and abet violation of the US immigration laws and legalize an invasion of 42 million illegals and destroy the lives of 99% of American citizens.

You have two options: Option one it to fight the usurpation of the US Presidency, fraud, forgery, invasion and treason in court and demand that Judges follow their oath of office to defend and protect the US Constitution or it will lead to option two, second American Boston tea Party, Second American revolution to remove from the US Presidency the foreign usurper with fabricated IDs and remove from office and criminally prosecute corrupt and bribed members of congress, judges and others who are criminally complicit.
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Orly's way of saying "just in case I've been wrong about everything else I've been saying/theorizing/alluding to for the past 8 years:"

Law offices of Orly Taitz
"Attorney Orly Taitz recently discovered lack of necessary entry of date of birth in Obama’s registration of copyright protection of his book “Dreams from my father”.
This finding matches a number of prior reports that question Obama’s date of birth. In 2009 it was published that in his “My space” social media account Obama put his age consistent with date of birth of 1957, not 1961. This is of value as HI bceame a state in 1959 and this is another strike against Obama, as not US born and not eligible for the US presidency."

So, now he is no longer "Kenyan usurper" but a usurper from the U.S. territory of Hawaii, just at a different date than the one previously thought correct. Nevermind how this is the opposite of what she's been saying for years in many ways. So, the real problem isn't with the birf certificate and its layers and Kenya and parents who want their foreign born children to be thought to have been born in the U.S. Forget all that. Now the problem is that he was born in 1957, based on a typo on a social media website.

Riggghhhttt.
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Bovine, Flatulating wrote:"In 2009 it was published that in his “My space” social media account Obama put his age consistent with date of birth of 1957, not 1961. This is of value as HI bceame a state in 1959 and this is another strike against Obama, as not US born and not eligible for the US presidency."
Hawaii was still a U.S. territory so he would still be a U.S. citizen, yes?
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JamesVincent wrote:
Hawaii was still a U.S. territory so he would still be a U.S. citizen, yes?
In the real world, yes.

8 U.S.C. § 1405: A person born in Hawaii on or after August 12, 1898, and before April 30, 1900, is declared to be a citizen of the United States as of April 30, 1900. A person born in Hawaii on or after April 30, 1900, is a citizen of the United States at birth. A person who was a citizen of the Republic of Hawaii on August 12, 1898, is declared to be a citizen of the United States as of April 30, 1900.

However, this is where they trot out arcane outdated definitions of "natural born citizen" based on secondary sources from the eighteenth century, and come to the opposite conclusion. The truthersphere is full of guys who have no education beyond high school that are absolutely convinced by the birfers that natural born citizen means you had be born in a U.S. State, to two (not just one!) U.S. parents, between the hours of 9:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m., on an odd numbered day, when the relative humidity was below 50%.
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Barry Goldwater was born in the Territory of Arizona and this was sufficient for him to be Republican nominee in 1964.

Charles Evans Hughes was born in NY to two non-citizens (Brits) and this was sufficient for him to be Republican nominee in 1916.
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Orly's seemingly-contradictory theories hinge on the legal concept of "Hocus Pocus Smokus" or "Where's there's smoke, there's fire, so make plenty." By blowing as much smoke as possible in Obama's direction, she hopes someone with some clout will investigate, find something or other she said was right, and vindicate her.

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Yep, and her basis for this latest brainstorm is "In 2009 it was published that in his “My space” social media account Obama put his age consistent with date of birth of 1957, not 1961." She gave no link to the post, just "it was published" meaning, someone who saw it said they saw it somewhere online, and that is what Orly read. So to her bad argument one can add a couple of layers of hearsay, just for credibility.

And, just so we have something else to laugh at, she states that the absence of a birth date on a copyright document from his book corresponds to the 1957 date. Say what?

