Any Day Now, the Dinar RV Story

[notorial dissent]

JennyD, no apologies necessary. This is precisely the reason these people are such scum as far as I am concerned. They are criminals, but criminals of a level of surpassing vileness that is just inexcusable.

[JennyD]

JennyD, no apologies necessary. This is precisely the reason these people are such scum as far as I am concerned. They are criminals, but criminals of a level of surpassing vileness that is just inexcusable.

thanks Notorial, I was just really affected by this poor woman and her plight, and I wish I could have done more to help her, hopefully the criminal process will work to her advantage and she will be able to get some of the money back that she lost through this scam.

Just brought me to tears..

[notorial dissent]

Since my feelings about these people are largely unprintable, I won't, but that women is exactly the reason for them. At least you got her to take the first steps in filing the criminal complaint, and maybe hopefully some DA will feel the same way and go after the part(y)s involved and start a trend.

[LightinDarkness]

As has been said, no need to apologize JennyD - although I've always said you have to be insanely gullible to buy into the dinar scam, its still wrong to take advantage of desperate people. Its even worse when they scam these people who have nothing out of their last dollars to buy dreams of becoming a millionaire from the mythical RV.

Speaking of dinar scammers, I think there have been a lot of people selling back their dinars to dealers - way more than normal. I say that because TNT Tony went out a 30 minute long rant on his latest conference call about how there is a massive conspiracy by people trying to get dinar believers to sell back their dinar. His target today was the owner of http://www.baghdadinvest.com, a guy who does real investing in Iraq and started debunking dinar gurus because he got tired of all the questions he got about the mythical dinar RV. It was hysterical, Tony claimed (and by claim, I mean lied) that he had the "FBI investigate him" and that the owner of baghdadinvest.com is really a huge dinar "investor" and just doesn't want all of the dinarians to get rich.

Sounds like there have been enough sell-backs to Sterling Currency that they told Tony to do something about it

[thunter]

I think Tony has run out of excuses and is setting up with all his rhetoric about the PTB not wanting him to do conference calls, to disappear. He keeps hinting about "last calls," etc. He has backed himself into a corner with no way out. So I wouldn't be surprised if he exits in a blaze of glory that somehow if he goes silent it will make the RV happen quicker.

[Deep Knight]

Thursday, April 3, 2014
April 2nd, For Legal Reasons I had to Pull Tonight’s Radio Program

Posted on April 2, 2014 by Dave Schmidt
Tonight’s radio program created a firestorm. For legal reasons I had to pull it off the air. Attacks, lies and threats to lives have taken place, here’s my statement!
When you choose to stand for the truth and want to do what you beliive is best for others, you will always attract a corresponding response.
But in the end the truth always wins out, and the truth will always set you free.
I had invited a special guest to be on the program tonight, Okie, who is posted on a regular basis on the dinar blogs. I talked with him after the program and he is going to make his own statement to be posted on the blogs sites. But what I stated is true, he was going to come on the air but his life was threatened. I will let his statement stand for itself.
For legal purposes I had to remove tonight’ radio program from the air. I stand by all statements made about the authenticity of who was on the air and what they represent. PIF and others are for real and the RV is about to be released. I wish I could say more, but for legal and confidential reasons I cannot.
The people I talked with have been cashed out and others are currently being processed. The representative I had on the program is for real and he has been processing private transactions for months. Some are attacking the truth of those statements. In the near future the truth will come out regarding those who want to attack. Those who choose to trust will benefit from the higher rate.
People will choose to believe what they want. People will choose their perceptions based on what they want to believe. In the end truth always brings out the quality of character within us. Those who choose to attack reveal what’s really happening within them.
I can’t make you believe one way or the other, the choice is always yours. All I can say is our real truth and character comes out when we are near the finish line. Some will put their own noose around their own necks, some will create their own forms of sabotage. Some will benefit and grow because they choose to stand with truth and not attack. In the end truth always wins.

Thanks for understanding…….Dave!!!

Posted by John MacHaffie at 9:46 AM

[Pottapaug1938]

So Okie's life was threatened? I'll bet his wife did the threatening, on the order of "if you waste any more of your time or OUR money on that RV cr*p, I'll blow your head off!"

