Any Day Now, the Dinar RV Story

[thunter]

"I suspect that Tony's followers, far from having attained an MBA, have only ever consulted the comics page of financial periodicals."

The ones I've interacted with acknowledge that under normal circumstances, the huge RV's would be impossible, but "these are not normal circumstances." They've resolved their cognitive dissonance by simply slipping into magical thinking. Thus they believe all this nonsense about the dark cabel and PTB, unimaginable (except to them) amounts of secret USD circulating in some globe spanning, conspiracy fueled, underground.

When reality sucks, they take a leap of faith into fantasy, where anything is possible and Tony Renfrow is king.

[notorial dissent]

The only way I can see one/any of Tony's followers having an MBA, is if they got it out of a Cracker Jack box, or maybe some diploma mill. Otherwise they wouldn't be swallowing Tony's bilge. The comics pages of the local supermarket rag maybe, but they wouldn't know how to read a financial paper.

So far, I haven't read any of their supposed contact claims that had more than a minimal ring of truth or reality to them.

[rogfulton]

The only way I can see one/any of Tony's followers having an MBA, is if they got it out of a Cracker Jack box, or maybe some diploma mill.

Maybe they graduated with O RLY.

[notorial dissent]

I was going to suggest that, but I don't believe Daft offers a fake degree business management, although why I don't know, they are missing out on some grift as a result.

[Deep Knight]

In this case, MBA stands for Mentally Below Average.

3-10-2014 Intel Guru TNT Tony Everything is in position and the announcement can come at any moment. There are some final things being changed, i's dotted and t's being crossed. Christine Legarde is feeling the pressure. She wants to make sure when it happens it can't come back on her. The 800's have been released to the banks and have had them for a week. UST has released and the rates locked...we should be eligible for higher rates. [When do you think this is gonna happen?] It should happen before Saturday but could be this afternoon. [You have mentioned the RV 24-48 hours before the GCR. Is that still in place?] The answer is no, it can happen at any time. Everything we are hearing is good...any moment one person could make that decision that will change our lives forever...we just don't know when she'll do it.

How many times do they need to dot them i's?

3-10-2014 Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man I AM AWAITING ACTIONS REGARDING MEETINGS HELD OVER THE WEEKEND THAT WAS REPORTED TO ME AS BEING VERY POSITIVE. I AM VERY HOPEFUL OF THIS WEEK BEING "OUR TIME".

But, but, but ... didn't you say you had landed last week?

3-7-2014 Intel Guru OKIEOILMAN …LAST THURSDAY I ANNOUNCED I HAD LANDED…SINCE THAT TIME THE BANKS HAVE HAD IN POSSESION OUR "NUMBERS" AWAITING THE ACTIVATION CODE TO BE ISSUED BY THE U.S.T….TIMING IS EVERYTHING AND WE AWAIT THAT BASED ON VERY MINOR ISSUES THAT SEEM TO ARISE DAILY AND IS RECTIFIED DAILY… HAVING RECEIVED GOOD INFORMATION IN TODAY THERE IS A POSSIBILITY (NOTHING IS FOR SURE) THAT THIS WEEKEND MAY BE OUR TIME…NO ONE HAS CALLED THE TIMING CORRECTLY AND CERTAINLY I ALSO HAVE HAD INFORMATION THAT CHANGED…SUCH A FLUID SITUATION THAT TENDS TO MAKE ONE UNAWARE OF THE SUBSTANCE AND CORRECTNESS OF THE INFORMATION FURNISHED FROM HIGH UP AUTHORITIES…

[Jeffrey]

CL (IMF LADY) PUSHED THE RV BUTTON YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AT 5 PM EST. NEW RATES TO SHOW ON FOREX AND BANK SCREENS TODAY.. WF HAS 24 TO 48 HRS TO GET IT DONE.

May 08, 2013

3-10-2014 Intel Guru TNT Tony Everything is in position and the announcement can come at any moment... UST has released and the rates locked

March 10, 2014

[LightinDarkness]

I would love to know the identity of the guy that TNT Tony always has on as his "expert insider", who he calls DC Guy. Clearly its someone who is a fellow conman, but DC Guy is different than Tony because he has an ability to drop geopolitical events to explain away every dinar delay. He acts like someone in some room is hovering their finger over the RV button, and then every time any international news happens (like Russia/Ukraine) someone runs screaming into the room saying STOP DONT PUSH THE RV!