And what does it gain her to now start arguing that he may have been born in Hawaii but just in 1957 not 1961? She likely didn't do the research to find out that it wouldn't matter as far as eligibility. But why go there when it contradicts what you've posted before? A desperate "see I'm not filing frivolous cases" flurry attempt maybe - when all it does is affirm that concept.
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fortinbras wrote:Philip J. Berg has been suspended from the practice of law .... oddly, not for his birfer lawsuits but for neglecting and abandoning perfectly ordinary cases.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/149067482/SCO ... Suspension

As a direct result of his suspension from a state bar, Berg has been dumped from the US Supreme Court bar, of which he was a member.
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2014/01/29/sup ... ust-obama/
If my memory serves (I once worked up two volumes of precedent disbarment/suspension cases involving DC lawyers), the US Supreme Ct disbarment is permanent even after Berg is reinstated in the state bar. Many years ago the previous Chief Justice expressed irritation that some lawyers, not previously members of the Supreme Ct bar, were very pointedly joining it AFTER they had endured some punishment from a state bar, as if their Supreme Court membership showed they had been exonerated or were somehow totally washed of their offense. In any case, the Supreme Court does not reinstate unless/except the original State discipline is entirely invalidated (which I don't think has happened).
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It's so nice to see Phil really get credit where credit is due, even if he still claims otherwise, it was the client's fault for hiring him in the first place.
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Orly has been sending out e-mails with her "press releases" and pages and pages of "supporting documents" to radio and TV stations, hoping someone will bite. Instead, a little Sports station in Sulphur, Louisiana got angry at her spam.

Response from KEZM 1310 am radio, when they received info re Obama’s questionable documents. Please, write to the advertisers, let them know where they place their ads

Posted on | January 30, 2014
re: Copyright registration of Obama’s book provide more questions

From

kezm1310am@structurex.net

To

dr_taitz@yapoop.com

F#CK YOU STUPID COW!!!

Not how I would have put it, a bit rude and the syntax is rough, but an understandable response to megabytes of unsolicited garbage. First she fills up their inbox, then she unleashes her minions on 'em. Don't you wish it was you?

Just to be clear, I would have written something more like:

We just got your latest press release. I read it, and bet everyone here that you weren't breast-fed as a child. You have all the classic symptoms and neuroses - I host "Get Your Game On!" the afternoon sports psychology show and can spot this a mile away. Anyway, I would really appreciate a response because I could stand to make a pretty penny from a couple of guys who took me to the cleaners on the playoffs.

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There was a Senator who was famous for responding to annoying people with "Some lunatic is writing crazy letters and signing your name to them."
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fortinbras wrote:There was a Senator who was famous for responding to annoying people with "Some lunatic is writing crazy letters and signing your name to them."
Actually the story (true) was about a 1974 letter sent by the Cleveland Browns General Counsel to a lawyer who threatened the team with legal action if they didn't stop fans from flying paper airplanes during games. He claimed that the airplanes had the potential to injure him or other fans;
I am one of your season ticket holders who attends or tries to attend every game. It appears that one of the pastimes of several fans has become the sailing of paper airplanes generally made out of the game program. As you know, there is the risk of serious eye injury and perhaps an ear injury as a result of such airplanes. I am sure that this has been called to your attention and that several of your ushers and policemen witnessed the same.

Please be advised that since you are in a position to control or terminate such action on the part of fans, I will hold you responsible for any injury sustained by any person in my party attending one of your sporting events. It is hoped that this disrespectful and possibly dangerous activity will be terminated.


The succinct reply was;
Attached is a letter that we received on November 19, 1974. I feel that you should be aware that some asshole is signing your name to stupid letters.
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Keyboard/screen/drink interface warning! Larry Clayman is trying to subpoena Orly. See doc 60 here:
http://ia601702.us.archive.org/22/items ... ocket.html
It appears he's done it wrong but the error can be corrected from what I've read elsewhere.
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Now that would be a catfight worth seeing, but as Orly is known for not being able to complete a service, KKKlayman is well known for not completing anything he starts.
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Burnaby49 wrote:
fortinbras wrote:There was a Senator who was famous for responding to annoying people with "Some lunatic is writing crazy letters and signing your name to them."
Actually the story (true) was about a 1974 letter sent by the Cleveland Browns General Counsel to a lawyer ...
I heard the story before 1974 about US Sen. Stephen Young of Ohio (who left office in 1971) and have heard an earlier version about the preacher R.C. Sproul.
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fortinbras wrote:Barry Goldwater was born in the Territory of Arizona and this was sufficient for him to be Republican nominee in 1964.

Charles Evans Hughes was born in NY to two non-citizens (Brits) and this was sufficient for him to be Republican nominee in 1916.

You assume that Orly and the birthers have even a basic knowledge of presidential history such that they would know this information and would be embarrassed at the discrepancy in how they view Obama.