[rogfulton]

People will choose to believe what they want. People will choose their perceptions based on what they want to believe.

and

I can’t make you believe one way or the other, the choice is always yours. All I can say is our real truth and character comes out when we are near the finish line.

We couldn't have said it better if we had planted the text ourselves!

[Gregg]

I think Tony has run out of excuses and is setting up with all his rhetoric about the PTB not wanting him to do conference calls, to disappear. He keeps hinting about "last calls," etc. He has backed himself into a corner with no way out. So I wouldn't be surprised if he exits in a blaze of glory that somehow if he goes silent it will make the RV happen quicker.

Tony's exit strategy has long been written, he has been charged with running a multi million dollar HYIP-Autosurf called 14 daily pro (a cheap rip off of 12 daily pro, go figure) in Federal Court in Kansas. His trial has tribbed and ebbed along for over a year at least, and these things tend to in the real world, but in less than a year Tony is going to be getting free room and board from the BOP.

[Gregg]

So, people have been cashing out already? People YOU personally know?
Why don't these people take their new millions and buy Billions, hell Trillions more dinar for 1166 for a dollar? They could buy Neptune with the potential money to be made, and whats more, I think they owe it to the Dinaridgit community to exert upward demand pressure on the dinar to let some of the Tier XII people at least cash out at break even levels before their holdings collapse the dinar market which could lead to panic selling of double wides nation wide!

[texino]

Are we on the brink of an outbreak of mass hysteria? Whether or not it really happens will depend on the number of people who are truly engaged in the fantasy. The fact that the Dinarians are all connected to the speedy internet gives rise to the possibility of some guru's group deciding to take action. What I find bothersome is the seeming lack of any official organ putting out the word that this whole RV thing is a humbug. Sure the Q has said plenty and said it well, but I do recall the Gov. posting web sites in the past warning of various and sundry hoaxes.

I wonder if anyone here has a reliable estimate of the number of folks who are dangerously deep into the elusive RV?
Thanks, Texino

[The Observer]

I wonder if anyone here has a reliable estimate of the number of folks who are dangerously deep into the elusive RV?

I did a count, using all available Dinar, Dong, White Dragon, NESARA, Erasmus and RV sources, and have concluded that there at least 70 trillion people that have bought "deep" into the various prosperity packages. another 55 trillion who are at the "knee-high" level and another 180 trillion who are "shallow" investors. I know some people will acuse me of pulling these figures out of some nether region in my lower body, but my trusty Illuminati calculator (running on free-energy batteries, no less!) does not lie. Well, it lies, but that is why we in the Illuminati have these calculators, otherwise our operations would shut down like a paralyzed falcon in mid-flight when people realized that 2 + 2 really does = 5. Besides, I don't think it is fair that the Dinarians/RVers/NESARians get to make up crazy figures while the rest of us have to have some sort of proof and mathematical basis for our claims.

For those who didn't get sidetracked by my rant, it will be very apparent to you that the numbers of people involved in the RV are very close to the numbers that the gurus out there are promising will be paid out. My trusty Illuminati calculator reveals that the final RV payout will mean that investors are going to realize a 1 for 1 RV!

[Deep Knight]

I wonder if anyone here has a reliable estimate of the number of folks who are dangerously deep into the elusive RV?

I can't say how deep they are into it or how dangerous, but here are the latest domestic numbers of "investors" off our NSA database:

Holding IQD - 3,250,001
Holding & fondling IQD - 391,462
Using IQD for wallpaper - 1,894
Using IQD for toilet paper - 6
Institutional investors - 102,655
Institutionalized investors - 970,043
Dragon families and Tong societies (with US holdings only) - 34,210

If you're interested, we have GPS locations for all the large buried locations, and right now is a good time to go dig them up, if you know what I mean. Meet me down by the old mill stream at midnight, bring a shovel and a shotgun.

[LaVidaRoja]

Who's bringing the torches?

[LightinDarkness]

I spend a lot of time observing the dinar RV community, mostly via listening to calls while working, and I would guess that there are probably 250,000 people who both own dinar *and* are active in the dinar community. I guess that number because TNT Tony's website has had up to 30k users on it who signed up and hes able to generate 200k+ twitter followers tweeting about the myth that "the elites" are cashing out.