Hes an exquisite BS peddler, and Tony's followers are so stupid they fall for it. He told them in December 2013 that Iraq had RVed and had lower denomination dinars in circulation (1 unit notes vs 25,000 unit notes) - and when asked for pictures he said he couldn't provide any because his source would get put in trouble. Yeah, a country is circulating a lower denomination note country wide and no one can take a picture of it? How stupid are Tony's followers?

[Jeffrey]

I heard the RV was delayed because the person with the 800 numbers died in the Malaysian plane crash. The Chinese shot down the plane to delay the RV.

[Deep Knight]

I heard the RV was delayed because the person with the 800 numbers died in the Malaysian plane crash. The Chinese shot down the plane to delay the RV.

According to Orly, it was Obama done it to cover up his place of birth or Social Security number.

[The Observer]

I heard the RV was delayed because the person with the 800 numbers died in the Malaysian plane crash. The Chinese shot down the plane to delay the RV.

According to Orly, it was Obama done it to cover up his place of birth or Social Security number.

But I heard it was done by the Vietnamese, who were jealous that the Dinar was RVing first before the Dong. So they shot down the plane that had the White Dragon envoy on board who had the vital paperwork for the RV. This was their way of sending a clear message to the Chinese that they better stop the Dinar RV.

[LightinDarkness]

Another news report showing how the Dinar is a scam:
http://whnt.com/2014/03/10/tuesday-is-i ... nt-a-scam/

This news network is actually doing a series of stories, which is interesting since they are usually "one and done." Of course, over on the dinar message boards posters have decided this is evidence that the RV is imminent since the Dark Cabal is clearly trying to stop people from buying dinars and getting rich.

[Deep Knight]

For the "Negative Nellies" who told us the Dinar is a Scam-Emailed to Recaps
11/03/2013

Do you have anyone in your life that told you investing in Dinar is a scam? Just show them this!

We've all heard from someone that investing in the dinar is a scam:

If there is a scam going on, it is the dream stealers trying to rob you of hope. In actuality, they are missing out on the blessings that come with dream building with one's spouse. That alone is very rewarding, and very telling, into how well two soulmates are really thinking on the same page.

If there is a scam going on, it's the US govt, Iragi govt and UN holding back info ... delaying ... the invitable. But post RV/RI you'll be praised for your insite into this investment by the nay-sayers. (Hindsite investors).

You want an example of a scam? Play the lottery. The odds of winning are astronomically against you. That scam plays on the hopes of the un-informed, or desperate, seeking great rewards without understanding the odds. Governments make unimaginable dollars preying on lottery ticket buyers.

Whereas investing in the dinar, we can attempt to track international politics and become somewhat educated on our investment. We are talking the currency of a resource rich country torn by a former dictatorship, war and civil unrest.

In time, this RV/ RI will happen. Maybe not when we expect it, and maybe not in the manner we expect it, but the value of the Iraqi dinar will rise.

And eventually, we will see our financial rewards. But with the lottery, as those little balls keep tumbling, the odds of winning never get any better, and you never gain any additional insight on what numbers to pick, and you have to keep buying more tickets for a fresh "chance to win."

We've all heard it's risky:
Bunk. The most you can lose in dollars, is the amount invested, and that is only if you actually lose your dinar. That is right ... if you misplace the currency. After all, dinar dealers have a buy-back policy, right?

Does your financial planner or 401K manager have such a policy? 'Fraid not.

You want to talk risky? Buy into the stock market, without educating yourself. And what can you really learn from a prospectus? And remember, most financial planners are commissioned salespersons. Ask them if they make their living on their commissions, or on the results of the products they invest their clients money into. You'll be shocked by this scam.

Let's say you timed the market well, and bought General Dynamics a year ago at about $35/share. And now it is about double that. Forget trading fees, ... you doubled. So if you had purchased 5 shares, for $175, you would now have ~$350. Remember these numbers. Double your money in the stock market ... but limited realization in terms of dollars gained, but the limited number of dollars invested initially. 100% rate of return in one year.

How about SSI? Counting on this for retirement supplement, now that's another risky government scam. 'Nuff said.

How about Real Estate? Let's compare it to purchasing dinar. Build a spec-house for 200,000 and try to market it for 300,000. That is a 2:1 ratio. Or buy a foreclosure house. Say EFMV $150,000 purchased at auction for $100,000, plus holding costs and closing costs, so max realized gain is maybe $50,000 - again a 2:1 ratio.

But you may hold longer than anticipated, (more expense) and lower your selling price and only make $25,000 - now you’re at a ratio of say 5:1. That is saying that for every $5 invested, you only made $1.

If in the example, you are upside down in real estate, you've invested 150,000 and got out at 125,000. Now you have lost $25,000. Now compare that to the dinar. In the dinar, you only risk what you invest, and to that I take you back to Dinar Dealers buy-back policy. Further, you did not have to start with a $100,000 investment to try to gain $50,000.

How about buying an estate property below EFMV, and needing to sit on it for three years before reselling it. Even if a profit is gained, the rate of return annualized needs to be divided by three. And was there a positive or a negative cashflow on that property for the three years you held it?

Again, compare that to the dinar. The only argument against the dinar here is that the amount invested was stagnant while you held it.

And if you had the amount of your dinar purchase in a CD right now, could you get 2% return? I doubt it. And to get 2% you're probably looking at a 5 year hold. 'Nuff said.

We've all heard negative news soundbites:
The few soundbites I've heard were so trite, they were laughable. That's not journalism ... it's sensationalism, not credible research. It's been the blind leading the blind.

What about how long we have to wait for the RI to exchange.
If you are in an employer based retirement system, how long do you have to work, in terms of years, before you become retirement eligible? And what kind of return do you get? Do you know how to track it? Have you done your homework there? Now that might be a risky investment ... a lifetime

Oh, you don't have an employer based retirement system? Okay. Then look into your Roth or traditional IRA or other "paper assets" in your portfolio. What did you say? You don't have a portfolio? Or did I just hear you say your portfolio was cut in half in the past two years, as well as your annual earnings? Wow. That was a risky investment, ... very risky.

We've all heard it's an pyramid scheme:
Go to work tomorrow to your JOB (just over broke). I'm all for capitalism. I believe in rewarding those that take the calculated risks, those that create jobs for others, those that stabilize local economies. But when you look at the company ladder, well, there is your pyramid at it's best.

There are the nay-sayers that say the only ones making money on the dinar are the sellers, such as CBI and dinar dealers. Well, time will reveal the truth on that point of contention.

So let's talk dinar.

100,000 dinar mailed overnight from dinar dealers is approximately $140, + 24 UPS fee, + $1 for the money order = $165 invested. This is a relatively small amount to invest in anything.

Presently the rate is $1=1170 IQD, or $0.0008547/dinar (less than 1/10th cent per dinar). But with shipping, etc, ~= $0.000165 (a trifle above 1/10th cent per dinar.) So we'll call it $0.001 = 1/10th cent per dinar.

If/when there is an Re-V/I/D, look at the numbers. We've heard lows of 1IQD at $0.86 to highs of $3.86.( or much higher) For easy math, I'm just using RV at 1 IQD = $1. That means you $165 investment is now worth $100,000, pretax.

Okay, you'll have some expense to exchange ... minimal in big scheme, but may take your total investment to say $500. So you turn $500 into $99,500 (pretax).
You did not have to risk investing 1,000,000 to make a potential 100,000, or $125,000 to make $25,000.

Better yet, you were not excluded from the opportunity to make this $100,000 because you lacked the $1,000,000 in cash or credit to invest.

And if the increase in the dinar on the currency exchange boards is a gradual float, and not a spike from an RI (not saying this is likely) you will have to decide for yourself when to cash in. But in this scenario, all it needs to do is increase to 1 IQD = 1 penny, and you have a ten fold return on investment, grossing $1000 on a $165 investment. Have your financial planner or realtor or banker deliver that return! Not gonna happen.