However, I think the number is shrinking and is less now than it has ever been before. From what I can tell reading TNT Tony's forum and listening to the Q&A session he does, most people who invest in the dinar tend to be financially desperate. As the numbers of people facing foreclosure, bankruptcy, etc. from the Great Recession fades the need to "invest" in scams like the RV will fade. Additionally, Tony has recently begun each call with a rant about mythical "government agents" that are trying to get people to sell back to the dealers. Since Tony shills for Sterling Currency who has a buy-back policy to give the illusion of security, I think they were getting too many buy-backs and told him to make up something to put a stop to it.

[LightinDarkness]

Some of the callers on TNT Tony's shill conference call are just tragic. On the Friday call there is a women who called and said:

(1) She is homeless, but isn't worried because she spent her last bit of money to buy more dinar and dong.
(2) Her daughter and her six children are also about to be homeless, but she isn't worried because she knows her blessing is coming soon.
(3) Shes tried to talk to bankers to open bank accounts but she gets laughed out of the bank when she tells them she has no money now but will be a millionaire after the RV.
(4) No attorney or accountant will help her do her wealth planning once she reveals she homeless now but will be filthy rich after the RV.
(3) She broke into tears telling Tony how special he was and that he was a messenger from God about their blessing.

And how did Tony respond to all this? He told her it would be OK and that she wouldn't have to worry soon because she and her daughter would be rich within a few days. He then told her that once the mythical RV happens she should go into the banks and laugh at the people who told her the RV was a myth.

This is exactly why I believe that - if there is a hell - people like Tony belong in its deepest and darkest depths. Here is someone who is homeless who spent her last dollars to buy more worthless currency on the basis of Tony telling her it will RV when it NEVER will, and instead of telling her to sell back that worthless currency and buy some food he tells her to hold on because the mythical RV is soon. He is in all ways a scumbag and piece of trash.

[Alcibiades]

Here is someone who is homeless who spent her last dollars to buy more worthless currency on the basis of Tony telling her it will RV

Yes, truly an abominable human being who, given his apparent indifference to other people's suffering, has to be well and truly up there on the sociopathic scale.

if there is a hell - people like Tony belong in its deepest and darkest depths.

As a fraudster, it should place him neatly in the 8th circle in Dante's vision of the Inferno, the second worst of the nine. This circle is divided into 10 Bolgie or stony ditches connected by bridges. Bolgia 8, reserved for evil counselors and advisers, would seem to be the ideal spot for Tony, but there is also Bolgia 10 for falsifiers whose activities amount to a plague on society. Fittingly, the denizens of this locale are themselves eternally afflicted with various horrible diseases. Sounds reasonable.

[JennyD]

Some of the callers on TNT Tony's shill conference call are just tragic. On the Friday call there is a women who called and said:

(1) She is homeless, but isn't worried because she spent her last bit of money to buy more dinar and dong.

And how did Tony respond to all this? He told her it would be OK and that she wouldn't have to worry soon because she and her daughter would be rich within a few days. He then told her that once the mythical RV happens she should go into the banks and laugh at the people who told her the RV was a myth.
.

We've been getting more and more of these people at work that are claiming we're one of the agencies holding up their riches, I keep having to tell them in a calm tone that there is no RV and they've been had, and they should file criminal charges to get restitution, but some of them are just convinced i'm feeding them disinfo and OkieOilMan and TonyTNT are gods and know the "real" truth.. it's quite sad really... I go home at night and hug my daughters and cry over this..

[JennyD]

So Okie's life was threatened? I'll bet his wife did the threatening, on the order of "if you waste any more of your time or OUR money on that RV cr*p, I'll blow your head off!"

I honestly don't think people like Okie spent their "own" money on this scam they spent OPM (Other People's Money) in the grand tradition of scamming..