Still skeptical? Stay with the gradual float. At a dime, cash in on 25,000 dinar note. Gross $2500 - $165 + fees and tax so say you clear $2000 How is that for a rate of return? Initial investment of $165, net $2000, but n0pot done yet ... still holding 75,000 IQD and you're "playing with house money." The rate of return calculated on any gain, is infinite ... because you already made more than your initial investment on the first cashout.

Now who cares if you have to wait a few years for a float to reach $3.00+. So $3.22 x 75,000IGD = $241,500 (pretax) is pure profit. Understand i am not an advocate of a gradual float, and favor an RI, but wanted to include it in this post, for the negative nellies to chew on as a worst case scenario. I'll take that return!

Compare the dinar to CDs. No comparison.

Compare the dinar to IRAs/MFs/stocks/bonds, etc. No comparison

Compare the dinar to the lottery. No comparison. How can I say that? In the lottery, the numbers predicate the number of winners, typically one, if any per drawing. But with the dinar, all that exchange are winners. Thus, again I say, no comparison.

Compare the dinar to real estate. I've had great returns and can even mathematically show you infinite rates of return, but for the vast majority of people, real estate transactions returns vs the returns on the dinar investment, well ... no comparison. Further, how many across the globe are in trouble financially as we speak, because they thought their home was their biggest asset, only to now realize that their mortgage and over-leveraging is eating them up, both financially, and emotionally.

Compare the dinar to pension plans. Took you 20, 25, 30, 35, etc years of your life, and you can only receive pension payments as alloted, under someone elses discression. So, ... no comparison.

I'll conclude with these thoughts.

For the negative nellies that say you were scammed when you bought into the dinar investment, with the $165 they did not invest, they may have purchased them something else. Lets say they bought dinner and a movie for two, or some clothes they'll only wear a few times ...

So when your investment is eventually worth (Example only) $99,500 pretax, I hope they enjoyed the dinner, movie and clothes that now cost them ~ $99,500.

And I'm not done yet. Let's say you pay your taxes and tithes, and then pay off your remaining mortgage, freeing up that $650/mo payment for the next 180 months of your life. Look at how much "not buying dinar" now cost the negative nellies.

So I'm willing to give up a night out with my wife and new shoes. In fact, the reward potential in my household said ... what else can we postpone pre RV/RI, ... to not have to postpone life any longer?

If you followed all the way through this post, thanks for reading. I needed to vent. I needed to take the frustrations of listening to negative vibes and multiply that with negative reasoning, to produce a positive outcome.

[Fmotlgroupie]

Awesome! Definitive proof that everything other than high yield investment scams is a scam!

[LightinDarkness]

Wow, TNT Tony's latest conference call has the highest amount of callers planted that I've ever seen. He really needed to jack up the hopium, I think. There was caller after caller all saying the same types of things like:

- "Investing" in the dinar and riding the hopium train was all just learning how be a multimillionaire.
- Investing in the dinar (via Sterling, of course!) felt "just right" and the caller "just knew" Tony was honest and knew what he was talking about.
- Half a dozen bank stories that were just 100% made up about wealth managers calling people and telling them that if they owned a few million dinar or dong to set up a trust since the RV was soon!
- Per usual we are done done done, all call centers staffed, Christine Lagarde is personally hovering her finger over the RV button, etc.
- My personal favorite, a call plant that got fired but didnt file for unemployment because the RV is so soon.

I haven't seen Tony pump this much hopium in months, his membership must be dropping. Also, about every other caller just happened to mention how much they loved Tony and how they had donated to show their support

[Deep Knight]

*** Iraqi dinar, recently being said *** / Okie_Oil_Man
The Rumor Mill News Reading Room

Hi, Folks -
Found at http://www.dinarpoopoo.com - several dinarians are saying approximately this same thing:
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3-14-2014 Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man FROM INFORMATION RECEIVED DURING THE DAY TODAY IT APPEARS AS THIS WILL BE THE LAST WEEKEND FOR YOUR FINANCIAL CONDITION TO BE IN IT'S CURRENT POSITION. I FULLY EXPECT THIS WILL BE OUR WEEKEND TO RECEIVE OUR BLESSING.- GONNA SLEEP LIKE A BABY TONIGHT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A LONG TIME----WHEW--WHAT A RELIEF- BEEN A LONG TIME COMING HASN'T IT?