[Deep Knight]

Tuesday, April 8, 2014
Post RV Checklist

1. ______Change your number, make sure the new number is unlisted. If you don’t, every Tom Dick and Harry will be knocking down your door when they find out about your new circumstances.
2. ______Contact an attorney that specializes in taxes and trust accounts.
3. ______Set up your family trust(s).
4. ______Contact your bank(s) and set up POD accounts.
5. ______Do not deal with banks that have derivatives and hedge funds.
6. ______Set up CDARS accounts.
7. ______Pay off ALL debt.
8. ______Fix everything that needs repair.
9. ______Upgrade your personal, home, auto and umbrella insurance.
10. _____(Consider ransom insurance too!)For your family/children
11. _____Set aside enough liquid funds for you to survive for 2-3 years. This should account for every expense you have on a monthly basis – don’t go short!
12. _____Invest in precious metals (like gold & silver or Rare Earth Metals).
13. _____Go to seminars to learn to make money through SMART investments.
14. _____PAY YOUR TAXES!
15. _____Pick your friends wisely.
Someone will be “watching you” so you’ll want to do the following: .... Read and Heed
1. ______ Be very low key (nondescript).
2. ______ Don’t flaunt your newly obtained wealth.
3. ______ Open up a secure Email address.
4. ______ Get a new cell phone number; cancel the old one.
5. ______ Get a P.O. Box
6. ______ Put a security system in your house.
7. ______ Install high security Medco bolt locks, and a heavy duty safe.
8. ______ Install reflective film on your home windows.
9.______ Consider building a safe room.
10._____ Get training in self-defense / firearms.
11. _____Use PGP (or better) encryption on your computer and Email.
12. _____Don’t trust anyone … keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

Do's and Don’ts on Windfall Wealth (Robert NH): Treat it like a Powerball win

_____- Tell no one, not even family. If you must talk, do so with one who is already in the know.
_____- Don’t run out & buy new “stuff”. People notice.
_____- Get an unpublished number and give it out very sparingly.
_____- Get a tax accountant you can trust to make sure the IRS is satisfied (Certified Opinion is something to look into) and pursue asset protection.
_____- Move slowly (e.g. change of car, address, furnishings). People notice.
_____- If you are going to stay where you are look into fire/burglar protection. They have all sorts of extras nowadays and you do not have to advertise them or for them.
_____- Get identity theft protection. There are several companies out there – check them out, ask for preferences from those who have it.
_____- Reduce and remove debt. Stay on top of your credit report. I don’t believe in paying these outfits to check regularly. An identity theft protection company should be able to tell you if someone accesses it or affects it – Life Lock.
_____Remember – once out your phone & mail will be swamped with requests for money and “offers”. Friends and relatives you never knew you had will show up at your door with a “problem”. You will get swamped with charity “membership renewals”, calendars, cards, tokens, key rings, etc. all with donations in mind. Giving comes from the heart..
_____Make sure taxes are paid and be aware of future tax liabilities incurred from your investments.
_____For information on what to go with, invest with, work with, be diligent. Check it out. Ask those who also have wealth.
_____Never, ever make a major decision on the spot. That boat, car, house, etc. is not going to go away while you sleep on the decision. Additional Suggestions
_____ 1. Use a P.O. Box instead of a physical address.
_____ 2. Get a woven stainless steel wallet, and passport folder. stronghold I.D..com or
_____ 3. Aluminum water-resistant wallet
_____ 4. Change your daily routines.
_____ 5. If you move, don't make an address change @ the DMV.
_____ 6. Concealed weapons permit.
_____ 7. Reputations.com (erase personal information on the internet). Quit social networking.
_____ 8. For those getting or building new homes...SAFE ROOMS! SECURITY and SAFETY MEASURES