Posted by John MacHaffie at 11:11 AM 0 comments

Last weekend their financial condition will be in its current position? Is OKIE hinting that many of his followers will be declaring bankruptcy soon?

[JennyD]

Wouldn't it be funny if everyone eventually found out that Okie and Tony and the rest of the guru's and McHaffie himself were all in the same halfway house?

[DailyPlanet]

"Presently the rate is $1=1170 IQD, or $0.0008547/dinar (less than 1/10th cent per dinar). But with shipping, etc, ~= $0.000165 (a trifle above 1/10th cent per dinar.) So we'll call it $0.001 = 1/10th cent per dinar.

If/when there is an Re-V/I/D, look at the numbers. We've heard lows of 1IQD at $0.86 to highs of $3.86.( or much higher) For easy math, I'm just using RV at 1 IQD = $1. That means you $165 investment is now worth $100,000, pretax..."

Haha!
All the bogus calculations in the world do not change the fact that:
Nothing is going to cause the Dinar to revalue by a dramatic amount - HOW COULD IT?

There is absolutely no fundamental reason why it should revalue

You are just blowing smoke up your own ars3.

[Pottapaug1938]

"Presently the rate is $1=1170 IQD, or $0.0008547/dinar (less than 1/10th cent per dinar). But with shipping, etc, ~= $0.000165 (a trifle above 1/10th cent per dinar.) So we'll call it $0.001 = 1/10th cent per dinar.

If/when there is an Re-V/I/D, look at the numbers. We've heard lows of 1IQD at $0.86 to highs of $3.86.( or much higher) For easy math, I'm just using RV at 1 IQD = $1. That means you $165 investment is now worth $100,000, pretax..."

Haha!
All the bogus calculations in the world do not change the fact that:
Nothing is going to cause the Dinar to revalue by a dramatic amount - HOW COULD IT?

There is absolutely no fundamental reason why it should revalue

You are just blowing smoke up your own ars3.

The only thing which I think might happen is that we might wind up with a rate of $1 USD to 1.17 Iraqi dinars -- but it won't be the IQD. It will be something like the "NID", or New Iraqi Dinar, in which 1000 old (IQD) dinars equal 1 New Iraqi Dinar -- in other words, three zeros get lopped off of the denomination. Soooooo -- your 1 Million IQDs will now be 1000 NIDs -- still worth the same, and still almost unsaleable.

By the way, that currency dealer in Boston who sold some poor schmuck $6000 worth of IQDs, after advising him of his risk, does NOT have a "buyback policy" like Tony says. IF they are willing to buy IQDs, they will do so only at a heavily discounted rate. But then, what are facts when you have a scam to push?

[notorial dissent]

At this point, it is kind of a question of whether or not the current Iraqi regime makes it to the new year once the US completely pulls out. I'm betting the odds makers are not giving them good odds. At which point I'm betting the current IQD will achieve what it has been working at for a while and reach .0000 all told, when the new regime takes over and repudiates everything their predecessors did.

[Alcibiades]

March 18, 2014
CNN Kevin Trudeau, the television pitchman and author who amassed a fortune telling consumers his secrets about how to get free money, how to lose weight and how to cure a number of illnesses the natural way, is headed to federal prison.

Trudeau, 51, was sentenced to 10 years on Monday for criminal contempt for violating a 2004 federal court order that prohibited him from making misleading infomercials and misrepresenting his weight-loss books. During Monday's sentencing hearing he also got a tongue-lashing from U.S. District Judge Ronald Guzman, according to the U.S. attorney's office in Chicago.

"Since the age of 25, (Trudeau) has attempted to cheat others for his own personal gain," Guzman said in Monday's sentencing hearing.

In a sentencing memo, prosecutors called Trudeau an "unrepentant, untiring, and uncontrollable huckster who has defrauded the unsuspecting for 30 years."

I am not familiar with the specifics of the federal statute(s) that this gentleman broke, but some of his activities seem not dissimilar to Tony's Dinar peddling. A kindred spirit in the Big House, perhaps?