_____ 1. E-MAIL SECURITY: Open a secure e-mail address. Here are some website ... charge for their services, but they are worth it. Just remember when you use such a service that that are 3 kinds of e-mail:
_____ * Un-encrypted -viewable and storable by the world (travels through the Internet).
_____ * Encrypted e-mail with password - requires that the receiver knows the password you have set to be able to read the e-mail. Travels over the Internet encrypted.
_____ * Encrypted e-mail that requires that the receiver has an account with the same secure e- mail company you are using. This e-mail never is transmitted to other e-mail servers on the Internet. Web based and often off shore. Very secure.
_____ Please note that even secure encrypted e-mail can be compromised if your computer has been infected with a Key-Logger.
_____ Please note that you must be sure that all other firewalls and antivirus software is uninstalled before you install the above anti-virus and firewall recommendations. Hope this helps.
_____ 2. HOME SECURITY:
_____ Install a security system in your house.
_____ Install high security Medco bolt locks.
_____ Consider installing a heavy-duty safe in your home or building a "safe room". I plan on having a hidden safe like what is available through this company.
_____ Install reflective film on your home windows.
_____ 3. INSURANCE:
_____ Upgrade your personal, home, auto and umbrella insurance to the highest amount they are willing to sell to you.
_____ For example: if they offer $1 million on your vehicle, get it. It can be a first line of defense in the event someone tries to sue you from an accident (even a "planned accident").
_____ Consider ransom insurance, too!
_____ 4. PERSONAL SECURITY:
_____ Get training in self-defense / firearms.
_____ Don't flaunt your newly obtained wealth. Be very low-key.
_____ Be careful of your conversation in public areas where others can overhear you.
_____ Don’t trust anyone.
_____ Pick your friends wisely. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
_____ Close all of your social networking accounts. If anyone asks you why you closed your Facebook, just tell them for security reasons. (my husband and I have already done this).
_____ Completely erase all personal information on the internet.
_____ Do not have your home in your personal name (you can use a trust, for example). Remember, property tax records and other records associated with your home are easily available to the public.
____ 5. IDENTITY THEFT:
____ There are many companies available to assist you with protecting yourself from identity theft, such aswww.lifelock.com How to work a bank deal post RV
_____ First of all, relax. You do not have to cash out the very first day. You will have plenty of time. Make sure you are getting the best deal you can.
_____ Money talks and has considerable power. You need to walk into a bank and tell them what you expect if you choose to exchange your dinar there.
_____ You expect no fees, the highest rate possible (make sure you tell them the rates you can get elsewhere)
_____ Immediate access to your money
_____ An appointment with a private banker and
_____ An appointment with a wealth mgmt. consultant.
_____ A private or personal banker is your personal banker and they are there for you.
_____ This is your go to person for normal banking issues and transactions. They should be the only one to handle your account and you should keep their number on speed dial.
_____ Your private banker is always there for you and defers to your decisions.
_____ Make sure and feel comfortable with whom your private banker and wealth mgmt. advisor is and feel
_____ Free to ask for a new one if needed.
_____ Always ask for referrals, successful bankers do not mind providing this information.
_____ Then check on those referrals and ask questions such as…is the banker available when needed,
_____ Do they return calls in a timely manner,
_____ What is your track record with them.
_____ Do they follow your agenda or push their own?
_____ Since you are going to become very close to these people….
_____ You need to assure you have like personalities and are comfortable dealing with them.
_____ The bank we are dealing with makes additional resources available depending on your net worth.
_____ Worth (for lack of a better word) start at $250,000 in invest-able assets and go up from there.
_____ Obviously the more you are worth, the greater your accesses and privileges.
_____ Privileges include such things as …..
_____ Investment management,
_____ Concentrated stock management
_____ Intergenerational wealth transfer strategies.
_____ Make sure they are professional and not just someone you hear about on the internet. You've waited to long for this money to lose it via some internet scheme. Other things you need to ask for and expect includes…
_____ NO fees ever….
_____ NO cashier check fees,
_____ NO bank fees,
_____ NO credit card fees or
_____ Annual membership fees,
_____ Free use of a safety deposit box.
_____ You need to ask for a privileged ATM card. I am not sure what other banks call this so make sure and ask. It’s a debit card with higher daily limits or even unlimited depending on your situation and NO FEES, even when out of network.
_____ Be sure to determine both your ATM cash withdrawal daily limit (or no limit) and your debit card spending limit (or no limit). They’re different.
_____ Banks are well aware of how to verify and deposit foreign currency as they do this every day. It is critical that your branch have a De LaRue machine. Your dinar will be sight verified in front of you and deposited into your account.
__________________________
Something to Think About & Remember......
There are two kinds of people in the world. There are "Takers" and there are "Givers."
Takers will keep on taking until givers have nothing left to give if you let them. Beware!

Posted by John MacHaffie at 5:02 PM